PipeChat Digest #4849 - Sunday, October 24, 2004
 
Organs and Organists Online - David M Patrick plays Vierne's impromptu
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs
  by "rgunther@cantv.net" <rgunther@cantv.net>
Cesar Franck, ETC
  by "rgunther@cantv.net" <rgunther@cantv.net>
Re: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@comcast.net>
Re: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: job listings in europe
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: job listings in europe
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Hector Olivera at Old South Church in Boston X-Posted
  by "Charlie Jack" <Charlie@Jack.NET>
OFF-TOPIC: changes to the "Anglican Orphans of the Storm" list parameters
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Lynn Dobson Organ in the December 2004 Issue of Wokbench
  by "John C. Ziegler" <johnz@just-access.com>
Re: small scale stopped pipe
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
 

(back) Subject: Organs and Organists Online - David M Patrick plays Vierne's impromptu From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:56:21 +0300   Dear List, Inspired by David M Patrick's playing of the Gigout Toccata and a recommendation from Gregory Ceurvorst to listen to his BBC Award Winning record of the complete works of Maurice Durufle on the organ of Coventry Cathedral, I ordered both the Durufle and Widor recordings online this = week from http://www.crotchet.co.uk/ and am waiting eagerly for them to arrive. The site from which I ordered the recordings also had the complete organ works of Cesar Franck recorded by Marie Claire Alain in a 2 CD boxed set = for =A38, about $15. A bargain I could not resist! This is by way of introduction to this week's update to http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ for which David Patrick has sent us a performance of the enchanting Impromptu from Vierne's Pieces de Fantaisie, recorded on the III/46 Van = den Heuvel Organ in the Katarina Church Stockholm, Sweden. We have also added Tim Grenz's 15 year old son Jared playing D'Aquin's "Le Coucou" on the II/27 Cantor Digital Organ in the Grenz Residence, Wisconsin, USA and an improvisation by Jon Fjellestad on the II/17 French Romantic Organ in the Hoeggen Church, Norway, where he is organist. The Downloads page has been re-designed to make navigation easier. New additions are added in a separate section, where they remain for two = weeks, and the site is now organised with Composer and Organist indexes. We have added some photographs, and Tim Grenz is now working on the "organs" = section adding photographs and specifications. We have introduced an "improvisation" section to the Index of performances = - this has improvisations by Simon Gutteridge, Marc Giacone and Jon Kristian Fjellestad from Norway, whose 4 improvisations include one recorded on the organ of Hamar Cathedral in Norway and the 1922 Sauer Organ in Our Lady Church of Trondheim, Norway. Marc Giacone is playing a II/10 = Cavaille-Coll instrument in the Chapelle des Carmes, Monaco and Simon Gutteridge is playing the III/28 1861 Bevington organ in St Paul's, Covent Garden. We now have recordings from 25 musicians, including Cathedral organists, international recitalists, as well as college and other music students - = the youngest of whom is 12 years old. Music by 29 composers are can be heard = on the list at present. Pipe Organs from large cathedrals through to small parish churches and house installations as well as digital instruments are all represented. I would like to thank all those who have conributed to = the site, and hope that we will continue to be able to maintain the high standards that have been set on a truly International scale. Dr June Nixon, organist of St Paul's Cathedral, Melbourne, whose organ compostions have been the subject of some posts this week, is one of the catheral organists who can be heard playing on Organs and Organists = online. She has recently released a record of organ works of "meditation and exaltation", consisting of 23 tracks of mainly contemporay composers, including Malcolm Archer, Paul Bryan, Edvard Greig, Colin Hand, Sigfrid Karg-Elert, John Marsh, Colin Mawby, June Nixon, Noel Rawsthorne, Alan Ridout, Martin Setchell, Christopher Tambling. This can be ordered from the Organ Historical Society in the US and from Kevin Mayhew in the UK. Full details of Dr Nixon's compositions and recordings can also be found on her own site, http://www.junenixon.com/   John Foss      
(back) Subject: Re: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs From: "rgunther@cantv.net" <rgunther@cantv.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:50:41 -0400   BRAVO! These two organs are unique pieces of a unique past IMHO and = should be preserved and hopefuly put back into their originally intended operation. I know too well how difficult this can be, beginning with the fund raising and ending with the question if the old (and never truly operational) solenoid/relais driver-piston settings systems should be substituted with SSL or digital drivers or not (in this particular case I would vote for the SSL or digital).   Andres (very busy at this moment, for that my silence) First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet, and the cat got something to wonder about.   ----------- Mensaje Original --------------   De: Administrator [admin@pipechat.org] Para: pipechat@pipechat.org [pipechat@pipechat.org] Cc: Asunto: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs Fecha: 22/10/2004 13:16:53 Mensaje:   The following was posted to the EORG-L and I am forwarding it here since it might be of interest and maybe someone on this list might be able to attend.   David   >On October 26 at 2 PM the Organ Historical Society will present two >Historic Citations to the Midmer-Losh and Kimball pipe organs in >Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall during a press conference. > >The public is invited to attend this ceremony. The Midmer-Losh >console kiosk will be opened for viewing at this time. There will >not be tours of the pipe chambers, nor will the organ be operational. > >Jack Clotworthy >Secretary/Treasurer >ACCHOS, Inc >www.acchos.org >info@acchos.org > > >EORG-L: A discussion List for electronic organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.gulfcst.com/eorg-l List: mailto:eorg-l@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:EORG-LAdmin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: Cesar Franck, ETC From: "rgunther@cantv.net" <rgunther@cantv.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:56:05 -0400   Could not copy the message to the digest, there was no plain text part
(back) Subject: Re: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:08:55 -0700   Anyone adding a digital combination action to an organ that does not have solid state relays is asking for trouble. Unless you put a diode across every coil in the non solid state portion, you'll have combinations firing strange settings all over the place from the back EMF of the relay and chest magnets. The solid state relays and combination actions have diodes built in for protection from every magnet they drive.   The West Point Military Academy used a Syndyne combination action for their large console. It would be nice to hear if they have a solid state relay of some kind. There are several brands of quality relays on the market and the prices do vary considerably. BR   rgunther@cantv.net wrote:   > BRAVO! These two organs are unique pieces of a unique past IMHO and = should >be preserved and hopefuly put back into their originally intended >operation. I know too well how difficult this can be, beginning with the >fund raising and ending with the question if the old (and never truly >operational) solenoid/relais driver-piston settings systems should be >substituted with SSL or digital drivers or not (in this particular case I >would vote for the SSL or digital). > >Andres >(very busy at this moment, for that my silence) >First was the cat, then was the Orgler. >The Orgler got a pet, and the cat got something to wonder about. > >----------- Mensaje Original -------------- > >De: Administrator [admin@pipechat.org] >Para: pipechat@pipechat.org [pipechat@pipechat.org] >Cc: >Asunto: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs >Fecha: 22/10/2004 13:16:53 >Mensaje: > >The following was posted to the EORG-L and I am forwarding it here >since it might be of interest and maybe someone on this list might be >able to attend. > >David > > > >>On October 26 at 2 PM the Organ Historical Society will present two >>Historic Citations to the Midmer-Losh and Kimball pipe organs in >>Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall during a press conference. >> >>The public is invited to attend this ceremony. The Midmer-Losh >>console kiosk will be opened for viewing at this time. There will >>not be tours of the pipe chambers, nor will the organ be operational. >> >>Jack Clotworthy >>Secretary/Treasurer >>ACCHOS, Inc >>www.acchos.org >>info@acchos.org >> >> >>EORG-L: A discussion List for electronic organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.gulfcst.com/eorg-l List: = mailto:eorg-l@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:EORG-LAdmin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> > > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:23:08 -0400   Hi Andr=E9s, Glad to hear you are busy, for that can only be a good thing=20 considering your drastic change of venue (so to speak). I, for one,=20 would be interested to hear about what you are up to and how things are=20 working out for you. I hope all your dreams are coming true. The Atlantic City Organ story has fascinated me since the beginning=20 of my plunge into the world of pipe organs just about 5 years ago. The=20 novice cannot help but be interested in the extreme examples of the=20 subject, and there is no more extreme organs than those at Boardwalk Hall= =2E The part of me that wants so much to hear the Midmer Losh speak=20 again in completeness agrees with you that the original combination=20 system is far too cumbersome and unreliable to warrant expending=20 precious funds in its restoration. A modern digital system seems the way =   to go in all practicality. My wish, however, is that all the=20 original parts of this historic instrument be somehow preserved as=20 archival material, and be placed in some sort of museum setting for all=20 future generations to see and study. Like the bones of dinosaurs, these=20 materials will never be replicated, and are essential to the study of=20 the original instrument. I'm not sure what ACCHOS has in mind about this =   and have seen no mention as to their intent. Obviously the priority is=20 to regain the function of the instrument, but I so hope the history will =   not get trampled as a result. I've not spent nearly as much time studying about the Kimball Organ=20 to know just what is intended for it. My understanding is that after=20 reconnecting the cut cables, it is pretty much functional as is. If=20 restoration can be accomplished with the original systems and be=20 reliable, then I am all for staying faithful to the original=20 construction as possible. In any event, I am elated that efforts continue to move us closer to =   the day we may hear these wonderful old relics come to life again. I've=20 often thought that might not actually happen in my lifetime, but now I=20 have renewed hope. Thanks to ACCHOS and the many people who are laboring =   on behalf of that dream. I want to particularly acknowledge Jack=20 Clotsworthy, a fellow listmember whom I am happy to call personal=20 acquaintance and friend. It's through the selfless efforts of folks like =   him that we may all have the chance to hear these magnificent pieces of=20 history reclaimed. Cheers Mike Gettelman   rgunther@cantv.net wrote:   > BRAVO! These two organs are unique pieces of a unique past IMHO and sho= uld >be preserved and hopefuly put back into their originally intended >operation. I know too well how difficult this can be, beginning with the=   >fund raising and ending with the question if the old (and never truly >operational) solenoid/relais driver-piston settings systems should be >substituted with SSL or digital drivers or not (in this particular case = I >would vote for the SSL or digital). > >Andres >(very busy at this moment, for that my silence) >First was the cat, then was the Orgler. >The Orgler got a pet, and the cat got something to wonder about. > >----------- Mensaje Original -------------- > >De: Administrator [admin@pipechat.org] >Para: pipechat@pipechat.org [pipechat@pipechat.org] >Cc:=20 >Asunto: Fwd: Atlantic City Convention Hall organs >Fecha: 22/10/2004 13:16:53 >Mensaje: > >The following was posted to the EORG-L and I am forwarding it here=20 >since it might be of interest and maybe someone on this list might be=20 >able to attend. > >David > > =20 > >>On October 26 at 2 PM the Organ Historical Society will present two=20 >>Historic Citations to the Midmer-Losh and Kimball pipe organs in=20 >>Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall during a press conference. >> >>The public is invited to attend this ceremony. The Midmer-Losh=20 >>console kiosk will be opened for viewing at this time. There will=20 >>not be tours of the pipe chambers, nor will the organ be operational. >> >>Jack Clotworthy >>Secretary/Treasurer >>ACCHOS, Inc >>www.acchos.org >>info@acchos.org >> >> >>EORG-L: A discussion List for electronic organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.gulfcst.com/eorg-l List: mailto:eorg-l@pipechat.o= rg >>Administration: mailto:EORG-LAdmin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> =20 >> > > > =20 >  
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:31:28 EDT   In a message dated 10/22/2004 8:00:38 PM Central Daylight Time, effarbee@verizon.net writes: play a church service that > would make you weep. Come on, now! I've heard lots and lots of service players who made me = weep! And that's not all good!   On the other hand, I've heard an equal amount of organists who don't have = big names, play services which moved and thrilled me!   YOurs,   Darryl  
(back) Subject: Re: job listings in europe From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:41:56 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I may enjoy the odd moment of outrageous comment, but I think that to dismiss American organists in this way is both untrue and unfair.   I suspect that Gerre Hancock would have got there without help from King's College, Cambridge, such is his talent. Obviously, a good apprenticeship helps, and this respect, the English tradition is a vital breeding ground for serious, high-flying church musicians.   That said, I have heard some awful accompaniment in English cathedrals, and one very well known UK organist could barely accompany a hymn until I sat him down and showed him how to do it!!!!!   Sitting here in the UK, even I know of American organists who can improvise....Dorothy P (don't ask me to spell her full name please!), Grace Jones, Gerre Hancock, Carlo Curley and doubtless many others.   On the subject of improvisation, I would regard Gerre Hancock as on of the finest ever, and I am delighted to report that we have, in the UK, the most brilliant improviser in the form of David Briggs. For those who like their improvisations a little wilder, then Wayne Marshall can certainly be counted on to do something unusual.   I would suggest that there is no great magic in the English Cathedral system; merely a willingness to hear fine-art and to encourage it. To this end, the ethos is right, the funding is there and, of course, there is that thing we care to call tradition, but which probably doesn't count for much in reality.   Please don't rubbish American organists!   Look at the inverse situation.....an Englishman in America. What would he have to learn?   Jazz technique, great arranging skills, multiple instrumental resources, piano accompaniment, scoring, orchestration, maybe gospel and close harmony etc. etc.   When people have to move out of their own environment, they immediately embark on a learning curve, and just because we do things differently over here to what you do over there, it is really no excuse for making a false statement.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK                 --- Blaine Ricketts <blainericketts@comcast.net> wrote:   > Isn't this mostly the UK organists? Most US > Academia has not > produced anything but organ performance players who > can't improvise, > transpose, accompany singers or play a moving church > service that would > make you weep. > BR > -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-         _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Hector Olivera at Old South Church in Boston X-Posted From: "Charlie Jack" <Charlie@Jack.NET> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:51:18 -0400   Hector Olivera will be performing a brief (45 minute to 1 hour) 'demonstration' of the organ at Old South Church at Copely Square in Boston on Sunday October 24th at 2:30 pm. The church is open to the public and you are invited to attend. There is no charge.   If you do come, please be sure to grab a flyer about Hector's April 17, 2005 concert at the Methuen Memorial Music Hall.   Charlie Jack -- Charlie Jack Charlie@Jack.NET  
(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC: changes to the "Anglican Orphans of the Storm" list parameters From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:50:09 -0700   I have decided to change the parameters of Anglican Orphans of the Storm (AOOTS), which has turned out to be (sadly) a more apt name than it was at the outset. I am the listowner; here is the new introduction:   "A safe place for those who accept the ministry of women deacons, priests, and bishops, and the full inclusion of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people at all levels of the work, worship, and ordained ministry of the Church. Discuss anything you want -- liturgy, music, pickle recipes, good dance bars -- but mysogenists and homophobes will be permanently kicked and banned. We have to listen to that 24/7 elsewhere; we don't have to listen to it on Anglican Orphans of the Storm. Kindly pass this on to friends who might be interested.   Your Li'l Ol' List Tyrant, Bud."   To join Anglican Orphans of the Storm, go to:   http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/AOOTS/?yguid=3D158612861   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Lynn Dobson Organ in the December 2004 Issue of Wokbench From: "John C. Ziegler" <johnz@just-access.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:59:48 -0700   In addition to reading pipe organ stuff, I also subscribe to and read several wood working magazines. I was surprised when I opened the December issue of Workbench. They have 2 pages of mostly pictures to 2 organs by Lynn Dobson. They also give a link to Dobson Organs. While it gives little details it was good to see the pipe organ given some space in a popular wood working magazine.   you can see 2 of the pictures in small format at: http://www.workbenchmagazine.com/gallery/index.html   John C.Ziegler    
(back) Subject: Re: small scale stopped pipe From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:47:23 -0500   Yes! GG Glatter Gotz used that idea as a base for the compact and = portable series organs begun in the 1950s. Those also had the mouths at the ends to save space. Schlicker, and = others I am sure, also used the idea. Many of these ideas will be found to be historically based. "Nothing new under the sun!" Roy Redman ----- Original Message ----- From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:27 PM Subject: small scale stopped pipe     > Is there such a thing as a very small-scaled stopped pipe--more along a > string-scale, but stopped? > > I may end up putting a few parts together--for fun--as a one manual (no > pedal) residence organ with split keyboard for versatility. Since it = will > be a residence organ, and space is at a bit of a premium, I certainly don't > need a honkin' big 16' bourdon.......I just want 12 stopped pipes for a > common bass 16' octave. > > And what would we call such a rank.....Stopped String 16'? Can't = imagine it > would be very stringy, though, as a stopped rank. > > Maybe I could make it out of PVC pipe....I've heard of that being done. > > BTW, I've often thought it would save some space and weight in small organs > if, say, the bottom octave of the 16' stop was a "unit" manufactured out of > two sheets of (high quality) plywood with dividers sandwiched between, > fitting into routed slots to form the side walls of individual pipes. = Two > adjacent pipes would share a common side wall. Upper ends could be cut = to > length, and mouths could be formed in the usual way; feet perhaps going into > the back side of the pipe bottom. Such a unit would probably be strong > enough to serve as the back or side of a small organ case. Have I just > reinvented the wheel? Has it been done? > > > Dennis Steckley > Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > >