PipeChat Digest #4738 - Sunday, September 5, 2004
 
Pet Peeve
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: Pet Peeve
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: Pet Peeve
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
the death of grammar
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: the death of grammar
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Moeller vs. Moller
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Moeller vs. Moller
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: the death of grammar
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@comcast.net>
umlautedness
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: umlautedness
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@comcast.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4735 - 09/03/04
  by "David Baker" <dgb137@mac.com>
Electronic Voicing
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Legitimate RC service music
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4739596854 - 093/031/0784
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Pet Peeve
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Re: umlautedness
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Bossi
  by "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
recital in Boston Monday at 7
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
Re: Pet Peeve; a little OT
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
Re: a new setting of "Gentle Mary Laid Her Child"
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
Re: Pet Peeve; a little OT
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Pet Peeve; a little OT
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: the death of grammar
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
 

(back) Subject: Pet Peeve From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 05:35:55 EDT   With this talk of St. Ignatius, NYC, only one person (Sebastian), has managed to spell the name one of the former organs in the church properly. = The church had a Rodgers with a Ruffatti augmented Great division. I = probably sound like I'm whining, but why is it so hard for people to spell Ruffatti (two =   f's and two t's) correctly? People hardly ever even spell Rodgers (with = a d) correctly, either. Call me the spelling nazi, but correct grammar and spelling are pet peeves of mine. Thank you for listening to me gripe. Monty Bennett waiting for our new Ruffatti to come in 2006....  
(back) Subject: RE: Pet Peeve From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:59:18 +0100   You should read, if you haven't already, a wonderful book for "spelling = and grammar Nazis" called Eats Shoots and Leaves! It deals with such important topics as the use of the apostrophe and its various complications!   Will Light Coventry UK     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of RMB10@aol.com Sent: 05 September 2004 10:36 To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Pet Peeve   With this talk of St. Ignatius, NYC, only one person (Sebastian), has managed to spell the name one of the former organs in the church properly. The church had a Rodgers with a Ruffatti augmented Great division. I = probably sound like I'm whining, but why is it so hard for people to spell Ruffatti (two =   f's and two t's) correctly? People hardly ever even spell Rodgers (with = a d) correctly, either. Call me the spelling nazi, but correct grammar and spelling are pet peeves of mine. Thank you for listening to me gripe. Monty Bennett waiting for our new Ruffatti to come in 2006....   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Re: Pet Peeve From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 11:16:36 EDT   Dear Monty: The same lack of care and attention is what makes people constantly talk= =20 about a "Skinner" in a church -- especially when the fane in question never=20 even HAD a Skinner Organ Company organ, Ernest M. Skinner & Son, or otherwis= e.=20 They do not distinguish between Skinner (in its various forms), and=20 AEolian-Skinner. I was particularly stunned by a recent incorrect post from=20= somebody who=20 claims to be an expert devot=E9 of both Skinner and AEolian-Skinner. We all make errors in spelling, grammar, and word order, especially when= =20 hammering out responses on chat lists, but in the past few years, this natio= n=20 has descended into a quagmire of people who cannot distinguish between=20 "you're" and "your," even cowering behind the offensive newspeak of "ur" (is= that Ur=20 of the Chaldees, birthplace of the prophet Abraham?). As my late father did, I lament the death of the adverb. It is a word=20 form almost completely absent from the English language (a practice that mus= t end=20 quick). Illiteracy, like so much other low-brow stuff, is now championed wit= h=20 pride by our culture, and is officially sanctioned at the highest levels.=20 Woe is me (woe are me? woe be me?). What-EVER!!! Let's go to the mall, and then watch "The Real World"...   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/   ..  
