PipeChat Digest #4760 - Sunday, September 12, 2004 NYC Mormon Center Pipe Organ by <TubaMagna@aol.com> Housing costs by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <email@example.com> Re: NYC Mormon Center Pipe Organ by "Andy Lawrence" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Economics of geography and relocation by <OMusic@aol.com> OFF-TOPIC: delete if not interested -- housing and hate groups by "Liquescent" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: NYC Mormon Center Pipe Organ From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:21:35 EDT Voicing and tonal finishing have commenced on the new organ for the = New York Stake Center of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The instrument is a good example of a very small organ filling a large = space without being harsh, overdriven, or strident. It also dismantles the = myth that pipe organs are unaffordable. The stoplist and a photograph (which can be enlarged with a = double-click like all photographs on the site) can be viewed by selecting the "current projects" area from the menu bar atop our website: http://www.glucknewyork.com/ Sebastian M. Gluck New York City The American Institute of Organbuilders' Convention September 28 through October 1 is open to non-members as well as members... register now ..
(back) Subject: Housing costs From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:25:31 -0500 I hear you, Bud. It does require some care, but some of these small midwestern towns have a strong tradition that, while they know everybody's business, they also mind their own business! Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines
(back) Subject: Re: NYC Mormon Center Pipe Organ From: "Andy Lawrence" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:39:33 -0500 Seb, Checked out the organ on your site. Bravo. I'd love to chat with you sometime about small organ philosophy. I think I'll be in NYC soon, = perhaps visiting regularly. I agree with much of what everyone is saying about = why organs are losing popularity. I think another reason is that in the past, = organists were satisfied with small organs and made great music on them. Now so many organists demand large organs, and try to convince their congregations that only a large organ will work, and end up really convincing them that an organ is just plain impractical. I am fascinated = by what can be done with a small organ, if well designed and carefully registered. In fact, I've heard some really good music from "bad" small organs, carefully registered. I have a hypothetical small organ in mind. It comes from the fact that = some of my favorite organs have been small, old, one manual trackers. Because they have only one division, it can be well developed and still have a = small total number of registers. So I had the idea of a similar organ, but on unit action so that one can have the flexibility of two manuals, but voice = it like these old 1 manual organs. All in one box: 8' Open Diapason 8' Stopped Diapason 8' Gemshorn 8' Gemshorn Celeste 4' Octave 2 2/3' Quinte 2' Super Octave 1 1/5' Seventeenth 8' Big Oboe or Small Trumpet (or better yet, big trumpet under double expression) ....and duplex that over 2 manuals. And I don't mean swapping things = around so stops play at one pitch on one manual and at another on the other manual. That technique drives me crazy... just confuses the organist! I mean just straight duplexing. Oh, and it should ideally have a couple of independent pedal stops. Maybe = a 16' Bourdon extended to 8' and an 8' Open extended to 4'. Maybe even = extend them to 4' and 2', respectively. I figure extensions work pretty well in pedal divisions where you are rarely playing more than one note at a time, = and where treble ascendency is not as much of a factor. Generally, my philosophy on tonal development is to have a well developed great first (under expression perhaps), before providing an independent pedal or swell. Then, an independent pedal is next. Then, and only then, = start developing an independent swell. Then a choir or solo, etc. As opposed to the more common approach which is to develop each division equally. I see the logic to this, but I think my idea is better. If you have a 9 rank organ with great, swell, and pedal developed equally, you might have: Great: 8' Open 8' Chimney 4' Octave Swell: 8' Stopped 4' Chimney 2' Principal Pedal: 16' Bourdon 8' Bourdon 4' Choral Pretty limited! But take 9 ranks with my approach and it might look more like this: Great, duplexed over two manuals: 8' Open 8' Stopped 8' String or Gemshorn 8' Celeste 4' Octave 2 2/3' Quinte 2' Super 8' Trumpet Pedal: 16' Bourdon, extended to 8' and perhaps 4' Trumpet and other stops duplexed from Great Now you can play a lot of music. If you want to play a lot of Bach, you might sacrifice the celeste in favor of a pedal prinipal unit, though you could still pull it off using the trumpet in the pedal and not in the = great to give the pedal an independent voice. Basically I'd rather rob from the least important division than from all divisions. But my idea is purely hypothetical. I've never built an organ = and may never, but if I ever did, I think enough organists would disagree with my approach as to keep me from being very successful! Anyone like my hypothetical organ that I'm unlikely to ever build? = Totally bogus? Absurd? Andy > Voicing and tonal finishing have commenced on the new organ for > the New York Stake Center of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- > Day Saints. The instrument is a good example of a very small > organ filling a large space without being harsh, overdriven, or > strident. It also dismantles the myth that pipe organs are unaffordable. > The stoplist and a photograph (which can be enlarged with a > double-click like all photographs on the site) can be viewed by > selecting the "current projects" area from the menu bar atop our = website: > > http://www.glucknewyork.com/ > A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com
(back) Subject: Re: Economics of geography and relocation From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:58:34 EDT Here in North Texas we have a few tornado alerts, but the weather has been = rather mild this summer. We've had more rain than any summer in the = history of Denton, so it is very green and the crepe myrtles are all in bloom. It's = a pretty good place to live. Lee (with Native American, Scottish and = English ancestors)
(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC: delete if not interested -- housing and hate groups From: "Liquescent" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:16:52 -0700 Go to http://www.splcenter.org/intel/hatewatch/ and click on "hate groups map." These are the DOCUMENTED sites and organizations that Southern Poverty Law Center monitors. Califoria has a high percentage, sadly, probably the descendants of the great migration west during the years of the Depression; they are still largely confined to rural areas, where the misperception that non-whites have taken away jobs which rightfully belong to whites has been passed down from generation to generation. The cluster just outside San Diego is a Klan compound back in the hills of East County, and an Aryan Nation "church" compound. I'm rather surprised there aren't more in Idaho, given the number of white supremacists and militia types who have settled there in recent = years. Cheers, Bud First Christian Church of Casey, IL wrote: > I hear you, Bud. It does require some care, but some of these small > midwestern towns have a strong tradition that, while they know = everybody's > business, they also mind their own business! > > Dennis Steckley > Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:email@example.com > Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:email@example.com> > List-Digest: <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:email@example.com> > >