PipeChat Digest #5262 - Wednesday, April 6, 2005
 
transposing
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
hymn singing in dwindling congregations
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
Re: The Church and Sacred Music
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Re: The Church and Sacred Music
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch
  by "Chris Buckley" <chrisbuckley@earthlink.net>
Re: hymn singing in dwindling congregations
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Free manuals and pedalboard
  by "Chris Buckley" <chrisbuckley@earthlink.net>
Cantors and Organs
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch
  by "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com>
RE: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Cantors and Organs
  by "Thomas Dressler" <rgtd@ptdprolog.net>
Concert announcement:  Alan Morrison, Little Rock AR
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
communion medication (was Catholic hymns)
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Re: Wedding Fees and Accompanists misunderstood
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!
  by "tom hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
 

(back) Subject: transposing From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:02:17 -0700   You out there with the time and training, I commend you on your ability to easily transpose. Me, I'm hopeless unless it's a simple folk-style piece = and I don't have to play the melody, too. Personally, at this point, I don't have the time nor money to learn to transpose at sight, and that will = remain a gap in my training that I feel in no way makes me totally useless. I've only been asked to transpose once or twice in my 20+ years and I managed = OK by writing out a road-map in the right key on short notice.     All the more reason to include a transposer in every instrument. A nationally known organist (a former organ scholar at St. Thomas NYC) = played at my church some time ago and was doing "Jerusalem" by Parry and had been asked to use the real accompaniment vs. the paired down one in the 1982 Hymnal. At the last minute he realized that the congregation would be singing high F or G, and since the (pipe) organ included a transposer, the problem was easily solved. I have all the equipment (up/down pistons) for the C/A level, transposer, crescendo setting, and the LCD display screen mounted under my keyboard. It swings out just like like the buttons on a theatre organ. I did this because I did not want my 1961 vintage Skinner console to look too busy.     I DID pass the open score playing and hymn transposing portions of my proficiency test as a keyboard major in college, but I could not do the transposing now. Since playing open score has been a part of weekly life = as a church musician I can do that well enough.     In my opinion, transposing basic hymn-style compositions up or down a semitone or two is rightly considered a tool that a degreed musician = should have. On the other hand, if each of us can't do it anymore, so be it. I get by just fine thank you very much.     I have most "normal" wedding solos in most expected keys, and if someone wants to sing something else, they have always provided me with the music before hand. FAX machines are great for that.     Randy :-)     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Randy Terry   Music Minister   The Episcopal Church of St. Peter   Redwood City, California   _____   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Russ Greene Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:05 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Wedding fees and accompanists     Whatever the relative difficulties of transposing written music for the accompaniment or the melody line, surely it is vastly more important that the soloist have the music in his/her key, since the voice is much more limited in range than the keyboard. You can't ask a bass to sing a tenor arrangement just because that's what you have on hand.   Russ Greene         On Apr 4, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Justinhartz@aol.com wrote:   Transposing a full accompaniment written on two or three staves and in two clefs is much more demanding than transposing one line of melody notes which are sung or played one at a time. (As a former brass player, I can attest to this).    
(back) Subject: hymn singing in dwindling congregations From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:41:41 -0500   >If you think that's bad, picture this scene from a church where I=20 >substituted: a dwindling, dying Methodist congregation of about 40 souls=20 >sparsely sprinkled throughout a sanctuary that would easily accommodate   >350-400. A 50-year-old, ill-maintained, wheezing Wicks that wouldn't have=20 >been adequate for the space even in its prime. And a pastor with a REEALLY=20 >BAD singing voice croaking loudly off-key right into her mike through every=20 >hymn.   >I'm getting queasy all over again just thinking about it.   And much the same for my dying Methodist congregation: about 140 mostly old souls who either don't want to sing, or only want to sing syncopated hymn tunes from about 1900. The historic church seats 1000, and the 1979 3/32 Reuter squeaks the hymns out as best as is possible in attempt to lead the singing. But too many are content to just listen, or only add some sort of apathetic singing. Didn't the Methodists used to be a "singing" denomination?   How do you encourage a shrinking congregation to sing?   Daniel Hancock Springfield, Missouri=20  
(back) Subject: Re: The Church and Sacred Music From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:23:31 -0400   Ron wrote: >We Need another Pope Like PIUS X. Here's an interesting sidelight >on him. He was not Italian, He was born in Poland. His last >name was Krawitz and when the family moved from Poland to >Italy they changed their name to Sardo. Krawitz and Sardo tranlate >to English( Taylor ) He was born Josep Melchior Krawitz. So, >John Paul II was the second Polish Pope of the 20th Century 75 years >apart. Franz Joseph The Hungarian Emperor tried to hide his >Polishness by have records destroyed, but he indeed missed one. >There's a whole story behind this, I will go into if anybody is = interested. >It would make fascinating reading. PIUS X was Polish.   Why does the Vatican website list Pope Pius X's name as Giuseppe Sarto?   Cole Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005      
(back) Subject: Re: The Church and Sacred Music From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:58 EDT   Hi Cole:   Giuseppe Sarto: Ok, from memory I put a d instead of a t. That still does not make Pius X Italian. He was born Josep Melchior Krawiz. His story is found in a book by Malachi Martin, called "The Keys of this Blood" pp535-536 It's still available and a fascinating read. You'll get a real feel for Poland especially and the Vatican and John Paul II in particular. That is where my e-mail reference comes from. Joseph Taylor was not Italian.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: RE: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch From: "Chris Buckley" <chrisbuckley@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:30:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00)   Hi all,   As a piper of eight years and an organist of ten, I've had some experi= ences playing for St. Patrick's festivals, as well as a few Kirkin' o' the = Tartans in the Episcopal church. I've done these services both from the pi= pes and from the organ, and it's an interesting problem to tune the things.= I keep a spare chanter, tuned to equal temperment in concert B-flat, for = playing with other instruments like the organ. Interestingly enough, I had= the opportunity to play along with a small Brombaugh instrument in Salem, = Oregon which was tuned to mean-tone. I actually found that my traditionall= y-tuned chanter actually blended better with that organ than my "concert" c= hanter. One thing, on the organ side of things, that's good to remember is= that there's usually a great temptation to register the instrument heavy o= n the reed-tone side of things, ostensibly to blend with the pipes (also to= compete with the volume, on moderate-sized instruments), but this is gener= ally a bad idea. Since the timbres of the organ reeds are closer to the pi= pes than, say, the diapason series, the intonation problems which invariabl= y arise from "pipes-on-pipes" playing show themselves MUCH more plainly... = it's a dangerous game to play with a piper, but with practice, it's a beaut= iful sound. Here in Oregon, a CD was recorded on a magnificent Jurgend Ahr= end (sp?) instrument of four manuals, along with the Eugene Highlanders Pip= e Band. IT's called "Pipes on Pipes" and is a glorious album... Any Scott= ish organ enthusiasts would really appreciate it.   Peace,   Chris   -----Original Message----- From: TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Apr 5, 2005 2:21 PM To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: RE: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch     > Highland pipes are in a different temperament than equal; in fact, I= =20 believe they are tuned modally.   They have their own tuning, yes indeed.   > In bagpipe competitions, judges listen for those (seemingly) dissonant= =20 notes. Some pipe bands actually use creative bits of tape, I'm told, to bring=20 their pipes closer to what Americans feel is "in tune," but not for genuine= =20 Highland music.   Yes, and no.   Pipers may add sellotape to the chanter for the reason you give, but in less-good bands chanters are sometimes of mixed origin and age. Being made of wood, the note holes in chanters are always hand-tuned and thus chanters of different makes can be slightly out-of-tune to each on different notes. Plastic chanters, made in a batch, avoid this problem, but at the expense o= f quality of tone.=20   I well remember in competitive band playing back in the 1950s I once had a bit of sellotape on F, G and high A, to make sure my chanter was exactly in tune. On another occasion I had a bit of sellotape only on the D. You see, it depends on the reeds as well - for some reason a different will seem to favour certain notes, i.e. alter the pitch of them, even though the base (deliberate spelling) A might remain the same.=20   There is no problem for solo piping, of course, as the chanter is tuned to itself, i.e. compatibly with the drones, and so it doesn't matter in the slightest what actual frequency the A is. In a band, where the chanters are of mixed origin and age, you just have to do your best. Lawrie chanters, fo= r example, won't mix well with those by Hardie, and Sinclair is slightly different from Starck, and Robertson is different from Henderson. And if sonmeone gets a Pakistani chanter, you're plain asking for trouble.   If you use a chanter made in 1935, say, with a band where everyone else is using chanters made in the 1990s, you'll have problems as the older chanter will be slightly lower in pitch. OK, so you push the chanter reed in a little, sharpening it, to bring the A into line with the others, but that will then throw out the rest of the scale, especially at the top end, so you'll needs bits of sellotape to flatten those notes slightly. And so it goes on.   Ross     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: hymn singing in dwindling congregations From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:35:32 EDT   In a message dated 4/6/05 10:46:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dhancock@brpae.com writes:   > How do you encourage a shrinking congregation to sing?   one technique i use occasionally is to simply drop out during one of the stanzas, depending on the text. i'll play the first phrase on maybe 8 & 4 = swell flutes, no pedal, and close the shutters until it's faded to inaudibility. = the first few times, i warned the choir so they would continue singing. now, they know that they're in charge of supporting the congregation so they = don't hesitate to pick up the slack. one of my favorite hymns to do this on is = "how can i keep from singing?" (Endless Song), which congregations love to sing =   unaccompanied.   another thing we do at westminster congregational is, whenever an african-american spiritual is scheduled, the choir rehearses it and it is = sung unaccompanied in the service. most of the ones in our hymnal (new = century) seem to sound better unaccompanied (to me, the organ sounds like it's trying to = make it high-church).   scot in spokane  
(back) Subject: Re: Free manuals and pedalboard From: "Chris Buckley" <chrisbuckley@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:35:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00)   Bill,   I'm Chris Buckley, a hobbyist organ builder in Oregon. Do you have = pics of the manuals and pedalboard? What's the shipping cost to Oregon? = The ZIP code is 97392. Let me know.   -----Original Message----- From: Bill Lyon <wflyon@usadatanet.net> Sent: Apr 4, 2005 6:26 AM To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Free manuals and pedalboard   If anyone is building a MIDI organ I have two Baldwin manuals and a 32 = note pedal board for the taking. The only charges will be for shipping if pick up is not possible. I live near Syracuse, NY.   Bill     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Cantors and Organs From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:31:26 EDT   Jon Kroepel said: As for the cantor singing into the microphone and performing for the congregation, this act doesn't do anything but discourage good congregational singing. Those of us in litugical churches can use these cantors for responsorial psalms, but probably should not use them for = hymns. The organist can lead a congreation better(HOPEFULLY!).     This is my point exactly. Why do the cantors feel that they have to = warble and bellow into the microphone to lead the singing when it is the = ORGANIST'S job to do so? A singer belting out some tune into a mic only makes the congregation spectators and not worship partcipants. A song leader waving = their arms like a conductor (as they do in most evangelical churches), while I find = it humorous and quite often obnoxious, at least makes the congregation feel = like they are part of the choir and in some twisted cheerleader way does get = them to at least start singing. When is the last time that you heard dull singing = at your local Baptist church? (IF they still use piano and organ) It might = be like old time revival hour, but they're all singing.   When a cantor is up front performing, the congregation just stands there = (or sits there) and listens. Yet, this is the norm in many RC churches and = that's why I'm confused. They want participation but the method that is used doesn't foster it.   I wholeheartedly agree that a cantor should be singing Psalm verses when = no choir is present.   Are there some RC churches who don't use cantors? What is the outcome? I'm just curious...     Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:55:30 -0400   A few years ago I wanted some Bag-Pipe music so I went out and purchased an album entitled something like "The Scottish Bag-Pipes". The pipes were great but all through the album there was this obnoxious = hammond organ accompaniment with this sickening tremolo always on. I played it = once and put it away for good. Is it common to accompany pipes with an electronic organ?   Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com    
(back) Subject: RE: Bagpipes: not equal temperament, no matter what pitch From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:13:36 +1200   > A few years ago I wanted some Bag-Pipe music so I went out and purchased an album entitled something like "The Scottish Bag-Pipes". The pipes were great but all through the album there was this obnoxious = hammond organ accompaniment with this sickening tremolo always on. I played it = once and put it away for good. Is it common to accompany pipes with an electronic organ?   No. And it makes me cringe and feel like committing murder if I ever hear it, even on recordings. It's one of the great disgusting sounds of all = time. It'd be like ladling a mixture of tomato and Worcestershire Sauce on fresh salmon - disgusting.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Cantors and Organs From: "Thomas Dressler" <rgtd@ptdprolog.net> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:42:45 -0400   We don't use SONG LEADERS at my RC Church. That is one area where I will not budge. I do use cantors for the psalms when the choir is not there, and they (me, sometimes) sing from the back in the choir loft.   I will not have song leaders waving their arms up front. It's a ridiculous spectacle of wanna-be conducting, and usually they have no idea how to do it.   What's the result? Amazingly good congregational singing for a Catholic church. Sometimes you'd think you're in a Lutheran church. (Other times, well. . .but it's still better than most.) When visitors (usually musicians) from other RC Churches come and ask me my secret, I tell them it's because of having no song leaders and strong leadership from the organ. They usually come up with 50 reasons that's not true and go back to their non-participatory churches. I stay in mine and listen to the congregation sing. :)   Thomas Dressler   http://www.thomasdressler.com       ----- Original Message ----- From: <RMB10@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: Cantors and Organs > > Are there some RC churches who don't use cantors? What is the outcome? > I'm just curious... > > > Monty Bennett >    
(back) Subject: Concert announcement: Alan Morrison, Little Rock AR From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:34:08 -0500   Greetings, List!   Anyone within range is cordially invited to join us at First Presbyterian Church in downtown Little Rock this Friday April 8 at 7:30 PM.   Mr. Alan Morrison will be our guest to play the second annual Robert Young =   Ellis Memorial Recital. Works included on the program by Bach, Durufle, Franck, Widor, Vierne, Creston, Slover, Callahan, and Langlais. The concert is free and open to the public, and a reception will follow.   The organ at First Pres is a 3m/61rk instrument, recently completed by Nichols & Simpson Inc. Stoplist and info at <http://www.nicholsandsimpson.com/first1.htm>. Please join us if you are = able!   Cheers --   Tim Bovard Little Rock          
(back) Subject: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:00:21 -0400   Hello all,=20 Perhaps you can help me. I am looking to convert an mp3 to MIDI and then=20 into sheet music. Can this be done on Sibelius or Finale? If so, How?!? Thanks in advance, Nick   --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:10:17 -0700   due to the complexity of such an operation, the necessary software is yet =   to be perfected. There are a couple of programs that sort of make a stab at it, but...   organ music is particularly difficult, since there are pipes playing in many different octaves - lots of errors result :-(   Believe me, I've tried this out from time to time, and you're much better =   off just buying the music!   Cheers,   Jonathan   On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:00:21 -0400, N. Russotto <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:   > Hello all, > Perhaps you can help me. I am looking to convert an mp3 to MIDI and then > into sheet music. Can this be done on Sibelius or Finale? If so, How?!? > Thanks in advance, > Nick >       -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/  
(back) Subject: Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:17:40 -0400   To the list, Would someone enlighten me as to what Sibelius and Finale do. Are = they just MP-3 venues or is this a method of writing music right from = the organ keyboard through midi? Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: N. Russotto=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!     Hello all,=20 Perhaps you can help me. I am looking to convert an mp3 to MIDI and = then into sheet music. Can this be done on Sibelius or Finale? If so, = How?!?   Thanks in advance,   Nick   --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/
(back) Subject: Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:10:28 +0800   Paul,   Finale and Sibelius are both high-end music notation software. Both claim n= early equal shares in the music publishing world =85 more than likely any s= heet or bound music you=92ve bought in the past few years has been produced= with one of these products.   Both products can create notation from MIDI input, from scanner input using= plug-in software (included), or by computer keyboard and mouse entry.   The price of the software is fairly steep, but both have lower-cost, featur= e-poor editions. However, there are deep academic/theological discounts on = the =93big box=94 and the extra features are well worth it.   As for mp3=92s, Sibelius will write them directly using the included Native= Instruments Kontact Player.   See: http://www.sibelius.com and http://www.finalemusic.com for more inform= ation from the manufacturers.   Finale has a free product called notepad, but it is strictly a mouse entry = option, and output is only through the computer=92s sound system. Still, it= is a way to become familiar with the Finale product.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:17:40 -0400   >=20 > To the list, > Would someone enlighten me as to what Sibelius and Finale do.=20 > Are they just MP-3 venues or is this a method of writing music=20 > right from the organ keyboard through midi? > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: N. Russotto > To: PipeChat > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:00 PM > Subject: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! >=20 >=20 > Hello all, > Perhaps you can help me. I am looking to convert an mp3 to MIDI=20 > and then into sheet music. Can this be done on Sibelius or Finale?=20 > If so, How?!? >=20 > Thanks in advance, >=20 > Nick >=20 > -- > Nicholas F. Russotto > Somers, Connecticut > Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: communion medication (was Catholic hymns) From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:42:38 -0500   I've written some meditations over the years, but I'm intrigued by the possibility of a communion medication and wonder if there are other candidates for this genre besides the one listed below.   Thanks for the great typo,   Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: David Baker <dgb137@mac.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Catholic hymns     > I don't know why, but it always astounds me that catholics seem to love > How Great Thou Art. I simply can't fathom how it fits in a liturgical > service. Maybe as a communion medication, OK, but <snip>    
(back) Subject: Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:14:38 -0400   If the music in the Mp3 is something that is available on the Classical Music Archives, I find the MIDI file for the music and then load it into NoteWorthy Composer (a downloadable program for U$40.00). After it's in NWC, I edit it to my heart's content and print it out. I did this with the =   so-call Bach "Gigue" Fugue. I couldn't find my Widor-Schweitzer edition of =   it and needed the score. It worked quite well for me, but I know that some =   of the MIDIs from Classical Music Archives aren't as good as others.   MIDI files contain no musical data. They are instructions for a MIDI = device to perform music in real time. It's like a digital to analog software device(!?). You also can play on a MIDI device and have NWC record it on a =   staff. You can try NoteWorthy Composer for free.   Cole Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA   Nick wrote:   >Hello all, >Perhaps you can help me. I am looking to convert an mp3 to MIDI and then >into sheet music. Can this be done on Sibelius or Finale? If so, How?!? > >Thanks in advance, > >Nick     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005      
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Fees and Accompanists misunderstood From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:21:06 EDT   Dear Russ Greene and Chatters:   I'm sorry, but you missed the point. The singer brings the music in the key s/he is accustomed to singing it. No one is suggesting that the singer sing in the "organist's key".   Justin Hartz  
(back) Subject: Re: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP! From: "tom hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:24:49 -0500   It sounds as though you want to print out something you have an audio recording of. There is software that will do it -- it's called WIDI -- and is a music recognition software. I tried a George Wright CD and recorded it on my hard drive -- of course I said to recognize all pitches -- and it showed every footage of stop played along with notation of the mutations as well..   It can be configured to just hear a single note but -- it's difficult to work with. If you want to put something in print from an MP3 pray that it is recorded on just 8' stops.   tom   -----Original Message----- From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:00:21 -0400 Subject: Sibelus or Finale. . . HELP!   > Hello all, > Perhaps you can help me. I am looking to convert an mp3 to MIDI and > then > into sheet music. Can this be done on Sibelius or Finale? If so, How?!? > Thanks in advance, > Nick > > -- > Nicholas F. Russotto > Somers, Connecticut > Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/ >