(back) Subject: the death of grammar From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:57:06 -0700   To Seb's list I would add loose and lose, discrete and discreet and a host of others.   In our own corner of the world, "Moeller" is one of MY pet peeves. It never HAD an umlaut. It's spelled "Moller," plain and simple, as any console name-plate will testify.   One of my hobbies is reading and writing fan fiction. Fan fiction writers solicit feedback. I have been called every name in the book for commenting that I won't read a story if it has ten spelling or grammar errors in the first paragraph (chuckle). Granted, a spell-checker won't catch homonyms, but that's what beta readers (proof-readers) are for = (grin).   Of course, I went to secondary school and college in the dear, dead days of spelling bees and grammar handbooks, when a teacher would give a paper an "F" if it contained spelling and grammar errors, no matter HOW excellent the content.   To keep this marginally on-topic, the late Professor Robert Melcher, sometime head of the music theory department at Oberlin Conservatory, insisted that everything turned in to him be done in india ink, using templates, etc.   "Music is a language," he said; "those who cannot read and write it are illiterate." (chuckle)   Every time I open Sibelius, I think of "Papa" Melcher, and how he would have LOVED computer music engraving.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: the death of grammar From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:07:13 -0400     On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:57:06 -0700 Liquescent <quilisma@cox.net> writes:   > In our own corner of the world, "Moeller" is one of MY pet peeves. > It never HAD an umlaut. It's spelled "Moller," plain and simple, as any         Au Contraire. The older namplates which bear a signature (M. P Moller) do use the umlaut.     Jim                         *There are 10 types of people in the world: Those that understand binary, and those that don't.*  
(back) Subject: Moeller vs. Moller From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:28:01 -0700   It is entirely possible that I'm suffering from Midzheimer's (grin), but I've played everything from an early Moller tracker to a bar-and-membrane TP (EEEWWW!) to '20's Blow-Holers to last-gasp ones, and I don't recall seeing it, even on the name plates with the signature.   I wonder at what point they dropped it?   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Moeller vs. Moller From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:43:03 -0500   I've got a couple of old M=F6ller nameplates -- one in block lettering from= =20 the late 20's, and one in script from the 60's -- both have umlauts,= FWIW....   --Tim   At 11:28 AM 9/5/2004, Bud wrote: >It is entirely possible that I'm suffering from Midzheimer's (grin), but=20 >I've played everything from an early Moller tracker to a bar-and-membrane= =20 >TP (EEEWWW!) to '20's Blow-Holers to last-gasp ones, and I don't recall=20 >seeing it, even on the name plates with the signature.    
(back) Subject: Re: the death of grammar From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:48:29 -0700   My 3 rank M=F6ller Opus 7811 from 1948 has the umlaut.   Blaine Ricketts     Jim McFarland wrote:   >On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:57:06 -0700 Liquescent <quilisma@cox.net> writes: > > > >>In our own corner of the world, "Moeller" is one of MY pet peeves. >>It never HAD an umlaut. It's spelled "Moller," plain and simple, as any >> >> > > > > >Au Contraire. The older namplates which bear a signature (M. P Moller) >do use the umlaut. > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > >*There are 10 types of people in the world: >Those that understand binary, and those that don't.* > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > >    
(back) Subject: umlautedness From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:30:04 -0700   I stand corrected (chuckle).   What?   I'm not ALWAYS right (grin).   Cheers,   Bud          
(back) Subject: Re: umlautedness From: "mack02445" <mack02445@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:45:39 -0400   LOL another Sr. Moment???? :-D   Liquescent wrote:   > I stand corrected (chuckle). > > What? > > I'm not ALWAYS right (grin). > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4735 - 09/03/04 From: "David Baker" <dgb137@mac.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:54:29 -0400   St. Iggy's Mander went in in 1993, according to the NYCAGO.org website. Prior to that was only a Rogers - there was no Ruffati, alas. I was the interim immediately prior to Kent Tritle becoming titulaire. Kent got the Mander (with a little help from some friends). When I was there, the casework was still there from the pipe organ but the chamber was empty. David Baker     > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glenda wrote: > >> (1) When did St. Ignatius NYC get its Mander? And what did it have >> before the Mander? > > A Rogers-Ruffati combo. Before that was a 19th century pipe organ, but > I > don't remember what. > > Cheers, > > Bud    
(back) Subject: Electronic Voicing From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:27:08 -0500   A thought occured to me today. We talk about how important it is to voice =   an electronic organ to fit its room, rather than just "plugging it in" and =   proponents of electronic organs in this room have argued that most of us pipe organ people have been swayed by hearing unvoiced electronic organs. =   Anyway, what I was wondering is, could someone explain a little bit about how voicing an electronic works. Most of us know that voicing pipes involves cut-up, nicking, toe-hole size adjustment, etc. What is an electronic organ voicer doing exactly? Please don't be afraid to get technical. I really want to know. (Only because I'm curious... I'm not looking for a level of detail that will allow me to go out and do it myself). I realize that this is not the place to write some sort of = manual, just looking for a summary.   Andy     A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Legitimate RC service music From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:18:09 -0500   WRT to Ron's comment to Bud,   > Bud: > > RC music is in such a state right now that I doubt we'll ever recover > from it. If I hear any more of that Haugen rubbish I will scream so loud > you'll hear me in SD. > > Ron   this link says it better than I'm able:   <http://www.mgilleland.com/music/moratorium.htm>   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4739596854 - 093/031/0784 From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 15:19:47 EDT     In a message dated 09/05/04 1:55:04 PM, dgb137@mac.com writes:   << St. Iggy's Mander went in in 1993. Prior to that was only a 'Rogers' - there was no 'Ruffati,' alas. David Baker>>   Then that was AFTER the pipework was removed, which I actually played and = saw. Sebastian    
(back) Subject: Re: Pet Peeve From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:11:05 -0400   Sebastian, I thought Abraham was a patriach, not a prophet?!   While we are at it, it's Ross's, not Ross' when you talk of something that= =20 Ross owns like a set of stopped flute pipes from a 1910 M. P. M=F6ller=20 tracker organ. Unfortunately, Ross's stoppers need to be releathered.   And then there's refer back. No, no, no, it's simply refer. I now refer to= =20 the M=F6ller pipes.   Please, don't get me started; it is FORmidable, not forMIDable. The=20 seven-rank M=F6ller was certainly not a FORmidable organ.   Now I am leaving for my support group, OnanonAnon . (8-P   ____________________________________________ Ross Coulson "Cole" Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA   Sebastian wrote: >Dear Monty: > ... the prophet Abraham ....    
(back) Subject: Re: umlautedness From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:21:08 -0400   Perhaps, Bud is just ahead of the curve? Aren't our German friends doing an= =20 orthography reform? I've heard on DW news that there is quite a bit of=20 controversy over the elimination of umlauts and the sharp s (=DF). When I=20 took German in high school all those years ago, I found the little quirks=20 to be quite charming. I could liken it to a very subtle chiff or the=20 shimmering of a celeste--exquisite and lovely.   Bud wrote: >I stand corrected (chuckle). > >What? > >I'm not ALWAYS right (grin). > >Cheers, > >Bud    
(back) Subject: Bossi From: "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:58:51 -0300   Hello, list.   Has somebody the volume II of Bossi Orgelwerke, of Peters publisher? If, 'yes', please, I need to know if this book contain a forward about the pieces, especially about 'Legende' op. 132 no. 1.Any information about on the matter will be appreciated (especially about registration in Bossi).   Thank you. Domitila        
(back) Subject: recital in Boston Monday at 7 From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:13:31 -0400     http://www.flc-boston.org/music-arts.html   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty Boston, MA 02131 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/      
(back) Subject: Re: Pet Peeve; a little OT From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:18:21 -0400   My pet peeve is real estate agents' carelessness when filling out the descriptions for properties they list on the multiple listing service, for = a few thousand other real estate agents to see! Here is just one example: = a god-sized room !!!   Speaking of punctuation, how would you punctuate this:   Woman without her man is nothing   Merry   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty Boston, MA 02131 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 7:59 AM Subject: RE: Pet Peeve     > You should read, if you haven't already, a wonderful book for "spelling and > grammar Nazis" called Eats Shoots and Leaves! It deals with such = important > topics as the use of the apostrophe and its various complications! > > Will Light > Coventry UK > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > RMB10@aol.com > Sent: 05 September 2004 10:36 > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Pet Peeve > > With this talk of St. Ignatius, NYC, only one person (Sebastian), has > managed to spell the name one of the former organs in the church = properly. > The > church had a Rodgers with a Ruffatti augmented Great division. I probably > sound > like I'm whining, but why is it so hard for people to spell Ruffatti = (two > f's and two t's) correctly? People hardly ever even spell Rodgers = (with a > d) > correctly, either. Call me the spelling nazi, but correct grammar and > spelling are pet peeves of mine. > > Thank you for listening to me gripe. > > Monty Bennett > waiting for our new Ruffatti to come in 2006.... > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: a new setting of "Gentle Mary Laid Her Child" From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:24:20 -0400   i'll have it. thanx!     =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty Boston, MA 02131 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> To: <anglican-music@list.stsams.org>; "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: a new setting of "Gentle Mary Laid Her Child"     > A big "thank-you" to Dan Brittain for finding the lovely modal tune in > "The Missouri Harmony." > > I've sent this out to my download list; if anybody else wants it, please > e-mail me privately. It's just a one-page hymn-tune setting ... nothing > fancy. It's a freebie (grin). > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pet Peeve; a little OT From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:29:24 -0700   Woman without; her man is nothing (giggle)   Bud, raised on Shakespeare, the KJV, and the BCP   Merry Foxworth wrote:   > My pet peeve is real estate agents' carelessness when filling out the > descriptions for properties they list on the multiple listing service, = for a > few thousand other real estate agents to see! Here is just one = example: a > god-sized room !!! > > Speaking of punctuation, how would you punctuate this: > > Woman without her man is nothing > > Merry > > =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- > =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) > ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:- > > An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", > published in Longman Pocket Companions: > "There let the pealing organ blow, > To the full-voiced choir below, > In service high, and anthems clear, > As may with sweetness, through mine ear, > Dissolve me into ecstasies, > And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". > John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632). > > Merry Foxworth > Open Door Realty > Boston, MA 02131 > 617 469-4888 x207 > 877 865-1703 toll free > http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> > To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 7:59 AM > Subject: RE: Pet Peeve > > > >>You should read, if you haven't already, a wonderful book for "spelling > > and > >>grammar Nazis" called Eats Shoots and Leaves! It deals with such = important >>topics as the use of the apostrophe and its various complications! >> >>Will Light >>Coventry UK >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of >>RMB10@aol.com >>Sent: 05 September 2004 10:36 >>To: pipechat@pipechat.org >>Subject: Pet Peeve >> >>With this talk of St. Ignatius, NYC, only one person (Sebastian), has >>managed to spell the name one of the former organs in the church = properly. >>The >>church had a Rodgers with a Ruffatti augmented Great division. I > > probably > >>sound >>like I'm whining, but why is it so hard for people to spell Ruffatti = (two >>f's and two t's) correctly? People hardly ever even spell Rodgers = (with > > a > >>d) >>correctly, either. Call me the spelling nazi, but correct grammar and >>spelling are pet peeves of mine. >> >>Thank you for listening to me gripe. >> >>Monty Bennett >>waiting for our new Ruffatti to come in 2006.... >> >>****************************************************************** >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >>List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >> >> >>****************************************************************** >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >>List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >> >> > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pet Peeve; a little OT From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:31:10 -0400   on 9/5/04 7:18 PM, Merry Foxworth at m.foxworth@verizon.net wrote:     > > Speaking of punctuation, how would you punctuate this: > > Woman without her man is nothing     Woman: without her, man is nothing.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: the death of grammar From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:33:50 -0400   complement and compliment principal and principle etc.     =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty Boston, MA 02131 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:57 AM Subject: the death of grammar     > To Seb's list I would add loose and lose, discrete and discreet and a > host of others. > > In our own corner of the world, "Moeller" is one of MY pet peeves. It > never HAD an umlaut. It's spelled "Moller," plain and simple, as any > console name-plate will testify. > > One of my hobbies is reading and writing fan fiction. Fan fiction > writers solicit feedback. I have been called every name in the book for > commenting that I won't read a story if it has ten spelling or grammar > errors in the first paragraph (chuckle). Granted, a spell-checker won't > catch homonyms, but that's what beta readers (proof-readers) are for (grin). > > Of course, I went to secondary school and college in the dear, dead days > of spelling bees and grammar handbooks, when a teacher would give a > paper an "F" if it contained spelling and grammar errors, no matter HOW > excellent the content. > > To keep this marginally on-topic, the late Professor Robert Melcher, > sometime head of the music theory department at Oberlin Conservatory, > insisted that everything turned in to him be done in india ink, using > templates, etc. > > "Music is a language," he said; "those who cannot read and write it are > illiterate." (chuckle) > > Every time I open Sibelius, I think of "Papa" Melcher, and how he would > have LOVED computer music engraving. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >