PipeChat Digest #5144 - Sunday, February 6, 2005
 
Charpentier Te deum
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Titanic organ
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill - or INJURED
  by "Staffan Thuringer" <staffan_thuringer@yahoo.com.au>
Illness
  by "Randall Smith" <lrlr@knology.net>
Tar=F4 por telefone com INES
  by "Monica" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill
  by "William J Morton" <wjmwjm@asisna.com>
Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: Illness
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
All Please Read - Important Information
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments
  by "Richard Ditewig" <rwditewig@msn.com>
Re: Cleaning keyboards
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Charpentier Te deum
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
 

(back) Subject: Charpentier Te deum From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:48:45 +0200   There is a fabulous performance of the Charpentier Te deum by 15 year old Jared Grenz on trumpet accompanied by his father at the organ : http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/composer_index.htm#charpentier I expect Tim would put you in the direction of the score. It may well be = one of his arrangements - anyway, if your problem hasn't been solved don't hesitate to ask us at O & O O.   "Pepehomer" I'm looking for a good version of the Charpentier Pr=E9lude du = Te Deum for solo organ   John Foss http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/      
(back) Subject: Re: Titanic organ From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:56:19 +0200   If you come to Greece on holiday I am sure you could arrange to visit the wreck of the Brittanic and search for the pipes yourself. It's not in very =   deep water, and there are some dream islands nearby. And the Ouzo, lamb roasting over an open grill, sun, sea ......   John Foss   http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/   "An 11-man Greek salvage team has found the wreck of the British World War = I steamer "Brittanic", sunk by German submarines off the coast of Attica. According to an exclusive by the Greek TV station Antenna, the team, which =   has been searching for the wreckage for the past two years, found the = wreck in the open seas off the island of Kea, east of Attica. The "Brittanic", a =   sister ship of the equally unlucky Titanic, was torpedoed by German submarines on November 21, 1916, as it was ferrying wounded from the battlefields. Fifty-six people aboard went down with the ship. Attempts to =   locate the wreck began afresh in 1976, when famed explorer Jacques = Cousteau collaborated with Greek divers and salvage experts to find the exact location. The team is expected to take underwater footage of the wreck in the coming days."     Jan Nijhuis wrote : A curious thought occured to me just now. Perhaps the pipe organ was never installed, but the salvage crew did find pipe organ parts. If these parts were not from pre-installation staging or =   the ship's organ, could the ship have been transporting foreign parts for another (land-locked) organ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill - or INJURED From: "Staffan Thuringer" <staffan_thuringer@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:16:57 +1100 (EST)   Dear List, I usually find that focussing on the playing make any symptoms temporarily = disappear. But the story I want to tell is something that happened to me = over 10 years ago. I went skiing at Mount Buller (three hours drive from = Melbourne, Australia) and managed to have a fall and fracture my left = hand, the scafoid bone. Managed to drive home, had X-ray the next day, and = then the arm in plaster for 8 weeks. I was determined not to let this stop = me from playing the organ. Most Sundays I play a 2 manual HN&B organ (St = Andrews, Footscray), ir worked quite well to just play with the feet and = the right hand. The only thing I needed help with was to open the console. = The hardest thing to cope with was all the comments from my choir members = (none who had ever been on a snow ski) about the dangers of skiing.. My other church job, the Swedish Church in Melbourne, once a month, was = trickier. The small organ (Smenge 1984, 4 stops) has no pedals. So I had = to get the assistance from my youngest daughter, the 14yo, to play the = left hand part in the hymns. (she wasn't confident enough to play both = hands..) Worked all right. At the time I was also played piano once a week in the Swedish Restaurant = AKVAVIT at Southgate, accompanying a singer. I attached a little stick to = the plaster, and could play the left hand part reasonably well. I had to = look at the stick all the time, to ensure it hit the right note , but = since I playe it all from memory, this wasn't a big problem. So, there is always a way... Regards Staffan       --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.  
(back) Subject: Illness From: "Randall Smith" <lrlr@knology.net> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 09:05:10 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)   Several years ago I had a wedding I will never forget.=0D After the rehearsal, I was invited to the Rehearsal Dinner at the local Country Club.=0D During the dinner, as the salads were served, the lady next to me said "I= 'm not eating my salad. It tastes warm."=0D =0D That was Friday night. Sunday morning as I got ready for church, I "felt sick."=0D Rehearsing with the choir, I told them if I left during church it was because I was feeling sick.=0D I made it through the service. About 2:00 that Sunday I became VERY sic= k!=0D =0D The next morning, the church secretary called and asked me if I was sick= =2E=20 How did she know?=0D She had received a call that morning informing her that EVERYONE at the wedding rehearsal (35-40 people) had food poisoning. Everyone but the l= ady next to me who did not eat her salad!=0D Many of the people had driven from out of state, and had to stop at local hospitals and be admitted!=0D =0D I was out of work for an entire week, and lost 15 pounds. It is without doubt the sickest I have ever been. The Country Club had left the salad dressing setting out all afternoon, giving us all food poisoning.=0D =0D Randall Smith
(back) Subject: Tar=F4 por telefone com INES From: "Monica" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:35:16 -0200   Centenas de pessoas j=E1 se consultaram com ela!!! - Atende ao publico deste 1960, sempre foi destaque em todas as feiras = esot=E9ricas que fez.   - Leituras de cartas pelo telefone, R$50,00 reais a consulta (CONFIRMA A = ESPIRITUALIDADE E A VIDENCIA E S=D3 PAGUE DEPOIS DA CONSULTA). Com muita honestidade em tudo que sempre fez Voce vai se surpreender com ela!   - Atende das 2:00pm as 2:00 am   Telefone: ddd-13-3507-4524 Celular: 11-9768-7760   O pagamento deve ser efetuado na: Caixa Economica Federal - 0104 agencia: 2158 conta poupan=E7a:30432-5 em nome de: Aparecida Ines Gomes CPF:043.797.778-12  
(back) Subject: Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill From: "William J Morton" <wjmwjm@asisna.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:34:21 -0800   At 03:29 PM 2/5/2005 -0800, you wrote: >To put this on topic... >What should I use and what should'tnt I use to >disinfect/clean the console of germs?     Desiree--can't say what you SHOULD use, but pouring boiling water over the =   manuals is NOT advised, although it would be effective! <g>   --- [Certified Virus free by ASISNA Mail Services. www.asisna.com ]    
(back) Subject: Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:45:49 -0600   You don't want to spray anything on or near the console, as it would get onto the contacts and cause dead notes. Probably a cloth dipped in = DILUTED Lysol in warm water and then wrung out (i.e. damp NOT wet) would be as = good as anything, and wouldn't do any harm to the instrument.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Morton" <wjmwjm@asisna.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill     > At 03:29 PM 2/5/2005 -0800, you wrote: > >To put this on topic... > >What should I use and what should'tnt I use to > >disinfect/clean the console of germs? > > > Desiree--can't say what you SHOULD use, but pouring boiling water over = the > manuals is NOT advised, although it would be effective! <g>      
(back) Subject: Re: Illness From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:54:54 -0000   Speaking of being distressingly inaccommodated (which we weren't, of = course; but then, I can usually be guaranteed to reduce most things to = their lowest common denominator) ...   One of our local country parish churches (which shall remain nameless as = far as this story goes) is the most beautiful early Norman building (on = Saxon foundations) with the Tudor porch as the most recent addition - = so, for our cousins whose main problem in life seems to be the acoustic = difficulties associated with thick-pile carpet and lined satin drapes, = this might come as an eye-opener.   Well, as I prepared for a wedding, one couldn't help but notice a lady = (in usual glad attire) wandering round the building opening every door = and cupboard. The (lady) churchwarden asked her 'what was up' and the = conversation went along the lines of .......... I'm looking for the = 'Girls' Powder Room'!   On hearing the reply the lady immediately sat down.   But, ....... later in the service, ........ was obviously in greater = need than she had thought and we had the embarrassment of pews of people = having to stand up as she wended her way to the main door; which opened = with it's usual loud squeaking, and shut with it's usual loud clang.   Then we could all follow her progress, over the incumbent's prayers, as = her heels clattered along the stone path; the un-lady-like swearing and = mutterings as she descended the grassy bank round to the back of the = church; the conversation of 'excuse-me's' & 'don't you worry, love' as = she disturbed a band of hikers who were quietly enjoying their lunchtime = sandwiches, then more key-turnings and squeaky-hinges as she gained = access to the crypt - where the chemical toilet is kept !     -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------   I did have one occasion where, giving a concert, I 'soldiered-on' = .......... but then over-estimated (even) my substantial resources and = tried to drive home afterwards. Realising I was NOT going to make it, I diverted to a Police Station = which I parked in front of before passing-out, hand on horn .......... = waking-up in hospital.   Still, better than waking-up in Intensive Care; or not waking-up at all = ...........   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a relatively fit and healthy musicman - and off to the local = health club for a swim and a sit in the Jacuzzi - It's a hard life, = ...... but then, I'm up to it! ]   ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randall Smith=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Illness
(back) Subject: All Please Read - Important Information From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:27:21 -0600   Some of you will be receiving this posting several times since you subscribe to more than one list at PipeChat.org - I'm sorry to fill up your mailboxes with it but I need to circulate this to ALL the public lists at PipeChat.   This morning, someone "spoofed" this address, the main administration address and was able to get the PipeChat list spammed. In Portuguese no less! We have been working very hard to avoid something like this happening but it did. Over the last few months I have implemented some filtering to keep stuff like this from hitting the lists but I guess it is time to upgrade that filtering. But to do so I also need to make some changes in the way the list server is connected to the rest of the Net. These are "Domain Name Server" changes that might cause a few problems with connectivity between the mail servers you use and the PipeChat list server. As I make these changes it might take a day or two for them to "prorogate" around the rest of the Internet. This might cause your trying to send a posting to the list that is either "bounced" or is delayed. All of these problems will straighten themselves out within a few days. If a posting you send to the list isn't bounced but doesn't show up immediately please wait a few days before resending it. Mail Server usually will keep trying to send a piece of email for up to 3 days before giving up.   At the same time I am going to be upgrading the filtering on the mail server here that receives the mail for the list server. This might be where we run into some problems. Up until know I have had some basic filters in place but I will now be stating to get a little more "aggressive" in the filtering of emails coming into the mail server. If for some reason a posting you try to send to the list is rejected by one of the filters I need to know about it. But since my personal address also goes through the same mail server you can't even contact me that way. So I have set-up an "outside" PipeChat Administration address which is <pipechat-admin@earthlink.net>. This address will not be affected by any filtering I have installed here and should be able to be used to contact us if you run into problems with rejected mail because of one of the filters. This "outside" address will only be good for the duration of the upcoming changes. Once things are running smoothly I will delete that address.   At the same time I have asked Tim Bovard, who is my Co-Administrator of the PipeChat list, to assume that same position for the other lists that are running on this server. And in view of that there will not be separate administration or owner addresses for any of the lists. The only address that will be used to communicate with us will be the address this is sent from - <admin@pipechat.org>.   Actually, these changes above were going to happen soon anyway but this "spamming" has stepped up the timetable for my implementing them. We have been frustrated for some time with the list server software and have been looking into getting a new server package that will give us much more flexibility and many more features. The software that the list is currently running on is something I picked 8 years ago when PipeChat was somewhat in its infancy. It has worked OK for some period of time but it lacks many features that we can use including the ease of administration of the lists. It also lacks some features that you as our subscribers miss such as being able to set yourself to NOMAIL rather than having to unsubscribe and then resubscribe while you are on vacation, etc. The current software also lacks any way of automatically archiving the postings to the lists. These are features that we desperately need for the list at PipeChat.org. Since we are still in the exploratory stage of getting new list server software I can't go into more details quite yet about that but will keep you informed as that process progresses.   I'm sorry that this posting is so long but I felt that I needed to cover a lot of material and as I said at the beginning this "spamming" of the PipeChat list this morning pushed me to start to implement these changes.   Please save this posting for your reference especially for the "outside" administration address. We will keep you informed as things happen.   Tim and I Thank You for being our guests and friends on the lists at PipeChat.org.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Flu Medication???? Playing while ill From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:38:22 -0500   Never use any strong chemical cleaners/polishes or solvents near = keyboards. Especially plastic covered naturals and sharps.   Most kitchen cleaners and even lemon oil contains strong solvents that = will turn plastic keys into shrivelled up junk it a few years after it is applied. = The damage does not appear for some time and you won't realize it until all = the plastic is destroyed.   I'm sure many of you have come across warped stop tablets, key tops and = labels that have self destructed on an otherwise beautifully well kept shiny = console.   Guess what happened??   A damp cloth used often works best to clean any keyboard. And I do wish more of you WOULD clean your keyboards occasionally ! Yech!   And I think I'm a slob!   Nelson Denton Pipe Organ Builder And re-covered of many a good keyboard :-(((    
(back) Subject: Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments From: "Richard Ditewig" <rwditewig@msn.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 13:38:42 -0800   he mention of trumpettes and trompettes reminds me of the recording that = G. Donald Harrison, tonal director of Aeolian Skinner, made. It was = Volume I in the Aeolian Skinner series. =20   when demonstrating reed stops, mention was made of an 8' Trompette on a = Swell division of on organ. when 16' and 4' pitches (Bombarde and = Clairon) were added the result was " a broad band of fiery tone".     Richard Ditewig
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning keyboards From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:52:47 -0500   I can vouch for Nelson's advice, - to clean a keyboard it is best to use only a damp cloth, - but do it often! Our old Bishop organ back home had ivory and ebony keys, it lasted for One hundred and seventy years!   This organ has been relocated and when I went to see it a couple of years back, they had replaced the keyboard with brown and off white wood keys, - =   I wonder if they will last as long!   A damp cloth is all you need!   Bob Conway   At 04:38 PM 2/6/2005, Nelson Denton wrote: >Never use any strong chemical cleaners/polishes or solvents near >keyboards. Especially plastic covered naturals and sharps. > >Most kitchen cleaners and even lemon oil contains strong solvents that >will turn plastic keys into shrivelled up junk it a few years after it is =   >applied. The damage does not appear for some time and you won't realize = it >until all the plastic is destroyed. > >I'm sure many of you have come across warped stop tablets, key tops and >labels that have self destructed on an otherwise beautifully well kept >shiny console. > >Guess what happened?? > >A damp cloth used often works best to clean any keyboard. >And I do wish more of you WOULD clean your keyboards occasionally ! Yech! > >And I think I'm a slob! > >Nelson Denton >Pipe Organ Builder >And re-covered of many a good keyboard :-((( > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:55:36 -0500   Don't forget:   " a cohesive buukay (sic) of tone"   and   "the oboe is interesting"     Sometimes words fail!!       Jim       On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 13:38:42 -0800 "Richard Ditewig" <rwditewig@msn.com> writes: he mention of trumpettes and trompettes reminds me of the recording that G. Donald Harrison, tonal director of Aeolian Skinner, made. It was Volume I in the Aeolian Skinner series.   when demonstrating reed stops, mention was made of an 8' Trompette on a Swell division of on organ. when 16' and 4' pitches (Bombarde and Clairon) were added the result was " a broad band of fiery tone".     Richard Ditewig
(back) Subject: Re: Charpentier Te deum From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:37:06 +0000   On 2/6/05 10:48 AM, "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> wrote:   > There is a fabulous performance of the Charpentier Te deum by 15 year = old > Jared Grenz on trumpet accompanied by his father at the organ   What an exceedingly beautiful thing to happen between a father and his = son.   And now you've sent it into MY dining room! Thank you VERY much!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:42:04 -0600   I have the record, haven't heard it in decades, and no longer own a = turntable. How fiery are the reeds? Do they hold up after all these = years?   Bob Lind ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Ditewig=20 To: pipechat=20 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Studies in Tone-The King of Instruments     he mention of trumpettes and trompettes reminds me of the recording = that G. Donald Harrison, tonal director of Aeolian Skinner, made. It = was Volume I in the Aeolian Skinner series. =20   when demonstrating reed stops, mention was made of an 8' Trompette on = a Swell division of on organ. when 16' and 4' pitches (Bombarde and = Clairon) were added the result was " a broad band of fiery tone".     Richard Ditewig