PipeChat Digest #5148 - Thursday, February 10, 2005
 
An 8-rank Wonder
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Re: Thanks to those of you...
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Mozart Vespers
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: An 8-rank Wonder
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Thanks to those of you...
  by "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
RE: An 8-rank Wonder
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: An 8-rank Wonder
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: An 8-rank Wonder
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Off-topic question; was: Thanks to those of you...
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Off-topic question; was: Thanks to those of you...
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: An 8-rank Wonder From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:10:18 -0500   Regarding the following organ that Stephen had the joy to play: http://www.keggorgan.com/Williamston.html :   The stoplist is below - sorry, I can't do columns with plain text. I have = a couple questions afterwards:   Great 8 Principal 8 Rohrflote 8 Viola 8 Viola Celeste 4 Octave 4 Flute 2 Piccolo Mixtur III 8 Trumpet 8 Oboe   Swell 8 Rohrflote 8 Viola 8 Viola Celeste 4 Principal 4 Flute 2 2/3 Nazard TC 2 Octave 1 1/3 Quint 16 Bassoon TC 8 Trumpet 8 Oboe 4 Clarion   Pedal 16 Bourdon 8 Principal 8 Flute 8 Viola 4 Octave 16 Trumpet 8 Trumpet 4 Oboe   Rank Analysis: 8 Principal 61 pipes 4 Octave 73 pipes 1 1/3 Quint 49 pipes 16 Rohrflote 97 pipes 8 Viola 61 pipes 8 Celeste 49 pipes 16 Trumpet 85 pipes 8 Oboe 61 pipes   1. I'm assuming that the Rohrflote is unified at 8-4-2 on Great and at 8-4 on Swell. 2. Are the Great Octave and the Swell Principal 4 + Octave 2 derived = from the 73 pipes of the Octave 4? At first I had assumed that the Principal = 8' rank might supply the Swell 4', but I would think that it would need to be enclosed to do that. 3. Where does the III rank mixture come from?   I would love to play this organ as well. Keith       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005    
(back) Subject: Re: Thanks to those of you... From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:23:03 -0600   Wow, another person who had chicken pox in adulthood. I was diagnosed on December 7, so I couldn't play for one of my churches' patronal feast -Immaculate Conception. Luckily I was well by Christmas. Alicia Zeilenga "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: SWF12262@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 01:33:59 EST Subject: Re: Thanks to those of you...   > Hope you're feeling better! We had a nasty virus pass through our > choir > starting at Christmas Eve Midnight Mass -- went from section to > section starting > with the basses. One of my basses was so sick he lost 15 pounds! > What a > way to diet! After that virus we had a really nasty stomach flu pass > through > the choir [hmmm, I hadn't intended a double entendre, but it's there]. > I'm > hoping our pestilence is over for the year! > > Regarding console cleansing, those germs are very dead by now unless > they > have a warm moist environment, and I'm REALLY hoping that doesn't > describe > anyone's console! A damp cloth will clean the keys and stop knobs > well enough. > That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger. :) My worst sick > experience > was when I came down with chicken pox about three weeks before my > wedding -- > sick as a dog and looked really bad. Had to play a wedding a day or > two after > diagnosed -- not fun, but got through it and avoided people as much as > possible. Was well by my wedding, but that was a real scare! Our > wedding was > wonderful, and honeymooned in Munich, Salzburg, and Vienna, almost > nine years ago > now. Which church do you play at in Chicago? I'm just north in > Skokie. > > Steve > > > Steven Weyand Folkers > Director of Music > St. Lambert Church > Skokie, IL > > >      
(back) Subject: Mozart Vespers From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:43:06 -0600   Does anyone happen to have the score and/or orch. parts (strings, brass, organ) for the Mozart Solemn Vespers? The Musical Feast Choral Society will be performing this work, and as they are a community chorus, we thought we would see if they were available to borrow (or even to purchase used or rent) before purchasing new copies. Trying to save the taxpayers' dollars...   Please reply privately, Thanks, Margo -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: An 8-rank Wonder From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 08:17:32 -0600   At 7:10 AM -0500 2/9/05, Keith Zimmerman wrote: >Regarding the following organ that Stephen had the joy to play: >http://www.keggorgan.com/Williamston.html : > >The stoplist is below - sorry, I can't do columns with plain text. I = have a >couple questions afterwards:   i forwarded your questions to Charles Kegg whose answer is below   David   ***************************************************************************= ********************************** This is the fourth instrument we have built based on this concept. The primary reason for its success is in the use of variable scaling and careful finishing. An extended rank of pipes must be shaped differently than a straight stop. In general, extended flues must ascend in volume, as one would normally do, but only up to about 6" C. After that, the scale and volume are pulled back such that the volume actually tapers off in the treble. This keeps the trebles from being too loud which is exaggerated by unification if simply extended from a "normal" rank. Reeds are scaled and voiced in a relatively normal fashion.   To answer the questions below:   1. The Rohrflute is a "forever" flute. All flute stops are drawn from it. Had there been one more stop in this organ, it would have been a spitzflute which dramatically reduces unification and increases colors available. Also notice a quirk of mine: I have called this a Rohrflute, not Rohrflote. I know of few Americans that say this with the proper German pronunciation. If they do, it sounds terribly affected. I don't care for Chimney Flute. So I use Rohrflute and brave the outrage to ensue.   2. The unenclosed Principal provides the 8' on the Great and the 8' & 4' on the Pedal. All other principals are drawn from the Octave. The Principal is scaled and voiced as a straight stop, which it is. The Octave is scaled and voiced for extension.   3. The Mixture is drawn from the Octave playing at 2' & 1', and the Quint playing at 1 1/3'. There are no breaks. As each pitch runs out of pipes in the treble, it simply goes away. This makes the stop not show poorly in the treble as it would if it would break back into pitches that would then be too loud. The Quint is a slightly tapered soft principal. This will not work well if the Quint is a real flute larigot. While the Quint is only 49 pipes, it is shaped in volume differently from its straight counterpart just as I described above. We did this mixture on the first organ we built of this concept at Sebring UM in Sebring, Ohio, and did so as as an experiment. It worked so well that we have done it on all since. While not a true mixture, it is preferable to it not being there at all. Many have played these organs and have had no idea that the mixture isn't "real."   Charles Kegg  
(back) Subject: Re: Thanks to those of you... From: "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:55:18 +0800   Join the club folks. I got chickenpox when I was 43. My 16 year old son thought it was hilarious as he had had it when he was one year old. He stopped laughing when he caught it again. BE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Thanks to those of you...     > Wow, another person who had chicken pox in adulthood. I was diagnosed > on December 7, so I couldn't play for one of my churches' patronal > feast -Immaculate Conception. Luckily I was well by Christmas. > Alicia Zeilenga > "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis" > >     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 7/02/2005    
(back) Subject: RE: An 8-rank Wonder From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:28:15 +1300   For my part, I'd infinitely rather have another flute stop (perhaps a = wooden Stopped Diapason) instead of the Celeste, and an English-style Dulciana = than a string stop. Probably, I think, I'd much prefer a more straight Principal chorus, too, than a second reed, though the 16ft rank is very necessary.   For me, I'd find it very very frustrating to have only one 8ft flute.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: An 8-rank Wonder From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:26:33 EST   Ross:   It's an eight rank wonder not ten or twelve or fifteen. Space and money was tight, I think they did a good job of it just the same.   Ron Severin Just being practical.    
(back) Subject: RE: An 8-rank Wonder From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:39:49 +1300   >It's an eight rank wonder not ten or twelve or fifteen. Space and money was tight, I think they did a good job of it just the same.   Sure, Ron, and I do applaud the sense in having an organ that isn't too = big. Mind you, that's very rarely a problem at all through lack of money. I'm sure, too, that preferences for which eight ranks we choose would be culturally conditioned at least in part. Here, for example, you'd never = see a Celeste on the Great, ever, be the organ large or small, unit or = straight.   Too, I guess I'm the same as others are, in that I need to remind myself, always, that without knowing the building and never having played or heard the instrument, it is always impossible to second-guess what it actually sounds like. I know instruments of great design but poor performance, and magnificent organs of poor design. Ross    
(back) Subject: Off-topic question; was: Thanks to those of you... From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:21:34 -0600   Do doctors prescribe Valtrex nowadays for chicken pox? I know it has been prescribed for friends with shingles (which sadly recur - I didn't know that but should have guessed). I had chicken pox at the age of 8, and won't tell you what home remedy my mom made me endure for it (yes, it had something to do with chickens). Chicken pox didn't affect my organ skills (I had none at the time - not much has changed).   Eating Cajun Creole roasted peanuts (a hoo-ahh!),   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic question; was: Thanks to those of you... From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:38:47 EST   In a message dated 02/09/05, Glenda (gksjd85@direcway.com) wrote:   << Do doctors prescribe Valtrex nowadays for chicken pox? I know it has = been prescribed for friends with shingles (which sadly recur - I didn't know = that but should have guessed). Eating Cajun Creole roasted peanuts (a = hoo-ahh!)>>   Dear Glenda: They MAY prescribe Valtrex, as it is prescribed for the same family of =   viruses as shingles and herpes. However, Chicken Pox seem to be a = one-time, usually childhood, manifestation of the virus, which later recurs in other = forms, if I am not mistaken. As far as eating peanuts is concerned, be warned: peanuts and some = other nuts are very high in Arginine. Arginine an amino acid that, above certain =   threshhold concentrations, can trigger an attack of shingles or herpes if = the virus is latent in the patient's system. If the patient has no previous = exposure to these viruses, consumption of peanuts (or dark chocolate, another = "trigger food"), they have no adverse effects other than weight gain.   Seb in New York Not a doctor; don't play one on television; just accumulate a lot of = obscure facts