PipeChat Digest #5159 - Wednesday, February 16, 2005
 
Re: Death of the Pipe Organ
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: Name That Column
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Addendum to "Column"
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Attack of the hobbyists (longish)
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Name That Column
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Name That Column
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: I need advice
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: Voluntaries in Lent
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: Name That Column
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: MTNA Announcement
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
RE: Name That Column
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
RE: Name That Column
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Death of the Pipe Organ From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:40:10 -0600   At my small-town Methodist church I have had Organ Introduction days = several times for the fourth and fifth grade music classes in several local = schools. The kids, most of whom have only been to small fundamental churches, if to =   any church at all, are always quiet and respectfully impressed with our formal building and especially with the sounds the organ can make. I also host a class once a year of the local extended campus college music class, =   introducing them to a grand piano, a harpsichord and the pipe organ, all = of which we have in our sanctuary. The county-wide home schooler's group has come a couple of times too, and their kids are very well behaved and interested. I always give a short (!) talk with musical examples, and give =   them a chance to wander, to look into each chamber and the blower room = (with an adult at each location) and a station where they can blow on a few = sample pipes, to get a feel for the wind required. I arrange ahead of time with = the teacher to introduce me to any child who can play anything on piano, and have them bring music if necessary to try a piece on the organ. The other kids love to hear their own class mate making music.   I am expanding the organ right now, and it has occured to me to build in some plexiglass lids on accessable chests and relays so that visitors will =   be able to "see some of the action" required to make the notes come out. = So far I haven't made any converts to organ playing, but alot of kids who = knew nothing about real organs go home knowing something and having had a fun time at it.   = Kip in Missouri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Death of the Pipe Organ     There are some fundemental differences between the OHS tour and a high school field trip.   The OHS tour was probably scheduled several months or a year in advance. The OHS members already have a love of and respect for the instruments. Most of the OHS members have some "milage" on them.   High school field trips, or at least what I remember of them, are a way to =   get the kids out of the classroom for a day and are "somewhat" chaperoned. =   I'm not looking for the worst in any of these kids, but left to their own devices they can get into situations where it seems they left their brains =   back at the school.   Yeah, it would be great if each organ company could have a representative cut-away or easily accessible instrument for display and hands-on = teaching. It would be even better if the companies could make the connections with = the area schools and offer dates for field trips. Then they could work out a script for the docent and have an organist available. I might even suggest =   younger grades 4, 5, 6 or middle school. Right now I'm thinking this wouldn't be a bad type of field for my daughter's school. Well, that's on = my plate for next year .... best get crackin'     ----- Original Message ----- From: jch <opus1100@catoe.org> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Death of the Pipe Organ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:27:49 -0600   > > At 09:24 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: > > It would seem to me that many organ manufacturers are fairly > > small operations with few employees. Given a group of twenty to > > thirty students coming through a working factory (not set up for > > guided group tours) presents the company with a liability risk it > > isn't willing to take on. > > > > It would fall under the same category as taking bus loads of tour > > groups on organ crawls. The instrument or people will get damaged. > > It was a rather short sighted attitude of that particular organ > company. I have been through several organ shops both large and > small on OHS conventions. It did not seem to be a great problem for > them to accommodate a large group. Many of these high school > students may be future members of an organ committee. Someone who > has actually seen pipe organs and how they are built would be a > real asset to a group which is usually pretty ignorant on the > subject. > > JCH ******************************************************************   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>          
(back) Subject: Re: Name That Column From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:57:14 -0500   I used to write a newsletter for my choir called =B3Musical Moments.=B2 You could even Frenchify the words: =B3Moments Musicale=B2 and perhaps even quote some Schubert notes in a decorated title.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   On 2/15/05 9:41 PM, "DERREINETOR@aol.com" <DERREINETOR@aol.com> wrote:   >=20 > Dear List, >=20 > After a rather long hiatus, our Parish Newsletter is being resurrected. A= s > Director of Music, I'll be writing a monthly column. >=20 > I've done this in the past, and am looking forward to doing it again--wha= t I'm > not looking forward to, however, is a less-than-inventive name for the co= lumn. > I'm tired of "Choir Notes" and the like, but also feel that my two > (tongue-in-cheek) suggestions-- "Gregorian Gossip" and "Schola Shenanigan= s" > --lack the necessary gravitas. ;) If we sang in a divided chancel, the > stilted "Cantoris et Decani" would appeal to me, were it not for the fact= that > it is, well, stilted. Wit is good--snobbery, not so good. >=20 > If anyone has any suggestions--serious or humorous, please let me know on= - or > off-list. If I use it, you will get credit in my first column. My deadlin= e is > Feb. 20, though yours might stretch a few days post. >=20 > The character of the church is High Anglican yet unstuffy by high church > standards; subtlety and wit is likely to be appreciated by the congregati= on. > The musical style of the parish places an emphasis on 16th C. polyphony, > plainchant and (chiefly Anglican) 20th C. motets and anthems and the hymn= ody > of the Hymnal 1982 (US). >=20 > Any suggestions? >=20 > Pax, >=20 > Bill H. > SJE, Boston >=20 >=20      
(back) Subject: Addendum to "Column" From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:03:35 EST   List,   Regarding "Name That Column", I should add that the CONTENT of the column = is to be theological as well as musical, and that as it stands, it's a full = page. It is not to be full of rehearsal schedules and cocktail party dates = (though it may include them, at the end, in a box in the corner, as need be;)).   Just a clarification.   Keep the fun suggestions flowing, Pax, Bill H.  
