PipeChat Digest #5278 - Tuesday, April 19, 2005
 
Re: Hector Olivera's Franck Recording
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
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Re: M=F6ller Opus List Publication
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Re: St. Salvator's Cathedral Organ, Bruges, Belgium
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Re: M=F6ller Opus List Publication
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Re: M=F6ller Opus List Publication
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: M=F6ller Opus List
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Re: M=F6ller Opus List
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
SISTINE CHOIR AND ORGAN - PROCESSION OF CARDINALS (x post)
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Re: Hector
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: From a carillon lover
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: SISTINE CHOIR AND ORGAN - PROCESSION OF CARDINALS (x post)
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Hector Olivera
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Re: Re: M=96ller Opus List Publication
  by "mpm1927op4933" <mpm1927op4933@yahoo.com>
Re: M=F6ller Opus List
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
IMPORTANT regarding IRC Tonight
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Re: M=F6ller Opus List
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
RE: M=F6ller Opus List
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Dr. Gerre Hancock concert set
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Hector Olivera's Franck Recording From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:15:57 EDT   Good morning, Y'all! A few years ago, Hector made a an all-Franck recording at the very reverberant St. Mary's Cathedral (R.C.) in Miami. I was visiting with a = well-educated, widely-travelled, well-known organist, and had just received the c.d., = and as I played snipets for this organist (I didn't say who was the = organist), I kept hearing "wow", "gotta be French", "knows how to register", etc., = etc., etc. It was fun seeing her face when I told her it was Hector! At our Region IV convention in 1995, we wanted something fun and somebody =   funner (!!!!) to be the draw to the community for the 4th of July. It = worked. We hired Hector, and the place was full. We had massive amounts of = balloons and decorations, which of course, added to the excitement and festive = spirit. At our table in at the LA Convention sat a couple of boring, stuffy, = snotty, better-than-thou, organist-types, who expressed several times that it was =   disgusting for the LA Convention organizers to have the Roland "machine" = and Hector for the Banquet. Of course, they never had heard him perform. As = the meal progressed, I said, "just wait, you'll see." They were thrilled when = the night was over, and if you didn't know better, you'd think they were the = ones who suggested it in the first place! I do have a criticism of Hector, which is the same criticism of the organists who travel and open electronic instruments. They often use the = midi stuff too much. Sure, use it some, but don't rely on it. Just play the organ! Am I Hector fan? Absolutely! Yours, Darryl by the Sea Nashville, TN  
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(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List Publication From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:49:06 EDT   To start: If your "pipe organ associate" cannot determine the stoplist = by inspecting the organ, he should not be associating with pipe organs. = Period. Best to find somebody with more than a mere "association" to look into = these matters and tend to the organ's care. Now, to the point of your query: The Moller opus list is in the = process of being reconstructed in a scholarly manner by members of the National = Council of the Organ Historical Society. It is a titanic job, complicated by the records being unavailable for quite some time. It is not possible to = publish nearly 12,000 stoplists, but an opus list is in the works. Publication is anticipated, but no date yet determined.   Sebastian M. Gluck National Councilor for Research and Publications The Organ Historical Society  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Salvator's Cathedral Organ, Bruges, Belgium From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:51:39 -0700   >Take a look at ><http://www.organstops.org/o/Oboe.html>http://www.organstops.org/o/Oboe.ht= ml. > I see "hoboe" is the German name for this stop -- and I'll bet hobo >is Dutch... > >N. Russotto wrote: > >>Hobo 8'? HAHAHA >>   The Dutch is indeed "HOBO"     A very DUTCH John Vanderlee --  
(back) Subject: Re: Re: M=F6ller Opus List Publication From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:42:22 -0400     On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:49:06 EDT TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > Now, to the point of your query: The Moller opus list is in the > process > of being reconstructed in a scholarly manner by members of the > National Council > of the Organ Historical Society. It is a titanic job, complicated by > the > records being unavailable for quite some time. It is not possible to > publish > nearly 12,000 stoplists, but an opus list is in the works. > Publication is > anticipated, but no date yet determined.       Dear List:   If anyone requires minimal information from the Moller Opus List, I possess a copy up to #5831.     Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List Publication From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:50:31 -0700   > To start: If your "pipe organ associate" cannot determine the = stoplist by >inspecting the organ, he should not be associating with pipe organs. = Period. >Best to find somebody with more than a mere "association" to look into = these >matters and tend to the organ's care. > Now, to the point of your query: The Moller opus list is in the = process >of being reconstructed in a scholarly manner by members of the >National Council >of the Organ Historical Society. It is a titanic job, complicated by the >records being unavailable for quite some time. It is not possible to = publish >nearly 12,000 stoplists, but an opus list is in the works. Publication is >anticipated, but no date yet determined. > >Sebastian M. Gluck >National Councilor for Research and Publications >The Organ Historical Society   I just acquired most of a Moller double Artiste. The chests has the stops clearly written on them. The Relay portions also bear the names of the associated stops. I had contacted OHS for a possible spec by opus #. The response was quick and polite. It seems that "Artistes" were an off the floor item and specs were not always recorded for those.   Just my 2cents   John V   --  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:17:25 EDT   In a message dated 4/17/05 8:29:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kipsmith@getgoin.net writes:   > P.S. - "Shrink - Shrank - have Shrunk", like "Drink - Drank - have = Drunk", > though nobody is brave or informed enough to say it properly any more!   don't forget blink, blank, and have blunk (i.e., "that light has blunk all =   night!").   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:50:34 -0500   My personal hobbyhorse is that Stopt Diapason should be spelt "stopt" = and not "stopped". "I stopped my diapason" is correct. So is, "My = diapason is stopt." But not the other way around. Note, for example, = Sir William Phips writing in 1692 about his putting an end to the Salem = Witch Trials:=20   " I did before any application was made unto me about it put a stop to = the proceedings of the court and they are now *stopt* till their = Majesties pleasure be known [...] The Deputy Govr. notwithstanding = persisted vigorously in the same method, to the great disatisfaction and = disturbance of the people, until I put an end to the court and *stopped* = the proceedings." =20   The same usage can be found in the writings of Benjamin Franklin and = Jane Austen, though modern editions usually change the spelling.   John Speller ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BlueeyedBear@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List     In a message dated 4/17/05 8:29:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = kipsmith@getgoin.net writes:     P.S. - "Shrink - Shrank - have Shrunk", like "Drink - Drank - have = Drunk",=20 though nobody is brave or informed enough to say it properly any = more!     don't forget blink, blank, and have blunk (i.e., "that light has blunk = all night!").   scot
(back) Subject: SISTINE CHOIR AND ORGAN - PROCESSION OF CARDINALS (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:04:56 EDT   Hello all I am watching with great interest the procession of Cardinals and taking = of the oath before the conclave is sealed off and goes into action. I could not help but notice, immediately, the difference in sound of the Sistine Chapel Choir this morning as opposed to that at the Papal funeral = week before last. I think that is speaks for itself in light of recent = opinions and postings regarding their sound in Vatican Square and with the aid of amplified pipe organ in the Basilica. In addition to hearing the gentle and quite beautiful tone of the new Sistine Chapel organ, the sound of the choir showed restraint, their = intonation could not have been better, the timing was excellent and I know that = being together in the back right corner of the Chapel as opposed to the front = colonnade of St. Peter's made a huge difference. They were able to hear each = other, to see the director better and to hear the organ. Even though the men of = the choir do sing somewhat "full voice" it was incredibly restrained and = under control. In addition, the mi placement seemed to be exemplary this time = around. I am sure that someone somewhere will disagree and make uncomplimentary remarks about their singing again, but anyone who watched and listened to = this living history this morning will in all truthfulness know otherwise. As I close this writing, James Goettsche, Vatican organist, is = improvising on "O Sacred Head..." on a beautiful 8' flute. Oh, now he's playing "Air = on a G String" by Bach...haha. GOOD music! (Again, no Glory and Praise or guitars or contemporary ditties...hmmm...I =   wonder what THAT means...) -Scott, Memphis Scott F. Foppiano   Organist and Director of Parish Music Holy Rosary Catholic Church, Memphis, TN In te Domine speravi, non confundar in aeternum.  
(back) Subject: Re: Hector From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:27:21 -0400   They could have! We're wayyyyy out in the sticks here ;) I dont get any=20 musical news from the PNCC :( Nick   On 4/17/05, Colin Mitchell <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:=20 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > From the other side of the pond, I can bring a distant > perspective about Hector Olivera. >=20 > We have a BBC programme called "The organist > entertains" which focuses on the theatre organ. I > recall listening one evening, when a track featuring a > fine Wurlitzer organ just made me sit up and take > note. >=20 > It was virtuosic, attention-grabbing and absolutely > brilliantly performed. >=20 > It was of course Hector, and I have since had the > pleasure of marvelling at his astonishing recorded > performances. I think he is one of the few truly great > organ-entertainers in the world, and they are a very > rare breed indeed. >=20 > He is certainly a performer I would travel a long way > to hear. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Colin Mitchell UK >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: From a carillon lover From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:30:33 -0400   Bill Gates? Warren Buffett? Paul Newman? nr   On 4/18/05, Harry Grove <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> wrote:=20 >=20 > When our village bells were restored at the Millennium (originally cast= =20 > 1676 - which in America is probably a long time ago) > we had to spend extra money in strengthening the frame (oak trunks) by=20 > underpinning them with steel H-frame girders. > This gave the springiness of the natural wood with the reassurance that w= e=20 > wouldn't come 'tumbling down', together with tons of rotating metal and s= ome=20 > 60 foot of stone masonry which makes-up the spire. > Savings were made by NOT re-installing the carillon - entire; and by only= =20 > putting back those pieces which doubled as the clock striking mechanism. > So, we have a beautiful peal of eight (Treble 5 cwt to Tenor 18 cwt) and = a=20 > working clock; but no Carillon. > This correspondence has stirred thoughts in me about finding the=20 > remaining cash to complete things. > Anyone know of a rich philanthropist ? > Harry Grove > [a.k.a. a musicman thumbing through his address book] >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > *From:* Justinhartz@aol.com=20 > *To:* pipechat@pipechat.org=20 > *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2005 5:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: From a carillon lover >=20 > [snip]=20 > They are not played like a "real" carillon, which is played using fists= ,=20 > feet, and occasionally open hands. > Ours was a 'fist thumper' >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: SISTINE CHOIR AND ORGAN - PROCESSION OF CARDINALS (x post) From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:41:33 EDT   Scott,   Singing outdoors is always difficult, to be fair. Today is definately an improvement over the al fresco funeral. I agree, the choir of men and boys = appears to be back in their element (or rather, finally taking shelter FROM the elements).   I hope the absence of guitars, etc, means a re-thinking of the aesthetic aftermath of Vatican II--which was surely an unintended consequence of = "change, and QUICK". I find it funny that some of the Churchly Princes are = decrying "relativism" and the "cult of the individual" (by that I mean Ratzinger), = and that some who are singing that same tune here in the United States are singing = it to the self-indulgent strains of Baby-Boomer Folk Mass rubbish. And = certainly not singing it to Solemn "Novus Ordo" Latin Masses, such as we have = witnessed in the Vatican in the last weeks.   Pax, Bill H. Boston  
(back) Subject: Re: Hector Olivera From: <FLTim@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:02:28 EDT   Hello All,   Hector's Franck recording (Franckly Speaking) was done at the Cathedral of =   St. Mary in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami, Florida.   The program: Fantasia in A Major (14:03) Cantabile (7:16) Piece Heroique (7:58) Pastorale (8:22) Grand Piece Symphonique (26:07)   The organ there is tremendous. The AGO chapters in that part of the world =   often have events there. The organ is a Moller/Rodgers IV-manual with = roughly 50-ranks of pipes and 90-ranks of digital, 9 divisions. If you are ever = in the area, its worth stoping by.   Hector also has a recording (Crown Him with Many Crowns) that illustrates = his talent for hymn arrangements. I highly reccomend it.   If you are interested you can obtain copies at: = http://www.hectorolivera.com   Best regards, Timothy L. Newby, Vice President     Central Music, Inc. Serving Florida's churches since 1958 http://www.centralmusic.biz/ Representing: Fratelli Ruffatti "Distinguished pipe organ builders of Padua, Italy" Rodgers - The world leader in stereo imaged digital organs and pipe/digital combination organs Bluthner - Fine Greman concert grand pianos Roland - World's largest builder of digital musical instruments In a message dated 4/18/2005 12:03:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thoehn@theatreorgans.com writes: I haven't seen Hector live in quite a while -- although I do have a copy of his works of Caesar Franck recorded in Miami on a rather large instrument (I forget which one now) it is utterly fantastic.   I've known Hector for many years first from his days of playing the O-1 to Yamaha to Rodgers/Roland. He never ceases to amaze me and make me want to quit playing after one of his performances (some artists make me wanna practice -- to sound more like them -- but Hector just makes me think I'll never do any better -- and then I start practicing again.   He is a true gentleman, and a genius besides. His pedalwork is absolutely fantabulous.   My .02 worth   Tom Hoehn, Clearwater, FL  
(back) Subject: Re: Re: M=96ller Opus List Publication From: "mpm1927op4933" <mpm1927op4933@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT)   Hi Jim,   I play and practice regularly on a 1927 Moeller (opus 4933). I'd be interested in whatever information you have to include in an organ manual I wrote for our specific installation to be referenced by our organists. Some long-time members of the church inform me that the organ was donated by a lady some time ago, and it received an electronics upgrade during the early eighties after some rain damage occurred. The organ tuner believes that the octave rank on it appears to have been added at about the same time. That's about all we know about it.   Thank you for any information, Scott mpm1927op4933@yahoo.com   > Dear List: > > If anyone requires minimal information from the > Moller Opus List, I > possess a copy up to #5831. > > > Jim         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:39:49 -0400   Dear Chris,   I can=B9t resist sending you this: someone=B9s joke in response to an earlier person=B9s comment. A yet earlier message had used the past participl= e of =B3to shrink=B2 incorrectly and had written that something =B3...had shrank..= .. =B3 where he should have written that the thing =B3...had shrunk....=B2 It=B9s one of those English verbs that forms the past and past participle that way.   Anyway, =B3Scot=B2 ends up having fun with the peculiarities of the English language. You are allowed to have some fun with it, too, even to take it English class if you wish.   On 4/18/05 10:17 AM, "BlueeyedBear@aol.com" <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> wrote:   > In a message dated 4/17/05 8:29:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > kipsmith@getgoin.net writes: >=20 >> P.S. - "Shrink - Shrank - have Shrunk", like "Drink - Drank - have Drunk= ", >> though nobody is brave or informed enough to say it properly any more! >=20 >=20 > don't forget blink, blank, and have blunk (i.e., "that light has blunk al= l > night!"). >=20 > scot   See, we folks in America have troubles with our own language just like I have trouble remembering the participles of German verbs. Do kids in Germany have trouble remembering verb forms?   Karl  
(back) Subject: IMPORTANT regarding IRC Tonight From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:47:23 -0500   At the end of last week we had a new higher speed connection installed for all the servers and little by little I have been switching over servers to this new connection. One of the servers I moved over the weekend is the IRC Server. If the information about its new address hasn't propagated all the way around the Internet you might have a problem connecting tonight - you might get something like "Server not found". If this happens please contact me and I will give you the information you need to connect.   Please use either my private address which is <david@blackiris.com> or if you have IM I should be able to be reached at <dcscribner1@mac.com>   I just found out that someone who was trying to connect to another of the servers that were moved had problems today so I thought I should warn everyone.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: More About IRC Tonight From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:13:25 -0500   Ad, our IRC "Guru" just sent me the following note on how to do a one-time connection if you have a problem connecting tonight.   **************************************************************** It works ok here, but here's how they can go about it for tonight as a one-time connection fix:   1) open mIRC   2) hit the X button on the grey "mIRC Options" box where they usually click the "Connect to IRC server" button in the middle   3) in the status window (which is now exposed, it's open behind the grey box when you start mirc), type this:   /server 67.103.160.57 6667   4) hit <enter>     I'll be in later. :)   Have fun! Ad ;-> ***************************************************************   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: M=F6ller Opus List From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:17:38 +0800   I sat on a bink at the bank while a man told me some bunk.     > don't forget blink, blank, and have blunk (i.e., "that light has blunk all > night!"). >=20 > scot       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: RE: M=F6ller Opus List From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:55:44 +1200   >I sat on a bink at the bank while a man told me some bunk.   The word "bink" is an old Scottish word that is synonymous with the = English word "settle" meaning a high-backed seat with arms, with a chest = underneath it. We have a bink in our front hall. If I may be crude, a bink is not the place for a bonk.   Ross        
(back) Subject: Dr. Gerre Hancock concert set From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:14:56 -0400   Our diocesan (Episcopal Diocese of Southern Ohio) newspaper reports that Dr. Gerre Hancock will be at Calvary Episcopal Church, Clifton (near Cincinnati, Ohio) on May 16, 2005. Calvary is hosting Dr. Hancock in a special concert honoring our retiring Bishop, the Rt. Rev. Herbert Thompson, Jr., and his late wife, Russelle. The concert is May 16, 8 p.m. at Calvary, 3766 Clifton Ave. More information is available at = 513.861.4437.   Cole Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.16 - Release Date: 4/18/2005