PipeChat Digest #5270 - Wednesday, April 13, 2005
 
Moller Artiste, Salvaged; to be parted out.
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Latin expression
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Calvary Baptist Allen
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Latin expression
  by "Arthur Critchley" <awc@organworks.com>
Re: Latin expression
  by "Arthur Critchley" <awc@organworks.com>
Moller Artiste, Salvaged;more info
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
32's?
  by <Adampkoch@aol.com>
RE: 32's?
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
RE: Have you had anything like this?
  by "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu>
Re: 32's?
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Electric Action Chests for Sale in Westchester, New York
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Moller Artiste, Salvaged; to be parted out. From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:23:30 -0700   Hi All,   Last Friday we picked up all the pipework from a 1930's Moller Artiste that was in pristine condition. Apparently it had some problems and the church decided a plug-in would suit its style and budget better. The less said about that part the better!   But through a mutual friend I was alerted to the imminent disposal plans and went up and filled my truck.   I see no problems liquidating the pipework for the benefit of our high school project, as all of it looks like it left Moller yesterday! Keep an eye on Ebay.   However, the main and swell chests, kinetic blower and regulators were left behind along with some relay work, and the swell shade motors and frame. The console they want to keep. For a desk!! oh well. Swell shades for a cabinet ;-(   I am negotating for these remnants as well, right now, but need to know if there is an interest in these items. We would even consider selling all of what we can get our hands on including the pipes for one price.   The chestwork is gorgeous and looks brand new. Of course all leather is original. It has a 16 ft Open Diapason that was mounted horizontally with a vertical chest. All racking included of course. CC and C# were "U" mitred to about 14'.   So far we identified an 8' Trumpet, 16' Open Diapason, a smaller scale Diapason, a Salicional, a Dulciana, 16' Bourdon stopped, still need to sort more.   Does anyone have the full spec for a Moller Artiste?   Let me know any thoughts on this.   John Vanderlee NYTOS  
(back) Subject: Re: Latin expression From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:02:52 +0000   On 4/12/05 7:00 AM, "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> wrote:   > It would be almost like someone had died ! > Well, yes.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Calvary Baptist Allen From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:34:04 -0500   The Calvary Baptist Allen was the "showpiece" demo organ on the LP Allen provided to potential customers, so in that sense, it may have been influential. I have the LP, and it really sounds quite nice.   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Re: Latin expression From: "Arthur Critchley" <awc@organworks.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:52:01 -0400   Hello At 05:11 PM 2005.04.11, DERREINETOR@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/11/05 4:24:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >awc@organworks.com writes: > > >>It apparently is to be found in the Catholic liturgy for Holy Week. >> >>As I heard it, but did not read it, and am not a Catholic, I am = uncertain >>of the correct expression. > > >I assume that means that you are not Roman Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran = or >Orthodox, that is, that you are not "catholic". Be careful about the >"capital C".   It does and I was accordingly careful with my 'C'. I am of the United Church of Canada. Therefore I am in ignorance of Catholic procedures and never did Latin at school.   I heard the expression and was not sure of its meaning and spelling. Curiosity is not confined to cats!   I needed to know because it could be included in a magazine article and it =   does not do to have people writing in and saying, "Dear Sir, I wish to point out...."     >It probably refers to the moment in the Easter Vigil at which the Organ = is >sounded after its silence during Holy Week.   So you don't know either?     >Pax, >Bill H. >SJE Boston   Thank you     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arthur W. Critchley P. Eng. Classic Organ Works AWC@OrganWorks.com
(back) Subject: Re: Latin expression From: "Arthur Critchley" <awc@organworks.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:52:01 -0400   Hello At 05:11 PM 2005.04.11, DERREINETOR@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/11/05 4:24:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >awc@organworks.com writes: > > >>It apparently is to be found in the Catholic liturgy for Holy Week. >> >>As I heard it, but did not read it, and am not a Catholic, I am = uncertain >>of the correct expression. > > >I assume that means that you are not Roman Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran = or >Orthodox, that is, that you are not "catholic". Be careful about the >"capital C".   It does and I was accordingly careful with my 'C'. I am of the United Church of Canada. Therefore I am in ignorance of Catholic procedures and never did Latin at school.   I heard the expression and was not sure of its meaning and spelling. Curiosity is not confined to cats!   I needed to know because it could be included in a magazine article and it =   does not do to have people writing in and saying, "Dear Sir, I wish to point out...."     >It probably refers to the moment in the Easter Vigil at which the Organ = is >sounded after its silence during Holy Week.   So you don't know either?     >Pax, >Bill H. >SJE Boston   Thank you     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arthur W. Critchley P. Eng. Classic Organ Works AWC@OrganWorks.com
(back) Subject: Moller Artiste, Salvaged;more info From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:27 -0700   Actually it is a "Double Artiste" 2 chamber installation, no case. Just looked in the shop: Opus # 6508. If anyone has a way to check that against a data base I 'd appreciate it.   below info from another source: NO 16 ft trumpet however, but 16ft Bourdon, stopped and 16ft Diapason = open.   The double artiste separated 6-ranks into two cases for divided expression. I believe they were configured: Open Diapason 8 4 Stopped Flute 8 4 2-2/3 Dulciana 8 4 and Salicional 8 4 2 Celeste 8 (tc) Trompette 16 8 4  
(back) Subject: 32's? From: <Adampkoch@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:00:49 EDT   Hi all, Does anybody know of a piece written for organ that would require a 32' = stop to be used in the great or swell division? Just curious as I saw a spec list for an organ that such stops in both swell and great... Got me to = thinking. Thanks, Adam P. Koch  
(back) Subject: RE: 32's? From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:15:48 -0700   I don't know of a specific piece, but 32's appeared in the manual division of some very early organs - or at least the writings of early organ builders.     The use of 32' manual tone in romantic French music can be assumed because the instruments all contain multiple 16' manual stops, the Toccatas = feature much figuration in the upper range of the keyboards, and there are often Rec/GO couplers at 16' pitch, which would make any swell 16' stops that = were drawn sound at 32' on the great.     However, if we generally assume that the pedal sounds an octave lower than the manual (in theory, if not in actual practice) that would make us need = a 64' stop in the pedals.     While I'm sure that 32' manual stops came on the scene fairly early in the organ's development, they were uncommon - found only in special = instruments. With the advent of the age of symphonic instruments, 32' manual stops = become fairly commonplace. A look at any comprehensive late E.M. Skinner organ will find a 32' Violone in the great, and G.D. Harrison continued the practice by including a 32' reed in the Mormon Tabernacle instrument, and you find 5-1/3 Quint stops fabricated of reed pipes in large reed = ensembles on some instruments, which reinforce the 16' harmonics.     Someone on the this list will have much more complete information than I!     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Randy Terry   Music Minister   The Episcopal Church of St. Peter   Redwood City, California   _____   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Adampkoch@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:01 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: 32's?     Hi all,   Does anybody know of a piece written for organ that would require a 32' = stop to be used in the great or swell division? Just curious as I saw a spec list for an organ that such stops in both swell and great... Got me to thinking.   Thanks,   Adam P. Koch    
(back) Subject: RE: Have you had anything like this? From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:38:25 -0400   Does the Alexander Technique help prevent this kind of disorder from occurring?    
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(back) Subject: Electric Action Chests for Sale in Westchester, New York From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:35:09 EDT   Two all-electric (electric valve action, indirect-electrolitrical, electromechanical) windchests are for sale at very reasonable prices as we = make way for a new pipe organ. Reisner 601 magnets.   Both chests are 80" long x 36" front to back and 10-1/4" from toeboard to bottom board, and have built-in schwimmers. Layout is chromatic and = "spatially economical."   Great chest: has toeboard borings for III-IV rank 73-note mixture, 61-note = 2' flute, 61- note 4' principal, 61-note 8' principal, and 73-note 8' capped flute. 9 of the bourdon and 6 of the 8' principal are on an offset chest. = $350 bucks gets you this one.   Swell chest: has toeboard borings for 61- note III rank cymbal, 73-note = 16' Krummhorn, 85-note 16' Trumpet with 1/2 length bass octave, two 61-note strings, an 85-pipe 8' capped flute, and a 73-note 4' Principal. $400 gets = you this one.   Also available: 2 six-note chests for 16' Subbass, $50; old swell engine, =   $20, and 1-12 of a zinc capped flute on 3-1/2" wind for $50.   We remove from the premises, you pick it up in the church parking lot. Insurance won't permit anybody but us to send these babies flying through = the client's famous stained glass windows. No crating or shipping, but heck, = you won't find used chests at these prices in your favorite shopping mall. And even = if you don't quarry the magnets for your dream house organ, Reisner 601s make = a wholesome, delicious, nutritious "anytime" snack, and the kids just LOVE = them. Any interested parties please call me at 917-749-0827.   Sebastian M. Gluck   ..