PipeChat Digest #4847 - Friday, October 22, 2004
 
Re: Olympic Tune
  by "Bill Hauser" <bill.hauser@cox.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4846 - 10/21/04
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
re: economy of movement
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: economy of movement
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Kimball rededication kindles memories
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
RE: Short Postludes
  by "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com>
FW: Recitals
  by "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com>
RE: Postludes
  by "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com>
Re: Dennis James / Kimball, Von Beckerath duo concert
  by <MUSCUR@aol.com>
[cross-posted] source for organ sheet music in SE US?
  by "Greg Homza" <homza@indiana.edu>
the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN?
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN?
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN?
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN?
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Michael 1 and 2
  by <SWF12262@aol.com>
RE: Olympic Tune
  by "Roger Whitehead" <roger.whitehead@AES.com>
Re: Michael 1 and 2
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Re: "Independent Church of Christ"
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Olympic Tune From: "Bill Hauser" <bill.hauser@cox.net> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:31:20 -0500     Leo Arnaud - "Olympic Theme" from Bugler's Dream      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4846 - 10/21/04 From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:47:09 +0300   Stephen Roberts wrote: " I don't think that I ever mentioned E. Power Biggs at all, in fact. "   Yes, sorry Stephen - that's the second time I have muddled names up this week. I checked back and it was Walter Kraft and Helmut Walcha. A friend = of mine recently suggested I got new glasses - he was obviously right!   John Foss      
(back) Subject: re: economy of movement From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:01:21 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Well isn't it fascinating?   --- Thomas Mohr <thomasmohr@aon.at> wrote:- > I am just a hobby organist........   > The main reason why European organists prefer to > play toe - toe and not toe > heel is simply that the toe is capable of a better > control of the attack and > articulation than the heel.   -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-     After all the thousands of words posted, THIS is the most important point of all!   Toes are sensitive, probing, searching things, with built in springs and natural elasticity. Heels merely swivel around a bit.   Each year, I go to Holland as you all know, and most years I hear the best Bach and Buxtehude; meticulously prepared and executed. This year it was worth travelling just to hear the Gigue Fugue at Groningen, and worth a thousand "Jog Fugues" played with sloppy toes and heels at breakneck speed.   The best continental European organists play those wonderful old organs with the sensitivity which is only truly possible with a fine mechanical action; like those brave souls who made Spitfires dance into action in the air during WWII.   The BBC recently ran a fascinating programme, in which young pilots of to-day were rewarded for effort by being allowed to train in and then fly a Spitfire solo.   Comments such as, "It feels so heavy!" or "It's hard work," soon gave way to smiles, then grins, then almost delirious joy.   Once they got used to the response and the heaviness, they would land and with broad grins, proclaim, "Wow! What a plane! It is so responsive, like it is part of yourself!"   The same is true of delicately balanced racing cars, which are driven with the fingers and toes.   The Dutch (and presumably Swedes, some Germans, Danes, Czechs, Poles, some Italians, Belgians who don't eat too much chocolate and Norwegains who ski on their toes) know how to "fly" an organ properly.   But give a Dutchman a copy of Vierne's 6th.......... and he will LOOK at it for hours and then discuss the harmonies!!!!!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK           __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: economy of movement From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:14:48 EDT   Colin,   What a wonderful analogy. And as my great-uncle (who flew planes out of England in WWII and escaped TWICE from German POW camps) used to say: = thank God for the RAF. I'll add--thank God for a well-played "Gigue" Fugue, and played not-too-fast.   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston.    
(back) Subject: Re: Kimball rededication kindles memories From: <KurtvonS@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:33:48 EDT   In a message dated 10/20/04 4:15:04 PM US Eastern Standard Time, RMaryman@aol.com writes: The Tuba Magna (if that is what it is called - solo Tuba?) on the Kimball = by itself is able to obliterate the full plenum of the VonTrackerbreath in = the rear gallery. I was also at the concert with Wm Haller and Dennis James, = and even with the Kimball only about 50 percent functional is was QUITE = dominant in the room when comparing the Kimball and the Von Beckerath...gimme the = Kimball any day of the week. Tuba Mirabilis, I seem to recall. Spending a wonderful evening with both organs many years ago, I could only wish for a Kimball to Beckerath Pedal = coupler!  
(back) Subject: RE: Short Postludes From: "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:09:03 -0500   June Nixon's ORGAN MINIATURES (98610) is available from Mel Bay Publications in the USA. Call 1-800 8Melbay for service. Three are still in stock. Thank you!!   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Emily Adams Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:49 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Short Postludes   I don't think anybody has mentioned June Nixon's Organ Miniatures, which I use almost every week for something--I chop some up to use as hymn intros or codas, combine them with somebody else's alternate harmonizations to create a prelude, or use one by itself as a postlude. More info available at http://www.di-arezzo.com/uk/detail_notice?prov=3Dvar&no_notice=3DRXMAY042= 3&a ff=3Dscores although I know nothing about that specific site and ordered my copy through OHS.   There's no custom of listening to the postlude on the part of my=20 congregation, and I can make them extremely brief, although I want to play=20 something decent (a) just in case anybody is paying attention and (b) for my=20 own enjoyment. The Nixon pieces fit the bill nicely.     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: FW: Recitals From: "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:18:08 -0500   Martin Setchell, of New Zealand, will be in Seattle at St Stephens Episcopal Church on Friday 8 April 7.30pm then free until Winnipeg on 17 April. He is certainly available for other recitals. His website is www.organist.co.nz Martin Setchell Concert Organist=20 Christchurch Town Hall, New Zealand Associate Professor of Music University of Canterbury homepage: www.organist.co.nz =20   =20   =20 =20 =20          
(back) Subject: RE: Postludes From: "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:25:35 -0500   AFTER THE LAST VERSE of Malcolm Archer (96028) is available from Mel Bay Publications. Call 1-800-8MelBay. We have six copies is stock. Thank you!!   =20   ________________________________   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of SWF12262@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:10 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Postludes   =20   Regarding the search for short postludes, try After the Last Verse by Malcolm Archer. This collection of brief improvisations on some 200 hymn tunes is a great starting point for further improvisation. I think most are only about 16 measures in length, but most can be repeated in whole or in part to very good effect. A very useful book!   =20   Steve Folkers   St. Lambert Church   Skokie, IL    
(back) Subject: Re: Dennis James / Kimball, Von Beckerath duo concert From: <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:42:58 EDT   RMaryman@aol.com wrote   Good friend organist Marc Peters remembered, and Clark Wilson verified, an =   earlier concert (mid '70s) which featured William Haller at the von = Beckerath   (?) and Dennis James at the Kimball (?) playing "Ride of the Valkyries!" = I'd love to hear that once again with both the Kimball and von B in top shape = and the room at its acoustical best. Remember, Rudolph von Beckerath would not install his organ in that room until the church made some major acoustical =   alterations. I'm not sure what shape the Kimball was in for the = Haller/James duet. The Tuba Magna (if that is what it is called - solo Tuba?) on the Kimball = by   itself is able to obliterate the full plenum of the VonTrackerbreath in = the rear gallery. I was also at the concert with Wm Haller and Dennis James, = and   even with the Kimball only about 50 percent functional is was QUITE = dominant in the room when comparing the Kimball and the Von Beckerath...gimme the = Kimball   any day of the week.     Yes, the concert still exists. I had it professionally recorded in the then-emerging quadraphonic format and the tape is truly an audio = spectacular with the spatial audio apparitions of flying Valkyries between the two organs, = front and back and throughout the sanctuary! We also performed that day Beethoven's Turkish March from the Ruins of Athens and a number of other = carefully chosen selections to display the tonal characteristics of each instrument = for a predominantly theatre organ-oriented sellout audience. It was quite an experience to figure out how to coordinate the duo synchronization what = with the extreme acoustic delays at each console vis a vis the heard sound of the = opposite instrument. We experimented by using a video setup plus a conductor and = even a click track and were able to come to terms quite nicely.   Dennis James Musica Curiosa  
(back) Subject: [cross-posted] source for organ sheet music in SE US? From: "Greg Homza" <homza@indiana.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:01:23 -0500 (EST)   Greetings, listers.   I've recently relocated to the Charleston, SC area, and am wondering if anyone can recommend any music stores in the southeastern US that carry a significant inventory of newer organ (and choral) compositions that can be browsed. I don't mind mail-ordering more well-known pieces, but...I hesitate to buy something called "Four Preludes on Advent Hymns" if I don't know anything about the collection, so...it helps to be able to browse.   Though I've not been there, I know of Brodt's in Charlotte (about 3 hrs from here), but...is there anything closer?   Many thanks, -greg homza      
(back) Subject: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN? From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:16:02 -0700   I'm still waiting for organ music publishers to catch up with choral music publishers.   The latter send out free CDs of their new offerings; in many cases you can examine the score, listen to it, and (with a credit card, for a licensing fee, which includes the right to copy) print it out, all online.   Yes, I know about the organ music scores on CDs, but I understand that the quality and choice of editions is uneven.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN? From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:57:27 EDT     In a message dated 10/21/04 1:12:45 PM, quilisma@cox.net writes:     > I'm still waiting for organ music publishers to catch up with choral > music publishers. > > The latter send out free CDs of their new offerings; in many cases you > can examine the score, listen to it, and (with a credit card, for a > licensing fee, which includes the right to copy) print it out, all = online. > > Yes, I know about the organ music scores on CDs, but I understand that > the quality and choice of editions is uneven. > > Cheers, >   I don't like those things--you will spend as much money on paper and toner =   cartridges as you would on the book...and its nicer to have a real = edition-so that fingerings etc.. are not lost. That's just me though. gfc       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN? From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:52:09 -0700   OTOH, it's nice to have the single sheets ... have you ever seen the music rack of an anglo-catholic organist in full cry? (chuckle)   I had a special one built to extend the full width of the console, and it STILL wasn't big enough for everything (grin). It made the console look like a wide-bodied Chevy duelly (chuckle), but it at least HELPED.   Cheers,   Bud   Gfc234@aol.com wrote:   > > In a message dated 10/21/04 1:12:45 PM, quilisma@cox.net writes: > > >> I'm still waiting for organ music publishers to catch up with choral >> music publishers. >> >> The latter send out free CDs of their new offerings; in many cases you >> can examine the score, listen to it, and (with a credit card, for a >> licensing fee, which includes the right to copy) print it out, all = online. >> >> Yes, I know about the organ music scores on CDs, but I understand that >> the quality and choice of editions is uneven. >> >> Cheers, > > > > I don't like those things--you will spend as much money on paper and > toner cartridges as you would on the book...and its nicer to have a real =   > edition-so that fingerings etc.. are not lost. > That's just me though. > gfc > > > > Gregory Ceurvorst > 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS > Evanston, IL 60201 > 847.332.2788 home/fax > 708.243.2549 mobile > gfc234@aol.com > gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net      
(back) Subject: Re: the computer revolution is coming, but WHEN? From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:36:08 -0500   Liquescent wrote:   > I'm still waiting for organ music publishers to catch up with choral > music publishers.   Among the two reasons I see for the discrepancy are volume: there are probably 100 choral compositions for every organ one, so that it may be that the same percentage of works are being distributed on line in both cases. I would venture that anther factor is in sales varies more in choral compositions than in organ ones, that is given 100 randomly selected choral titles, there will be a number which need a couple of reprintings, and another number where they don't open more than a box from the original press run, whereas in a like number of organ titles, the sales level does not vary as much from one title to another. I suspect size of the market comes to play, too. I think the typical buyer of most choral music is less likely to be able to look at a choral score and hear it, than the typical organist, who, if browsing in a store, is more likely to be able to find a piano available to play a bit of it.   > [choral publisher] send out free CDs of their new offerings; in many > cases you can examine the score, listen to it, and (with a credit > card, for a licensing fee, which includes the right to copy) print it > out, all online.   I think the typical buyer of most choral music is less likely to be able to look at a choral score and hear it, than the typical organist, who, if browsing in a store, is more likely to be able to find a piano available to play a bit of it. As to printing it out, I suspect that there is a certain amount of resistance among organists to letter size (8-1/2 x 11) scores. most prefering a larger score in portrait format, or landscape. While a choral score can be conveniently printed out on the paper one can easily find, paper that will withstand the rigors of organ music use (remember that a 9 x 12 book needs to be printed on 13 x 19 paper (to allow for trimming), and this size is not readily available. And if you want to do an organ score on larger than 8 1/2 x 11, there are larger binders which can be had, but the last time I checked out the price of a 12 x 15 binder, it was prohibitively expensive.   ns  
(back) Subject: Re: Michael 1 and 2 From: <SWF12262@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:53:51 EDT   Regarding the use of multiple names for the same hymn tune, I can think of = one off the top of my head that has three: Schoenster Herr Jesu, = Crusaders' Hymn, and [I think] St. Elizabeth. The text usually associated with this = tune is translated either as Beautiful Savior or Fairest Lord Jesus. I = believe hymn tune names depend to a great extent on the whims of the various = hymnal editors.  
(back) Subject: RE: Olympic Tune From: "Roger Whitehead" <roger.whitehead@AES.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:36:18 -0500   The=20so-called=20Olympic=20Theme=20is=20"Bugler's=20Dream"=20from=20the=20= "Charge=20Suite"=20by=20Leo=20Arnaud,=20a=20commission=20for=20Felix=20Sla= tkin's=201958=20album=20"Charge!". It=20was=20first=20used=20in=20connection=20with=20the=20Olympics=20by=20A= BC=20in=201968.   see=20http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/story1b021802.html     -----Original=20Message----- Subject:=20Olympic=20Tune From:=20"Shawn=20M.=20Gingrich"=20<shawn.gingrich@firstumchershey.org> Date:=20Wed,=2020=20Oct=202004=2015:18:44=20-0400   Does=20anyone=20know=20the=20exact=20title=20/=20composer=20of=20the=20tun= e=20used=20for=20the Olympics?=20The=20tune=20is:=20Mi_=20Sol_=20Sol=20Do=20Re=20Mi=20Do   -------|\-----=20=20=20=20Shawn=20M.=20Gingrich,=20Director=20of=20Music=20= Ministry -------|/-----=20=20=20=20First=20United=20Methodist=20Church ------/|------=20=20=20=20Hershey,=20PA=2017033 -----|-(-)----=20=20=20=20717-533-9668=20ext.=20108 ------\|/-----=20=20=20=20shawn.gingrich@firstumchershey.org =20=20=20=20=20=20o/=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20http://fumc-hershey.org   ________________________________________________________________________ This=20communication=20is=20for=20use=20by=20the=20intended=20recipient=20= and=20contains=20information=20that=20may=20be=20privileged,=20confidentia= l=20or=20copyrighted=20under=20law.=20=20If=20you=20are=20not=20the=20inte= nded=20recipient,=20you=20are=20hereby=20formally=20notified=20that=20any=20= use,=20copying=20or=20distribution=20of=20this=20e-Mail,=20in=20whole=20or= =20in=20part,=20is=20strictly=20prohibited.=20Please=20notify=20the=20send= er=20by=20return=20e-Mail=20and=20delete=20this=20e-Mail=20from=20your=20s= ystem.=20=20Unless=20explicitly=20and=20conspicuously=20stated=20in=20the=20= subject=20matter=20of=20the=20above=20e-Mail,=20this=20e-Mail=20does=20not= =20constitute=20a=20contract=20offer,=20a=20contract=20amendment,=20or=20a= n=20acceptance=20of=20a=20contract=20offer.=20=20This=20e-Mail=20does=20no= t=20constitute=20consent=20to=20the=20use=20of=20sender's=20contact=20info= rmation=20for=20direct=20marketing=20purposes=20or=20for=20transfers=20of=20= data=20to=20third=20parties.   This=20email=20has=20been=20scanned=20for=20all=20viruses=20by=20the=20Mes= sageLabs=20service.  
(back) Subject: Re: Michael 1 and 2 From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:04:47 -0500   Who are you? There's no name signed in you email nor is there one included with your email address.   Good example of a tune with multiple names.   Blessings, Beau     -----Original Message----- From: SWF12262@aol.com      
(back) Subject: Re: "Independent Church of Christ" From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:39:05 EDT   In a message dated 10/18/04 8:52:07 PM Central Daylight Time, Voicer40@aol.com writes:   > The pastor told him that he understood, and that on Monday morning, the > organ would be out in the parking lot. Guess what happened! >   I have inside information that the dealer picked up the organ on Saturday. = Lee