PipeChat Digest #5171 - Tuesday, February 22, 2005
 
French vs American Strings
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Allen Organ Advertisment
  by <Joshwwhite@aol.com>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by <texstan@earthlink.net>
Re: Social Clubs and Heresies
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #5169 - 02/21/05
  by "David Baker" <dgb137@mac.com>
Re: sunrise services theologically unsound?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
RE: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
RE: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
Christa Rakich at Second Congregational Church, Hartford
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@comcast.net>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
RE: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
RE: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
Re: sunrise services theologically unsound?
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
RE: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com>
Re: A DELIGHTFUL AFTERNOON OF MUSIC (x post)
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: A DELIGHTFUL AFTERNOON OF MUSIC (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Allen Organ Advertisment
  by "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
 

(back) Subject: French vs American Strings From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:22:18 -0800   I grew up playing a 1925 Skinner, opus 515. It was a three manual organ with a 9 rank swell, a 4 rank choir, with the pedal and great having 1 = rank each - 15 ranks....   The Great: 8' Diapason, 8' Gedeckt (sw,) 8' Aeoline (sw,) 4' Flute (sw,) = 8' Flugel Horn (sw,) Chimes   The Choir: 8' Diapason, 8' Concert Flute, 4' Flute, 8' Clarinet, Tremolo   The Swell: 16' Bourdon, 8' Diapason, 8' Gedeckt, 8' Salicional, 8' Voix Celeste (CC,) 8' Aeoline, 4' Flute, 8' Flugel Horn, 8' Vox Humana, Tremolo   The Pedal: 16' Bourdon, 16' Echo Bourdon (sw,) 8' Gedeckt (ext,) 8' Still Gedeckt (sw,) Chimes (gt)   The Skinner opus list records it as a 3/14, and since the Vox Humana was absent by the time I was around and as young as I was I am not sure that stop was present when the instrument was new. However, several other Westfield Skinners in the region had the exact same specifications - the only difference being that some had a Cornopean as the main swell reed rather than the Flugel Horn (or in one case, Corno d'Amoure.)   I've been following the thread on French string tone in the various lists, and I remember early on definitely not liking the keen string celeste on = the Skinner - and upon entering college in 1980, I arrived in time to see a large 4 manual 60 rank 1929 Skinner being tossed out and replaced by a similar sized Holtkamp (however, it fit in one of the Skinner's 4 original chambers!) I was promptly taught all about how organ building in the "American Romantic" era had no redeemable virtues.   Well it is now 25 years later and here we are using complete enclosure, = and in some double enclosure of all divisions and reaching back to Hope-Jones for some purposes. As the world turns, indeed!   I remember hearing my first recordings of *real* French organs, with their Vox Humana tremolos running at 5000 rpm, and the very keen strings tuned with a fast beat. I remember thinking to myself that if I had been better educated, I would have respected the Skinner string tone more.   I don't like Viola Pomposa stops unless you can also have a pair of keener strings. I have played a number of Mollers from the late 50's and early 60's which had pairs of "Viole de Gambe et Viole Celestes" in the swell = that I think were some of the best "compromise" strings of the American Classic genre.   In my current instrument, we ran out of room and I opted to retain the = pair of Gemshorns, rather than replacing them with true strings. I thought it was important to have a pair of truly soft stops for improvisation. = However lovely, you can't really play the Vierne "Berceuse" effectively on these Celestes, and I am now considering adding a shallow enclosure in the = center of our gallery just to get these important elements into the instrument.   One final thought - in spite of the comments above, most of us have to = make choices. As an organist who is interested in playing literature, I would have rather used the space available and installed real strings rather = than keeping the original Gemshorn (flute dolce type) and Celeste. I currently have to improvise during the prayers of the people in my Episcopal parish. I do not like doing it and it was a directive from my rector (who I = respect highly and he is a well-trained musician in his own right.) Being that there is a sung response to each petition, I can see why he would want the continuity of music for flow, and it works OK. If I HAD originally = replaced our Gemshorns with true strings, I would not be able to provide = appropriate music to accompany these prayers, and for this reason, I am seeking a way = to add yet more to the organ to provide an important missing sound.   Our rebuilt Skinner console has an unused swell pedal (the original installation had an enclosed great, and I have a lovely small scaled Estey Doppelflute and chest just waiting to go in - I think I will try to get a pair of true keen strings, and install these, the Doppelflute, and an additional color reed in a new enclosure. Wish me luck!   Randy :-)   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California      
