PipeChat Digest #4848 - Saturday, October 23, 2004
 
pipeorg.l and other such listservs or chat rooms
  by "v hatch" <vhatch@hotmail.com>
Kimball rekindles memories
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: pipeorg.l and other such listservs or chat rooms
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
job listings in europe
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: job listings in europe
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: job listings in europe
  by "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: job listings in europe
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: job listings in europe
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@comcast.net>
Re: job listings in europe
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Thomas Murray atHoly Cross Cathedral ,Boston
  by "Mack" <mack02445@comcast.net>
American Organists...
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: job listings in europe
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Michael 1 & 2 & who are you?
  by <SWF12262@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: pipeorg.l and other such listservs or chat rooms From: "v hatch" <vhatch@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:06:26 -0500   Someone commented that a particularly heatedd exchange sounded like Pipeorg.Ll or something. How DOES one subscribe to Pipeorg.L ? But even more important to me is this: are there other listservs in music that = might be flourishing and active the way this one (Pipechat) is? I am interested =   in knowing about forums for communication with ones colleagues across the nation (or world) in areas that have to do with professional concerns of college teachers, questions related to reiring and moving to attractive = but economical places around the country (again, or around the world), activities (paind or otherwise) of retired people, ages at which people DO =   retire (I'm especially intereste in finding out somehow how many persons = we have playing the organ regularly in their eighties, but also (and perhaps especially this) still teaching at colleges in their eighties. I just picked out that number arbitrarily. There seems to e this ASSUMPTION = that everybody RETIRES at some point in the age sixty range but I'm thinking = this is NOT the case. Iv'e tried AARP and AAUP and NEA and AFT but I think I = have just not punched the right buttons.   _________________________________________________________________ Don=92t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/    
(back) Subject: Kimball rekindles memories From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:38:26 EDT   Some of us in the Cols area jokingly state that there ought to be a "Beckerath CXXIII" mixture coupler among the Kimball's drawknobs.   Stan Krider   In a message dated 10/22/2004 5:01:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KurtvonS@aol.com writes: Spending a wonderful evening with both organs many years ago, I could only wish for a Kimball to Beckerath Pedal coupler!  
(back) Subject: Re: pipeorg.l and other such listservs or chat rooms From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:59:41 -0600   Hello, ??? .. . . and who might you be? For what does v hatch stand? F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs Garland, Texas, U.S.A. .. . . one of them old folks <grins> .. From: "v hatch" <vhatch@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Cc: <vhatch@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: pipeorg.l and other such listservs or chat rooms     * * * > I am interested in knowing about forums for communication > with ones colleagues across the nation (or world) in areas > that have to do with professional concerns of college teachers, .. . . etc. ..    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:16:37 -0500   The following was posted to the EORG-L and I am forwarding it here since it might be of interest and maybe someone on this list might be able to attend.   David   >On October 26 at 2 PM the Organ Historical Society will present two >Historic Citations to the Midmer-Losh and Kimball pipe organs in >Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall during a press conference. > >The public is invited to attend this ceremony. The Midmer-Losh >console kiosk will be opened for viewing at this time. There will >not be tours of the pipe chambers, nor will the organ be operational. > >Jack Clotworthy >Secretary/Treasurer >ACCHOS, Inc >www.acchos.org >info@acchos.org > > >EORG-L: A discussion List for electronic organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.gulfcst.com/eorg-l List: mailto:eorg-l@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:EORG-LAdmin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: job listings in europe From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:54:58 EDT   Hello, Does anyone know of a website similar to AGOHQ.ORG that lists European job =   openings? Cheers, gfc       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:01:36 EDT   There aren't any jobs in Europe . . . that's why they're all coming over here and taking U.S. jobs from us!!!!  
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:19:58 +0200   http://www.kirkemusikk.no/stillinger.htm lists available jobs in Norway.   We still have a large state church here which offers full-time jobs even in small villages. This has attracted lots of foreign organists for the past few years as the situation in (the-rest-of) Europe has turned worse.   - Jarle http://jarle.moo.no   Gfc234@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know of a website similar to AGOHQ.ORG that lists European = job > openings? > Cheers, > gfc > > > > Gregory Ceurvorst > 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS > Evanston, IL 60201 > 847.332.2788 home/fax > 708.243.2549 mobile > gfc234@aol.com > gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net >  
(back) Subject: RE: job listings in europe From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:18:23 -0500   I'm hard-pressed to think of one organist who came to the US because they couldn't find a job in Europe. I can think of several who came because their new employers wanted someone with their experience and credentials - and were willing and able to pay top dollar to bring them over. There's really very little demand for US organists in Europe.   michael   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of ProOrgo53@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 5:02 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: job listings in europe     There aren't any jobs in Europe . . . that's why they're all coming over here and taking U.S. jobs from us!!!!  
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:32:26 -0700   Isn't this mostly the UK organists? The best choral and organ program I ever heard at Grace Cathedral, San Francisco was John Scott and the St. Paul's, London choir back in the 1990's. There is no doubt in my mind as to why churches who want great English style music the likes of T. Tertius Noble are searching elsewhere. Most US Academia has not produced anything but organ performance players who can't improvise, transpose, accompany singers or play a moving church service that would make you weep. BR   ProOrgo53@aol.com wrote:   > There aren't any jobs in Europe . . . that's why they're all coming > over here and taking U.S. jobs from us!!!!      
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:18:11 EDT   In a message dated 10/22/2004 5:33:12 PM Central Daylight Time, blainericketts@comcast.net writes: There is no doubt in my mind as to why churches who want great English style music the likes of T. Tertius Noble are searching elsewhere. Most US Academia has not produced anything but organ performance players who can't improvise, transpose, accompany singers or play a moving church service that would make you weep. Oh, they can make you weep alright, but not in the way you mean!! Ha!   Dale Rider Independence, MO USA  
(back) Subject: Thomas Murray atHoly Cross Cathedral ,Boston From: "Mack" <mack02445@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:25:52 +0000   For those of us lucky enough to be in the Boston area, I discovered in the Boston Globe Calendar section that Tom will be playing at Holy Cross Cathedral, to benefit the Organ Restoration Fund. The concert is Sunday, October 24th at 2:00 PM.   Suggested admission is $15.00, $10.00 seniors and students. 1400 Washington Street, Boston. 1875 E&GG Hook & Hastings Organ. It also has its new replica console. Hope to see some of you there.   Cheers, Mack  
(back) Subject: American Organists... From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:58:43 -0400     > Most US Academia has not > produced anything but organ performance players who can't improvise, > transpose, accompany singers or play a moving church service that > would > make you weep. > Much of the blame is not on academia, but American Church Builders who fail to build structures in which sound can float and grow, tying the organist to the keys...and every slip of the finger stands out...   Drunkeness often results when a European organ voicer visits his first American Church. I remember being told at an AGO meeting that Ohio Wesleyan was just one example of this situation. Great Organ. In a LIVING ROOM WITH RECLINER.   More than one stellar European Organist has left the US with their tails between their legs....when they find what their playing sounds like in a sterile room.   I am sure others can find better words, but many US churches make one feel when playign as they are playing volleyball...while waist deep in water.   noel jones    
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:59:42 -0600   Hello, Blaine: > Most US Academia has not produced anything but organ > performance players who can't improvise, transpose, > accompany singers or play a moving church service that > would make you weep. You like that kind of musicianship, too??? Wow! That's wonderful. Can you still hear in now and then? Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: Re: Michael 1 & 2 & who are you? From: <SWF12262@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:45:34 EDT   Hi Beau, Sorry I forgot to sign the post about Schoenster Herr Jesu/Crusaders' Hymn?St. Elizabeth. Steve Folkers Steven Weyand Folkers St. Lambert Church Skokie, IL