(back) Subject: Re: Attack of the hobbyists (longish) From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:30:43 -0500     On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:00:45 -0500, Charles Peery wrote > Dear colleagues, > > I wonder if the oft-lamented "decline" in our profession is due more > to shoddy thinking and practice than it is to our politeness, > attitudes, etc., as is often blamed. >     I don't think so. I agree that we should all be as professional as possible, even us amateurs, and appreciate everything in your post. But I =   think we're probably more professional than we ever have been before. Granted, I don't have numbers and could be way off, but I have a hard time =   believing that the majority of the thousands of organs that Estey put out, =   for example, were played by professionals. And the hundreds of catalogue model organs from Hook et al? I doubt it. Europe? The main cathedrals yes, but I doubt every parish church had a professional. No, we have a higher concentration of professionals than ever before, with higher standards than ever before.   No, while professionalism is important, we can't blame our predicament (if =   we are in one) on it... unless we're talking about our curmudgeony ways.   I think our biggest problem is largely out of our control... that people just don't go to church. The number of people of faith is as high as ever = I think... the difference is that the rest no longer bother going. It used = to be, in many places, everyone went to church on Sunday. Not true anymore.   I don't know what the solution is... but encouraging amateurs is one of them. And yes, we should encourage them to be as professional as = possible. Another is to stop fretting about electronic organs... I hate them too, = but they're here to stay, and will die along with pipe organs if we allow it. =   We need to be touting the organ and its music, not pipe organs and their mechanisms. Its about the music! Pipe organs do it better, no question. =   From the perspective of the outside world, though, electronic organ = bashing is just plain organ bashing. Another is keeping in touch with piano teachers (I suspect they must be seeing a decline too) and encourage kids = to get into the organ at an early age. Many piano teachers will resist, but not all. I could think of a dozen mroe things... having more exciting recitals, providing video cameras for the audience to watch hidden performers. Let's be creative!   But the bottom line is, the less people go to the church, the less they're =   going to be exposed to organs. Recital hall organs will only get us so far...   I'm not too worried about it really. I used to be. The number of = positions keeps going down, and so do the number of organists, and the number of organs, and the number of people who want to listen to them. We still = have equilibrium. I'm sure I'll always have an organ to play, even if I have = to install it myself, as in my current church. I dunno... I just don't like all this worrying! I just find it amazing, after all these years, that = new pipe organs are being built all over the place, even if it is fewer than ever. Let's enjoy it and have fun! If we're having fun, the interest = will be contagious.   Andy       A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Name That Column From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:34:54 -0500   I call my column in the weekly bulletin "Piping Up."   But it sounds like your column is to be predominately on choral topics, or on church music in general.   How about "Joyful Noises"?   Randy Runyon   On Feb 15, 2005, at 11:03 PM, DERREINETOR@aol.com wrote:   > List, > > Regarding "Name That Column", I should add that the CONTENT of the > column is to be theological as well as musical, and that as it stands, > it's a full page. It is not to be full of rehearsal schedules and > cocktail party dates (though it may include them, at the end, in a box > in the corner, as need be;)). > > Just a clarification. > > Keep the fun suggestions flowing, > Pax, > Bill H.
(back) Subject: Re: Name That Column From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:05:14 -0500   My radio programme was called "Voicings", - it was a programme devoted to Organ and Choral music.   Another suggestion as you are High Anglicans, "High Notes"   However, I think that you have had enough ideas for now!   Bob Conway      
(back) Subject: Re: I need advice From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:20:03 EST   What you need is a 1920s era String Mixture like those found in Austin = organs. It would work best under expression. An independent 2 2/3 without a 2' stop would not work as well for the = effect you desire. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.   Justin Hartz  
(back) Subject: Re: Voluntaries in Lent From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:58:36 EST   Hope this is helpful :) According to the notes for Lent found in the Ordo Kalendar of the = Episcopal Church, "The use of flowers and organ music should be limited during the season, except on the Fourth Sunday in Lent"   On the Fourth Sunday in Lent, Rose colored vestments and flowers may be = used. This is also known as Laetare Sunday. I always make certain that the music = is more cheerful on that Sunday while still being appropriate for the season.   This season, Psalm 23 is the appointed psalm for Lent 4, so you would have =   many choices for choral and organ music with that as a theme.   Justin Hartz  
(back) Subject: Re: Name That Column From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:08:10 +0800   Cleff Notes (ref. to Cliff's notes), Grace Notes, Cue Up, Accent on Choir/M= usic, SATB Reduction (mmm ... might be a bad choice), Singing to the Choir,= Tutti, Counterpoint, Harmony, (something based on/around) Chant, Polyphony= , Polyrhythms, Between the Staves, Take Note, Choir Dynamics, Hymnody, Down= beat/Up beat, Acciaccatura & Appoggiatura (Just because they are fun to sa= y), Anacrusis (Unless you don't like seeing your choir members at the "pick= -up bar").     ----- Original Message ----- From: DERREINETOR@aol.com   > Dear List, >=20 > After a rather long hiatus, our Parish Newsletter is being resurrected. As > Director of Music, I'll be writing a monthly column. >=20 > I've done this in the past, and am looking forward to doing it again--what > I'm not looking forward to, however, is a less-than-inventive name for the > column. I'm tired of "Choir Notes" and the like, but also feel that my two > (tongue-in-cheek) suggestions-- "Gregorian Gossip" and "Schola=20 > Shenanigans" --lack the > necessary gravitas. ;) If we sang in a divided chancel, the stilted > "Cantoris et Decani" would appeal to me, were it not for the fact=20 > that it is, well, > stilted. Wit is good--snobbery, not so good. >=20 > If anyone has any suggestions--serious or humorous, please let me know on= - or > off-list. If I use it, you will get credit in my first column. My deadlin= e is > Feb. 20, though yours might stretch a few days post. >=20 > The character of the church is High Anglican yet unstuffy by high church > standards; subtlety and wit is likely to be appreciated by the=20 > congregation. The > musical style of the parish places an emphasis on 16th C.=20 > polyphony, plainchant > and (chiefly Anglican) 20th C. motets and anthems and the hymnody of the > Hymnal 1982 (US). >=20 > Any suggestions? >=20 > Pax, >=20 > Bill H. > SJE, Boston       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: MTNA Announcement From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:02:42 -0800 (PST)   Yes Darryl, I looked today and there is JR/SR high Organ in MTNA. If AGO and others would collaborate with MTNA this could be a competition that would be even greater than it has been. I actuallty like MTNA competitions more than others. All the teachers come together, you meet other students, and there feeling is very good at MTNA competitions. No one is there to "psych" anyone out. The other unique thing is their "open" programming. The student plays a 45 minute recital representative of all styles and periods. Transcriptions canbe included.     I hope, like Greg, that people won't just sit and let this great competion go to the dumpster. Partnering with MTNA might be a good way to foster the retention of some organ departments too.       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250  
(back) Subject: RE: Name That Column From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:17:41 -0000   There used to be a humourous column in the Musical Opinion magazine I = think which went by the name of "Corno Dolce"   =20   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of DERREINETOR@aol.com Sent: 16 February 2005 02:41 To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Name That Column   =20     Dear List,   After a rather long hiatus, our Parish Newsletter is being resurrected. = As Director of Music, I'll be writing a monthly column.=20   I've done this in the past, and am looking forward to doing it = again--what I'm not looking forward to, however, is a less-than-inventive name for = the column. I'm tired of "Choir Notes" and the like, but also feel that my = two (tongue-in-cheek) suggestions-- "Gregorian Gossip" and "Schola = Shenanigans" --lack the necessary gravitas. ;) If we sang in a divided chancel, the stilted "Cantoris et Decani" would appeal to me, were it not for the = fact that it is, well, stilted. Wit is good--snobbery, not so good.   If anyone has any suggestions--serious or humorous, please let me know = on- or off-list. If I use it, you will get credit in my first column. My deadline is Feb. 20, though yours might stretch a few days post.   The character of the church is High Anglican yet unstuffy by high church standards; subtlety and wit is likely to be appreciated by the = congregation. The musical style of the parish places an emphasis on 16th C. polyphony, plainchant and (chiefly Anglican) 20th C. motets and anthems and the = hymnody of the Hymnal 1982 (US).   Any suggestions?   Pax,   Bill H. SJE, Boston    
(back) Subject: RE: Name That Column From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:33:13 +1300   >There used to be a humourous column in the Musical Opinion magazine I = think which went by the name of =93Corno Dolce=94 =A0 Indeed. It was a good column. I used to enjoy Michael Jack's stuff, too.   Is MusOp still going? If not, when did it die?   I s'pose "Corno Dolce" might be translated as "Sweet Corn"??? :-)   Ross   P.S. Do you remember the articles about POADs way back forty years ago?