PipeChat Digest #5280 - Wednesday, April 20, 2005
 
Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: Hector
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: new pope
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: Hector
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: new pope
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
recital announcement--X-Post
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: recital announcement--X-Post
  by "Jon Kroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Off-topics
  by "Roy Kersey" <rkersey@tds.net>
off topic - what is the most progressive denomination?
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
St. Patrick's Kilgen
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
RE: Off-topics
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Re: OT: Big bell, St. Peter's, Rome
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
War March of the Priests (was: New pope)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Off-topics.....St Peter's Bell, Rome
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Organ Duets (X-Posted)
  by "Gayle Shipp" <pipechat@genies-bottle.com>
RE: War March of the Priests (was: New pope)
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
This week's 1st MP3 - JN David Choralwerk V1 no. 3
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
 

(back) Subject: Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:21:39 EDT   Hi, Y'all! I am transmitting the following message from a committee of the Nashville =   Chapter of the Guild. If you respond to this messsage, please do so, and = I'll forward the message to the appropriate committee members. Thanks for your help. Yours, Darryl by the Sea Nashville, TN   "The Nashville Chapter of AGO is wanting to revive Pipedreams in the Nashville community. It was dropped over 10 years ago from the local = public radio station primarily due to its 90-minute format. The chapter members who = are doing some research about this problem are wondering if other = cities/chapters around the country have faced similar difficulties. Have any of you had trouble with radio stations not broadcasting Pipedreams? Any input is appreciated."    
(back) Subject: Re: Hector From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:54:24 EDT   I have had the pleasure of hosting Hector in recital several times while I =   was the Organist/Associate Minister of Music at Calvary Church in = Charlotte, NC. Part of my job responsibility was coordinator of the Calvary Concert = Series, now sadly defunct. Hector was not the usual boring organist, but brought = a sense of humor and a TREMENDOUS talent to the concert. He drew huge = crowds to the church from all over the Southeast and put the organ through it's = paces, showing off what it could do as a classical instrument and as a theatre = organ. He was not afraid of using all 205 ranks, something that only a few people =   other than Dan Miller and myself ever knew and understood how to do.   I think that the people who can't appreciate Hector are the ones who are jealous of him and his talent. I have seen and heard him in person, I = know him, and I know how the audience reacts to him. All I can say are very = positive things. The man has more talent than most of this list has put together, = BUT he's so down to earth that you'd never know that he's a musical genius. = What Hector can do is downright scary. The talent level is above = comprehension.   I've heard him use his "machine" and I've heard him perform on his former Yamaha "machine," and what he can do with them is nothing short of = amazing. I've also heard him perform organ and "orchestra" using pre-programmed tracks = on MIDI. It was quite fun and while not the same as having a live orchestra, = it beat playing to a CD.   He pushes the envelope of what a traditional recital can be, but if you = want him to do a 2 hour program of Bach, Lizst and Reubke he can do it and not blink an eye--and the audience will be spellbound!   Regarding the use of MIDI and sound modules, I do think that the digital organ companies are pushing MIDI sounds a little too much, but they can be = used to add some fun extra sounds. I use strings and brass and some percussion on =   occasion with great effect. However, don't use MIDI more than the = traditional organ sounds. IF you buy an ORGAN let the organ be augmented with the = extra sounds. If you want all the "fun" sounds and only a few organ sounds, = just get a keyboard. I heard a district rep for a digital company do a demo a = while back and he showed off the MIDI stuff more than he did what came standard = on the organ. It seemed a little out of balance to me...   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: new pope From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:55:55 EDT   In a message dated 4/19/05 12:34:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ProOrgo53@aol.com writes:   > Why would anyone do that if they so negatively view what the Conclave of =   > Cardinals have discerned to be God's holy will for this day and time in = the > world's history? (i.e., why would we step foot into the ministry of an > organization with which we have disdain, distrust and/or hatred?   that argument could be said for any of the popes in history. yet we all = know some of them were quite evil. as i've said before, i'm glad to be in an open-minded denomination.  
(back) Subject: Re: Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:56:40 -0500   Our Public Radio station, KSMU (which runs three stations/frequencies = and 4 or 5 repeaters covering south-west Missouri and north-west = Arkansas) won't pay for any such "little filler" programs, and our AGO = chapter can't come up with enough to sponsor it, so we listen on the = internet. Good Luck! =20 Kip Smith in Ava, MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarrylbytheSea@aol.com=20 To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu ; pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:21 PM Subject: Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting     Hi, Y'all!   I am transmitting the following message from a committee of the = Nashville Chapter of the Guild. If you respond to this messsage, please = do so, and I'll forward the message to the appropriate committee = members.   Thanks for your help.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea Nashville, TN   "The Nashville Chapter of AGO is wanting to revive Pipedreams in the = Nashville community. It was dropped over 10 years ago from the local = public radio station primarily due to its 90-minute format. The chapter = members who are doing some research about this problem are wondering if = other cities/chapters around the country have faced similar = difficulties. Have any of you had trouble with radio stations not = broadcasting Pipedreams? Any input is appreciated."
(back) Subject: Re: Hector From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:59:33 EDT   monty, i totally agree with you. hector's ability is truly scary. when i =   heard him he'd brought his own instrument with him, and to support the description of 'scary,' i can tell you that that beast had not = single-touch, or even double-touch, but TRIPLE-touch manuals. anyone who has the chance to hear =   hector in person should drop everything and run, not walk, to get a = ticket.   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: Assistance Needed with Pipedreams underwriting From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:02:37 EDT   In a message dated 4/19/05 7:57:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kipsmith@getgoin.net writes:   > Have any of you had trouble with radio stations not broadcasting > Pipedreams?   funny thing happened when i lived in memphis... the radio station there moved pipedreams from sunday afternoon at 3pm to some ungodly hour, like = 11pm. the chapter there wrote letters & made phone calls, but to no avail. = however, when the station had their fund drive several months later they discovered = that the organists weren't the only ones who were upset about the move. it = seems that many listeners withdrew their usual support and stated the reason for =   doing so. anyway, it worked because the station moved it to a more = reasonable time slot.   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: new pope From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:16:58 EDT   In a message dated 4/19/2005 9:56:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, BlueeyedBear@aol.com writes:   as i've said before, i'm glad to be in an open-minded denomination.     So am I, Blue! So am I! Dale G. Rider , MSacredMus, CAGO Organist, Composer/Arranger, Music Engraver Independence, MO, USA  
(back) Subject: recital announcement--X-Post From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:18:18 EDT   Sunday, May 1, 2005 at 4:45 pm I will be playing a recital at St. = Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. The program will include pieces by Guilmant, Mulet, John Cook, and Calvin Taylor. The Cathedral's 5 manual Kilgen = organ sounds incredible in the spacious acoustics, and having played there before, I = know that the French literature will sound great on that instrument. If any of = you are in the area, please stop by. I'd love to meet some of the list = members in person!     Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: RE: recital announcement--X-Post From: "Jon Kroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:26:02 -0500   Good Luck!   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of RMB10@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:18 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org; PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu Subject: recital announcement--X-Post   Sunday, May 1, 2005 at 4:45 pm I will be playing a recital at St. = Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. The program will include pieces by Guilmant, Mulet, John Cook, and Calvin Taylor. The Cathedral's 5 manual Kilgen = organ sounds incredible in the spacious acoustics, and having played there before, I = know   that the French literature will sound great on that instrument. If any of you are in the area, please stop by. I'd love to meet some of the list = members in person!     Monty Bennett   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Off-topics From: "Roy Kersey" <rkersey@tds.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:41:23 -0400   Hello All, I know pipechat is a more relaxed, social place than other organ = lists, but over the past two digests I am counting seven of twenty posts = and eleven of twenty-five posts as completely off topic. Forty per cent = of what's writtne has been way off-topic and if you look yourself you will = see that this is a conservative judgement. There were also several = adminstrative posts which qualified as on topic. If you take them out, we = are approaching 50% off-topic. As Sebastian has noted, most of these = posts are not even labeled as being off-topic, so one has to go at least = part way thru them looking for content. I was raised in an age when I was told to be quiet unless I had = something to contribute to the conversation and I know that most of you = were raised that way too. If I wanted to discuss movies or the bell at = St. Peter's or the Catholic Church's political situation, I would find the = appropriate forum on line or talk with friends in person who might be = interested. And, if there is anyone who didn't know that one pope died = and another was elected this week and had to find it out from this list, I = hope that person will email me privately, as I want to meet him or her. I = find it incredibly RUDE that this goes on week after week from people who = are obviously educated and wouldn't dream of doing such things in person. = Pluease! Pluease stop! If this is going to be an anything goes list with no moderation and = no rules, why don't we just label it as such ? Disgustedly, Roy Kersey Organ Enthusiast and Amateur Trumpeter    
(back) Subject: off topic - what is the most progressive denomination? From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:40:26 -0700   Since the election of a new pope this morning, I have been thinking about how similar the issues the Roman and Anglican churches are dealing with = are, in a fashion.     Episcopalians like to think of themselves as being progressive. I'm very lucky to work in a congregation that embraces the best aspects of = liberation theology, but I have had bosses in Episcopal Churches that were extremely conservative and I know at least one of them had mixed feelings about = hiring me. He never let me forget it.     I've also worked recently at a small United Church of Christ congregation = in San Carlos, California. This congregation, an elderly one, supported and employed the first woman to be ordained in the denomination, as well as = the first openly gay man to be ordained in the denomination. While the church is clearly not conservative, you'd never guess that these quiet old = retirees caused such a ruckus 25 years ago!     I'd venture a guess that the UCC in general is more liberal than the = ECUSA. However, I've been welcomed in churches that are aligned with conservative denominations, too. The thing I have finally learned is that each congregation is unique and special. The name on the outside only gives a glimpse into what may go on inside.     We are all aware that the majority of active Christians are located = outside of what we consider the traditional western cultures. So if the majority = of Anglican and Roman Catholic Christians are located in Africa and Latin America and are conservative, then it is appropriate that conservative theologians head these churches. If in the process of evolution the Anglican Communion and the Episcopal Church, USA have grown apart to the extent that a schism is forming, then perhaps a separation is in order. = The Church of England was not there when the Episcopal Church was born, so if there is a separation (which I hope doesn't happen) between the ECUSA and Canterbury, the world will not stop turning. It may even get better.     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Randy Terry   Music Minister   The Episcopal Church of St. Peter   Redwood City, California      
(back) Subject: St. Patrick's Kilgen From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:47:31 -0700   You go, Monty! I only have a recording of the St. Patricks' organs, and that made before the final additions/changes with the creation of the Nave division and newer big reed.   The French Bombardes in the pedal are fantastic, as seemed to be just = about everything else I heard. I'd always heard the thing was a big tub, and clearly, it had ceased being that long before the recent restoration projects began!   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California        
(back) Subject: RE: Off-topics From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:52:57 -0700       You are right Roy, and I am guilty. I shall refrain from any more = off-topic posts on the subjects mentioned, but I must say, before you take aim at anyone else for being rude, please read your comment below and get the log out of your own eye!   Randy Terry   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Roy Kersey Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:41 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Off-topics     If this is going to be an anything goes list with no moderation and = no rules, why don't we just label it as such ? Disgustedly, Roy Kersey Organ Enthusiast and Amateur Trumpeter          
(back) Subject: Re: OT: Big bell, St. Peter's, Rome From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:20:04 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Stan Yoder asked about the big bell at St.Peter's Rome.   Here goes it:-   The campanile was burned down in 1303, Boniface VIII had a new bell made.   Fifty years after the tower was struck by lightning, and a new great bell was founded in September 1353.   Benedict XIV had the bell recast in 1747, and when this cracked, the metal was once more used by Aloysius Valader to make the present beautiful bell under Pius VI in 1785.   The great bell of St. Peter's, Rome, weighs about nine tons.   However, it's a tiddler compared to St.Paul's, London, which weighs seventeen and a half tons.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK           __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide  
(back) Subject: War March of the Priests (was: New pope) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:26:55 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Sorry John!   That's been done at York Minster, here in the UK, when the liberal Bishop of Durham, Dr David Jenkins was consecrated bishop at York.   He had a conservative, fundamentalist "welcoming party" waiting for him outside the great West door!!   To qoute John Scott-Whitely, the organist on the day, "Well, it seemed to be the obvious thing to play!"   A few days later, the Minster was struck by lighting, the South transept destroyed by fire and the organ damaged!!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK           --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> wrote: > You could always try Mendelssohn's "War March of the > Priests."       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topics.....St Peter's Bell, Rome From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:36:37 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Oh bugger!   Sorry Roy.....erm....the Mascioni Organ Building site (Italian) is very interesting, with lots of mp3 clips to hear.   There's even a lovely recording of the organ in Tokyo Cathedral, and some pretty pics.   Does Tokyo Cathedral have a great bell??   Oooops! There we go again.   Regards,   Colin MItchell UK     --- Roy Kersey <rkersey@tds.net> wrote:   > I know pipechat is a more relaxed, social place > than other organ lists, but over the past two > digests I am counting seven of twenty posts and > eleven of twenty-five posts as completely off topic. > I find it incredibly > RUDE   > Pluease! Pluease > stop!       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide  
(back) Subject: Organ Duets (X-Posted) From: "Gayle Shipp" <pipechat@genies-bottle.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:13:07 -0600   Hi, all....   I'm looking for some Intermediate/Advanced Intermediate/Advanced organ duets -- four hands, one organ. I'm interested in getting suggestions covering a wide range of music, and I know I can count on this diverse group to make some great suggestions.   Thanks!   ~~Gayle  
(back) Subject: RE: War March of the Priests (was: New pope) From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:49:41 +1200   >A few days later, the Minster was struck by lighting, the South transept destroyed by fire and the organ damaged!!   That would be "lightning", Colin, otherwise you conjure up pictures of lethal laser and neon Harry Potter weapons charging round destroying the cathedral.... :-)   Ross    
(back) Subject: This week's 1st MP3 - JN David Choralwerk V1 no. 3 From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:14:41 -0700   ftp://diapason.dk/toccata/David,%20Johann%20Nepomuk/JNDavidChoralwerkvol1no= 3ErhaltunsHerr.mp3   Johann Nepomuk David - Choralwerk - Erhalt uns, Herr, bei deinem Wort   Number 3 in JND's first volume, it has 3 movements, all using canons and/or imitative writing. The first movement starts like a fugue, but the successive entries of the subject are always in the tonic key. In the second movement, the theme is in 3/2 time in the LH and is in canon with the pedals, which play a variant of the tune (in common time!) The final movement presents the tune in diminution in the RH while playing it also in the pedals.   The more I study David's works, the more I am convinced he was a contrapuntal GENIUS!   Enjoy,   -- Jonathan Orwig Evensong Music, Media and Graphics New Organ Music http://www.evensongmusic.net   As always, I remind you that this site where the file is located is a LEGAL repository of private recordings of organ music. The site's owner pays royalties based on the number of downloads, so the copyright owners are getting their fair share. Further information about this procedure can be obtained here:   http://toccata-duo.typepad.com/toccata/2005/02/index.html