PipeChat Digest #4773 - Thursday, September 16, 2004
 
Organ Study
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Jerusalem
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Request for Info on Henri Dallier X-posted
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: Organ Study
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Ivan and Glenda
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Leupold Franck Edition
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Ivan and Glenda
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Dale's Dilemma
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Dale's Dilemma
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Ivan and Glenda
  by "rgunther@cantv.net" <rgunther@cantv.net>
OFF-TOPIC: Florida
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: OFF-TOPIC: Florida
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Organ Study
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: OFF-TOPIC: Florida
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Organ Study
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
The Hymnal 1940
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: payment & disabling organ
  by <Seedlac@aol.com>
Re: The Hymnal 1940
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: The Hymnal 1940
  by "Dennis" <dj5311@earthlink.net>
RE: The Hymnal 1940
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: Ivan and Glenda
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
 

(back) Subject: Organ Study From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 04:27:34 -0700 (PDT)   Dear List, I have decided, now that I've reached the ripe old age of 27, and have been working with organs for a while, that I have developed a level of respect and love for the organ to really dig in and learn how to play them properly. I made an attempt 10 years ago, while in High School, to learn = to play. I simply did not have the ability, or maturity to give the organ = the time and level of responsibility required. I also think it would be destructive in the long term to keep tinkering about on the organ as I do, and reinforce bad habits! I would consider my current organ-playing to be fumbling and improper. I can limp through various pieces, but only after essentially memorizing them. I can sight-read very slowly but my lack of manual/pedal technique holds me back more than my reading. I attend Christ Church in Ansonia, CT. As you know, we have a dynamite 1899 Hutchings, tonally and almost mechanically original. I'd love to be able to play it some day when the organist is on vacation! The = traditional Episcopal/Anglican music is my first love, and my ultimate goal. That and the Saint-Saens Echo Fantasy in Eb. (C: So, for the organists and organ-teachers out there, I would be = interested in your comments. Thanks! - Nate Famous Rector quote: "You're no different than the Sexton. The Sexton = has his lawn-mower, and you have your organ...."    
(back) Subject: Re: Jerusalem From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:40:10 -0500       oooh - I think anyone who played "Marching through Georgia" in Georgia _today_ would be fired - much less many years ago. The only way they would get by with it would be if _no one_ recognized the tune.   Other Civil War songs ok - but one that glorifies Sherman? In any state he "marched" through, raping, pillaging, and burning a 100 mile wide path.... not a good choice of literature.   Margo (born in Georgia...)   Will Light wrote: > Many years ago, I heard a story about a Theatre Organist in the deep > south somewhere. He was sacked by the manager, and told to leave after > the Saturday night show. The organist chose as his final parting > postlude, ?Marching through Georgia?. The audience rioted and wrecked > the theatre. By the time the manager came looking for him, the organist > was long gone! > > Can anyone tell me if there was any basis in fact for this story, or is > it interesting but apocryphal? > > > > Will Light > Coventry UK > >   -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: Request for Info on Henri Dallier X-posted From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:54:27 -0500   There is a website in French at = http://www.musimem.com/prix-rome-1870-1879.htm#dallier from which I can = glean the following.   Henri-Edmond Dallier was born at Reims March 20, 1849. After training = with local organists in Reims he later studied organ and composition = with C=E9sar Franck and Fran=E7ois Bazin in Paris. He became organist = of St. Eustache in Paris in 1878, and of the Church of the Madeleine in = 1905. He hedl this post until his death on December 23, 1934.   John Speller   ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Larry Wheelock=20 To: PipeChat ; Pipe Related Topics Organs and=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:02 PM Subject: Request for Info on Henri Dallier X-posted     I am looking for biographical material -- anything at all really about = Henri Dallier. I have done a number of web-searches and found his dates = but the only page with extensive material is totally in French which I = can not read. Has anyone out there info for a program blurb? Larry Wheelock Director of Music Ministries Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, Wisconsin musicdirector@kenwood-umc.org
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Study From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:03:40 -0500     At 06:27 AM 9/16/2004, you wrote: > I'd love to be >able to play it some day when the organist is on vacation!   Go for it !! You are never too old to start, although at my age I find it much more difficult to learn to play than when I was younger and less motivated. I too would like to be able to =   sub someday.   Good luck.   Jon        
(back) Subject: Ivan and Glenda From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:14:40 -0500   I just spoke with Glenda and they are fine. They lost power last night at 7:40 PM but remarkably their phone line is still functioning. Her cell phone however does not, I gather they lost a cell tower. She has not ventured out of the house as of yet since they are still getting rain and strong winds but the only damage she can see on their property is one 35' tree that is down.   From watching the Weather Channel and knowing both the Pensacola area along with the Mobile area I have been seeing much damage especially in the Downtown Historic area of Pensacola with many trees down although it doesn't look like there was much flooding in either place.   I will talk to Glenda later today and give an update. They still have the southern side of Ivan coming through their area.   David  
(back) Subject: Leupold Franck Edition From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:27:56 -0500   Hi! Well...I'm back after a bit of a hiatus from the list over the past few months. I have a question about Wayne Leupold's new edition of Franck- for any of you who have seen it, do you think it is worth the money?   I have the Dover edition and have been reading up in the Rollin Smith books among others and such. I wonder if it might be useful to have lots of Franck scholarship in the actual edition of the scores I use which is the what I percieve the Leupold edition to be.   I'm not sure about the particular edition of the scores in Leupold- it is supposedly a conglomerate of various autographs and such to make a final edition which should be the most accurate.   What do y'all think?     Blessings, Beau Surratt      
(back) Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:11:58 -0600   Hello, David, et al: I have been monitoring the progress of the storm with the WeatherBug maping/weather service. The rain portion of the hurricane is now all north of Glenda, up in my cousin's backyard south of Montgomery. Thank you for posting about Glenda. I have to go see one of Glenda's cousins now, Michelle Sutton. <grins> We are having some legal work done, and it's maybe just a coincidence that our attorney is a Sutton, too. Will check in later this afternoon. Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: Dale's Dilemma From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:43:18 -0500   Dale said: dale in Florida missing really badly directing the music at a reform temple in Cinti Ohio---especially the next month."   Uh, one question, Dale: Do you direct the music "really badly," or do you miss directing it "really badly"?   I know what you mean--but I misread it the first time! ;>)   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Re: Dale's Dilemma From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:56:45 EDT   In a message dated 9/16/2004 11:41:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, = kzrev@rr1.net writes:   > know what you mean--but I misread it the first time! ;>) >   my first High Holy Day was something else.............   but it is a hole in my heart when i do not get to hear the Kol Nidre and Shalom Rav.......i had a knockout quartet and always a good visiting cantor....except one year.   as to the double meaning, well..........i usually think about what i am saying :-0   dale in Florida  
(back) Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda From: "rgunther@cantv.net" <rgunther@cantv.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:05:44 -0400   Here in South FL we have the first sunny day in this week, but we are awaiting the next hurricane - "JIM". Gosh. A pretty active year. Best for Glenda, and greetings to all. To AIO Members: See you in NY. Off - topic yours Andres :)     ----------- Mensaje Original --------------   De: David Scribner [david@blackiris.com] Para: pipechat@pipechat.org [pipechat@pipechat.org] Cc: Asunto: Ivan and Glenda Fecha: 16/09/2004 09:16:24 Mensaje:   I just spoke with Glenda and they are fine. They lost power last night at 7:40 PM but remarkably their phone line is still functioning. Her cell phone however does not, I gather they lost a cell tower. She has not ventured out of the house as of yet since they are still getting rain and strong winds but the only damage she can see on their property is one 35' tree that is down.   From watching the Weather Channel and knowing both the Pensacola area along with the Mobile area I have been seeing much damage especially in the Downtown Historic area of Pensacola with many trees down although it doesn't look like there was much flooding in either place.   I will talk to Glenda later today and give an update. They still have the southern side of Ivan coming through their area.   David   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Florida From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:19:31 -0700   Andres, you sure picked a heck of a time to move to Florida ... this has been an UNBELIEVABLE hurricane season. I have family in Polk County (Lakeland, Bartow, Mulberry, Lake Wales) ... they have been spared, but Lake Wales wasn't. A lot of people from Polk County have summer homes on Anna Maria Island, in the mouth of Tampa Bay ... haven't heard the latest report from there.   Cheers,   Bud   rgunther@cantv.net wrote:   > Here in South FL we have the first sunny day in this week, but we are > awaiting the next hurricane - "JIM". Gosh. A pretty active year. > Best for Glenda, and greetings to all. To AIO Members: See you in NY. > Off - topic yours > Andres :) > > > ----------- Mensaje Original -------------- > > De: David Scribner [david@blackiris.com] > Para: pipechat@pipechat.org [pipechat@pipechat.org] > Cc: > Asunto: Ivan and Glenda > Fecha: 16/09/2004 09:16:24 > Mensaje: > > I just spoke with Glenda and they are fine. They lost power last > night at 7:40 PM but remarkably their phone line is still > functioning. Her cell phone however does not, I gather they lost a > cell tower. She has not ventured out of the house as of yet since > they are still getting rain and strong winds but the only damage she > can see on their property is one 35' tree that is down. > > From watching the Weather Channel and knowing both the Pensacola area > along with the Mobile area I have been seeing much damage especially > in the Downtown Historic area of Pensacola with many trees down > although it doesn't look like there was much flooding in either place. > > I will talk to Glenda later today and give an update. They still > have the southern side of Ivan coming through their area. > > David > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC: Florida From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:25:17 EDT   BUD,     Even Wrinklewood got waves of great standing when Ivan went by. Hope AM = and the rest are okay.     WE are NOT pleased the Jeanne is out there.....were you here for Donna? i have a friend in Lake Wales and she lost her roof twice.   Praying that deaths are minimal in the gulf region although i understand = that the Interstate 10 bridge to Pensacola did not fare well.     I am immediately commencing a job search in Chicago, St Louis, Pittsburgh = or NYC.....   we did learn that AA, C and D are the only letters you need to know in the =   alphabet.   Sleeping under the stars is nice except when it is from you own bed.   dale in Florida  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Study From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:34:51 -0500   I'm 29 and took my first organ lesson about 6 years ago with the Dartmouth =   College organist (Sherryl Smith-Babbitt, now Smith-Pond)   I am held back by lack of dexterity, basically, but have developed = excellent technique and practice habits. If you were closer to VT I'd help you with =   these. Find a good teacher. And practice. _Really_ practice. This = means not playing the piece over and over again, but working through it, = starting with the weakest spots. Use a metronome to force yourself to go really slowly to get it right, and gradually speed it up. Once you have it up to =   speed, use the metronome again to force yourself to go slow again to see = if you have developed sloppiness. If you have, you will actually have = trouble playing it slowly, and then you can work on that again.   Do hymns! If you can develop a good hymn-playing technique, you've basically got the technique that will then apply to the literature. Play the upper 3 parts on a manual and the bass in the pedal. Plan your fingerings and stick to them, including for the pedals. Don't just stab = at the pedals... put your heels together for 3rds, 4ths, and 5ths and knees together to feel 6th thru octaves. Pretty soon you'll almost never have = to look down, and you won't miss. I now find that when I make a mistake its almost always a finger, not a foot. (The pedal part is the easiest, after =   all... just one note at time usually!)   The other thing, once you've got the technique, you've got to do it in = front of people! Even if you develop good technique and a repertoire of hymns = and pieces, you won't be able to just jump in when the organist is on = vacation. You've gotta do it regularly. What I did was found an organistless church =   that would let me play voluntarily on a regular basis. It was pretty sketchy at first but after a few weeks got tolerable and then finally = pretty good, and they _really_ appreciated it!   Good luck!   Andy     On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 04:27:34 -0700 (PDT), Nathan Smith wrote > Dear List, > I have decided, now that I've reached the ripe old age of 27, and > have been working with organs for a while, that I have developed a > level of respect and love for the organ to really dig in and learn > how to play them properly. I made an attempt 10 years ago, while in > High School, to learn to play. I simply did not have the ability, > or maturity to give the organ the time and level of responsibility required.     A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC: Florida From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:54:34 -0700   I left Florida in 1962; the only one I really remember was the big one in 1950, right after our house on Anna Maria was finished. We chose to ride it out on the island; we were marooned for several days because a barge from Port Tampa broke loose and took out the part of the old wooden bridge to the mainland that opened and closed.   Oh, and there was one sometime in the late '50s, after we moved to Bartow. I remember having to crank down the 100' TV antenna and lay it on the ground (that was LONG before cable, when the nearest stations were Tampa and Jacksonville).   I think that was the one when the Methodist church lost its steeple and the roof on the north transept and the Aeolian organ got flooded.   I was evening organist at the Methodist church, and I remember playing the piano and then a borrowed B-3 while the Aeolian was being repaired. But it never really worked right after that; eventually they got a second-hand McManis unit organ.   Cheers,   Bud   Keys4bach@aol.com wrote:   > BUD, > > > Even Wrinklewood got waves of great standing when Ivan went by. Hope > AM and the rest are okay. > > > WE are NOT pleased the Jeanne is out there.....were you here for Donna? > i have a friend in Lake Wales and she lost her roof twice. > > Praying that deaths are minimal in the gulf region although i understand =   > that the Interstate 10 bridge to Pensacola did not fare well. > > > I am immediately commencing a job search in Chicago, St Louis, > Pittsburgh or NYC..... > > we did learn that AA, C and D are the only letters you need to know in > the alphabet. > > Sleeping under the stars is nice except when it is from you own bed. > > dale in Florida      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Study From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:09:20 -0700   What Andy said (grin).   I was a church organist ... oh, let me think ... from age 10 until I went to college, basically ... without having much formal instruction.   I learned to play the organ by learning to play hymns, in every possible key and every possible permutation.   I learned to play the pedals (sorta) when I found an old copy of Stainer's "The Organ" in the public library.   I learned registration by having to play some REALLY *weird* organs (Aeolian, Hope-Jones), and some really BAD organs (Austin/Wurlitzer [!]), and generally having to "make do."   I learned how to tune and do simple repairs for basically the same reason. Those organs saw a tuner once a year if they were LUCKY. If something went wrong, they sat silent for weeks or months, unless I could fix them.   Most of what I learned about harmonics and mixture composition, I learned from tinkering with Hammonds (chuckle).   And I practiced CONSTANTLY ... 3:30-5:30 p.m. after school EVERY day, and longer on Saturday (until the altar guild would get tired of listening to me and kick me out) (chuckle).   I took piano kicking and screaming for twelve years ... I HATED the piano ... but in retrospect I wish I'd applied myself. I never really had the "chops" to play the big French romantic pieces BECAUSE I never really had the piano technique.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: The Hymnal 1940 From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:45:04 -0500   Okay, folks. I've decided it's time I acquired "The Hymnal 1940." Am I to assume there is an organists/keyboard edition I should look for? I have very little familiarity with the Episcopal Church, but I seem to recall the pew editions were words and melody line only.   What do I want? Anybody got one they'd like to sell?   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Re: payment & disabling organ From: <Seedlac@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:04:20 EDT   I have been following this thread with interest. My experience, from the repair side, is that churches will purchase an instrument from an = out-of-town firm and not make proper arrangements for its service needs. In one case the President of a well know company called and asked if our firm could make a repair on a new instrument. After several hours of = diagnosis, we felt many pipes had to be removed in order to pull up the toeboards and =   install shims to prevent the sliders from binding. This being a Thursday afternoon, and their work crew being in town installing another = instrument, I called the builder and voiced my concern about the scope of the job and could not = one of his technicians stop by to advise. I also posed the question of who was =   going to pay for it. To this he became angry and said he would get someone = else if I was not willing to do the work, and the church will pay for it. In several other instances problems have surfaced and the organist = exclaims that the organ is under warrantee and I should fix it. I gently remind the =   organist that the company that built the instrument is liable and that my = company is not their branch office.   Steve Baltimore    
(back) Subject: Re: The Hymnal 1940 From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:20:03 -0700   Sadly, the spiral-bound organist's edition is POP ... look for it used.   One turned up here in that list of hymnals I posted ... George was SWAMPED with calls from people wanting to purchase it (!) ... one priest raced all the way down from ALPINE, but it had already been sold = (chuckle).   If it's still in such demand, I don't understand why the Church Pension Fund doesn't simply REPRINT it.   Here's what you CAN do, though ... I THINK they still sell the full music pew edition ... if not, beg one from one of your local Episcopal churches. Take it to Kinko's or a bindery; have them cut JUST ENOUGH off the left margin to cut through the signatures/glue; then have it rebound as two books with spiral binding. The old organist's edition was divided at somewhere around Hymn #330, as I recall.   There's nothing in the organist's edition of the 1940 (unlike the Hymnal 1982) that isn't in the full music pew edition, so unless you're actually going to PLAY from it, it's not necessary to go through all that.   Cheers,   Bud       First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois wrote:   > Okay, folks. I've decided it's time I acquired "The Hymnal 1940." Am I > to assume there is an organists/keyboard edition I should look for? I > have very little familiarity with the Episcopal Church, but I seem to > recall the pew editions were words and melody line only. > > What do I want? Anybody got one they'd like to sell? > > Dennis Steckley > > "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: The Hymnal 1940 From: "Dennis" <dj5311@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:00:31 -0500 (GMT-05:00)   Dennis, We've got some copies that I saved for choir use when we cleaned house a few years ago. You can have one of the regular editions--everything's in =   it that's in the spiral bound. Come to the AGO Chapter concert on Sunday night or get me your snail mail address and I'll send you one.   Dennis Dieken St. Stephen's Episcopal Church Terre Haute IN     -----Original Message----- From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Sent: Sep 16, 2004 3:45 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: The Hymnal 1940   Okay, folks. I've decided it's time I acquired "The Hymnal 1940." Am I to assume there is an organists/keyboard edition I should look for? I have very little familiarity with the Episcopal Church, but I seem to recall the pew editions were words and melody line only.   What do I want? Anybody got one they'd like to sell?   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss         ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: RE: The Hymnal 1940 From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:07:03 -0500   The quickest way is to wander into the nearest Episcopal church and locate = a stack of 1940 hymnals in the choir room or in a closet in the sacristy or some such.   Barring that, new copies are available from Church Publishing:   http://www.churchpublishing.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Dproduct&ProductID=3D= 267   These are complete full music copies with a supplement from 196? in the = back although not the spiral bound organists edition.   It's still a fine book.   Michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:45 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: The Hymnal 1940     Okay, folks. I've decided it's time I acquired "The Hymnal 1940." Am I to assume there is an organists/keyboard edition I should look for? I have very little familiarity with the Episcopal Church, but I seem to recall the pew editions were words and melody line only.   What do I want? Anybody got one they'd like to sell?   Dennis Steckley        
(back) Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:40:11 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: <rgunther@cantv.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda     > Here in South FL we have the first sunny day in this week, but we are > awaiting the next hurricane - "JIM".   I thought it was Jean. They usually alternate men and women's names.   John Speller