PipeChat Digest #5253 - Monday, April 4, 2005
 
RE: Bagpipe grace notes
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: First CD of Restored Royal Albert Hall organ, London, Weir Plays,also
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
RE: [Theatreorgans-L] Four-manual WurliTzers (Chicago Theatre)
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
RE: AEolian-Skinner Opus 1062 Restored
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: Whom would you choose?
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
"Our Church Music" Recordings
  by "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com>
Re: "Our Church Music" Recordings
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Fwd: Diapason free sample
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Wedding fees
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: "Our Church Music" Recordings
  by "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net>
Free manuals and pedalboard
  by "Bill Lyon" <wflyon@usadatanet.net>
Re: Free manuals and pedalboard
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Free manuals and pedalboard
  by "Bill Lyon" <wflyon@usadatanet.net>
RE: Bagpipe  disgrace notes
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Bagpipe  disgrace notes
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
RE: Bagpipe  disgrace notes
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Bagpipe grace notes From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:38:35 +1200     >Are you trying to imitate a good or a bad piper?=20 If it is the later, it helps if the high note of "Amazing Grace" is = tuned rather flat :) =A0 Why?=A0There is an octave between A and A on the pipe chanter, exactly = as there is on the piano. Anyway, that tune was not written for the pipe = scale so will inevitably sound peculiar on the pipes.   >P.S. The same holds true for "Scotland the Brave".   No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have high = A on the chanter tuned flat you will then throw out the entire pipe scale and = the drones will not be in tune either. Perish the thought.   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: First CD of Restored Royal Albert Hall organ, London, Weir Plays,also in Belfast From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:12:24 +0100   Actually the Royal Albert Hall is Oval not Octagonal...   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of William T. Van Pelt Sent: 01 April 2005 19:18 To: PipeChat; PIPORG-L Subject: First CD of Restored Royal Albert Hall organ, London, Weir Plays,also in Belfast   Gillian Weir has a brand new CD on Priory of the newly-restored (by = Mander) organ at the Royal Albert Hall in London. The famous Willis organ of = 1871, rebuilt 1926-33 by Harrison & Harrison, was restored on a budget of 1.7 million Pounds Sterling as part of a 70-million-Pound restoration of the famous and cavernous, octagonal, hall itself. SNIP!   Bill      
(back) Subject: RE: [Theatreorgans-L] Four-manual WurliTzers (Chicago Theatre) From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:14:18 +0100   Isn't this laughable- "we can do everything the Wurlitzer does with a = Roland - amplification is everything!" ? How pathetic!   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = jch Sent: 01 April 2005 21:47 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: [Theatreorgans-L] Four-manual WurliTzers (Chicago Theatre)   I was asked for the latest news on the Chicago Theatre Wurlitzer and sadly I have the following sad news to report:   Featured on the :"Morning Addition Report" on WBKB-TV (The Balaban and = Katz=20 TV Station) and a front page story in the Chicago Daily News "The Chicago Theatre has decided to = dispose=20 of the Wurlitzer organ in the theatre. After years of controversy over who is better qualified to care =   for the ancient instrument, and the costly repairs and rebuilding of the organ after years of neglect, the=20 theatre decided in would be more practical to replace the historic instrument. The decision was based=20 partially on the advice of the theatre's music director, the imminent Hernando de Cabeza Muerta who stated, "We = can=20 do everything the organ does with our Roland, and after all, amplification is everything." The theatre is=20 currently considering options for the disposal or the instrument and is strongly considering an EBAY auction in the = near=20 future.   I will keep you posted on updates as the occur.   Jon=20     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: RE: AEolian-Skinner Opus 1062 Restored From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:19:11 +0100   I sincerely HOPE it is!   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Arie Vandenberg Sent: 02 April 2005 00:40 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: AEolian-Skinner Opus 1062 Restored   Hi,   Is this an April fool's kind of deal?   Arie     At 05:33 PM 2005-04-01, you wrote: >The organ in Morris Park United Methodist Church in Shelbyrne, Indiana, = is >the subject of a front page article in the Cairne County Daily = Sentinel. The >article is reproduced below, followed by the stoplist, cut-and-pasted = from=20 >the >church's website. > >Historic Pipe Organ Gets New Lease on Life > > 1945 was a banner year for church organs, because through World = War II, >the lead used for organ pipes was needed for ammunition, and America = went >organ-less. So when Morris Park United Methodist on State Street = ordered=20 >their >Aeolian-Sknner organ it was a sure sign that happy days had returned. = Like=20 >all >machines, the organ was assigned a serial number, 1062, but an organ is =   >more than >a machine, it's a work of art. > After sixty years of song and sound, the thousands of leather "pouches" >in the organ were showing signs of wear, so church member and Shelbyrn Junior >High School shop teacher Jerry Bootle and his 9-year-old son Kylie undertook >the restoration of the organ as a gift to the church. Elsie Crimp,=20 >organist of >the church since the organ was installed, recruited her nephew Bob = Minkes, an >organ enthusiast, to be the church's advisor on all things pipe organ. > >Modern all the way > > Minkes, who has read practically every English-language book about >organs, took the modern approach, so the organ is now entirely = electric,=20 >without a >shred of the old leather left. The new console (the "cockpit" where the >organist sits and plays the many thousands of pipes) takes up less room =   >than the old >one, having only two keyboards instead of the original four. The organ still >has it's row of foot-keys for the bass pipes. > "Organ styles have changed a lot since 1945, and we know much more = now >than we did then," explained Bootle, as he tested a new set of rumbling = 32' >Bombarde notes that roared out of the speaker cabinets on the walls. = "We=20 >had to >replace most of the pipes to get this organ up-to-date." > Englishman G. Donald Harrison, who designed the organ's many stops = in >1945, was thought to be the most up-to-date organ man of his day. But = his=20 >organs >were very soft by today's standards, and the 92 "ranks" or rows of = pipes were >never loud enough, despite Bootle's best efforts to carve open the = holes in >the bottoms to get more wind in. > So out with the old, and in with the new, and new pipes were = ordered=20 > from >Europe. Unlike the old pipes, which had to be "finished" when they were = set >up in the church, organ pipes are now pre-voiced, and can be set in = place and >tuned without any further adjustments to their tone. "The rebuilt organ = is >particularly attuned to the big symphonic literature that's so popular these >days," says Minkes. "I'm not an organist myself, but if I could read=20 >music, this is >the type of organ I'd want to play every day." > >One hitch, but a happy ending > > Because of the falling dollar, and the fact that this was the = first=20 > organ >restoration for everybody involved, nobody knew what the project would really >cost -- or that the European pipes would be held hostage for customs duties. >The $187,000.00 shortfall was made up through bake sales and a lot of >volunteer labor from the school kids, and Aeolian-Skinner number 1062 = is=20 >ready to go. > >Stoplist from the church website: > >GREAT (new pipes, 61 notes C-C): > >8' Spitzflote >8' Quintaten >4' Oktav >2' Oktav >1-1/3' Quinte >V Mixtur >IV Scharff >III Cymbel >8' Krummhorn >4' Rohrschalmei > >SWELL (new except where noted): > >8' Gedeckt >4' Nachthorn >2' Prinzipal >1' Sifflote >II Terzian >IV Acuta >16' Rankett >8' Vox Humana (Skinner, retongued) >4' Regal > >PEDAL > >32' Open Wood Diapason (digital) >32' Violone (digital) >32' Subbass (digital) >32' Lieblich Gedeckt (digital) >16' Gedeckt (Swell extension) >8' Quintaten (Great) >4' Quintaten (Great) >V Mixture >32' Contre Bombarde (digital) >32' Kontraposaune (digital) >32' Double Trombone (digital) >16' Rankett (Swell) >4' Regal (Swell) > >. > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263=20       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" 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(back) Subject: Re: Whom would you choose? From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:43:44 -0400   I did! I did! I did! Nick Russotto   On Apr 3, 2005 7:56 PM, Richard Schneider <arpschneider@starband.net>=20 wrote:=20 >=20 > I noticed that no one at all has mentioned the name of Frederick Hohman? >=20 > Any particular reason why not? He's "da man" when it comes to performing > transcriptions. . . >=20 > Faithfully, >=20 > Richard Schneider >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: "Our Church Music" Recordings From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:47:22 -0400   Hi Chatters,   I wasn't sure how to title this question, but have any of you been = involved in creation of a music CD your church made as a fundraising and/or evangelism tool? At my church it's in the earliest stages of discussion, = and I'm already uncertain what stance I want to take with respect to compensation.   As some of you know from my previous posts, the church is small and pays just about the minimum you'd find in this area for an organist with any qualifications or training. I came there as an employee with a contract, = and six months later decided to become a member. (As such, I'm now involved in =   several non-music related volunteer tasks, as is pretty much normal and expected.) The only additional, non-contract music task in my nine months has been to fill in as keyboardist for the praise team one Sunday. No compensation was offered, nor did I ask for any. I figured it was balanced =   out by the annual outdoor service, which I'm asked to attend and = compensated for but don't play for.   At any rate, I'd welcome the benefit of others' experience and advice. My inclination is to (a) set some paramaters time-wise for what I'm willing = to put in on the project and (b) ask for monetary compensation, even if it's = a modest amount. To do otherwise seems like I'd be sending a message that = the contract doesn't mean anything.   Thanks,   EmilyA.      
(back) Subject: Re: "Our Church Music" Recordings From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:51:21 -0400   Not to minimize your concerns about compensation, but my real concern in an endeavor like this would be tracking down and paying for the mechanical licenses (copyright) for every piece you plan to record on this CD. The normal assumptions of your rights to perform a choral anthem in worship might change considerably when it comes to recording. And making one archival recording of some service or concert is quite a different thing than recording something on a CD with the intent to sell it. Even if you hire a recording company and they tell you they "take care of it" or "that only applies to situations where you only make more than (X) CD's", they are often not telling you the whole legal story. And you might stand to put yourself and/or the church in a position of liability in terms of copyright violation.   Chuck Peery St. Louis On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Emily Adams wrote:   > Hi Chatters, > > I wasn't sure how to title this question, but have any of you been > involved in creation of a music CD your church made as a fundraising > and/or evangelism tool? At my church it's in the earliest stages of > discussion, and I'm already uncertain what stance I want to take with > respect to compensation. > > As some of you know from my previous posts, the church is small and > pays just about the minimum you'd find in this area for an organist > with any qualifications or training. I came there as an employee with > a contract, and six months later decided to become a member. (As such, > I'm now involved in several non-music related volunteer tasks, as is > pretty much normal and expected.) The only additional, non-contract > music task in my nine months has been to fill in as keyboardist for > the praise team one Sunday. No compensation was offered, nor did I ask > for any. I figured it was balanced out by the annual outdoor service, > which I'm asked to attend and compensated for but don't play for. > > At any rate, I'd welcome the benefit of others' experience and advice. > My inclination is to (a) set some paramaters time-wise for what I'm > willing to put in on the project and (b) ask for monetary > compensation, even if it's a modest amount. To do otherwise seems like > I'd be sending a message that the contract doesn't mean anything. > > Thanks, > > EmilyA. > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Diapason free sample From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:01:38 -0500   > >Request a free sample copy of the April 2005 issue of The Diapason. >Cover: Mander Organs, London, England; West Parish Church of Barnstable, >West Barnstable, Massachusetts. >Features: "American Institute of Organbuilders Thirty-first Annual >Convention," by Sebastian M. Gluck. "John E. Sperling, Tonal Director >Emeritus, Wicks Organ Company," by Brent Johnson. "In Memoriam Robert >Baker," by Thomas Murray. "Organ Historical Society Convention, Buffalo, = New >York," by Ronald E. Dean. "An Organ Odyssey: One Church's Story," by = Barbara >Owen. >News, appointments, reviews, recital programs, new organs, calendar, >classified ads. >Send your request to editor Jerome Butera jbutera@sgcmail.com (ph >847/391-1045), www.TheDiapason.com <http://www.thediapason.com/>     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding fees From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:13:32 EDT   Walter wrote:   Since another spring is here, I thought I'd ask what folks are charging for weddings this year. Do you charge extra in the case of the bride/bride's mother who submits a huge list of obscure musical selections, with explicit demands as to instrumentation, tempo, articulation, and registration? **************************************************************   Here's my wedding policy: (all fees are in US$)   Ceremony only with Liturgy of the Word, no soloist: 200.00 With Soloist: 250.00 Nuptial Mass, with staff soloist: 250.00 (soloist fee separate) With guest soloist, and/or with choir anthem: 300.00 and up. (plus section =   leader fees) **We generally provide a cantor for psalms/canticles without charge, as we =   have many talented volunteers who can chant; for parishioners, often times = a small chant schola will volunteer to lead the chant. Guest soloists, = unless they know our rarified liturgical tradition intimately, do not function as = cantors at St. John's.**   In addition to playing the wedding, I will do a consultation, in person, = at the organ. I try to honor requests for voluntaries, though I have found = mostly I have to play through pieces for couples to choose, as they often have no =   idea what they want until they hear it.   I will meet ONLY with the bride- and groom-to-be, and I expect BOTH = parties to be present at the consultation. I do not allow mothers, fathers, = cousins, best friends, family pets or city counselmen or ANYONE else at = consultations. I adopted this policy some years ago when I was doing a consultation with a couple with the mother of the bride present. She dominated the = proceedings, not letting her daughter get a word in edgewise and the bride was visibly = irritated and embarassed. Finally, I said, very politely, "Madam, you have, = presumably, already had your wedding. Why don't you have a seat over there and let = your daughter have hers". After she left in a huff, the bride gave me a big = hug, and proceeded to tell me exactly what SHE wanted!   My policy is to NOT attend wedding rehearsals. I explain, if necessary, = that there is no reason to have music at a wedding rehearsal UNLESS the bride = is going to wear the very shoes and the very dress she's going to wear at the =   wedding! Otherwise, "walking" to the music is not going to help her. If = pressed, I will attend a wedding rehearsal for 100.00 per hour or any fraction = thereof. That usually convinces brides to leave me alone!   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston   Under exceptional circumstances, I will permit a guest organist to play = part of the service if they are known to me. I expect my full fee.      
(back) Subject: Re: "Our Church Music" Recordings From: "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:41:49 -0400   On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 06:47:22AM -0400, Emily Adams wrote: > Hi Chatters, > > I wasn't sure how to title this question, but have any of you been > involved in creation of a music CD your church made as a fundraising > and/or evangelism tool? At my church it's in the earliest stages of > discussion, and I'm already uncertain what stance I want to take with > respect to compensation. >   What would a Union musician cost them?   Is this a studio recording or a recording of a Sunday service?   Studio work is HARD. No one ever believes me until they're on the fifth take, but trust me, it's HARD to work under that kind of microscope.   If they're taking you into a studio, or setting up a remote for a special recording sessions on your instrument, ask for Union scale. By the end of the session, you'll have wished you asked for double that.   If they're instead just rolling tape (or more likely hard drive these days) at your normal service, ask to be paid double for the recorded services.   You might choose to donote the money they pay you back in the offering. With my present financial situation, I certainly would, but five years ago when Organist was a larger chunk of my monthly pie, I most certainly would NOT.   IMO, YMMV, yadayadayada and many other acronyms I can't think of.    
(back) Subject: Free manuals and pedalboard From: "Bill Lyon" <wflyon@usadatanet.net> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:26:18 -0400   If anyone is building a MIDI organ I have two Baldwin manuals and a 32 = note pedal board for the taking. The only charges will be for shipping if pick up is not possible. I live near Syracuse, NY.   Bill    
(back) Subject: Re: Free manuals and pedalboard From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:25:48 -0700   >If anyone is building a MIDI organ I have two Baldwin manuals and a 32 = note >pedal board for the taking. The only charges will be for shipping if = pick >up is not possible. I live near Syracuse, NY. > >Bill > > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>   I 'll be with a truck near Amsterdam on Thursday. Not close enough I = guess?   John V --  
(back) Subject: Re: Free manuals and pedalboard From: "Bill Lyon" <wflyon@usadatanet.net> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:47:12 -0400   With the Thruway and route 81 it would be an easy trip. I live almost at = the 81 exit.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Free manuals and pedalboard     > >If anyone is building a MIDI organ I have two Baldwin manuals and a 32 note > >pedal board for the taking. The only charges will be for shipping if pick > >up is not possible. I live near Syracuse, NY. > > > >Bill > > > > > >****************************************************************** > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > I 'll be with a truck near Amsterdam on Thursday. Not close enough I guess? > > John V > -- > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/05 > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Bagpipe disgrace notes From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:43:55 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   EVERYTHING sounds peculiar on the pipes!   What sort of person takes up such an obscene instrument, then feeds it with honey, rubs its' tummy, dresses it, puts on a skirt and walks around without the slightest shame?   Huh?   Come on! Tell!   The fact that this ridiculous apology for a musical instrument sounds like a new born child in distress, makes me wonder if pipe-players are actually sane.   My other pet hate (apart from Howells) is that exotically bad tune to "Amazing Grace."   Grace notes, say you?   Disgrace notes, say I!   I can well understand why Moffat left Scotland for more civilised parts of Europe.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Bagpipe disgrace notes From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:49:52 -0400     Colin,   You betray your English roots. Don't ya know that God made the Scots just =   a wee bit better? Once you put on Scottish ears, Amazing Grace to the pipes will sound just wunnerful.   Arie         At 10:43 AM 2005-04-04, you wrote: >Hello, > >EVERYTHING sounds peculiar on the pipes! > >What sort of person takes up such an obscene >instrument, then feeds it with honey, rubs its' tummy, >dresses it, puts on a skirt and walks around without >the slightest shame? > >Huh? > >Come on! Tell! > >The fact that this ridiculous apology for a musical >instrument sounds like a new born child in distress, >makes me wonder if pipe-players are actually sane. > >My other pet hate (apart from Howells) is that >exotically bad tune to "Amazing Grace." > >Grace notes, say you? > >Disgrace notes, say I! > >I can well understand why Moffat left Scotland for >more civilised parts of Europe. > >Regards, > >Colin Mitchell UK > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263      
(back) Subject: RE: Bagpipe disgrace notes From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:13:14 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Quite wrong Arie!   To my eternal shame, I am of Scots descent...I mean...it doesn't come more Scots than Colin Mitchell.   I was, apparently, named after "Mad Mitch", the former Colonel in Chief of, I think, the old Southern & Argyll Regiment.   I often think I should have been born English, until I look around, and rue the fact that I'm not Dutch!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       --- Arie Vandenberg <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> wrote: > > Colin, > > You betray your English roots. Don't ya know that > God made the Scots just > a wee bit better? > Once you put on Scottish ears, Amazing Grace to the > pipes will sound just > wunnerful.       __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest