PipeChat Digest #4855 - Thursday, October 28, 2004
 
organ on ebay
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Paradigmatic........
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: leon boellmann
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
bench hopping
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: leon boellmann
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Renewing Worship (Was Re: CD's in worship a.k.a FOILED AGAIN)
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: leon boellmann
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
RE: leon boellmann
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
The Devil's Tunes
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: The Devil's Tunes
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: organ on ebay
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Paradigmatic........
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Boellmann toccata for Sunday...
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: organ on ebay
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: organ on ebay
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: The Devil's Tunes
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Halloween Organ
  by "Just Me Bob" <rammer@zoomlynx.com>
Re: Halloween Organ
  by "Stephanie Gilgut" <steph@sgeinc.com>
Re: Halloween Organ
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: Paradigmatic........
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Halloween Organ
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: Halloween Organ
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
FYI Equipment Breakdown - VERY IMPORTANT - CROSS-POSTED
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Boston Symphony Hall Open House, it's all about the organ
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: Halloween Organ
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: organ on ebay From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:16:16 EDT   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D37577= 47701& rd=3D1       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Paradigmatic........ From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:34:39 -0400   I think what Cantagruel meant when he wrote that Boellmann's Toccata was "paradigmatique" was that it served as a model for subsequent toccatas by other composers.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 10/27/04 12:02 AM, Colin Mitchell at cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   > Hello, > > I checked the word paradigmatic out, and it seems that > it is used to describe the EU. > > One little snippet caught my attention:- > > > "Importantly, as Armstrong especially has shown, the > processes of 'institutionalisation', of the > establishment of routineised responses and the > development of guiding 'norms of appropriateness' may > take place within distinct organisational settings, > leading to potential dissonance....." > > So there we have it! > > Boellmann was responsible for dissonance....shame on > him! > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Re: leon boellmann From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:45:41 -0500   Talking of Martin Luther, did you hear that they have recently = discovered the toilet seat that Luther was sitting on when he wrote the = 95 Theses (the poor man was very prone to constipation)? For a report = of this, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3944549.stm   John Speller ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jan Nijhuis=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: Re: leon boellmann     Also Reformation Day, but that crazy Marty Luther never gets credit = for stapling those 95 theses to the portals at Wittenberg whilst the = trick-or-treaters were prancing around town in their scary costumes = gathering sweets and frightening the neighbors. J      
(back) Subject: bench hopping From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:49:05 -0500   Was this the list that had the discussion about a week ago about European organists who move around on the bench rather than pivotting from the middle?   I observed a "living example" of that this past Sunday.   I attended the Broadway Baptist/Cassavant celebration. The organist was Pierre Pincemaille (probably badly mispelled). He spent a good bit of every piece sitting at the far left end of the bench and would work his way back and forth to the middle. I never saw him move past the middle to the right hand end. The movement was so smooth, I might not have noticed it, except there was a particuarly vigorous passage where he literally hopped his body up in the air to move quickly from the left to the middle. Then I started watching him and saw that he was moving back and forth on the bench pretty constantly. There was one other "hop" in the course of the concert - but the rest was quite smooth. I could not tell, but I assume he was "pushing off" with a foot to slide from side to side (in much the same way we sometimes do to pivot from side to side). He was not wrenching his back to scoot or "cheek walking" - his torso stayed quiet while sliding. In terms of "economy of motion" - I would say that ergonomically, what he was doing had no more wasted motion than pivoting - he simply moved his body laterally so that he remained facing square to the pedalboard. In fact, it would be interesting to do a biomechanical study of the two techniques - I have a feeling what he was doing would create a more natural movement and angle of the knee and hip joints - which would be much better for the organists' body, as long as he isn't stressing his spine to move from side to side. It also allowed him to move to the bottom of the keyboard for "busy" passages there, instead of having to lean to the left to play with the right hand at the low end - in this way his spine also stayed vertical and his shoulders square to the keyboard. The movement was certainly subtle enough not to be distracting, and it definitely did NOT hamper his playing technique in the least.   It was quite interesting to see this in the first concert after the discussion on the list. It made me wonder how many times I haven't noticed, with the movement being so subtle and most organs not being out front and fully visible like the Broadway console for concerts.   Almost makes me want to pull out the old dissertation and get some of these guys to do the questionnaire and see how their musculoskeletal pain compares to ours....   Very interesting... but I think you would have to learn either technique from the very beginning. I don't think it would ever be practical to change or certainly not to switch back and forth. By not remaining centered, the entire sense of orientation to both the pedalboard and the keyboards would be quite different - which leads me to wonder if there are pianists who practice this same technique - and if organists who do this also do the same at the piano... It has to be a totally different kinesthetic process than we who were taught to sit in the middle and stay there have...   Yep - there a bunch of dissertation topics in there if anyone is looking for one....   Margo   -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: leon boellmann From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:55:42 -0400   on 10/27/04 8:45 AM, John L. Speller at jlspeller@swbell.net wrote:   Talking of Martin Luther, did you hear that they have recently discovered the toilet seat that Luther was sitting on when he wrote the 95 Theses = (the poor man was very prone to constipation)? For a report of this, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3944549.stm John Speller     That is indeed interesting. Erik Erikson, in his book _Young Man Luther: = A Study in Psychoanalysis and History_, showed just how important that = toilet seat was. You could say that Luther evacuated salvation by works from Christian theology. The historian quoted in the article was apparently unfamiliar with the twelfth chapter of Rabelais' _Gargantua_, however.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Renewing Worship (Was Re: CD's in worship a.k.a FOILED AGAIN) From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:09:20 -0400   Also, http://www.renewingworship.org/.   --Shirley     On 26 Oct 2004 at 17:26, Beau Surratt expounded: > This, as well as the other volumes in the series included to books of > hymns and songs, can be found at http://www.augsburgfortress.org, the > website of the ELCA publishing house.      
