PipeChat Digest #5269 - Tuesday, April 12, 2005
 
PipeChat IRC this evening,
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: Hancock in Pittsburgh05
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
B8
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Balbastre La Marseillaise
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Balbastre La Marseillaise
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Latin expression
  by "Arthur Critchley" <awc@organworks.com>
Re: Latin expression
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Concert Announcement:  Lafayette Indiana
  by "Jim Zimmerman" <jrzimmer@purdue.edu>
Re: Orgelbuchlein.....
  by "Organist" <organist@clover.net>
Re: ORGELBUCHLEIN AND THE LITURGICAL YEAR (x post)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Balbastre La Marseillaise
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
This week's 1st MP3 - Leo Sowerby - Veni Creator
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
Re: Latin expression
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: PipeChat IRC this evening, From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:29:28 -0400   All members of PipeChat are invited to join us in the PipeChat IRC any Friday and Monday evening - beginning at 9.00 PM Eastern Time.   To find out more about the Chat room, or how to get into it, go to PipeChat-L web page at http://www.pipechat.org/   You will find out all you need to know to join us.   Tonight at 9.00 PM, - I hope that we will see you there.   Cheers,   Bob Conway        
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:02:13 EDT   "B8" most likely indicates borrowed or duplexed stops.   Seb  
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:18:32 -0500   Hi, David (and Seb) --   Dare I ask what became of the Welte-Tripp upon the Alien invasion?   I do so hope that it wasn't literally chopped up and hauled to the dump. . = ..   --Tim   At 12:14 PM 4/10/2005, David E. wrote:   >The Allen replaced one of the last Welte-Tripp, "English classic type >orchestral" organs. > >I try not to think about the replacement of the Welte-Tripp. At the time >it had a replacement 4 Manual Mohller console. It is too painful a >memory, as I was employed at Calvary during those years as Radio engineer >and remember the events too clearly.   <snip>      
(back) Subject: Re: Hancock in Pittsburgh05 From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:34:01 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050603080305010802070701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   We picked the tunes, and he used them profusely, so I expect it was different.   -WG   >"Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> > > >This is the exact program he played at St. David's Episcopal Church, >Glenview, IL, on Sunday, October 20, 2002. I hope the improv was = different. > > > >   --------------050603080305010802070701 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=3D"------------070408080508040308030707"     --------------070408080508040308030707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" = content=3D"text/html;charset=3DISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> We picked the tunes, and he used them profusely, so I expect it was different.<br> <br> -WG<br> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <pre wrap=3D"">"Robert Lind" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:lindr@core.com">&lt;lindr@core.com&gt;</a>     This is the exact program he played at St. David's Episcopal Church, Glenview, IL, on Sunday, October 20, 2002. I hope the improv was = different. <img src=3D"cid:part1.01090404.06000308@nauticom.net" alt=3D":-)" class=3D"moz-txt-smily" height=3D"19" width=3D"19" align=3D"middle">   </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>   --------------070408080508040308030707 Content-Type: image/gif; name=3D"smile_n.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <part1.01090404.06000308@nauticom.net> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3D"smile_n.gif"   R0lGODlhEwATAKIAAP//AMzMAGZmAP8zAAAAAP///wAAAAAAACH5BAEAAAUALAAAAAATABMA AANVWLrUTisyEoC1oUlFr8dQRHykFRad+Y0gdzlv86KVKdsskOUAjHu312rFK5GCRWDMJDAC BKxGrTcFXTIo4CPY41QJgzAP69IWT14nWSL97DaiLVqRAAA7 --------------070408080508040308030707--   --------------050603080305010802070701--      
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:48:53 -0600   Hi Tim,   I know that Keith Bigger has a rank or division. He is the curator of the Steere Organ at Brooklyn Temple.   Also, to add to another comment, the Allen was said to be the first digital to be plugged into a church. Allen told us that Calvary Baptist was to be a 'showplace' for their company. Carlos Curley was touring with an Allen at that time and made a secret visit (not a public appearance, just came to try it out during the install). As far as 'showplace', I never recall anyone coming in, and I was there 40 hours during the week.   David E   On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 7:24 am, Tim Bovard wrote: > Hi, David (and Seb) -- > > Dare I ask what became of the Welte-Tripp upon the Alien invasion? > > I do so hope that it wasn't literally chopped up and hauled to the > dump. . . > > --Tim >     David E   David Evangelides 719-867-2729 (Sent by wireless T-Mobile Sidekick)  
(back) Subject: B8 From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:26:48 -0500   B8 would refer to the Bingo games in the chapel! LOL   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary Baptist, NYC From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:49:22 +0800     Glad to hear it's not the 2 2/3 Hammond stop. ;-)   > "B8" most likely indicates borrowed or duplexed stops. >=20 > Seb   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Balbastre La Marseillaise From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:38:26 -0500   Hi! I was wondering if anyone would be able to let me know in what exact volume I can find Balbastre's Variations on La Marseillaise. I'd like to play this piece for a recital I'm planning to do around Bastille Day     Blessings, Beau Surratt      
(back) Subject: Re: Balbastre La Marseillaise From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:19:13 EDT     In a message dated 4/11/05 12:38:50 PM, Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com=20 writes:     > Hi! > =A0 I was wondering if anyone would be able to let me know in what exact > volume I can find Balbastre's Variations on La Marseillaise. I'd like to > play this piece for a recital I'm planning to do around Bastille Day >=20 >=20 > Blessings, > Beau Surratt >=20   ask hoskins         Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Latin expression From: "Arthur Critchley" <awc@organworks.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:23:50 -0400   Hello   I heard a Latin phrase the other day - Organa Pulfurca' - or something = very similar, meaning the organs are struck. (from medieval times when organs had large levers instead of keys and the organist was a Pulsator Organorum =   who struck the keys).   It apparently is to be found in the Catholic liturgy for Holy Week.   As I heard it, but did not read it, and am not a Catholic, I am uncertain of the correct expression.   Can anybody please tell me the correct spelling of these words?   Thank you.     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arthur W. Critchley P. Eng. Classic Organ Works AWC@OrganWorks.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Latin expression From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:11:37 EDT   In a message dated 4/11/05 4:24:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, awc@organworks.com writes:     > It apparently is to be found in the Catholic liturgy for Holy Week. > > As I heard it, but did not read it, and am not a Catholic, I am = uncertain > of the correct expression. >   I assume that means that you are not Roman Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran or =   Orthodox, that is, that you are not "catholic". Be careful about the = "capital C".   It probably refers to the moment in the Easter Vigil at which the Organ is =   sounded after its silence during Holy Week.   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston  
(back) Subject: Concert Announcement: Lafayette Indiana From: "Jim Zimmerman" <jrzimmer@purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:10:46 -0500   Greetings,   John Gouwens, organist and carilloneur of the Culver Academies in Culver Indiana, will be performing a re-dedication program at First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in Lafayette Indiana on Sunday May 1st at = 7:00 P.M. The 3 manual 32 rank Schantz organ was originally installed in 1974. The program is in celebration of repairs and re-voicing completed = by Schantz during the past year. In 1999, the choir division wind chest was virtually destroyed when melting snow entered the chamber through a roof leak. In addition to installing a new wind chest restoring the choir division, Schantz releathered the console pneumatics and the Great and Pedal division regulator. The Schantz voicing crew has tonally regulated and re-voiced the organ mostly due to effects of carpeting (grrr!) that = was added about 10 years ago. For the amount of carpeting, the room is not dead by any means, but certainly not as lively as it once was.   First Christian Church is at the corner of 6th and North Streets in downtown Lafayette Indiana. Parking is available directly across the street from the church and in additional lots one and two blocks north. I =   know there are several listers throughout northern and central Indiana and =   eastern Illinois. If any of you can make it, we'd love to have you. Please introduce yourselves.   The recital program will be the following:   Bruhns: Preludium in E minor Bach: O Mensch Bewein Widor: Andante Cantabile from Symphonie IV Franck: Piece Heroique Hymn (to be announced) and Improvisation Bach: Prelude & Fugue in A Walton: Crown Imperial Bridge: Allegretto Grazioso Paulus: From three temperaments: Pensive, Impassioned     Jim Zimmerman    
(back) Subject: Re: Orgelbuchlein..... From: "Organist" <organist@clover.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:32:27 -0700     > My first Orgelbuchlein prelude was "Ich ruf zu dir". Since the > Philadelphia Orchestra recorded a transcription of this, I went to my > organ lesson playing it on full strings. LOL! My teacher was amused.     LOL!! I've a similar story. When I was in college, the first I worked on was "Das Alte Jahr..." After that, it was either "Ich Ruf'..." or "Christ Lag..." When we did "Christ Lag...," my teacher said, "Start working on it. We'll look at it next week." He gave me no other ditrection than to do as I thought best.   Well, long before I went to college, I learned it on my own. I had the old Riemenschneider edition, and in there he gaives the famous input, "Guilmant used to play it very slowly, with a sad atmosphere." This was bolstered by the fact that a notation in thew corner lists Guilmant's tempo as eighth note =3D 66. I, of course, took that to heart and totally ignored what else he had to say about it, mainly that Guilmant's interpretation was contrary to the meaning of the text, and that it should be played as a regular resurrection prelude. Ah... the innocence of youth! My teacher was quite amused the following week. I'm glad he set me straight. I like it much better the correct way. I wonder if any other people have been fooled by that little sentence.   I still have the Riemenschneider edition, but for about the last twenty years, I've been playing from the Robert Clark edition. I cherish it because it has a lot of my teacher's notes and comments written in. But it is also for this reason that someday, I expect the Clark will go on the shelf to keep it from falling apart. As books go, I have some Barenreiter editions, but not the Orgelbuchlein. I like Barenreiter, and that's probably what I'll get when I replace it.   Best wishes, Mike            
(back) Subject: Re: ORGELBUCHLEIN AND THE LITURGICAL YEAR (x post) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:01:10 -0400   Many of the chorales on which Bach based the chorale preludes in _Orgelb=FCchlein_ are to be found in today=B9s _Lutheran Book of Worship_ of th= e ELCA. A somewhat useful way to determine their application to the lectionary is to get the excellent paperbound Indexes for Worship Planning, Augsburg-Fortress, 1996. It makes suggestions of hymns in LBW for each Sunday and major festival of the Lutheran Church Year.   Organists in other denominations can, however, look up a given biblical passage included in their own lectionary in said index book and see where i= t falls in the Lutheran three-year lectionary and then, in turn, look at the listing of hymns for that day to see whether any chorales are suggested on which Bach wrote chorale preludes.   Sadly enough, this is a bit time-consuming. Many years ago I oversaw the individual project of one of the confirmands, i.e., to create a computerized listing of each hymn with each day of the lectionary added to the hymn number, to print it out both on paper and on self-adhesive paper, and then to cut the latter into small strips and past into a =B3hymnal of record=B2 for the parish. Thus, one can look at a given hymn in the hymnal and see when it is specified in the index.   Into that hymnal have also now been added the dates of each time each hymn has been sung, providing a quick history of the use of each hymn and thus indicating at least something of its familiarity or lack thereof.   If it seems useful enough, perhaps I could borrow said book from the church =8B I=B9m retired from that position but still go to church there =8B and create a list of chorales on which Bach wrote chorale preludes and add to i= t the scripture lessons to which the above-said index suggests each given chorale refers. In a few cases, the tune name in LBW is not that Bach used; for example, LBW calls =B3Lobe den Herren=B2 what Bach knew as =B3Kommst du....=B2 and on which he wrote that chorale prelude that Vernon de Tar used to say, when you to play it, is like walking on egg-shells.   The 1982 book of Lutheran Church =AD Missouri Synod called Lutheran Worship has yet more chorales in it than does LBW, but I am not aware of an index to that book in equivalent detail to the Augsburg-Fortress index mentioned above. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us on that.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA     On 4/9/05 10:36 PM, "ScottFop@aol.com" <ScottFop@aol.com> wrote:   > Hello > =20 > This may be a rather unusual question, but does anyone have any informati= on as > to which chorales in the Orgelbuchlein are supposed to be played on speci= fic > Sundays of the Liturgical Year? > =20 > Obviously I have played many of these chorales for years and years, and i= t is > obvious when many of them are supposed to be played, at least seasonally. > (Ie: "Nun komm" for Advent I or Advent in general in non-Liturgical chur= ches, > "In Dir" for New Year's, "Herr Gott nun schleuss" for Epiphany, "Christ L= ag" > for Lent and Good Friday etc.) > =20 > More recently, however, I have become very curious as to which specific > chorales were meant to be played on specific Sundays. While Bach's Luthe= ran > Liturgical year was not an identical parallel to the Roman Catholic or > Anglican Liturgical years, there were and are, none the less, very tellin= g > similarities. I even did a Google search but didn't find much on this. > =20 > I am also interested in which editions you all might use. Since college = days > I have been a huge fan of the Concordia, edited by John David Peterson (w= ho's > right here in town at the University of Memphis!) I find that edition ve= ry > clear and easy to read, and the inclusion of the individual chorales and > scholarly commentary make it a very worthwhile edition. I have recommend= ed it > to countless friends, students and colleagues through the years. In fact= , I > think I am on my third copy of it. I have one at home for my little Schl= icker > practice organ and one at church for use there, as well as my original fr= om > college years which is marked up beyond belief and from which I transfer = my > handwritten notes and cues. One of its covers is literally hanging by a > thread! LOL I also have a complete set of the Bach organ works that I h= ave > not yet used. It was put out a few years ago by Barenreiter, and I refer= to > it as the "big blue box set." > =20 > Any assistance here or sources to research will be much appreciated. Tha= nks! > =20 > Scott F. Foppiano > Organist and Director of Parish Music > Holy Rosary Catholic Church, Memphis, TN > In te Domine speravi, non confundar in aeternum. >=20      
(back) Subject: Re: Balbastre La Marseillaise From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:36:31 -0500   This isn't a period of organ music I concern myself with very much at all, but I do have a photocopy of this particular piece. It is number 23. = MARCHE DES MARSEILLOIS et l'Air =C7A-IRA, starting on p. 88 of some volume. The engraving or volume number, or whatever it's called, at the bottem of each page, is H.32387.   I wonder if it's part of his 66 Pieces. I know where I got this, and I should be able to find out who the publisher is if you still need this = info, Beau. If you do, contact me off-list, and I'll e-mail my source.   Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: Beau Surratt <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: Balbastre La Marseillaise     > Hi! > I was wondering if anyone would be able to let me know in what exact > volume I can find Balbastre's Variations on La Marseillaise. I'd like to > play this piece for a recital I'm planning to do around Bastille Day    
(back) Subject: This week's 1st MP3 - Leo Sowerby - Veni Creator From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:01:47 -0700   Leo Sowerby was perhaps one of the greatest American composers of the 20th century. He wrote hundreds of other works besides his large addition to the organ repertoire. His music is influenced by jazz and has a distinctly American flavor to it. Unfortunately, his orchestral works have lately been neglected - a shame, since they are wonderful, beautiful music.   His organ music has recently returned to fashion with the renewed interest in romanitc organs - This piece is a prelude on the Pentecost chant "Veni Creator", and is a continual crescendo until it ends in a blaze of full-organ glory.   ftp://diapason.dk/toccata/Sowerby,%20Leo/Sowerby%20-%20Veni%20Creator.mp3   Enjoy!   -- Jonathan Orwig Evensong Music, Media and Graphics New Organ Music http://www.evensongmusic.net   As always, I remind you that this site where the file is located is a LEGAL repository of private recordings of organ music. The site's owner pays royalties based on the number of downloads, so the copyright owners are getting their fair share. Further information about this procedure can be obtained here:   http://toccata-duo.typepad.com/toccata/2005/02/index.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Latin expression From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:00:31 +0100   A silent organ ? And during Holy Week ? (Capitals observed) ... when there are so many = services to play for!   That would be like pulling the curtains across the stained glass windows = so that the light couldn't come in.   It would be almost like someone had died !   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman who had his little pinkies worn-down by the = Requiem(s), Hymns, Psalms, Litanies, Liturgies and Voluntaries he was = required to play during Holy Week.] -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------   ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DERREINETOR@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Latin expression     In a message dated 4/11/05 4:24:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = awc@organworks.com writes:       It apparently is to be found in the Catholic liturgy for Holy Week.   As I heard it, but did not read it, and am not a Catholic, I am = uncertain=20 of the correct expression.       I assume that means that you are not Roman Catholic, Anglican, = Lutheran or Orthodox, that is, that you are not "catholic". Be careful = about the "capital C".   It probably refers to the moment in the Easter Vigil at which the = Organ is sounded after its silence during Holy Week.   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston