PipeChat Digest #5305 - Friday, April 29, 2005
 
Re: Blue organs
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Tough material
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Who else is continuing ed. this fall?
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
How many ranks before a Wurlitzer becomes an organ?
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Tough material
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Denominational Organs
  by "Jon Kroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Re: Who else is continuing ed. this fall?
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: How many ranks before a Wurlitzer becomes an organ?
  by "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Blue organs
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Ailments and malmots
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Who else is continuing ed. this fall?
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Aarnoud de Groen in "recital" on Organs and Organists Online EKLEKTIKA th
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Ailments and malmots
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Ailments and malmots
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Ailments and malmots
  by "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au>
wrong spelling----- Ailments and malmots
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Unequal temperaments
  by "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au>
Richard Haffer Obituary [x-posted]
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: tongues of flame(liturgical dancers)
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Northeast Middle School organ, Reading PA
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Well temperaments
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Re: Unequal temperaments
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Blue organs From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:07:07 -0400   Gosh, I had forgotten what a gorgeous Organ that is. Guy Bovet played it = in what was, if I correctly remember, a combined Region 1 and 2 = convention long years ago. Many of us were hearing for the first time = the Trois Preludes Hambourgeois, and I will always remember the moment = when it gradually becomes apparent that we are about to hear Fur Elise. = The audience totally lost it, erupting in hysterical laughter. There was = a more subdued reaction, limited to a sudden intake of air, when, as an = unannounced encore began with the opening notes of Tristan, I think we = were all wondering how the temperament would react. It's fifth comma = meantone, and actually, it worked quite well. I had also forgotten how = beautiful the Organ looked in its setting.   Thanks for bringing it up.   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: N. Russotto=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Blue organs     The Organ, a Fisk, can be found at http://www.cbfisk.com Click = Instruments, and then scroll down to Opus 84, which is located at Mt. = Holyoke College, Abbey Chapel. I am told that it is supposed to be = Italian, but the Mixtures break backwards.=20     NFR   =20 On 4/28/05, ProOrgo53@aol.com <ProOrgo53@aol.com> wrote:=20 In a message dated 4/28/2005 2:40:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, = kzrev@rr1.net writes: There was a British organ on ebay a while back that had been = painted=20 (casework) a bright turquoise color; it had highly decorated = fa=E7ade pipes, as well, in complementary colors. But I can't imagine why = the church ever painted it that color!   They chose a blue that matched a blue in their stained glass. That's = why.       --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut=20 Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Tough material From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:50:10 -0400   Dear Jim, When I was in the work force, I ran into a product called silicone rubber. This stuff could be had with fabric embedded in it and, according = to the guy I was talking to, lasted indefinitely. You could get it in any thickness and it was really tough. Anyone have experience with using that product.??? Worth a go from what I understand>I believe that CHR made it = and some company in Connecticut. Paul   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Tough material     > > On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:31:54 -0400 Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> > writes: > > > Well, as far as materials go, Polylon, and some modern > > variations > > on it, are pretty darn near perfect. It does not have the porosity > > of > > chrome-tanned leather, it has the potential to last 100 years, > > > Nathan and Listers: > > We have made a good deal of money in recent years replacing torn polylon > in Moller Organs. Toward the end they were using quite a bit of it in > rebuild work. We have encountered it in swell shade motors and > primaries, switches, and power pneumatics or various sizes. > > Polylon work-hardens much like metal does. Eventually it just plain rips > at the point where the majority of the flexing occurs. What you are = left > with is a polylon covered gluing surface which is not pleasant to clean > up. > > We have also encountered the use of heavy latex in swell motors. (This > may just be a heavier version of perflex.) This material just plain > disintegrates. Take note that the boxes of "safes", "johnson > covers",(call them what you will), at the drug stores are date encoded. > Same material, different use. > > > Jim > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Who else is continuing ed. this fall? From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT)   I recall a few weeks ago someone mentioning their desire to continue their = education this fall. Who else on the list is going back to school this fall, at any degree = level? What were your choices? If you have more than one, what challenges = are you facing in your decision making process? Maybe we can share = challenges, off list. TDH   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
(back) Subject: How many ranks before a Wurlitzer becomes an organ? From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:10:42 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Now this pipe v. non-pipes thing is quite interesting.   If 3/8 Wurlitzer has approximately 83 pipes per unit (yes...I know it can be more), then it has around 664 pipes.   If the same organ has the following:-   A piano A Xylophone Sleigh Bells Cathedral Chimes Chrysoglot Marimba Harp Cow Bell Car Horn A steam whistle Several non-tuned percussions Cymbals     Now, assuming that a piano has at least three strings to every treble note, and a couple of strings down to the bass notes, and then add all the tuned wood, metal bars, bells, sirens wood blocks, percussion....how many individual non-pipe sound-making devices are there?   I wonder what the ratio works out at.....do we have an organ nut/mathmetician on board?   By using my natty little pocket "Walmart" abacus (made in China of course), I reckon the ratio works out at 7 red balls to 8 white ones, but I did slip on a errant tomato in the produce section of ASDA whilst trying to work it all out, so I could be wrong.   Another puzzle for the purists......   If John Compton invented (?) a Cello register, which used a spinning disc, electric fingering and a real cello string; does it qualify as electrical, digital or authentic?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Daniel Hopkins <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:   > I would think > Which came first > The Chicken or the egg > ( The electronic or the Authentic Pipe Organ)   > But a pipe organ is still a pipe organ if it has > traps like in a wurlitzer. > the determining factor is the initial intention of > the instrument itself.     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Tough material From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:22:39 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   A fascinating thread this......   You'd think, wouldn't you, that when "they" can put a man on the moon, they'd have thought of something which is comparable to sheepskin. I feel so sorry for the sheep, but I'm a sensitive soul.   I reckon organ-builders could benefit from a careful study of my late mother's cooking of turnips.   Once boiled, they had a remarkable resilience to almost anything. They could not be eaten, destroyed by fire or softened by water and yet, retained a certain elasticity under ideal conditions.   I reckon that wafer-thin slices of my mother's boiled turnip; suitably impregnated with the right blend of natural aromatic oils, would outlast anything and even deter mice, voles and possibly even termites.   Regards,   Colin MItchell UK         --- Paul Valtos <chercapa@enter.net> wrote:   > When I was in the work force, I ran into a > product called silicone > rubber.       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Denominational Organs From: "Jon Kroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:11:55 -0500       I hope you didn't attempt to operate any heavy machinery during that sinus headache!     Jon Kroepel     From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Desiree' Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:03 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Denominational Organs     Actually, that list was written late last night during a sinus headache. I knew very well that people would wonder where I got these ideas. As a = matter of fact, I should have put that very disclaimer...we cant say that a particular builder has a predominance in a particular denomination. It's just not do-able. Austin does have somewhere on their website that they = tend to have a lot of Presbyterian Church installations.     One can say that a lot of Catholic Churches do indeed have Wicks or even Kilgens. St Rita here in Chicago has a lovely Kilgen of 39 ranks that they are working fevereshly to get approval to do some restoration work.     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Who else is continuing ed. this fall? From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:15:29 -0400   Master of Arts in Religion, Liturgy and Music Concentration, part-time, = Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia. A two-year course, and I'm about = three years into it. :) Wanted to study with Mark Mummert, the seminary = musician there. Also wanted to better understand liturgy and what the Lutheran church is = all about. If I understand the theology, the history, and the liturgy, then I feel I = can better serve the church as a *church* musician, not as a *performance* musician.   --Shirley   On 29 Apr 2005 at 8:53, Desiree' expounded:   > I recall a few weeks ago someone mentioning their desire to continue > their education this fall. Who else on the list is going back to > school this fall, at any degree level? What were your choices? If you > have more than one, what challenges are you facing in your decision > making process? Maybe we can share challenges, off list. > > TDH > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!        
(back) Subject: Re: How many ranks before a Wurlitzer becomes an organ? From: "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:04:11 -0400   On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:10:42AM -0700, Colin Mitchell wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder what the ratio works out at.....do we have an > organ nut/mathmetician on board? >   Yip, but that problem's been done before:   A fire breaks out in the faculty lounge. The Engineering professor grabs the fire extinguisher, carefully studies the instructions, and squeezes the handle using the optimum amount of material to extinguish the fire, allowing for a 150% safety margin.   Soon after, another fire breaks out. The Mathematics professor looks at the situation carefully rubbing his beard and announces, "This is similar to the problem solved earlier by my distinguised colleague. I leave it as an excercise for the reader."   > If John Compton invented (?) a Cello register, which > used a spinning disc, electric fingering and a real > cello string; does it qualify as electrical, digital > or authentic? >   Yes?   In the '70s there was a doohicky they sold to guitar players called the "Gizmotron" that used a similar principle. There was also the E-bow that used an oscillating magnetic field to do much the same thing, but IIRC you needed to have steel strings.    
(back) Subject: Re: Blue organs From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:59:21 -0400   Of course, the Skinner up front is an interesting instrument too. It is 4= =20 manual and seventysomething ranks. Wm. Baker, a member of PIPORG-L maintain= s=20 it in peak form. The organ is all in one little chamber at stage "altar"=20 right, and to access one division, one must remove all the pipework and=20 windchests from another, which is why the Celesta is not repaired. However,= =20 it does sound quite nice. NFR   On 4/29/05, Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> wrote:=20 >=20 > Gosh, I had forgotten what a gorgeous Organ that is. Guy Bovet played it= =20 > in what was, if I correctly remember, a combined Region 1 and 2 conventio= n=20 > long years ago. Many of us were hearing for the first time the Trois=20 > Preludes Hambourgeois, and I will always remember the moment when it=20 > gradually becomes apparent that we are about to hear Fur Elise. The audie= nce=20 > totally lost it, erupting in hysterical laughter. There was a more subdue= d=20 > reaction, limited to a sudden intake of air, when, as an unannounced enco= re=20 > began with the opening notes of Tristan, I think we were all wondering ho= w=20 > the temperament would react. It's fifth comma meantone, and actually, it= =20 > worked quite well. I had also forgotten how beautiful the Organ looked in= =20 > its setting. > Thanks for bringing it up. > Malcolm Wechsler > www.mander-organs.com <http://www.mander-organs.com/>=20 > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > *From:* N. Russotto <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>=20 > *To:* PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>=20 > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2005 7:01 AM > *Subject:* Re: Blue organs >=20 > The Organ, a Fisk, can be found at http://www.cbfisk.com Click=20 > Instruments, and then scroll down to Opus 84, which is located at Mt.=20 > Holyoke College, Abbey Chapel. I am told that it is supposed to be Italia= n,=20 > but the Mixtures break backwards.=20 > NFR >=20 > On 4/28/05, ProOrgo53@aol.com <ProOrgo53@aol.com> wrote:=20 > >=20 > > In a message dated 4/28/2005 2:40:57 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 > > kzrev@rr1.net writes: > >=20 > > There was a British organ on ebay a while back that had been painted=20 > > (casework) a bright turquoise color; it had highly decorated fa=E7ade > > pipes, as well, in complementary colors. But I can't imagine why the > > church ever painted it that color! > >=20 > > They chose a blue that matched a blue in their stained glass. That's= =20 > > why. > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Nicholas F. Russotto > Somers, Connecticut > Organist, Holy Cross PNCC > Enfield, Connecticut=20 > Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/ >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Ailments and malmots From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:01:55 EDT   Desir'e'e' seems to have a history of disassemblable postings that coincide with episodes of illness, varying from influenza, to sinusitus, = to such Victorian ailments as "The Vapors." During one flareup of animated = discussions, she even requested information regarding established procedures for the disinfection of an organ console. It's good to know that our lot continues = to practice and conduct even when at death's door. I would suggest that we all refrain from posting when we don't feel = well, but I would then have to acknowledge my own ability to be exceptionally stupid and incorrect when in the most robust of (physical) health.  
(back) Subject: Re: Who else is continuing ed. this fall? From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:17:12 -0500   I will be starting at Carthage College in Kenosha WI, where I hope I can eventually study organ and church music.   Jon    
(back) Subject: Aarnoud de Groen in "recital" on Organs and Organists Online EKLEKTIKA this week. From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:58:33 +0300   When we started the site about 9 months ago Dutch organist Aarnoud de = Groen from The Hague was one of the first organists to make a substantial = musical contribution to Organs and Organists Online. I have chosen a varied programme from the mp3 files he has sent us, played with musicianship and style on four interesting organs.   Visit his homepage at http://www.aarnouddegroen.com/ where you can find = more details about Aarnoud, including the organ at the church where he is organist, the Nederlandse Hervormde Bethlehemkerk in The Hague. It is in fact the organ featured on the Organs and Organists Online WELCOME page. http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/   His programme includes music by Bach, the "Festliche Musik alla Handel" by =   Sigfrid Karg-Elert, Joseph Jongen 's "Sonate Eroica" , recorded live in recital and Aarnoud's own lively Fantasy on Psalm 75.   Happy listening!       John Foss   http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/about.htm http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/   Topics of the week : Secret ambitions San Marino Grand Prix How to conquer NATO      
(back) Subject: Re: Ailments and malmots From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:11:43 EDT   Now that Sebastian has mentioned it, How many organists are getting quality sleep? Many aren't, even though they sleep a full eight hours. I thought that too, until I was tested for sleep apnia.The initial test showed that my windway stopped up 54 times an hour, This is severe sleep apnia. I didn't even know how close to not breathing ever again I was. The problem is, you don't know you have it. The other nasty secret is most people have it in various stages and don't know it. Most insurances will pay for the machine so you can sleep. Cost about $1,000. Knowing you will wake up in the morning again, priceless   Windway, sort of on topic, and breathing musical and organic.   Ron Severin   For your continued health walk a mile or two a day, 20 to 45 minutes. Sleep Apnia can cause weight gain, diabetes, heart attacks, strokes complete debilitation, and death. I thought of Bud on this one as he is four years younger than I am. It saps your energy and your will to be able to function.  
(back) Subject: Re: Ailments and malmots From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:46:26 EDT   Apnia? how about getting tonsils taken out=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dat 49 years old....well = tomorrow. my doc refuses to call it apnea in order that i may not be rear ended by insurance companies in the future. God bless Ambien and a clear conscience. laughing and ducking dale in Florida  
(back) Subject: Re: Ailments and malmots From: "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:16:38 +0800   Has this become a medical column with influenza and sleep apnoea etc., = etc.? I know we talk about organs but what organs? Lungs, noives? What? Oh = musical organs! Perhaps some of the discussion should go in a medical column 'cos it's of little interest (musical) organ wise. Come on folks! I feel particularly well at present and my (pipe and electornics organs - 2 of them) are performing well too. All organs on the go! Bob Elms   ----- Original Message ----- From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Ailments and malmots     > Now that Sebastian has mentioned it, > How many organists are getting quality sleep? Many aren't, > even though they sleep a full eight hours. I thought that > too, until I was tested for sleep apnia.       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 27/04/2005    
(back) Subject: wrong spelling----- Ailments and malmots From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:25:05 EDT   more recently it has become a list of misspelled words........or all sorts = in all sorts of places. So, Jonathan, how goes the Demi? Is it time for me to order it? Will it sound grand on my disastrous Austin? dale in Florida  
(back) Subject: Unequal temperaments From: "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:51:57 +0800   Perhaps the following from an article on tuning can be some sort of answer =   to Ron Severin's post on "well temper" (not sure what "well temper" is. I can't find it in any references.   Bob Elms.   The problem with a major scale, minor scale, or any combination of scales which have unequal intervals is that musical melodies cannot be transposed =   to a different tonic. For instance, since a major scale is defined to have =   exact ratios of frequencies 9:8, 5:4, 4:3, 3:2, 5:3, 2:1, etc., changing = the tonic from a C to a D (using a C with a frequency of 264 Hz) in a major scale would result in the following difficulty.           note C D E F G A B C' D' Key of C 264 297 330 352 396 440 495 528 594 Key of D &; 297 334 371 396 445 495 557 594         Here, while D, G, B, and D' have the same frequency in both keys (and E = and A are close), F and C' are off by quite a bit. Having the capability to = play a given piece of music in either the key of C or the key of D would thus require separate keyboard keys or frets on a fretted instrument for the "same" note. As a result, it would not be possible to play a tune a fixed number of steps lower, because this transposition would require = frequencies which the instrument was incapable of playing. The equal temperament scale =   was introduced to avoid this serious musical problem (Culver 1956, pp. 132-135). Steinhaus (1983, p. 299) cites the organist Andreas Werckmeister =   as the inventor of the tempered scale in 1691. A nice discussion of the historical origin of equal temperament can be found in Levenson (1997).         -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 27/04/2005    
(back) Subject: Richard Haffer Obituary [x-posted] From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:43:49 -0700   The Baltimore Sun ran a really nice obituary for Richard Haffer. (Thanks to Jack Clotworthy for sending me a copy.)   I have scanned and reformatted it for easy on-screen reading [from four short columns to two long ones] and have uploaded it to my web site. Here is the link:   http://www.137.com/haffer.jpg   (If someone could post this to the theatre organ lists, I'd appreciate it. Thx)   ~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ Charlie Lester      
(back) Subject: Re: tongues of flame(liturgical dancers) From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:45:38 -0400     >On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 11:03:40PM -0400, Cole wrote: > > C or M wrote: > > > > >He wore an ephod, which was a Priestly garment. > > > > Thanks for the enlightenment. Where did the idea come from about David > > dancing naked before the LORD?   C or M wrote again: >'cuz "Naked Richard Gere" puts more (mostly female, a few male) fannies >in the seats than "Richard Gere in an Ephod" does?   Richard Gere as David wasn't naked as far as I can remember. I do remember =   that his dance was rather spastic, but he wasn't nude, and neither was he in an ephod from what my Bible dictionary tells me.   Cole Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005      
(back) Subject: Northeast Middle School organ, Reading PA From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:04:43 -0400   A flier came today announcing the rededication of the Evelyn Snyder = Memorial Organ at Northeast Middle School, Reading PA, on Sunday afternoon 15 May = at 3 p.m.. One might wonder if the place was once a high school but later turned into a middle school. There is no comment whatsoever as to what = the organ is. Anyone able to report on it? Just curious.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Well temperaments From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:09:39 -0400   Bob Elms wrote of unequal temperaments (tomorrow according to the time=20 stamp on his post--must be from "Down Unda"). I am curious if anyone has=20 heard about or tried the so-called "New Bach" Temperament espoused by Dr.=20 Bradley Lehman?   In my use of Hauptwerk, the MIDI implemented software virtual pipe organ=20 project by Martin Dyde, and through the Hauptwerk Forum, I have learned of= =20 the new temperament; and with a software tool from Martin D=FCmig (a Forum= =20 member) I have tuned three of my pipe organ sample sets to the new=20 temperament. Previously I had been using the Kellner temperament after=20 briefly trying and subsequently discarding the Werckmeister III=20 temperament. I have definitely arrived at the apprehension that the equal=20 tempered system for tuning does not fulfill my aural needs.   Dr. Bradley makes some intriguing assertions as to how he "discovered" this= =20 temperament scheme from the original title page of the Well-Tempered=20 Clavier Book I. What anyone may think of his ideas won't matter much to me= =20 as I have listened and decided to my own satisfaction that the New Bach=20 Temperament sounds great, but I am still interested in others' opinions.   I am posting this topic as a point of discussion about the New Bach=20 Temperament, not the merits of Hauptwerk which, by the way, is better than= =20 just great; it's swell!   Cole Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005      
(back) Subject: Re: Unequal temperaments From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:37:05 -0400         On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:51:57 +0800 "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au> writes: > Perhaps the following from an article on tuning can be some sort of > answer > to Ron Severin's post on "well temper" (not sure what "well temper" > is. I > can't find it in any references.         Bob:   Try this:   http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/meantone.html     Jim