(back) Subject: Re: leon boellmann From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:23:32 -0400   Babelfish. (.com, maybe.)   -Shirley   On 26 Oct 2004 at 19:54, BlueeyedBear@aol.com expounded:   > thanks, john. anybody know of a good translater web site? :)      
(back) Subject: RE: leon boellmann From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:30:28 -0500   =20   i'm trying to find biographical info on leon boellmann, and am coming up shorthanded. i've found a few web sites via google, and have looked in the corliss arnold and kratzenstein books, but they have almost nothing on his life or works. can anyone tell me something more about this composer?   =20   thanks a bunch!   =20   scot in spokane   =20   =20   =20   Hi Scot-   =20   The following site is a very good reference on Leon Boellman, and other French organists of same period, but it's one drawback is that it's in French. Unless you have a good translator, or can read it, it might not be of much use. Do check out the pictures, however.   =20   http://www.musimem.com/orgue.html   =20   Daniel Hancock   Springfield, Missouri   =20  
(back) Subject: The Devil's Tunes From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:15:24 +0800   For some reason that escapes me I have been cut off from posting = privileges on PIPORG-L where the remark about Luther and "why should the Devil have = all the good tunes" was made. The remark was in fact made by General Booth, Founder of the Salvation Army when he wrote his hymn book containing many folk and bar room tunes. The book had hymns to the tune of Annie Laurie = and many other popular songs of that time. The Salvation Army held much of = their services of worship in the outdoors outside bar rooms and taverns. One branch of my family belonged to the Salvation Army many years ago. If someone would post this on PIPORG-L I would be grateful. I can read = that list but in spite of all my efforts to get back on posting I have not been =   successful. Bob Elms.    
(back) Subject: Re: The Devil's Tunes From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:26:16 -0500   Bob,   It is a violation of PIPORG-L guidelines to repost others messages to the list. I have forwarded you posting to the listowners and hope that they will post it for you and otherwise resolve your problem.   JCH     At 10:15 AM 10/27/2004, you wrote: >For some reason that escapes me I have been cut off from posting >privileges on PIPORG-L where the remark about Luther and "why should the >Devil have all the good tunes" was made. The remark was in fact made by >General Booth, Founder of the Salvation Army when he wrote his hymn book >containing many folk and bar room tunes. The book had hymns to the tune = of >Annie Laurie and many other popular songs of that time. The Salvation = Army >held much of their services of worship in the outdoors outside bar rooms >and taverns. One branch of my family belonged to the Salvation Army many >years ago. >If someone would post this on PIPORG-L I would be grateful. I can read >that list but in spite of all my efforts to get back on posting I have = not >been successful. >Bob Elms.      
(back) Subject: Re: organ on ebay From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:59:20 EDT   Hello Gfc234@aol.com,     In reference to your comment: _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D3757= 747701& rd=3D1_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D3757= 747701&rd=3D1) Darn it, Gregory, now I HAD to look around on eBay.... it's all YOUR = fault. I think I bought a Hammond. Gonna help me move it? LOL Victoria  
(back) Subject: Re: Paradigmatic........ From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:23:33 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   So why couldn't he say, "The Boellmann Toccata served as a model for future Toccatas by French composers?"   Like Sir Winston Churchill, I am a simple soul who likes simple language.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK --- Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > I think what Cantagruel meant when he wrote that > Boellmann's Toccata was > "paradigmatique" was that it served as a model for > subsequent toccatas by > other composers.       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Boellmann toccata for Sunday... From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:31:33 -0700   I would love to have scheduled the Boellmann toccata for this Sunday; however, since it's also Reformation Sunday and I am playing in two Lutheran churches, well, Martin Luther takes precedence of course!! So a compromise - Sunday afternoon when the little ghouls and goblins are coming 'round for treats to make their dentists happy, I'll be playing M. Boellmann full blast on the stereo!   ~ C      
(back) Subject: Re: organ on ebay From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:53:13 EDT     In a message dated 10/27/04 11:00:30 AM, Myosotis51@aol.com writes:     >=20 >=20 >=20 > In reference to your comment: > _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219& > item=3D3757747701& > rd=3D1_ > (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219& > item=3D3757747701&rd=3D1) >=20 >=20 > Darn it, Gregory, now I HAD to look around on eBay.... it's all YOUR=A0=20 > fault.=A0 > I think I bought a Hammond.=A0 Gonna help me move=A0 it?=A0=A0 LOL >=20 >=20 > Victoria >=20 >=20   howdy! what kind did you get? where do you live? LOL =20 gfc       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: organ on ebay From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 03:04:37 +0800   When it's reassembled will the first piece played be Julius Fucik's "Einzug= der Gladiatoren" aka "Thunder and Blazes"?   Can they play that in an RC church?     ----- Original Message ----- From: Gfc234@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: organ on ebay Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:16:16 EDT   >=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D375= 7747701& > rd=3D1 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Gregory Ceurvorst   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: The Devil's Tunes From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:39:11 +0800   Thank you JCH. That has brought the attenmtion of the Administrator to the =   problem and it has now been solved.   Thank you for your trouble in doing this. Bob Elms. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:26 PM Subject: Re: The Devil's Tunes     > Bob, > > It is a violation of PIPORG-L guidelines to repost others messages to = the > list. I have forwarded you posting to the listowners and > hope that they will post it for you and otherwise resolve your problem. >  
(back) Subject: Halloween Organ From: "Just Me Bob" <rammer@zoomlynx.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:12:20 -0400   Back in the 60s a Don Knotts comedy film was produced entitled 'The = Ghost and Mr. Chicken'. There are scenes from this movie involving a = pipe organ in an old mansion. I've watched this movie many times, just = to listen to the organ. Every year around this time I wish I had a copy = of the organ piece that was played in the film. Is anyone on the list = familiar with this piece or know where I can obtain a copy? It would be = perfect for Halloween fun!  
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween Organ From: "Stephanie Gilgut" <steph@sgeinc.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:38:47 -0400   It was an excellent movie (and music). As far as I bothered to chase it, Vic Mizzy is the man who wrote it, as well as many other well-known TV / Movie pieces.   If anyone is successful getting the music, please let us know. Steph > > Back in the 60s a Don Knotts comedy film was produced entitled 'The > Ghost and Mr. Chicken'.There are scenes from this movie involving a > pipe organ in an old mansion. I've watched this movie many times, just > to listen to the organ. Every year around this time I wish I had a > copy of the organ piece that was played in the film. Is anyone on the > list familiar with this piece or know where I can obtain a copy? It > would be perfect for Halloween fun!     -- Stephanie Gilgut Troy Weather Network , SGE, Inc, Carey Organ Company, Inc steph@sgeinc.com steph@careyorgan.com Troy, NY    
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween Organ From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:09:40 +0800   There's a nice writeup on the music at http://www.filmmusic.com/soundtracks= /database/?id=3D3659 (Composed the whole thing in four days.)   Album Title: The Ghost and Mr. Chicken Composer: Vic Mizzy Conductor: Vic Mizzy Manufacturer: Percepto Records Year Released: 1966 / 2004 <----- Recently rereleased? Catalog Number: PERCEPTO-015 Film Represented: The Ghost and Mr. Chicken (1966)   Sounds like (pun intended) there are some other gems to be had over at http= ://www.percepto.com/     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Just Me Bob" <rammer@zoomlynx.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Halloween Organ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:12:20 -0400   >=20 > Back in the 60s a Don Knotts comedy film was produced entitled 'The Ghos= t and Mr. Chicken'. There are scenes from this movie involving a pipe organ= in an old mansion. I've watched this movie many times, just to listen to t= he organ. Every year around this time I wish I had a copy of the organ piec= e that was played in the film. Is anyone on the list familiar with this pi= ece or know where I can obtain a copy? It would be perfect for Halloween fu= n! >=20       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: Paradigmatic........ From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:56:06 -0400   Well, for one thing, he wasn't writing in English. "Paradigmatic" may be a= n unusual word in English; that doesn't mean that "paradigmatique" is unusual in French. On the other hand, I can't say as I've ever seen it before in French prose, either. Churchill had a magnificent command of the English language, but I bet he was exaggerating somewhat when he said he was a simple soul.   I've been studying the French language, mainly by teaching it (good way to learn anything!) for most of my life, and I'm still occasionally amazed by words I've either never seen before (like "paradigmatique") or words I thought I knew but in fact did not. Like "la tr=E9pidation." I discovered just today that it does not carry the sense "trepidation" in English does o= f fear or dread. Just the original Latin sense of rapid, often trembling, movement. Un faux ami!     Randolph P. Runyon Professor of French Miami University Oxford, OH 45056 runyonr@muohio.edu       on 10/27/04 12:23 PM, Colin Mitchell at cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   > Hello, >=20 > So why couldn't he say, "The Boellmann Toccata served > as a model for future Toccatas by French composers?" >=20 > Like Sir Winston Churchill, I am a simple soul who > likes simple language. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Colin Mitchell UK    
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween Organ From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:01:50 EDT   I don't know what the organ music in the film was recorded from, but the organ console shown in the movie ( the one where the keys play ) is an old = Baldwin model 10 electronic.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween Organ From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:09:52 EDT   Keith and I have arranged the Toccata and Fugue for piano and organ duet. = We are doing the Toccata during the service and the Toccata and Fugue for the =   Postlude. Poeple associate the Toccata with Halloween, particular The = Ghost and Mr. Chicken and the Phantom of the Opera. I use it every Halloween. Lee  
(back) Subject: FYI Equipment Breakdown - VERY IMPORTANT - CROSS-POSTED From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:48:22 -0400   If your organ breaks down, there is a very good possibility your church has an Equipment Breakdown Insurance Policy that may well cover the repairs.   We are not talking about lightning strikes here, we are talking about simple breakdowns.   Church Pension Group, for example, an Episcopalian denominational insurance provider appears to write this into some of their policies. This policy is designed to cover breakdowns of equipment like furnaces, pumps and ORGANS. Check now and see if your policy at the church has this coverage.   I know of a church that had a major heating system failure and costly, very costly repairs and no one in the church knew that it...nor the refrigeration equipment in the kitchen... could be covered by this policy...so they had to pay out of general funds.   One would assume a good insurance agent would call periodically and ask if there were any losses or breakdowns that they might cover...of course, before long his most frequently repeated phrase would be (just like most Rock and Roll Guitarists) "Do you want fries with that?"   If your church has such a policy or any experience with one, please post so that others may benefit from your knowledge.   -- noel jones, aago noeljones@frogmusic.com ----------------------------------- 1 877 249-5251 Athens, TN USA   www.frogmusic.com Rodgers Organ Users Group Frog Music Press - Organ and MIDI Music FMP Organ Music Search Service Rodgers Organ Design & Voicing Services      
(back) Subject: Re: Boston Symphony Hall Open House, it's all about the organ From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:16:45 -0400   > > Perhaps I'll have a good reason to bury "Take Me Out To the Ballgame" > in THIS Sunday's improvisation! > > Hoping to Reverse the Curse, > > Bill H. > SJE, Boston.   Well, Bill (and others) you have your reason! :) I'd love to hear it, so = make a recording. Congrats to all of our friends in Boston!!!!   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween Organ From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:53:35 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   We don't celebrate halloween too much in the UK, though the more thoughtful children tie door handles together, alter the numbers on garden gates and extort money from vulnerable old ladies.   For those who want to create something really macabre at the organ, I would suggest mixing the Toccata in D minor and the Lloyd Webber "Phantom of the opera."   Those who have a good ear and a formidable technique, might just have time to listen to a remastered recording of Quentin Maclean's brilliant arrangement of "The old man of the mountain."   For the awesomely gifted, there's always the "Danse Macabre"....wasn't it Lemare who transcribed and arranged this?   It's a pity that the spookiest music ever written IMHO, has to the horrendously difficult piano work "Gaspard de la Nuit" by Ravel.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       --- OMusic@aol.com wrote:   > Keith and I have arranged the Toccata and Fugue for > piano and organ duet. We > are doing the Toccata during the service and the > Toccata and Fugue for the > Postlude. Poeple associate the Toccata with > Halloween, particular The Ghost and > Mr. Chicken and the Phantom of the Opera. I use it > every Halloween. Lee >       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail