PipeChat Digest #5158 - Tuesday, February 15, 2005
 
Re: Looking for Music
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
RE: Music for Entrance of the Queen of Sheba
  by "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com>
Thanks - Found (Was: Looking for Music)
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Charles McManis RIP
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Death of the Pipe Organ
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
MTNA Announcement
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: MTNA Announcement
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: MTNA Announcement
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: MTNA Announcement
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Isfried Kayser (1712-71)
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Lead Sheets and adaptability
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Lead Sheets and adaptability
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Drivel?
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
THIS SATURDAY- Dennis James / Santa Barbara / Arlington Theatre
  by <MUSCUR@aol.com>
Re: MTNA Announcement
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Name That Column
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
RE: Name That Column
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
I need advice from experienced organists.....
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Looking for Music From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:51:22 -0600   David Evangelides wrote:   > Good Evening Everyone, > > May I impose upon the group for a favor? > > For about a month I=E2=80=99ve been looking for the words to 3 anthems = that we > used to sing at Calvary Baptist Church in NYC back in the 60=E2=80=99s. = The > choir sang them as anthems, and they were also in some older hymn > books. I know the music, but can=E2=80=99t for the life of me find them = in any > of my music books or web search sites. It=E2=80=99s like they never = existed. > Does that ever happen to anyone else? > > Titles and words as best as I can remember are: > > 1. "One Day at Calvary"   Someone posted words to this, on the site   <http://teenforums.studentcenter.org/viewtopic.php?p=3D1135063>; attributing them to a W. H.   (Do a search in the page on "I stood one day at Calvary")   > 3. "Jesus Revealed in Me"   The site, <http://www.believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=3D145> identifies an evangelist, Rodney Gypsy Smith as the composer of this text, providing the following words:   Christ the Transforming Light, Touches this heart of mine, Piercing the darkest night, Making His glory shine. Chorus:   Chorus Oh, to reflect His grace, Causing the world to see, Love that will glow Til others shall know Jesus revealed in me.   > > Christ the Transforming Life > . . . . . > Oh to be saved from sin > . . . . . . > That I may show, so others would know > Jesus revealed in me. > > Don=E2=80=99t go out of your way, but perhaps between all of us we can = put > together most of the words in the right order. > > Thanks very much in advance, > > > > David E > > David Evangelides > Fulfillment Manager > International Bible Society > 719-867-2729 > (Sent by wireless T-Mobile Sidekick) > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Music for Entrance of the Queen of Sheba From: "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:22:25 -0600   If you are interested in the Mayhew edition, check out www.melbay.com. Thank you!!   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Scullion Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 12:13 PM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Music for Entrance of the Queen of Sheba   J,=20 If you're looking to learn it quickly I would go for the KMayhew version.=20 D      
(back) Subject: Thanks - Found (Was: Looking for Music) From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:32:27 -0700   Big THANK YOU to everyone who took the time to look for and send text and music for the 3 songs I was looking for.   That Day At Calvary Jesus Revealed in Me Only One Life to Offer   I really appreciate your graciousness.   Have a great day,     David E   David Evangelides International Bible Society devangelides@usa.ibs.org 719-867-2729 (Sent by wireless T-Mobile Sidekick)  
(back) Subject: Re: Charles McManis RIP From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:36:16 EST   The February edition of The Diapason 2005 tells of the death of Charles McManis, Born March 17, 1913 and died December 3, 2004. As a teenager he constructed a four rank pipe organ in his father's attic. He also experimented making pipes out of tin cans and wood. He was hooked on the sounds of the pipe organ at a very early age, and used to hum the high pitches of the pipes. He once took time out of his busy organ building life to write to me as a teenager offering encouragement on my own tin can pipe projects, and recounting his own excursions into tin can experiments. What brought this on was a newspaper article he read about me in I believe the Kansas City Star. He was the nicest man. and I always wished I lived closer to get to know him better. His was a long life well spent.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Death of the Pipe Organ From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:24:27 +0800   There are some fundemental differences between the OHS tour and a high scho= ol field trip.   The OHS tour was probably scheduled several months or a year in advance. The OHS members already have a love of and respect for the instruments. Most of the OHS members have some "milage" on them.   High school field trips, or at least what I remember of them, are a way to = get the kids out of the classroom for a day and are "somewhat" chaperoned. = I'm not looking for the worst in any of these kids, but left to their own d= evices they can get into situations where it seems they left their brains b= ack at the school.   Yeah, it would be great if each organ company could have a representative c= ut-away or easily accessible instrument for display and hands-on teaching. = It would be even better if the companies could make the connections with th= e area schools and offer dates for field trips. Then they could work out a = script for the docent and have an organist available. I might even suggest = younger grades 4, 5, 6 or middle school. Right now I'm thinking this wouldn= 't be a bad type of field for my daughter's school. Well, that's on my plat= e for next year .... best get crackin'     ----- Original Message ----- From: jch <opus1100@catoe.org> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Death of the Pipe Organ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:27:49 -0600   >=20 > At 09:24 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: > > It would seem to me that many organ manufacturers are fairly=20 > > small operations with few employees. Given a group of twenty to=20 > > thirty students coming through a working factory (not set up for=20 > > guided group tours) presents the company with a liability risk it=20 > > isn't willing to take on. > > > > It would fall under the same category as taking bus loads of tour=20 > > groups on organ crawls. The instrument or people will get damaged. >=20 > It was a rather short sighted attitude of that particular organ=20 > company. I have been through several organ shops both large and=20 > small on OHS conventions. It did not seem to be a great problem for=20 > them to accommodate a large group. Many of these high school=20 > students may be future members of an organ committee. Someone who=20 > has actually seen pipe organs and how they are built would be a=20 > real asset to a group which is usually pretty ignorant on the=20 > subject. >=20 > JCH ******************************************************************   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: MTNA Announcement From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:26:06 EST   Good afternoon:   I just received a letter from the MTNA announcing that they are discontinuin= g=20 percussion, organ, and guitar competitions at the young artist level.=A0   "The young artist organ competition has averaged seven participants=20 nationwide over the past three years.=A0 In addition to the award money of 3= 000-5000 each=20 year, and judging fees, the organ competition incurs higher expenses because= =20 of off-site transportation costs at the national conference, usage fees=20 charged by the churches ($2000 in Kansas City), inability to secure a pipe o= rgan=20 sponsor and the membership's resistance to digital organ sponsorship."   I find it hard to believe that a successful organ building firm wouldn't=20 contribute for a cause like this as it would directly benefit them by provid= ing a=20 tax write-off and free advertising. Also, wouldn't you volunteer to judge a=20 competition like this?=A0 I sure would.=A0 I get the feeling that a sincere=20= effort=20 was not made by the MTNA to improve the conditions of this competition, and=20 that terminating it was the fast and easy solution.=A0 Knowing that the AGO=20= POE=20 programs are full, and have to turn away several youth every year, I am conv= inced=20 that a partnership between the MTNA, the AGO, and an organ firm,or APOBA,=20 could certainly help to make this competition flourish.   Music Teachers National Association The Carew Tower 441 Vine St., Ste. 505 Cincinatti, OH 45202-2811 Phone: (888) 512-5278 Fax: (513) 421-2503 www.mtna.org email:=A0 mtnanet@mtna.org       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: MTNA Announcement From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:43:35 -0800 (PST)   This is truly unfortunate and there needs to be some type of intervention. The organ-builders and some of us in the professon could possibly do something.   The MTNA Competitions are usually very good. I won at the State level about 4 years ago. They always have very good judges, and use decent facilities. The judge for the competiton usually performs a recital on the organ where the competition is held. Im sure they could reduce fees. usually it is a personwho is well-respected in Organ pedagogy. The year I was in the State competiton, it was Martin Jean. The last one i heard abotu at natonal level, I think a student of Janette Fishell took 1st place. There is a $5000.00 prize along, and I THINK they are also given a Steinway.   What makes MTNA unique is that they have an "open" repertoire program. The student plays a 45 minute ecclectic program, which may include transcriptions and arrangements. They are to include a Bach work and a romantic piece, and fill in with other pieces that reflect their playing abilities and style. MTNA also takes students into the organ competition as old as 25.   Greg is a good colleague of mine and I pat him on the back for being aggressive with measures like this and the fight to save the Organ Department at Northwestern. I think he brings a very good point that APOBA, AIO, AGO and the others can join with MTNA to keep this competition alive. For a while, MTNA started publishing full page ads in TAO which. Im sad to see that it did not work.   As a side note, people inthe field keep b***ing about how it's dying, yet IMHO, the MTNA competitions are not supported as much as the others. It's a competition that is very low stress, but still serious. There is very little back-biting, and usually the competitors develop some comeradery, as I did with the person I was in competition with.   There actually may be a high-school level competition too.   Don't let us young aspiring organists down. Keep this competition alive. As Greg said, it has so much potential.     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250  
(back) Subject: Re: MTNA Announcement From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:09:17 EST   In a message dated 2/15/2005 3:44:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes:   As a side note, people inthe field keep b***ing about how it's dying, yet IMHO, the MTNA competitions are not supported as much as the others     I LIVED IN CINCINNTI< had a spouse who worked in Carew Tower, and a = friend and choir alto that lead the local chapter------ I NEVER KNEW THEY HAD ORGAN COMPETITIONS............ dale in FLorida  
(back) Subject: Re: MTNA Announcement From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:14:59 -0800 (PST)   oh YES MTNA has Organ competitions. They are really good, not as stressful as some of the others, and allow for one to progamr music fhat they really play well.   They have been publishing an Ad in TSO for the last 3 years I think regarding the Organ competitions. Last year was in Missouri, and the year before that the national comp. was heled on the Sipe at the Morman Tab. in Salt Lake City.     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250  
(back) Subject: Isfried Kayser (1712-71) From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:42:27 -0600   On Sunday, Feb. 6, I heard the beginning of Richard Gladwell's "With Heart and Voice." The program began with Kayser's Overture for organ. Beckmann's Repertorium (which spells Kayser's first name "Isfrid") mentions Kayser's Concors digitorum discordia, Op. 4 (1746), which I guess has 4 clavier suites in it.   I was somewhat ambivalent about the overture I heard. Does anyone have = other organ works by this composer? Has anyone heard other works of his? If so, = do you consider them worthwhile purchasing and learning? Who publishes his organ music? Beckmann doesn't list a publisher. Most unusual.   Thanks, Robert Lind    
(back) Subject: Re: Lead Sheets and adaptability From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:07:49 EST     nijhuis wrote:   "Wait! Monteverdi was a part of the Disco scene? Now I've lost all respect =   for the man."   I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with a sense of humor!   Wink, Bill H. Boston.    
(back) Subject: Re: Lead Sheets and adaptability From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:29:35 -0500   Hi Bill, If you want a real laugh you should have seen my excitement when I first saw this thread title. I though I was finally going to get a decent lesson on organ pipe construction. I also woke up this morning wondering why the alarm clock was ringing on Sunday morning. I became a bit perplexed to learn it was Tuesday. Perhaps these two episodes indicate some sort of subtle shift in my brain chemistry. Cheers Mike Gettelman   DERREINETOR@aol.com wrote:   > > nijhuis wrote: > > "Wait! Monteverdi was a part of the Disco scene? Now I've lost all > respect for the man." > > I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with a sense of humor! > > Wink, > Bill H. > Boston. >    
(back) Subject: Drivel? From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:37:22 +1300   Not sleeping well last night, I decided to show how huge organs are not needed. We can design perfectly good 4-manual organs of only twenty stops. The first scheme is for an organ designed NEVER to play Bach or accompany singing   GREAT SWELL 8 Open Diapason I 8 Violin Diapason 8 Open Diapason II 8 Lieblich Gedackt 8 Hohl Flute 8 Gamba 8 Salicional 8 Voix Celeste (TenC) 8 Tromba 8 Horn   CHOIR SOLO 8 Gedackt 8 Orchestral Oboe 8 Dulciana 8 Tuba 8 Clarinet   PEDAL 16 Open Wood 16 Open Metal 16 SubBass 16 Echo Bourdon 16 Trombone   The second design is for someone who hates 8fts and also cannot abide accompanying singing   GREAT POSITIVE 8 Hohl Flute 8 Rohrgedackt 4 Principal 4 Koppel 2 Octave 2 Principal .. Mixture IV-V . Cymbel IV .. Scharf III-IV 8 Krummhorn   BRUSTWERK OBERWERK 8 Gedackt 8 Viola 4 Quintadena 4 Schalmei . Terzzimbel II-III   PEDAL 16 SubBass 8 Principal 4 Octave 2 Nachthorn 16 Fagotto   There we are! See how easy it is? Instead of a large organ of five = manuals, you can have two smallish ones of 4 manuals and still total only 40 stops. Needless to say, the first organ must be stuffed deep into a chancel chamber, with the 16ft basses mitred at the back of the thing, the pressure being a uniform 8 inches. The second option must be profusely decorated and occupy the = entire western gallery, being on 1.5 inches of wind. And again, needless to say, the first organ must have tubercular rheumatic action on pitman chests, = and the second tracker action on Springlade.   Since I've done all this work, I'll leave it to someone else to dictate console dimensions, couplers and pistons. Oh yes, if you want a choir or congregational singing, ask the Vicar.   Maliciously, Ross    
(back) Subject: THIS SATURDAY- Dennis James / Santa Barbara / Arlington Theatre From: <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:54:50 EST   =20 The February theatre organ program at the atmospheric Arlington Theatre in=20 downtown Santa Barbara, California will be presented by SBTOS this Saturday= ,=20 February 19. It will contain two Buster Keaton films: the feature length "T= he=20 Navigator" plus the comedy short "The Balloonatic." Silent Film Concerts=20 touring organist Dennis James will provide the musical accompaniment at the= =20 magnificent four manual Robert-Morton theatre organ.=20 THE NAVIGATOR, Buster Keaton's most successful feature film, tells the tale= =20 of two innocents stranded on a liner that's sailing out to sea. The sweetl= y=20 naive Rollo Treadway is so wealthy that others always attend to his every=20 need; the girl across the street, whom he truly loves, lives an equally=20 sheltered life. Then he and she get trapped together on an abandoned ship t= hat=20 saboteurs have set adrift. With no one to help them, the hopeless, helpless= couple=20 must learn to fend for themselves. Comic highlights include the pair's firs= t,=20 misbegotten breakfast and their initial terror-filled night on the boat.=20 Arlington Theatre (Center for the Performing Arts, Inc.) is at 1317 State=20 Street in downtown Santa Barbara. Box Office Telephone contact via =20 805-963-4408 Concert time is 11 AM and the tickets are $11, available at T= icketmaster=20 and the Arlington Box Office. Children 14 and under and students with stude= nt=20 I. D. cards, admitted free.=20 The Robert-Morton organ company of Van Nuys, CA, made over 6000 theatre=20 organs before they went out of business in 1931. The Great Theatre Pipe Org= an of=20 the Arlington was originally installed in Loews Jersey City and was 24 rank= s.=20 There were four other so-called "Wonder" Morton's built and originally=20 installed in the following Loews Theatres: Valencia (Queens), Kings (Brookl= yn),=20 Paradise (Bronx), 175th (Manhattan). The Santa Barbara installation now has= 27=20 ranks (about 2000 pipes) plus seven tuned percussions (marimba,=20 glockenspiel, xylophone, chrysoglott, vibraphone, piano, and chimes) as wel= l as the usual=20 drums, bells, horns, horse hoofs, surf, wind, wood block and other special=20 effect sounds.=20 Some audience comments from James=E2=80=99 most recent Silent Film Concerts= at the=20 Arlington:=20 "Dennis James accompanied the Technicolor silent movie "The Black Pirate"=20 with Douglas Fairbanks Sr. (January, 2004) . . . Absolutely fabulous=20 presentation . . . a stunning organ accompaniment, probably the best I have= ever heard=20 .. . . Dennis' scoring was right on. I personally feel that the future of th= e=20 theatre organ lies in its returning to its original purpose producing the=20 "sound track" for silent motion pictures.=E2=80=9D John Ledwon, El Capitan =20= Theatre=20 organist =20 "He's fantastic, we almost forgot he was an organist- he's so natural at=20 what he's doing that it sounds like a sound track, so then you remind yours= elf=20 that somebody's doing that spontaneously which is amazing."=20 " What I like is he has a lot of information, his enthusiasm, and he's=20 really informative, you know, he really gives you an opportunity to hear al= l the=20 instruments ahead of time, and he gives you the background of the music, an= d I=20 really appreciate it, because I am unaware of the history, and I feel like=20 when I come here, I'm getting a history lesson."=20 Listing sent from: =20 Silent Film Concerts=20 PO Box 2072=20 Tacoma, Washington 98401-2072 USA=20 253-573-1683=20 To be deleted from this mailing list, please respond with e-mail request=20 containing REMOVE in the subject heading and sent to muscur@aol.com=20    
(back) Subject: Re: MTNA Announcement From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:58 EST   In a message dated 2/15/2005 2:44:31 PM Central Standard Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes:   There actually may be a high-school level competition too.       Actually, I think there may even be a junior high competition, as well as =   high schoo. Last year, I judged the Tennessee state compeittion. It was a = good experience . . . 2 high school and 1 junior high, if I remember. Yours, Darryl  
(back) Subject: Name That Column From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:41:27 EST     Dear List,   After a rather long hiatus, our Parish Newsletter is being resurrected. As =   Director of Music, I'll be writing a monthly column.   I've done this in the past, and am looking forward to doing it again--what =   I'm not looking forward to, however, is a less-than-inventive name for the =   column. I'm tired of "Choir Notes" and the like, but also feel that my two =   (tongue-in-cheek) suggestions-- "Gregorian Gossip" and "Schola = Shenanigans" --lack the necessary gravitas. ;) If we sang in a divided chancel, the stilted "Cantoris et Decani" would appeal to me, were it not for the fact that it = is, well, stilted. Wit is good--snobbery, not so good.   If anyone has any suggestions--serious or humorous, please let me know on- = or off-list. If I use it, you will get credit in my first column. My deadline = is Feb. 20, though yours might stretch a few days post.   The character of the church is High Anglican yet unstuffy by high church standards; subtlety and wit is likely to be appreciated by the = congregation. The musical style of the parish places an emphasis on 16th C. polyphony, = plainchant and (chiefly Anglican) 20th C. motets and anthems and the hymnody of the Hymnal 1982 (US).   Any suggestions?   Pax,   Bill H. SJE, Boston    
(back) Subject: RE: Name That Column From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:28:44 +1300   >I've done this in the past, and am looking forward to doing it = again--what I'm not looking forward to, however, is a less-than-inventive name for the column.   Why not be completely honest and call it "Gossip and Opinion from the = Organ Bench"? No one can complain then, whatever you write.   Ross   :-)    
(back) Subject: I need advice from experienced organists..... From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:24:47 -0600   Hello Listers,   I am in the middle of adding a new floating Echo Division to the 1930 = Moller in my church. It will have the following stops: 8' Echo Salicional (73 pipes on Pilcher E-P chest, enclosed with its own swell shutters) 8' Violin Celeste (tuned sharp to Salicional, from tenor C = - 61 pipes) 8' Viola Unda Maris (tuned slightly flat to Salicional - 73 = pipes on Pilcher chest) 8' Rohr Flute (73 pipes on Pilcher chest) 16' - 8' - 4' Unit Dulciana (exposed on separate chest just in front of the swell shutters)   The whole thing is at the rear of the room, and is intended for floating solo effects, distant chords and a diminutive echo chorus. I must decide right now whether I want to include an extra one-rank chest exposed with = the Dulciana chest. It could be used to provide an independant 4' or 2' Dulcette, or a properly tuned 2 2/3' Dulciana Twelfth. I have never played =   an organ with separate ranks comprising a Dulciana chorus, and I don't = know if there would be any real advantage to having an independant 4' rank in a =   stop where "contrapuntal clarity" is not an issue. I also don't know if having a real 2 2/3' rank to complete the Dulciana chorus would help it = have that distant "Echo Diapason Chorus" effect that I hear in recordings of English cathedral instruments. Please share any opinions on what would be = a useful addition to the above stops for an orchestral 1930 instrument. I = have to decide soon what space I want to provide. Thanks for sharing = your experience, Kip in Missouri