PipeChat Digest #5276 - Sunday, April 17, 2005
 
Re: St. Salvator's Cathedral Organ, Bruges, Belgium
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
Re: Symphonic Carillon
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Hector Olivera at Methuen Mass
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Hector
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Hector Olivera
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: Hector Olivera
  by <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Hector Olivera
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Hector
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Hector
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
RE: Hector Olivera
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Hector
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Calvary and the Grave Diapente
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: From a Carillon Lover
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
M=F6ller Opus List
  by "HammondH100" <h100series@pacbell.net>
Re: From a Carillon Lover
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Hector
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: M=F6ller Opus List
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: M=F6ller Opus List
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: St. Salvator's Cathedral Organ, Bruges, Belgium From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:40:07 -0500   You are correct Nick, "Hobo" is the Dutch translation of "Oboe". A = lovely sounding stop in reality, though very different from the typical = "American Classic" Oboe rank.   Cheers,   Tim Grenz ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stephen Best=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: Re: St. Salvator's Cathedral Organ, Bruges, Belgium     Take a look at http://www.organstops.org/o/Oboe.html. I see "hoboe" = is the German name for this stop -- and I'll bet hobo is Dutch...   N. Russotto wrote:   Hobo 8'? HAHAHA   I'd assume that the translation of the stoplist is as follows:   PEDAAL(P)   Principal 16 Gedackt 16 Zachtbas 16 ?? Quint 10 2/3 Octave 8 Flute 8 Octave 4 Gedackt 4 Cymbal II Ruispijp III-IV Bazuin 16 ?? Trompet 8 Schalmei 4   P+I P+II P+III   ONDERWERK(I)   Gedackt 8 Principal 8 Octave 4 Gemshorn 4 Nazard 2 2/3 Wouldflute 2 Mixtur III Schalmei 8   POSITIEF (I)   Holpfeif 8 Praestant 4 Flute 4 Oktave 2=20 Terz 1 3/5 Kleine Quint 1 1/3 Stemmeke 1 ?? Cymbel II Vulwerk III ?? Krummhorn 8   I+II I+III I+III(16')   HOOFDWERK (II)   Gedackt 16 Praestant 8 Rohrflute 8 Gamba 8 Octave 4=20 Flute 4 Nazard 2 2/3 Super Octave 2 Nachthorn 2 Sesquialtera II Vulwerk IV ?? Scharf III Cornet V Pommer 16 Trompet 8 Clarion 4   II+I II+II(16') II+III II+III(16')   RECIT EXPRESSIVE (III)=20   Rhorgedact 8 Grote Flute 8 Gamba 8 Zweving 8 ?? Quintadeen 8 Principal 4 Dwarsflute 4 Oktave 2 Echocornet III-V Cymbal II Dulcian 16 Trompet 8 Hobo 8 har dee har har=20   III+III(16')   =20     NR --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/      
(back) Subject: Re: Symphonic Carillon From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:04:18 -0400   I believe that diapason is Greek for "through the whole scale" therefore,= =20 there would be more than one diapason player. . .in effect, the whole=20 orchestra is a diapason! N   On 4/17/05, Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> wrote:=20 >=20 > Hi List, >=20 > I've been to a few symphony concerts, and never seen a diapason > player up on stage... Where does the diapason player normally sit? >=20 > - Nate >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Hector Olivera at Methuen Mass From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:15:01 EDT   The fact is, that Hector can play ANYTHING better in his sleep that most = of us can awake. This includes the Beatles, Bach and Benny (Goodman). = ...and long live the difference!!! His interperetations are awesome AND listenable. How many organists do = you know that can play electronic organ, classical pipe organ, and theatre = pipe organ one TENTH as well as Hector? He plays all with such excellence that = I doubt he has many peers. In my humble opinion, that is... :-) Stan Krider In a message dated 4/17/2005 6:41:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, wa lterg@nauticom.net writes:   The fact is, Greg, that Hector can play Franck, Vierne, Tournemire, and Bach better in his sleep than most of us can awake.      
(back) Subject: Hector From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:20:07 EDT   Once again, Master of it all, Mr. G, hits the situation correctly. The plain truth is, and i speak in generalities, Hector can outplay anyone on this list. In any style, at any time and at = any place. I admire him as much as i admire Virgil AND E Power, and Chapman, and = Conte and Jacobs. I admire and am jealous that the only pedal things i do well = are the Sowerby Pageant and the D Major cadenza, sells a lot of organs that = one does. Today, for the first time, my church's contemp service heard a soloist accompanied by the lousy Austin. She is a highly trained, opera capable = soloist, who runs a music school of some sort in Connecticut. She sang a = Rambo/Sandi Patti song. Those that were not crying were giving a standing ovation. A truly appropriate response in THAT service. Some had never heard the organ = before. I will be back in that service. Doing my part in Florida..... dale  
(back) Subject: Hector Olivera From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:20:36 EDT   Sebastian M. Gluck has provided a most scholarly evaluation of the phenomenon that is Hector Olivera. ..nuff said! Stan Krider     In a message dated 4/17/2005 6:41:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes: One of the errors that a few organists make when approaching Hector's performances is that they don't necessarily understand what he is doing, because they try, with hammer, chisel, and spite, to wedge them into the context = of classic academic organ recitals...   ....played on a superb cinema organ. Hector isn't going away, and there will be some Hector "wannabes" who will fade into oblivion. What we DO know is that an appreciation for the organ as an instrument IS going away, especially in the traditional worship = venues. If we ever were to succeed in suppressing the likes of Hector Olivera (which =   will not happen), who will be left?   Sebastian M. Gluck      
(back) Subject: Re: Hector Olivera From: <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:33 -0400 (EDT)   Sebastian,   You are absolutely correct. But the point I try to make every chance I get is that despite Hector's current career phase with the Roland, he is also one of the best classical pipe-organists in circulation, and he is, furthermore, one of the best ambasadors the pipe organ has out in front of the great organ-ignorant public.   I'll shut up now.   -WG   > From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> > > Dear List Members: > One of the errors that a few organists make when approaching = Hector's > performances is that they don't necessarily understand what he is doing, > because > they try, with hammer, chisel, and spite, to wedge them into the context > of classic academic organ recitals ...    
(back) Subject: Re: Hector Olivera From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:47:05 EDT     In a message dated 4/17/05 8:35:09 PM, walterg@nauticom.net writes:     > urthermore, one of the best ambasadors the pipe organ has out in front = of > the great organ-ignorant public. > > I'll shut up now. > > -WG >   Based upon a recital I attended recently, I respectfully, and = wholeheartedly disagree with the above statement. I will not write another word on this topic-it is not constructive-and I shouldn't have made that comment several days ago that started this whole = thing. Good evening- gfc       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Hector From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:54:10 -0700 (PDT)   Ok..Im sorry...gotta come out of my corner for a moment Olivera, Morris, Bish, Miller (Mark and Dan),Latry, Miura, Curly, = Fejko...all of them have chops that some of us would love to have. They = have an ability to play with such a forward motion, "covering the moment" = and making even a novice know where a piece is going. I heard Hector, with my mother, at Galloway Methodist (1994 Cassavant = IV/64) back home in Jackson several year ago (omg...im getting old) He = played impeccably from memory. He also orally delivered information on the = pieces rather than using program notes. ( I like doing this as it engages = the audience). Hector basically took us on a roller coaster ride with his = exherating playing, which included the Widor Toccata as encore. Even my = mother said, (and I will never forget!) "Baby that man can play that = organ!" A small framed man, he certainly is a great player and a very nice = person. I recall when he started to play the Bach 542, he even shouted out = to the audience "Are you READY!!!??! OKAY...'ere we go!" with his = delightful accent. It is people like that I look up to. He packed Mathuen? Other than Felix, = who from the lists packs a house?   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides!
(back) Subject: Re: Hector From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:59:07 -0400   Umm. I packed my Polish National Church this morning! ;) nfr   On 4/17/05, Desiree' <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote:=20 >=20 > Ok..Im sorry...gotta come out of my corner for a moment > Olivera, Morris, Bish, Miller (Mark and Dan),Latry, Miura, Curly,=20 > Fejko...all of them have chops that some of us would love to have. They h= ave=20 > an ability to play with such a forward motion, "covering the moment" and= =20 > making even a novice know where a piece is going.=20 > I heard Hector, with my mother, at Galloway Methodist (1994 Cassavant=20 > IV/64) back home in Jackson several year ago (omg...im getting old) He=20 > played impeccably from memory. He also orally delivered information on th= e=20 > pieces rather than using program notes. ( I like doing this as it engages= =20 > the audience). Hector basically took us on a roller coaster ride with his= =20 > exherating playing, which included the Widor Toccata as encore. Even my= =20 > mother said, (and I will never forget!) "Baby that man can play that orga= n!"=20 > A small framed man, he certainly is a great player and a very nice person= .. I=20 > recall when he started to play the Bach 542, he even shouted out to the= =20 > audience "Are you READY!!!??! OKAY...'ere we go!" with his delightful=20 > accent.=20 > It is people like that I look up to. He packed Mathuen? Other than Felix= ,=20 > who from the lists packs a house? > =20 > ------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=3DX3oDMT= FmZ2htMTlyBF9TAzMyOTc1MDIEX3MDODYyNzYxNwRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbWFpbARzbGsDZm9vdGVy/= SIG=3D10tesb5j9/**http%3a//travel.yahoo.com/>:=20 > Now over 17,000 guides!<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=3DX3oDMTFmMnFhajhhBF= 9TAzMyOTc1MDIEX3MDODYyNzYxNwRwb3MDMgRzZWMDbWFpbARzbGsDZm9vdGVy/SIG=3D12jqk5= n45/**http%3a//travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-191500002-destination_guides_= vacations-i>=20 >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: RE: Hector Olivera From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:18:28 -0500   I hope to hear him live some day.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Hector From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:25:39 -0700 (PDT)   Good for you! Did'nt the Polish National Church just do a new installation?   "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> wrote: Umm. I packed my Polish National Church this morning! ;) nfr   On 4/17/05, Desiree' <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote: Ok..Im sorry...gotta = come out of my corner for a moment Olivera, Morris, Bish, Miller (Mark and Dan),Latry, Miura, Curly, = Fejko...all of them have chops that some of us would love to have. They = have an ability to play with such a forward motion, "covering the moment" = and making even a novice know where a piece is going. I heard Hector, with my mother, at Galloway Methodist (1994 Cassavant = IV/64) back home in Jackson several year ago (omg...im getting old) He = played impeccably from memory. He also orally delivered information on the = pieces rather than using program notes. ( I like doing this as it engages = the audience). Hector basically took us on a roller coaster ride with his = exherating playing, which included the Widor Toccata as encore. Even my = mother said, (and I will never forget!) "Baby that man can play that = organ!" A small framed man, he certainly is a great player and a very nice = person. I recall when he started to play the Bach 542, he even shouted out = to the audience "Are you READY!!!??! OKAY...'ere we go!" with his = delightful accent. It is people like that I look up to. He packed Mathuen? Other than Felix, = who from the lists packs a house?     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides!               -- Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides!
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary and the Grave Diapente From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:39:18 EDT   I was the Organist and Associate Minister of Music at Calvary Church while =   Dan Miller was the Minister of Music, after David German had left the = position for another church in Charlotte, and Dan was moved up from Organist. So I = can speak with authority on the Grave Diapente and the Symphonic Carillon = there.   The Symphonic Carillon was never installed (thank God, because they sound awful!). They really are bong-a-trons, and being a trained carilonneur, = they don't even begin to replicate the sound of real bells. I would never have = used them.   The Grave Diapente is a fanciful name for the 21 1/3' Quint (principal) = stop in the pedal. It makes a 64' Resultant when used with the 32' Contra Principal. It's kind of fun for when you want extra rumble in the pedal = and most everything else is on.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: From a Carillon Lover From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:41:32 -0400   Dear List,   The University of Florida in Gainesville has a carillon, which is played by Dr. Laura Ennis, who teaches organ and carillon.   Pat Maimone, enjoying spring in the Hudson Valley patmai at juno.com   http://chvago.org Regions II and III AGO Convention - June 22-25 in Poughkeepsie, NY  
(back) Subject: M=F6ller Opus List From: "HammondH100" <h100series@pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:59:07 -0700   Is there published somewhere a list of M=F6ller dispositions/stop-lists= based=20 on Opus numbers somewhere on line? I have a M=F6ller instrument in a church= =20 which all but about 3 of the tabs have shrank, turned to powder, crumbled=20 and or fallen off. My pipe organ associate made a rough list based on the= =20 sounds of the stops but a real list of the original specification would be= =20 best.   Sincerely   Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://go.to/tonewheels Carillon Web Ring http://g.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dthecarillonwebri Organ Builders and Dealers Web Ring=20 http://u.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dorganbuildersand      
(back) Subject: Re: From a Carillon Lover From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:59:53 EDT   In a message dated 4/17/2005 10:44:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patmai@juno.com writes: > Dr. Laura Ennis,   If I may be so bold as to correct you, her last name is Ellis. A very = dear friend of mine.   Neil by the Bay  
(back) Subject: Re: Hector From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:03:31 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   From the other side of the pond, I can bring a distant perspective about Hector Olivera.   We have a BBC programme called "The organist entertains" which focuses on the theatre organ. I recall listening one evening, when a track featuring a fine Wurlitzer organ just made me sit up and take note.   It was virtuosic, attention-grabbing and absolutely brilliantly performed.   It was of course Hector, and I have since had the pleasure of marvelling at his astonishing recorded performances. I think he is one of the few truly great organ-entertainers in the world, and they are a very rare breed indeed.   He is certainly a performer I would travel a long way to hear.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:12:17 -0500   I would think that on an original installation, there are hand written name= s=20 of the stops on the relays, junction boards or toeboards - somewhere! That= =20 certainly is the case on our 1930 Moller (#5867). What experience do others= =20 have with moller chamber notations of stop names? Certainly there are=20 stampings on the pipes themselves, though these occationally don't perfectl= y=20 match the stop tab names. Kip in MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "HammondH100" <h100series@pacbell.net> To: "Pipe Chat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: M=F6ller Opus List     Is there published somewhere a list of M=F6ller dispositions/stop-lists bas= ed on Opus numbers somewhere on line? I have a M=F6ller instrument in a church which all but about 3 of the tabs have shrank, turned to powder, crumbled and or fallen off. My pipe organ associate made a rough list based on the sounds of the stops but a real list of the original specification would be best.   Sincerely   Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://go.to/tonewheels Carillon Web Ring http://g.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dthecarillonwebri Organ Builders and Dealers Web Ring http://u.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dorganbuildersand       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>         on  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:29:41 -0500   P.S. - "Shrink - Shrank - have Shrunk", like "Drink - Drank - have Drunk",= =20 though nobody is brave or informed enough to say it properly any more!     ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List     I would think that on an original installation, there are hand written name= s of the stops on the relays, junction boards or toeboards - somewhere! That certainly is the case on our 1930 Moller (#5867). What experience do others have with moller chamber notations of stop names? Certainly there are stampings on the pipes themselves, though these occationally don't perfectl= y match the stop tab names. Kip in MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "HammondH100" <h100series@pacbell.net> To: "Pipe Chat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: M=F6ller Opus List     Is there published somewhere a list of M=F6ller dispositions/stop-lists bas= ed on Opus numbers somewhere on line? I have a M=F6ller instrument in a church which all but about 3 of the tabs have shrank, turned to powder, crumbled and or fallen off. My pipe organ associate made a rough list based on the sounds of the stops but a real list of the original specification would be best.   Sincerely   Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://go.to/tonewheels Carillon Web Ring http://g.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dthecarillonwebri Organ Builders and Dealers Web Ring http://u.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dorganbuildersand       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>         on   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>         Pi