PipeChat Digest #5161 - Friday, February 18, 2005
 
Re:Random thought over a cocktail...hymntunes
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
hymn tunes
  by "GB" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Knoxville, TN
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
Weddings: act as contractor?
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Re: Weddings: act as contractor?
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
RE: Random thought over a cocktail...hymntunes
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Weddings: act as contractor?
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Weddings: act as contractor?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Weddings: act as contractor?
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Interchangable Hymn Tunes
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
RE: Weddings: act as contractor?
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?]
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Hymntorductions [was: Weddings: act as contractor?]
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Gillian Weir Artist in Residence at Peabody
  by "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de>
RE: Gillian Weir Artist in Residence at Peabody
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?]
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes
  by <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Re: Weddings: act as contractor?
  by <RVScara@aol.com>
Re: Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?]
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re:Random thought over a cocktail...hymntunes From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:15:54 EST   >I thought about hymntunes that are interchangable with texts.   <snip>   >What tunes to you prefer for the familiar hymns? >What tunes do your churches seem more fond of?   That's the magic of KNOWING hymnody. If the meter is the same, many tunes =   with work with many texts. I have a metrical psalter from the Church of Scotland dating to the mid 1880's in which the pages are split in half = (the tune is at the top, the Psalm is at the bottom) and a person can mix and match = which text and which tune they'd like to use.   The fun thing about fun thing about meter is that it can be used for some interesting thing, such as "Amazing Grace" sung to the theme of = "Gilligan's Island." However, on a serious note, "What a Friend We Have in Jesus" can = also be sung to the tune Nettleton, which makes for a little bit more serious = sounding hymn, and not so campmeeting. We regularly substitute this at my = church--I'm not really sure why, it's been a custom for years, and when we sing it, = the congregation will sing either tune with gusto. As long as they have an introduction giving them which tune, since most can sing songs like this = from memory. (ALL VERSES!)   Hymns that are favorites have some sort of emotional bond--they were = taught to sing it by their mother or grandmother, it was sung at someone's = funeral, it was their first solo in church, etc. Generally, those are the more "heartwrenching" hymns. We've seen it discussed on here before that even = some high-church Anglicans/Episcopalian women wanted "In the Garden" at their = funeral. Even being a Baptist, I find that song a little cheesy, but I can soup it = up with the best of them and make everyone love it by the time I'm done. However, = I think that people like the "majestic" hymns for the texts more than the = music. How they are played and sung makes those hymns come alive. If a church consistently sang hymns in a dreary manner, no hymn would be a favorite, = just as if all hymns were done with loud organ, big introductions, fanfares and modulations and alternate harmonizations. Congregations like a balance.   An easy to sing melody, a good message in the text, and solid (but = sensitive to the text) organ playing--that's what makes a favorite in my book.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: hymn tunes From: "GB" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:23:43 -0600   One can also sing Blessed Assurance Jesus is Mine to the tune of = Beautiful Dreamer by Steven Foster. Gary
(back) Subject: Knoxville, TN From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:47:15 -0500   Does anyone on the list live in the Knoxville area or have some = familiarity with it?   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty Boston, MA 02131 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/      
(back) Subject: Weddings: act as contractor? From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:24:50 -0500   Hi, listers, How much do you act as contractors for weddings? I mean, if a bride wants a string quartet, vocal soloist, etc? Do you dive in and hope that your quality control methods will result in the bride being happy? Do you get in the middle relaying costs and agreement to costs? Do you stay out of it completely and tell the bride she must be her own contractor? I guess this would apply to funerals also, which brings the added problem of musicians who are available for a weekday gig. Thanks, Chuck Peery St. Louis    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor? From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:52:11 EST   i would never act as contractor for a wedding or funeral. if the bride wanted a trumped and i knew of a trumpet player, then i would give her the = person's name & number & let her make the contact, but that's the extent of my involvement.   scot in spokane  
(back) Subject: RE: Random thought over a cocktail...hymntunes From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:24:15 +1300   >I have a metrical psalter from the Church of Scotland dating to the mid 1880's in which the pages are split in half = (the tune is at the top, the Psalm is at the bottom) and a person can mix and match = which   text and which tune they'd like to use.   Ah yes, these were known as the "barn door" editions, and they kept the practice up through the 2nd edition of both Psalter and Church Hymnary = till the 3rd edition well after WWII. The system was in use before the 1880s. I have the 1872 book which offers plainsong chants as well as "Anglican" chants for the pointed version of the Psalter and this, too, is barn door. The words in this latter, by the way, are not the Metrical Psalter, but = are in fact from the King James/Authorised Version. Have you ever heard this Psalter? - it sounds very different from what to some people Scots psalm-singing always is.   Ross      
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor? From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:20:55 -0000   Mostly I find that the wedding couples are having musicians with whom they =   have already established a working relationship (relative, friend, colleague, fellow student, etc) rather than "Let's have a Trumpet" or "Wouldn't a sting quartet look nice".   I have started charging a fee for rehearsals with said musicians.   I was noticing that, singers particularly, it was becoming a routine of _ i) "We need to rehearse mid-week to see how we will perform the piece (Note, THE piece; I'm playing throughout the proceedings, and now I have = to travel to the church to rehearse THE piece, on it's own) ii) Then the Bride wants to hear the music after her 'rehearsal' with = the Rector - Fair enough; she won't "hear" it on the day, she'll be concentrating on everything else BUT - it's another trip to the church. iii) Then it's .. "When can we 'warm-up' before the guests arrive - SO, = I have to arrive 30 mins. or so before I expect anybody to get to the = church, faff around while the singer 'warms up' or hear scrapings and screeching = as strings are tightened and bows are rosined, iv) Then I have to wait further before what I consider an appropriate time to start playing v) And, to cap it all, I have to listen to guests saying "What a beautiful voice, etc, etc" and (hardly ever) a comment about how the accompaniment allowed THE VOICE to be heard to its best advantage   So, "From this moment on" ..... THEY PAY FOR IT!   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman worthy of his hire] ____________________________   "There's a basic rule which runs through all kinds of music, kind of an unwritten rule. I don't know what it is. But I've got it." Ron Wood ____________________________   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Weddings: act as contractor?     > Hi, listers, > How much do you act as contractors for weddings? I mean, if a bride = wants > a string quartet, vocal soloist, etc? ['snip]    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:52:05 -0500     On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Harry Grove wrote:   > Mostly I find that the wedding couples are having musicians with whom > they have already established a working relationship (relative, > friend, colleague, fellow student, etc) rather than "Let's have a > Trumpet" or "Wouldn't a sting quartet look nice". > > I have started charging a fee for rehearsals with said musicians. > >   Not to mention, when you're dealing with singers who are a friend or relative of the bride, having to teach them how to sing the #$&*%^($& song!   Randy Runyon    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor? From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:08:05 -0000   Or, when they want to sing something modestly contemporary (and after its 'vetted' as appropriate) and you play through the introduction, and = ........ they don't start singing ............ and ............. so you do it again =   ............. and they don't sing (again) ............ so you ask what's wrong ............. and they reply,   "But it isn't right. You're not playing it like the CD !"   AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman, sometimes driven (rapidly) to the point of exasperation]   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor?     > Not to mention, when you're dealing with singers who are a friend or > relative of the bride, having to teach them how to sing the #$&*%^($& > song! > > Randy Runyon    
(back) Subject: Interchangable Hymn Tunes From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:38:51 -0700   In congregational singing, has anyone ever switched from one tune to another recognized alternative tune for the final verse?   For instance, in "How Firm a Foundation" 1. vv 1-3 Begin singing with 'Portuguese Hymn Tune' ('Adeste Fidelis'); 2. Descrescending interlude 3. v. 4 (singing softly); 4. Modulation between verses assending into playing through tune "Foundation" 5. Trumpet fanfare (Always need that!) 6. V. 5 Singing to Tune "Foundation" 7. ff full registration on last line, with sfz on 'A-MEN'       David E   David Evangelides International Bible Society devangelides@usa.ibs.org 719-867-2729 (Sent by wireless T-Mobile Sidekick)  
(back) Subject: RE: Weddings: act as contractor? From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:05:19 +1300   > Mostly I find that the wedding couples are having musicians with whom > they have already established a working relationship (relative, > friend, colleague, fellow student, etc) rather than "Let's have a > Trumpet" or "Wouldn't a sting quartet look nice".   Oh, I don't know. Four wasps doesn't sound too good, to me, and I've never seen one play a string instrument, anyway.............   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:10:49 -0800 (PST)   That sounds like a lot of fun! I always keep with "Foundation" on that hymn. You can add some real Soul to it.   HOWEVER to stick yo your question...in a masterclass on hymns with John Weaver, he mentioned this very same thing: using multiple tunes for one hymn. It was done effectively, and we enjoyed it.   --- David Evangelides <davide@theatreorgans.com> wrote:   > In congregational singing, has anyone ever switched > from one tune to > another recognized alternative tune for the final > verse? > > For instance, in "How Firm a Foundation" > 1. vv 1-3 Begin singing with 'Portuguese Hymn Tune' > ('Adeste Fidelis'); > 2. Descrescending interlude > 3. v. 4 (singing softly); > 4. Modulation between verses assending into playing > through tune > "Foundation" > 5. Trumpet fanfare (Always need that!) > 6. V. 5 Singing to Tune "Foundation" > 7. ff full registration on last line, with sfz on > 'A-MEN'       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?] From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:37:55 +0800   > > Mostly I find that the wedding couples are having musicians with=20 > > whom they have already established a working relationship=20 > > (relative, friend, colleague, fellow student, etc) rather than=20 > > "Let's have a Trumpet" or "Wouldn't a sting quartet look nice". >=20 > Oh, I don't know. Four wasps doesn't sound too good, to me, and I've never > seen one play a string instrument, anyway............. >=20 > Ross   This could work, but where do you put it in the ceremony? :-)   Fiddle-de -de   Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, Says the fly, says he, "Will you marry me? And live with me, sweet Bumble Bee?" Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, Oh, I love you, and you love me!   Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, Says the Bee, says she, "I'll live under your wing, You'll never know I carry a sting." Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, Oh, I love you, and you love me!   Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, After Parson Beetle Had joined the pair, They went outside to get some air. Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, Oh, I love you, and you love me!   Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, And the bees did buzz, And the bluebells did ring, You've ne'er heard such a merry thing! Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, Oh, I love you, and you love me!   Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, And then to think, That of all of the flies, The Bumble Bee should get the prize! Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, Oh, I love you, and you love me!     -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Hymntorductions [was: Weddings: act as contractor?] From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:42:07 +0800   And how often does this happen in church with hymn introductions? ... well = marked in the hymnal even. usually happens on the unfamiliar tunes ... time go 'to around The Horn' an= d play the whole darn thing through.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor? Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:08:05 -0000   >=20 > Or, when they want to sing something modestly contemporary (and=20 > after its 'vetted' as appropriate) and you play through the=20 > introduction, and ........ they don't start singing ............=20 > and ............. so you do it again ............ and they don't=20 > sing (again) ............ so you ask what's wrong ............. and=20 > they reply, >=20 > "But it isn't right. You're not playing it like the CD !" >=20 > AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! >=20 > Harry Grove > [a.k.a. a musicman, sometimes driven (rapidly) to the point of exasperat= ion]   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:43:59 -0600   David Evangelides wrote:   > In congregational singing, has anyone ever switched from one tune to > another recognized alternative tune for the final verse?   I would, but haven't. I should note, that the only way I would is with a strong choir to guide, with a musicly literate congregation, with the congregation having at least the words underlaying the melody, and with advance notice, perhaps a run through before the service, unless it had been done enough that the congregation was accustomed to it, and I knew the congregation knew both tunes equally well.   Frankly, though, something I would try first, is "interleaving" hymns, either antiphonally (side to side) or responsively (choir and congregation). For example   Congregation: "There is a green hill far away" [TGH], stanza 1 Choir: "Were you there" [WYT], stanza 1 Congregation: TGH, stanza 2 Choir: WYT, stanza 2 Congregation: TGH stanza 4 Choir: WYT stanza 3 Congregation: TGH stanza 3 Choir: WYT stanza 4 Congregation TGH stanza 5.   [NB: The above scheme makes reference to the two hymns with the verses printed in the Hymnal 1982. Stanzas in the two hymns vary in some hymnals, and may not fit the above scheme.]   ns  
(back) Subject: Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:56:47 -0600   Where I wrote:   > I should note, that the only way I would is with a strong choir to > guide, with a musicly literate congregation, with the congregation > having at least the words underlaying the melody, and with advance > notice, perhaps a run through before the service,   I intended to communicate that the words sung to each melody should be underlaid to the appropriate melody.   ns  
(back) Subject: Gillian Weir Artist in Residence at Peabody From: "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:35:52 +0100   Dear listmembers,   I just received the information that Dame Gillian Weir was appointed Artist in Residence at th Peabody Conservatory in Baltimore. In this function she will be at least twice each semester at Peabody, giving masterclasses for the students of the organ department. The first classes of this kind took place already Tuesday, Feb. 15 and on Wednesday, Feb.16   Hans-Friedrich Hell      
(back) Subject: RE: Gillian Weir Artist in Residence at Peabody From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:44:35 +1300     >I just received the information that Dame Gillian Weir was appointed]     Ah, a fellow NZer......   :-)   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?] From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:48:03 +1300     >This could work, but where do you put it in the ceremony? :-)   You've made me think there. Oh yes. To "cere" something is to wax it, and = as your bees produce beeswax, the wax (whacks) in the cere-mony should come after the service is over.   I think I'm being ingenious but pathetic. ;-)   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes From: <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:55:49 +0000   I have long wanted to partipate in master-class where John was the = clinician. Where did you have the opprutunity to participate where John Weaver was = the clinician?   Bored in Galesburg,   Jon     > That sounds like a lot of fun! > I always keep with "Foundation" on that hymn. You can > add some real Soul to it. > > HOWEVER to stick yo your question...in a masterclass > on hymns with John Weaver, he mentioned this very same > thing: using multiple tunes for one hymn. It was done > effectively, and we enjoyed it. > > --- David Evangelides <davide@theatreorgans.com> > wrote: > > > In congregational singing, has anyone ever switched > > from one tune to > > another recognized alternative tune for the final > > verse? > > > > For instance, in "How Firm a Foundation" > > 1. vv 1-3 Begin singing with 'Portuguese Hymn Tune' > > ('Adeste Fidelis'); > > 2. Descrescending interlude > > 3. v. 4 (singing softly); > > 4. Modulation between verses assending into playing > > through tune > > "Foundation" > > 5. Trumpet fanfare (Always need that!) > > 6. V. 5 Singing to Tune "Foundation" > > 7. ff full registration on last line, with sfz on > > 'A-MEN' > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: act as contractor? From: <RVScara@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:54:23 EST   AMEN, to Randy's comment on teaching the " professional singer" friend/ relative the song they are supposed to sing. Same for the "experienced organist" relative they prevailed on the pastor to let play and who arrives and asks "can you show me which keyboard I use and how do I turn = on the sounds."  
(back) Subject: Re: Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?] From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:03:00 -0600   Haven't sung that in years. I'll have to teach it to my kids ;-) Alicia Zeilenga "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:37:55 +0800 Subject: Fiddle-de-de [was: Weddings: act as contractor?]   > > > Mostly I find that the wedding couples are having musicians with > > > whom they have already established a working relationship > > > (relative, friend, colleague, fellow student, etc) rather than > > > "Let's have a Trumpet" or "Wouldn't a sting quartet look nice". > > > > Oh, I don't know. Four wasps doesn't sound too good, to me, and I've > never > > seen one play a string instrument, anyway............. > > > > Ross > > This could work, but where do you put it in the ceremony? :-) > > Fiddle-de -de > > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, > Says the fly, says he, > "Will you marry me? > And live with me, sweet Bumble Bee?" > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > Oh, I love you, and you love me! > > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, > Says the Bee, says she, > "I'll live under your wing, > You'll never know I carry a sting." > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > Oh, I love you, and you love me! > > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, > After Parson Beetle > Had joined the pair, > They went outside to get some air. > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > Oh, I love you, and you love me! > > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, > And the bees did buzz, > And the bluebells did ring, > You've ne'er heard such a merry thing! > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > Oh, I love you, and you love me! > > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > The Fly has married the Bumble Bee, > And then to think, > That of all of the flies, > The Bumble Bee should get the prize! > Fiddle-de-dee, Fiddle-de-dee, > Oh, I love you, and you love me! > > > -- > Jan Nijhuis > nijhuis@email.com > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >      
(back) Subject: Re: Interchangable Hymn Tunes From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:36:11 -0600   >From the United Methodist Hymnal, we often sing "All Hail the Power..." = to the simpler tune Coronation #154 for 4 verses(as written in F major), then =   modulate up to G major for verse 5, then go across the page to #155 for = the last verse to the tune Diadem in Ab. Nobody in my congregation can sing = all six verses to the much more energetic Diadem, but it is a real thrill to modulate up and open up the swells and sing at least one verse to the stronger tune. Kip in Missouri   ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: Interchangable Hymn Tunes     > In congregational singing, has anyone ever switched from one tune to > another recognized alternative tune for the final verse? > > For instance, in "How Firm a Foundation" > 1. vv 1-3 Begin singing with 'Portuguese Hymn Tune' ('Adeste Fidelis'); > 2. Descrescending interlude > 3. v. 4 (singing softly); > 4. Modulation between verses assending into playing through tune > "Foundation" > 5. Trumpet fanfare (Always need that!) > 6. V. 5 Singing to Tune "Foundation" > 7. ff full registration on last line, with sfz on 'A-MEN' > > > > David E > > David Evangelides > International Bible Society > devangelides@usa.ibs.org > 719-867-2729 > (Sent by wireless T-Mobile Sidekick) > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > >