PipeChat Digest #5302 - Friday, April 29, 2005
 
Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ?
  by "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl>
Re: tongues of flame(liturgical dancers)
  by "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl>
Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Flames for Pentecost
  by "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl>
Re: new topic digest #30945867349856730984576
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ
  by "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl>
RE: Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ
  by "Garrison W Johnson" <johnco18@comcast.net>
Re: tongues of flame and liturgical dance
  by <AGODRDANB@aol.com>
3/14 Organ Spec - not Wicks
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Re: new topic
  by <AGODRDANB@aol.com>
Multiple organists, one console
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Organs and denominations
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: new topic
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: Organs and denominations
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
denomination pianos & organs
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Blue organs
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Demessieux
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: new topic
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
RE: Howard Seat
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: tongues of flame(liturgical dancers)
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
My Old Flame
  by "Dennis Steckley" <kzrev@rr1.net>
A Charlie Chaplin Tribute with Dennis James
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: My Old Flame
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Tough material
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: new topic
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: When is a pipe organnot a pipe organ-Wurlitzer
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: new topic
  by <Joshwwhite@aol.com>
Re: Demessieux
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ? From: "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:08:13 +0200     On 28-apr-05, at 19:33, Cole wrote:   > Maurits wrote: >> All others (except of course the pure electronical ones) are hybrids. > > I heard that the Skinner in the National Cathedral (St. Peter and St. > Paul) in Washington, D.C. had an electronic bass somewhere. Does that > make the organ a hybrid?   If you use this classification very strict, yes.   > > When is a (wo)man not a (wo)man? When s/he has an artificial leg?   No, but there is a difference. A hybrid is still an organ, the only thing is that it is not completely a pipe organ. Therefore the term hybrid: part pipe organ, part electronic organ...   Maybe a bit more clear: I regard everything that has not a direct acoustical source electrical. Anyone better ideas ? :-)   BTW The classification I mentioned was only the way I look at it, so it is open for suggestions and comments :)     Greets   Maurits    
(back) Subject: Re: tongues of flame(liturgical dancers) From: "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:10:48 +0200   I totally agree. It is completely out of place... Glad I wasn't even born back then... ;)   greets   Maurits   On 28-apr-05, at 18:50, RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Maurits: > > I was witness to this sort of thing in 1968 in a RCC. I thought it > totally out of place in a sanctuary. It bordered on the sensual > and even pornographic. I don't ever want to see it again either. > I don't see any reason what so ever to do anything like this in > a church. They call it liturgical dance, but was it ever liturgical > to do it. I say no to that. It smacks of prurient intent and nothing > sacred about burlesque in a sacred place. > > Ron Severin > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:12:45 EDT   Traps, percussions, toy counters, bells, whistles, etc., are self-acknowledged effects. They are not masquerading as organ pipes, and = the intent is not to fool. A snare drum or triangle in a cinema organ is, in fact, more "honest" than a clarinet stop in an organ -- it's the real thing, and = labeled as such. The percussion stops in the organs of Bach's time did not suddenly = make THOSE organs invalid, did they? If one is looking for some way to justify contamination of a pipe = organ with artificially generated tone, then one should philosophically lean = toward what one other list member suggested: "Can the instrument survive the repertoire and its function without the artificially generated sounds?"   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/ ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Flames for Pentecost From: "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:15:08 +0200   And what about "Eternal Flame" ... ;-)   greets   Maurits   On 28-apr-05, at 21:42, First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois wrote:   > Well, Randy, there is the old jazz standard, "My Old Flame," but I > don't > think it's quite what you had in mind! ;>) > > Dennis Steckley > > "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Re: new topic digest #30945867349856730984576 From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:16:57 EDT   When posting a new topic, POST THE TOPIC. When changing a topic, post the NEW topic. When citing a digest by number, DON'T. We've been through this.  
(back) Subject: Re: Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ From: "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:21:28 +0200   When I wrote "have only pipes" I didn't think about percussive stops... Sorry about that.   I think the emphasis of calling an organ a hybrid has to be on wether it has electronical sounds... Using speakers etc...   greets   Maurits   On 29-apr-05, at 2:12, TubaMagna@aol.com wrote:   > Traps, percussions, toy counters, bells, whistles, etc., are > self-acknowledged effects. They are not masquerading as organ pipes, > and the intent is not > to fool. A snare drum or triangle in a cinema organ is, in fact, more > "honest" than a clarinet stop in an organ -- it's the real thing, and > labeled as such. > The percussion stops in the organs of Bach's time did not suddenly > make > THOSE organs invalid, did they? > If one is looking for some way to justify contamination of a pipe > organ > with artificially generated tone, then one should philosophically lean > toward > what one other list member suggested: "Can the instrument survive the > repertoire and its function without the artificially generated sounds?" > > Sebastian M. Gluck > New York City > http://www.glucknewyork.com/ > . > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: RE: Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ From: "Garrison W Johnson" <johnco18@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:36:27 -0400   I have seen numerous referenced to "electronically augmented pipe-organs," and, believe it or not, "pipe augmented electronic organs."   The Artisan Organ Company, founded by Robert Eby, provided kits-made-to-specification )circa 1970). They first had offered augmentation for pipe-organs. In later years, they offered pipe-augmentation.   Garrison W Johnson, user of toasters.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Maurits Lamers Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:21 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Of course a Wurlitzer is a pipe organ        
(back) Subject: Re: tongues of flame and liturgical dance From: <AGODRDANB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:40:14 EDT   You go Glenda! Strangely how ever I do the same, but due to my great modesty = I always carry a tasteful Ostritch feather fan. But seriously, I have seen a number of liturgical dances, sometimes , all be it rarely, they do lend some aesthetic, but more = often It feels creepy, perhaps because it is in a sanctuary, and seems very out of place, now if they = had ostritch feather fans, or perhaps a nice feather bowa that = would be ART ! Dr. Dan  
(back) Subject: 3/14 Organ Spec - not Wicks From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:42:40 -0400   Pipechatters,   Not trying to be prudish, but I'd like to see some suggestions for specs = to help the person who originally posted the question about the estimated = cost of a 3/14 pipe organ. We kinda got off chasing rabbits and never did actually help the questionner.   I am very interested in seeing some suggestions. I received two positive comments regarding my suggestion of designing a very nice 2-manual instrument using "judicious" unification/borrowing, then supplying a third manual which simply borrows a selection of the ranks from the other two divisions for accompanimental purposes - or for more contrast.   I'm sure there are some good ideas out there that would be worth this person's consideration.   I know I've posted this link before, but I'll post it again:   Small Three-Manual British organs of the Romantic Zenith by the late = Julian Rhodes:   http://www.ondamar.demon.co.uk/schemes/trz/3m.htm   which contains specs for a number of 3 manual tracker organs of fewer than 13 speaking stops. I would love to have a bunch of ranks around with = which to test out some of these proposals. Of course, VOICING would be = extremely important in these cases.   Randall Dyer graciously sent me a packet of information in response to an inquiry about the spec of an organ I saw on his website. In the packet = was a spec for a 3 manual organ that utilized some judicious unification.   Anyway, I look forward to some suggestions.   Thanks, Keith    
(back) Subject: Re: new topic From: <AGODRDANB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:49:14 EDT   Avery interesting idea, that certain denomanations tend to choose = certain builders. I can remember that A LOT of the RCC in and around Peoria had nice little Hinners, and the Cathedral (RC) in Peoria had a very = nice 3M Hinners. But looking back it may have been influence in = the Diocese, as well as geogrophy, (I believe hinners were made in = or near Peoria. When I was a student at Illinois Weslyan, in Bloomington we = had two tiny practice rooms that had wonderful little Hinners = tracker instruments. Regards to all! Dr. Dan  
(back) Subject: Multiple organists, one console From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:48:43 -0500   This is for you who work larger churches where there is more than one paid organist, such as a principal and an associate or the like.   What is the general division of labor, i.e., who plays on which Sunday, or for prelude/postlude, at your church? What has seemed to be the optimal protocol that has worked for divvying up the duties?   Just curious.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Organs and denominations From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:57:32 -0500   I don't know - it seemed to me that in the South Presbyterians used to lean heavily toward Mollers, and Methodists to Hammonds. Because the Episcopalians worshipped good taste, they would have some eclectic brand in the better churches.     (The local Methodist church still has its Hammond from before I was born, but is about to get something new.)     Glenda Sutton   gksjd85@direcway.com        
(back) Subject: Re: new topic From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:22:24 -0400   I know Kilgen did a lot for RC churches. . . I heard a 'rumour' floating around that they offered discounts to the RC churches? What loud organs they are, too     Nick     On 4/28/05, AGODRDANB@aol.com <AGODRDANB@aol.com> wrote: > Avery interesting idea, that certain denomanations tend to choos= e=20 >=20 > certain builders. > I can remember that A LOT of the RCC in and around Peoria had= =20 > nice little Hinners, and the Cathedral (RC) in Peoria had a ver= y=20 > nice =20 > 3M Hinners. But looking back it may have been influence in t= he=20 >=20 > Diocese, as well as geogrophy, (I believe hinners were made in = or > =20 > near Peoria. > =20 > When I was a student at Illinois Weslyan, in Bloomington we h= ad=20 >=20 > two tiny practice rooms that had wonderful little Hinners track= er=20 >=20 > instruments. > Regards to all! > Dr. Dan >=20 >=20   --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs and denominations From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:26:04 -0500   How 'bout organs based on region? Boston=3D large concentration of Skinners, Steeres etc. Hartford=3D Austins, Maryland=3D Mollers I would assume that Quebec and surrounding is choked with Casavants and Orgues Letourneau Ltee   NFR     On 4/28/05, Glenda <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote: > I don't know - it seemed to me that in the South Presbyterians used to > lean heavily toward Mollers, and Methodists to Hammonds. Because the > Episcopalians worshipped good taste, they would have some eclectic brand > in the better churches. >=20 > =20 >=20 > (The local Methodist church still has its Hammond from before I was > born, but is about to get something new.) >=20 > =20 >=20 > Glenda Sutton >=20 > gksjd85@direcway.com >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20   --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: denomination pianos & organs From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:45:50 EDT   In a message dated 4/28/2005 5:12:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, stevebest@usadatanet.net writes:   I don't know about this -- but I recall one Lutheran church that, when asked for practice time for a talented young person, responded "Our organ is a liturgical organ, not a practice organ."       An Independence, Missouri-Synod Lutheran church responded in the same = manner when asked by an ELCA Lutheran if a classroom piano could be used for lunch-time voice lesson rehearsal 2 days each week. There must be = "denominational" pianos, as well as organs!!!    
(back) Subject: Re: Blue organs From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:22:28 EDT   =20 In a message dated 4/28/2005 2:40:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20 kzrev@rr1.net writes:   There was a British organ on ebay a while back that had been painted (casework) a bright turquoise color; it had highly decorated fa=E7ade pipes, as well, in complementary colors. But I can't imagine why the church ever painted it that color!       They chose a blue that matched a blue in their stained glass. That's why.  
(back) Subject: Re: Demessieux From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:32:51 EDT   you go first Jonathan. then us lemmings will follow. :-) dale in Florida  
(back) Subject: Re: new topic From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:55:48 -0500   Although Mr. Kilgen was a Protestant, the firm did indeed sell many organs to Roman Catholic churches. I suspect that the "discounts" were a typical piece of Kilgen BS and that they were offered to churches of all denominations. It is said there was a revolving bookcase in the reception room at the Kilgen workshop, which Gene Kilgen would turn round to reveal = a bar when a Roman Catholic or Episcopal priest was being entertained, but would be hidden from view by the bookcase when clergy of less broad-minded denominations were present!   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: new topic     I know Kilgen did a lot for RC churches. . . I heard a 'rumour' floating around that they offered discounts to the RC churches? What loud organs they are, too        
(back) Subject: RE: Howard Seat From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:56:05 -0400   I love 'em and would play on one every chance I get -- if it is if = proper working order   Tom Hoehn, Organist Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes, Ellenton, FL (substitute - 4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/9?- = Rodgers/Ruffati/Wicks) Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOUploads/   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:16 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Howard Seat >=20 >=20 > Some of you folk that have used 'em, how are Howard seats? Ever used = on > anything but theatre organ? Do they swivel? Is the idea to make it > easier to play far reaching pedals? >=20 > Scott Foppiano, I know you've used one........I've been enjoying your = CD > of the Detroit Senate Wurlitzer.........another fine recording, btw! >=20 > Dennis Steckley >=20 > "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20 >=20      
(back) Subject: Re: tongues of flame(liturgical dancers) From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:03:40 -0400   C or M wrote:   >He wore an ephod, which was a Priestly garment.   Thanks for the enlightenment. Where did the idea come from about David dancing naked before the LORD?   ><silly attempt to be ontopic> >I suppose "linen" is "organic" ><\silliness>   Thanks, that was my intent (8-P   Cole Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005      
(back) Subject: My Old Flame From: "Dennis Steckley" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:14:02 -0500   Randy-I downloaded a midi file of it some months ago on my other computer....want it? Dennis Steckley For I am possessed of a cat, surpassing in beauty, from whom I take occasion to bless Almighty God.  
(back) Subject: A Charlie Chaplin Tribute with Dennis James From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:20:42 EDT   Greetings:   I just picked up a flyer from the Marion (OH) Palace Theatre, a true = Eberson atmospheric gem seating about 1700 people.   The flyer advertises Dennis James accompanying two Chaplin featurettes: A Dog's Life (1918) and The Pilgrim (1923). He will be playing the = Wurlitzer 3/10 which was formerly owned by Al & Betty Mason.   The movies will be shown at the Marion Palace Theatre Sunday, May 22 at 2 =   PM. Tickets are $8.00 each. Call (740)383.2101 for more information.   Musically, Stan Krider    
(back) Subject: Re: My Old Flame From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:31:11 -0400   What's a midi file, exactly? Sorry, I'm not entirely computer literate.   Randy     On Apr 28, 2005, at 11:14 PM, Dennis Steckley wrote:   > =A0Randy=97I downloaded a midi file of it some months ago on my other=20=   > computer=85=85..want it? > > =A0 > > Dennis Steckley > > For I am possessed of a cat, surpassing in beauty, from whom I take=20 > occasion to bless Almighty God. > > =A0  
(back) Subject: Tough material From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:31:54 -0400   > > Well finally someone fills us in on the corrective action done to > eliminate customer complaints. Now if someone would only get a handle > on the use of some product (other than Perflex) to replace lambskin, > that would last 100 years we might have something. It is obvious that > building pipe organs is labor intensive but there must be a way that > this can be reduced by the introduction of more intensive > electrical/electronic action/modular building, etc.etc. Wood is good > within pipes but I don;t think that it is necesarily great in actions, > whether it be keying, stops or wind lines.   Well, as far as materials go, Polylon, and some modern variations on it, are pretty darn near perfect. It does not have the porosity of chrome-tanned leather, it has the potential to last 100 years, and the PVC glue used to attach it can actually be re-glued to. We have some polylon that is pushing 35 years old that looks like the day it went in! The nice thing about polylon is that even though small pinholes develop on corners and such, the leaks plug up with dirt and they are good to go.   The one drawback is that since there is a grain, it is a little trickier to get enough bag in the pouches, but is by no means impossible, or even hard once you have a few under your belt. I didn't find it necessary to increase the punching size over leather to get enough bag, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt. Polylon is ideal for square-drop primaries as well. Earlier today, I put down primary pouches on a 8 stage swell engine in polylon. The stuff I use is very thin and deep purple in color.   One more word of warning, it is nearly impossible to just punch pouches out of the stuff with just a punch and a punching pad, as the stuff just sort of flexes into the punch... I've found that putting a few layers of old paper under the cloth, or even pizza box cardboard, makes the material punch much easier (and cleaner).   As far as building long-lasting chests of wood goes, I think the Hook, Hutchings, Skinner, Austin, Casavant, etc.... chests have proven the longevity capabilities of wood construction. Austin and Casavant qualify as modular as far as I am concerned, and Skinner chests are made to be rebuilt.   - Nate    
(back) Subject: Re: new topic From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:02:38 -0700 (PDT)   Austin-Pr EMS/AS-EC/Pr Cassavant-Catholic/EC/Meth Wicks-Bap/Meth Ruffatti--RC/ /Pres Kilgen-RC Schantz-Meth   GB <gblack@ocslink.com> wrote: HI list, Does it appear that different denominations go with a particular builder? For example: Hinners built a lot of organs, it seems, for Catholic churches etc. See what happens with this thread. Gary     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: When is a pipe organnot a pipe organ-Wurlitzer From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:49:07 EDT   In addition to its well known theatre organs, Wurlitzer built pipe = organs for churches, residences and funeral chapels. I played a gem of a Wurlitzer in the Crematory Chapel of Forest Lawn Cemetery, Buffalo New York for the 2004 OHS convention. Check out the 2004 Organ handbook for details.   Justin  
(back) Subject: Re: new topic From: <Joshwwhite@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:50:15 EDT   In a message dated 4/29/2005 12:03:16 AM Central Standard Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes: This really is an interesting thread, but I honestly cannot see how one could "stereotype" certain denominations to lean towards certain = builders. Surely this is purely a regional issue. You have left out Moller, Reuter = and others. Maybe I do not understand the point of this thread, however, if = any solid figures on this issue are available, I would certainly like to see = them!   Austin-Pr EMS/AS-EC/Pr Cassavant-Catholic/EC/Meth Wicks-Bap/Meth Ruffatti--RC/ /Pres Kilgen-RC Schantz-Meth   GB <gblack@ocslink.com> wrote:   HI list, Does it appear that different denominations go with a = particular builder? For example: Hinners built a lot of organs, it seems, for Catholic churches etc. See what happens with this thread. Gary              
(back) Subject: Re: Demessieux From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:05:36 -0700   got your diving gear ready?   <g>   Keys4bach@aol.com wrote:   > you go first Jonathan. > > > then us lemmings will follow. > > :-) > > dale in Florida       -- Jonathan Orwig Evensong Music, Media and Graphics New Organ Music http://www.evensongmusic.net