PipeChat Digest #4775 - Saturday, September 18, 2004
 
> Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es>
Re: Organ Study
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
An Update
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Onward Christian soldiers
  by "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com>
MP3's added
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
Ivan and Others
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Organs and Organists Online Update
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
"Rockingham" in Mendelssohn 6 last mov't
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Update on Glenda
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post)
  by "bgsx" <bgsx52@sympatico.ca>
RE: HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post)
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: An Update
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
UK Copyright?
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:20:34 +0200   I wonder if I'm the only one who, when seeing news footage from the US of hurricane/tornado/storm devastation, wonders why buildings in areas where these phenomena occur almost every year are so flimsy?   Just curious.   Peter (who lives in a village with no recorded tornados, etc, but is still built mostly of 1 metre cubes of granite)  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Study From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 05:25:54 EDT   I once had a student who was 69 who played the spinet organ, but wanted to =   learn to play for church. She had problems with the pedals until one week = I assigned her to just learn the pedal parts of some hymns she wanted to = learn to play. A good background in piano is helpful to beginning organ students. = I have also taught people with developmental disabilities to play the piano = and organ. True, they never did learn any of the "great" works, but they = learned to play hymns. Motivation is the key to learning. Lee  
(back) Subject: An Update From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 05:28:22 EDT   Have any significant pipe organs been damaged during the storms? Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:01:03 -0600   Hello, Peter, et al:   Along the south and east coast of the United States, there are a zillion pine trees, and other kinds of trees, too, but there are very little 1-metre cubes of granite. . . . and then, you can take it from there. There is little or no rock in Florida.   Up in Pennsylvania, I have been told that they still build with granite, limestone, etc. . . . but they don't have an ocean beating their border every night.   Wood has tremendous strength when assembled properly. I installed a custom high fidelity system for a doctor in Houston, Texas. The studs were made of 2x8 (inches) pine and placed on 12-inch centers. This house was built by an architect who intended for it to withstand the stress of a torando.   Texas had one of the most ferocious hurricanes in 1900 where most of Galveston was blown away and more than 6000 people perished. This architect did not want this to happen to his house.   F. Richard Burt     ..      
(back) Subject: Re: Onward Christian soldiers From: "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:09:50 -0700 (PDT)     --- Andy Lawrence <andy@ablorgans.com> wrote:   > I'm not sure I quite understand what vietnam has to > do with anything. The > hymn is not encouraging physical war. It is > refering to the fact that the > Christian walk, according to the Bible, is a battle. > Spiritual warfare, > spiritual battles, swords, etc, are all very > biblical metaphors of the > Christian walk. > > Andy > >   I too did not exactly see the connection between "Onward Christian Soldiers" and the Vietnam Conflict... But, in fact, our church has not sung that hymn very often since the Viet Nam Conflict.... Presumably because the hymn has the phrase, "Marching As to War" in the first verse. Perhaps if that phrase had been in some other verse, people would have been more willing to sing that hymn...   Best wishes to all,     Morton Belcher fellow list member...   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   Morton wrote the following --- not John Foss...   > > At my church we have not sung "Onward, Christian > > > Soldiers" very often since the Vietnam > Conflict...Ladies and Gentlemen of > > the list: > > > Upon what occasions could this hymn be sung? And > do you think it is O. K. > > to start singing it again? > > > A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service > PO Box 111 > Burlington, VT 05402 > (802)578-3936 > Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: MP3's added From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:09:29 -0500   Greetings,   Recordings of John Foss playing in Recital during his recent Australian = tour have been added to the Organs and Organists Online downloads page. John plays "Incantation Pour un Jour Saint" by Langlais on the III/50 1930 = Hill, Norman & Beard organ at Scotch College, Assembly Hall, Hawthorn, and the Bach Chorale Prelude "Wir glauben all' an einen Gott" BWV 680 on = the III/37 1866 Hill & Son organ at St Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney.   Enjoy,   Tim Grenz Webmaster, Organs and Organists Online http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com      
(back) Subject: Ivan and Others From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:34:36 -0400   List,   We've been concerned about the hurricaines since my wife's brother lives = in Ft. Lauderdale. We spoke with his wife a couple days before things = were expected to get bad, and he was on his way to Home Depot to get a = few more sheets of wood with which to board up their windows. My = sister-in-law said that it felt creepy in the house with all the windows = boarded up.   We have been at the edge of the storm just north of Athens, Georgia. A = tornado touched down in Athens yesterday afternoon shortly before = school was to be out. My kids spent the better part of the school = afternoon sitting in the hallway at school facing the wall. School was = canceled for today.   A couple other tornadoes touched down about 20 miles from me. A large = tree fell onto a car killing some people. The husband of one of my = employees drives a truck and was about 30 miles from here enroute to = home and passed by an area of flattened houses. There were some rescue = efforts underway.   We were without power for a few hours last night - I can't complain. = This morning, I noticed that we had a fairly large hardwood tree down in = the front yard - literally tipped over. I attribute that to shallow = roots in soft soil. I took down many pines last year due to pine beetle = problems. I think removing the wind protection allowed some of these = root-compromised hardwoods to receive the full force of any wind.   We're overcast today with thunderstorms expected later today.   Hope everybody is safe, Keith
(back) Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:50:11 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Wood can indeed be enormously strong beacuse of the way the fibres interlock yet remain flexible. Even a split piece of timber has an awful lot of strength left in it.   I was impressed by some of the houses on Cape Cod when I stood out, (like a lunatic) in a huge storm and watched the elements do their worst. Those wooden houses creaked and rattled, but they withstood it.   I guess the winds were well over 100mph, but I dare not even contemplate what a category 5 hurricane must be like to endure, bearing in mind that as Ivan hits land, it has been "downgraded" to category 4. I watched the satellite tracking over the Carribean, and the wind speeds were peaking at 171mph!!   You certainly get WEATHER over there!   Regards,   Colin MItchell UK     --- "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> wrote: > > Up in Pennsylvania, I have been told that they still > build with > granite, limestone, etc. . . .   > Wood has tremendous strength when assembled > properly.       _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:09:17 -0400   On 9/17/04 5:20 AM, "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es> wrote:   > wonder if I'm the only one who, when seeing news footage > from the US of hurricane/tornado/storm devastation, wonders > why buildings in areas where these phenomena occur almost every > year are so flimsy?   Peter: Trust me, we Yanks wonder the same thing. I think the most common theory is that the kind of people who choose to dwell in such areas are often (by no means always) those who just can=B9t afford to build a very stou= t structure. There=B9s also the =B3media factor=B2: A photo of a building standin= g strong against the blasts is not very exciting; what sells is photos of houses of straw, trailer parks, etc., where the damage is much more visuall= y impressive. =20   Alan    
(back) Subject: Organs and Organists Online Update From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:57:40 +0300   I should like to thank Tim Grenz for keeping Organs and Organists Online = up to date during my Antipodean adventures. I have just one or two small comments to make - I hope you don't mind, Tim! Although the organ in St Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney, started out life as a III/37 in 1866, it has undergone several re-incarnations since this time. The most recent rebuild was by Letourneau in 1998, when as much of the original Hill organ as = could be restored to its original condition was included in the organ. It is now = a 4 manual tracker action instrument with 53 speaking stops, which include a flamboyant 32' Contra Trombone, a Double Open Wood, and an 8' Bombarde, in effect a Fanfare Trumpet, on the 4th manual, which were not in the = original scheme. A complete history of the organ with the specifications at each stage has been written by Mark Quarmby, and can be found at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~mquarmby/SAC2004.html along with the forthcoming recitals. Felix's happy smile can be seen on the site - make sure you don't miss his recital on Monday October 4th at 8.30 if you are = in Sydney.   Mark, who knows this instrument backwards, has kindly given me a CD from which I will add files shortly. It includes both the pre-rebuild H N & B organ and the newly restored instrument. I had actually intended to put Mark's files on first - he plays it much better than I do! Tim's = efficiency beat me on that one, but a couple will be on by next week.   The 1930 H N & B organ in Scotch College assembly hall, Melbourne, was originally in a Church in Sydney, but was transplanted and restored by the South Island Organ Company and Peter D. G. Jewkes earlier this year, the opening recital being given by Clive Driskill-Smith. I will have added photos of the console and case to the orgofftop photo files before the day is out! The case is new and the console is a restoration of another H N & = B console - I can't remember exactly where it comes from, but maybe someone = on the list will be able to tell us. I know that it was particularly = suitable, as it had virtually the right number of stops and it is relatively easy = for the organist to see over the music desk, to keep in touch with what is happening.   Tim credited me with the download of the pd file of Sussex Downs by Billy Mayerl. Although I uploaded it, the credit must go to Bruce Miles, who transcribed it from memory, as far as I understand, after I had said that = I was looking for it. You will be able to hear this in due course, as I included it in my programme on the large Compton organ in Malvern Town = Hall, Melbourne.   In addition to Mark Quarmby's superb playing I also have Dr June Nixon's permission to upload a couple of tracks from her CD "Grand Music for Great Occasions", which was the first record to be made on the 4 manual Lewis organ in St Paul's Cathedral, Melbourne after its restoration in 1990 by Harrison & Harrison. Again, highly recommended - the CD is available from the Cathedral Book Shop, maybe elsewhere? Perhaps this will whet your appetite.   John Foss      
(back) Subject: Re: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:31:59 EDT   In a message dated 9/17/2004 11:09:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > year are so flimsy? > >   any FLorida home built after Hurricane Andrew and built to THOSE standards =   faired VERY well............as did that round concrete home....   my sticks house did well because it gave a little and did not try to stand = up to momma nature........or i am just very lucky and blessed.   dale in florida  
(back) Subject: Re: > Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:06:02 -0700   Most of the OLD houses on Anna Maria Island FL are wooden, and built on stilts, usually with a "dog-trot" hall that runs from front to back, with rooms on either side. Old-timers know to leave the front and back doors to the dog-trot open (much like leaving the windows open during a tornado) to equalize the air-pressure ... some of those houses date from the teens and twenties, and are still standing.   OTOH, there isn't MUCH that's going to withstand a Force 4 or 5 hurricane, no matter WHAT the construction, including brick and reinforced concrete block buildings.   SOME of it IS due to sheer stupidity ... the coastline on Anna Maria comes and goes ... some enterprising builder decided to build expensive condos out onto the beach. The old-timers just sat back and chuckled. It only took a tropical STORM to wash THEM away.   My family's summer home (built 1949, concrete block) is protected by a massive seawall of boulders and concrete ... at times, it has been as much as a mile to the water's edge; at other times, the water has been right up to the seawall.   Cheers,   Bud   Keys4bach@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 9/17/2004 11:09:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, > acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes: > >> year are so flimsy? >> > > > any FLorida home built after Hurricane Andrew and built to THOSE > standards faired VERY well............as did that round concrete = home.... > > my sticks house did well because it gave a little and did not try to > stand up to momma nature........or i am just very lucky and blessed. > > dale in florida      
(back) Subject: "Rockingham" in Mendelssohn 6 last mov't From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:33:15 -0400   Dear Y'All,   Listening to a broadcast on public radio in Harrisburg PA of Felix Hell's senior recital at Curtis last April, I was intrigued by the announcer's comment that the quiet, closing movement of Mendelssohn sonata = 6 utilizes the melody of the "Rockingham" tune. I looked at it, and indeed, the first half of the tune does appear in ever-so-slightly altered manner i= n Mendelssohn's concluding movement.   Now, I'm really slow at the switch -- that's repeatable! ;-) -- but this was the first I've ever heard this statement. Am I just a slow learner living out here in the PA Dutch boonies of Pennsylvania, or is this new to others who read these lists?   Just curious. And also indebted to the announcer of Felix's Curtis recital recording.   Danke sch=F6n.=20   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:53:44 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Ivan and Glenda - An Update     > Hello, > > Wood can indeed be enormously strong beacuse of the > way the fibres interlock yet remain flexible. Even a > split piece of timber has an awful lot of strength > left in it. > > I was impressed by some of the houses on Cape Cod when > I stood out, (like a lunatic) in a huge storm and > watched the elements do their worst. Those wooden > houses creaked and rattled, but they withstood it.   This was my experience when caught on Nantucket in hurricane Bob in 1991 (where there is no possibility of evacuation because the ferries and airplanes cannot run). Our rickety old family house in Sconset village, built in around 1890, held up beautifully in the 120+ m.p.h. winds, but = some of the newer high end houses using modern construction did not make it through the storm. It was certainly exciting the way the house creaked = and rattled through the storm, and it was also great fun to go outside with = the rest of the village and walk around in it once the winds had died down to about 50 m.p.h. The only damage we suffered was the loss of two or three shingles from the garage roof. The electricity was off for several days, so we had to rush to eat all the ice cream before it melted. The nearest = I have got to a hurricane this year was coming back from Nantucket earlier this month when we drove through seven inches of rain in Ohio due to the remnants of hurricane Frances.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Update on Glenda From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:49 -0500   Glenda called me this afternoon from her Mother's house. Glenda's phone has gone out but her Mother's house still has phone service.   Glenda was able to drive into town, she actually lives out in the country and not in the town itself. The road itself is passible and she does have gas in her car. FEMA was there distributing water and ice - since Glenda and Rick's house has a pump they are without water since they are without electricity to run it. Beyond that things are about the same. She did say that the sun came out this morning and it is HOT and very humid.   Most of the call was spent with my filling her in on what I know of what is happening over in Pensacola, luckily, the Pensacola News-Journal web site is up and running and I had read some of the news from there at noontime. The local rad9io stations seem non-existant right now although she can get some news from Panama City.   She will keep in touch and appreciates all your prayers and good thoughts during this emergency.   We will miss her on IRC this evening but she said she would be there with us in spirit!   David  
(back) Subject: HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:50:12 EDT   HELP!   I am trying to find a contact to purchase additional copies of "The New = St. Paul's Cathedral Psalter" edited by John Scott. I bought a copy of this = last year and now I cannot find a link for this book. It was, I thought, = published by Canterbury Press, yet they show NOTHING about it. It is only a couple = of years old. I have now spent over a half hour trying to find it online and =   cannot.   Any assistance will be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.  
(back) Subject: Re: HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post) From: "bgsx" <bgsx52@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:09:17 -0400     > I am trying to find a contact to purchase additional copies of "The New = St. > Paul's Cathedral Psalter" edited by John Scott. I bought a copy of this = last > year and now I cannot find a link for this book. It was, I thought, = published > by Canterbury Press, yet they show NOTHING about it.   http://www.scm-canterburypress.co.uk/bookdetails.asp?ISBN=3D1853111872    
(back) Subject: RE: HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post) From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:16:57 -0500   My first suggestion was going to be St. Paul's shop as I've seen it there but they seem to have pruned their on-line inventory.   In any case, amazon.co.uk says they'll sell it as I imagine Blackwell's would among other on-line folx.   http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1853111880/qid=3D1095470038/sr=3D2= -1/re f=3Dsr_2_9_1/202-6465470-5378263   Michael   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of ScottFop@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:50 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org; piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu; anglican-music@list.stsams.org; Liturgicalmusic@yahoogroups.com Subject: HELP! NEW ST PAULS CATHEDRAL PSALTER (x post)     HELP!   I am trying to find a contact to purchase additional copies of "The New St. Paul's Cathedral Psalter" edited by John Scott. I bought a copy of = this last year and now I cannot find a link for this book. It was, I thought, published by Canterbury Press, yet they show NOTHING about it. It is only = a couple of years old. I have now spent over a half hour trying to find it online and cannot.   Any assistance will be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.  
(back) Subject: Re: An Update From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:12 +0800   Any (further) damage to the site of the Bok Bell Tower, Carillon, Bird (& S= quirrel) Sanctuary?   Their web site (http://www.boktower.org/) indicates that H. Charlie did a n= umber on the sanctuary and it would reopen to visitors with donations begin= ning 11 September.=20   As I recall, at something like 70' above sea level, the Bok estate is the h= ighest point in the state of Florida.   -- I'd also suggest that any pipe organ can be considered significant nowadays= ; though some may be more modest in scope or in a greater state of disrepai= r than others.   ----- Original Message ----- From: OMusic@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 05:28:22 EDT To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: An Update   > Have any significant pipe organs been damaged during the storms? Lee       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm   Da  
(back) Subject: UK Copyright? From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:40:02 EDT   Is there a database, similar to US copyrights, for music in the UK?     Victoria