(back) Subject: Allen Organ Advertisment From: <Joshwwhite@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:50:00 EST     This has to be a joke. I received this advertisment this morning from the=20 Allen Organ Company. =20   Josh White       Allen Organs and Praise Bands make great music together!   Think about it: your organ has a speaker system all set up and ready for use= .. It is paid for. The speakers are located in great acoustic locations. They hit the highs and lows with enthusiasm   Why waste them when the organ isn't playing?   If your church loves its Praise Band, let them be easily heard! Allen's Expanded Audio Capabilities (EAC=E2=84=A2) Input Box works miracles.= =20 And, EAC can be easily added to many Allen organs.   Plug and play--it's that easy.   EAC allows your electric piano, keyboard and/or CD player to play through=20 your organ. It's simple to use. It costs little. And it's about the size of a family=20 bible.   Let your organ's speakers help you sing your praises!   Expanded Audio Capabilities (EAC=E2=84=A2)   Click on this link for exciting information about this Allen product.   http://www.allenorgan.com/www/products/eac/eac.html?p=3DSP     But that's not all!   Did you know many Allen organs already installed can easily sound like a=20 brass band or classical piano? Did you know you can have a large choir backing your regular choir?   The Allen Ensemble=E2=84=A2 puts the world of MIDI at your fingertips!   Hundreds of non-organ musical sounds can make your musical program special. The new Allen Ensemble=E2=84=A2 turns an Allen organ into a "stack of keyboa= rds!"=20 Produce all of the sounds of Praise and Worship music you need.   Use your Allen organ to play guitar, bass, drums, piano, strings, brass,=20 synthesizer and literally hundreds of other instrumental sounds as well!   Allen Ensemble=E2=84=A2, Console-top Unit   Click on this link for exciting information about this Allen product.   http://www.allenorgan.com/www/products/allenensemble.html     Yes! Allen Organs and Praise Bands can make great music together!  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: <texstan@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:00:15 -0600 (GMT-06:00)   Could not copy the message to the digest, there was no plain text part
(back) Subject: Re: Social Clubs and Heresies From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:06:34 +0000   On 2/21/05 5:05 PM, "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" = <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> wrote:   > I don't understand how someone can be so surprised to make it a serious = point > of discussion. We are leaving in a real world, i.e. statistics have = their > value.   Dear friend Hans:   I think you may have set two new records for the list:   1) A post more re-read than most.   2) A post more forwarded to friends and such than most.   You've surely deepened our respect and admiration for you.   Alan Freed  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:10:59 -0500   Josh,   I don't think this is a joke. Sounds like a VERY EXPENSIVE mixer/sound=20 system though. And the MIDI ENSEMBLE unit is little different than what=20 you get on a $1,000 Yamaha or Roland keyboard.   I suppose if organs are difficult to sell, you can always morph into=20 speakers and amplifiers kind of stuff. The engineering is already done.   Arie V.     At 10:50 AM 2005-02-22, you wrote: > >This has to be a joke. I received this advertisment this morning from the= =20 >Allen Organ Company. > >Josh White > > > >Allen Organs and Praise Bands >make great music together! > >Think about it: your organ has a speaker system all set up and ready for= use. >It is paid for. The speakers are located in great acoustic locations. >They hit the highs and lows with enthusiasm > >Why waste them when the organ isn't playing? > >If your church loves its Praise Band, let them be easily heard! >Allen's Expanded Audio Capabilities (EAC=99) Input Box works miracles. >And, EAC can be easily added too many Allen organs. > >Plug and play--it's that easy. >EAC allows your electric piano, keyboard and/or CD player to play through= =20 >your organ. >It's simple to use. It costs little. And it's about the size of a family=20 >bible. > >Let your organ's speakers help you sing your praises! > >Expanded Audio Capabilities (EAC=99) > >Click on this link for exciting information about this Allen product. > ><http://www.allenorgan.com/www/products/eac/eac.html?p=3DSP>http://www.alle= norgan.com/www/products/eac/eac.html?p=3DSP > >But that's not all! >Did you know many Allen organs already installed can easily sound like a=20 >brass band or classical piano? >Did you know you can have a large choir backing your regular choir? >The Allen Ensemble=99 puts the world of MIDI at your finngertips! >Hundreds of non-organ musical sounds can make your musical program special. >The new Allen Ensemble=99 turns an Allen organ into a "stack off= keyboards!" >Produce all of the sounds of Praise and Worship music you need. > >Use your Allen organ to play guitar, bass, drums, piano, strings, brass,=20 >synthesizer >and literally hundreds of other instrumental sounds as well! > >Allen Ensemble=99, Console-top Unit > >Click on this link for exciting information about this Allen product. > ><http://www.allenorgan.com/www/products/allenensemble.html>http://www.allen= organ.com/www/products/allenensemble.html > > >Yes! Allen Organs and Praise Bands can make great music together!   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263=20
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #5169 - 02/21/05 From: "David Baker" <dgb137@mac.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:46:52 -0500   I don't think debtor's prison is likely, but we already have collection activities into death and beyond! One of the reasons probate of a will takes so long is that the deceased person's creditors are allowed to make claims against the probate estate. Our government already has the right to place liens against personal property (such as cars, bank accounts and the like, even IRAs and 401k plans) and to collect against it after death. This is one reason why estate planning is so important. Anyone with more than minimal assets should see an estate planner and/or an attorney. (Not me; I don't do that type of law.) David Baker   On Feb 21, 2005, at 9:15 PM, PipeChat wrote:   > What would they do to a person in bankruptcy who actually cannot > pay back the money? > > Debtor's prison??? Real or imposed on the families with > collection activities into death and beyond?    
(back) Subject: Re: sunrise services theologically unsound? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:12:52 +0000   On 2/22/05 1:02 AM, "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote:   > although I personally don=B9t like sunrise services because I=B9m lazy, why a= re > they theologically not sound?   Glenda: I don=B9t think anybody could make a good case that they=B9re =B3theologically not sound.=B2 I don=B9t think about Druids at all!   And in some of the richest traditions (Moravian and Eastern Orthodox, etc.) such worship has a hoary tradition indeed=8Beven in such specific details as outdoor processions, festive eating, etc.   Far from being =B3theological=B2 I think the problems are more =B3practical.=B2 Ho= w much liturgical action can you CRAM into a space of 18 hours, especially since your (well, MY) body craves some sleep during some of those 18 hours?   You=B9ve GOT to do the Vigil (which takes surely 2 to 3 hours or more), and you=B9ve GOT to do at least one (and usually two or three) MAJOR services on Easter Day, at 90 minutes each, I suppose=8Bif only for the tourists and the twice-a-year crowd. What kind of a masochist do you have to be to want to do an Easter Sunrise service in BETWEEN those =B3poles=B2 of the 18 hours (whic= h I=B9m thinking of as 7 p.m. Saturday to 1 p.m. Sunday)?   (I remember when high Episcopalians had Easter Vigil on Saturday at 10 a.m.!=8B1960. I don=B9t think anyone attended.)   Having kicked off Lent with a pancake supper on Shrove Tuesday, I=B9d rather END Lent with blueberry waffles and sausages=8Bespecially if Glenda=B9s running the kitchen!   Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:33:09 -0500   I got the exact same advertisement in my inbox this morning too... as sad = as it is, I am afraid that is where most of the churches are going. Of = course, I doubt mine will... ok, ok, I hope mine won't... =3D)   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:38:20 -0000   We should all write to Allen and say something like 'Get a grip, it's your fault that church music is going the way it is going.'   Just a thought, D.S. -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Pepehomer@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2005 18:33 To: "PipeChat" Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment   I got the exact same advertisement in my inbox this morning too... as sad = as it is, I am afraid that is where most of the churches are going. Of = course, I doubt mine will... ok, ok, I hope mine won't... =3D)   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:39:32 -0000   Actually if anyone is seriously interested in that let me know privately = and we can write a letter together. D   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Scullion Sent: 22 February 2005 18:38 To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment   We should all write to Allen and say something like 'Get a grip, it's your fault that church music is going the way it is going.'   Just a thought, D.S. -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Pepehomer@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2005 18:33 To: "PipeChat" Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment   I got the exact same advertisement in my inbox this morning too... as sad = as it is, I am afraid that is where most of the churches are going. Of = course, I doubt mine will... ok, ok, I hope mine won't... =3D)   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Christa Rakich at Second Congregational Church, Hartford From: "mack02445" <mack02445@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:50:21 -0500   Sunday, I drove to Hartford Connecticut, from Brookline to hear Christa Rakich play at Second Congregational Church. It was the 6th Annual Mary M. James Organ Recital and the 350th Anniversary of the Church.   The organ is a lovely 3/35 Aeolian-Skinner, Opus 1181 from 1949 that was restored by the Thompson-Allen firm in 1995. I had heard this organ a year ago when Felix Hell gave this concert there and wanted to hear more of this organ. I had not had the pleasure of hearing Ms. Rakich play the organ before, but have heard her play harpsichord on several occasions as part of the Tuesdays with Sebastian Series in the Boston area with Peter Sykes. I was as impressed by her organ playing as I was of her Harpsichord performances and I reccomend to anyone if she plays in your area attend by all means. The program is as follows. I will mention that the improvisation on the hymn tune, the congregation sang two verses of the hymn before Ms. Rakich improvised on it. It was a truly excellent afternoon. I also thank Floyd Higgins for posting this concert to the lists so I was able to get there.   Prelude and Fugue in A Major, BWV 536 J.S. Bach Two settings of "O Traurigkeit, O Herzeleid " Johannes Brahms = Ethel Smyth Sonata in B-flat, Op. 65 No. 4 Felix = Mendelssohn /Allegro con brio Andante religioso Allegretto Allegro maestoso Intermission /Improvisation on Hymn Tune, "Allein Gott in der H=F6h" R=E9pons pour le temps de P=E2ques Jean = Demessieux / from 12 Chorale Preludes on Gregorian Themes, Opus 8 Rorate Coeli (Ornamented Chorale) Hosanna Filio David (Choral Fugue) Domine Jesu (Berceuse) Veni Creator Spiritus (Toccata) /From Symphonie No. 6 in G minor Charles-Marie Widor /Allegro /Nocturne (encore) [French] I did not get the composers name   Cheers, Mack  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:52:03 -0500     Hello,   See the word "finngertips" Is this a body part only Allen organists=20 have? It must be the 11th finger to pluck the G-string.   AV         At 10:50 AM 2005-02-22, you wrote: > >This has to be a joke. I received this advertisment this morning from the= =20 >Allen Organ Company. > >Josh White > > >The Allen Ensemble=99 puts the world of MIDI at your finngertips!    
(back) Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:40:41 -0500   We don't need to do that. In time, when they are selling less and less = organs and people only want speakers and input boxes, they'll get the = hint.   Scott Foppiano, Memphis TN  
(back) Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:45:07 -0000   I don't think that day will ever come. DS   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of ScottFop@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2005 19:41 To: "PipeChat" Cc: thazleton@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment   We don't need to do that. In time, when they are selling less and less organs and people only want speakers and input boxes, they'll get the = hint.   Scott Foppiano, Memphis TN   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Re: sunrise services theologically unsound? From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:51:41 -0500   speaking of ending lent, exactly what is the last day of lent? is it the = day before palm sunday, palm sunday itself, or the day before easter?   i gave up wine for lent, and want to know when i can expect to open that = bottle of syrah...   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:47:50 -0600   Is there a more expensive way to add a simple mixer to a sound system? I love Allen but really!...   Another mixer-related beef - we're looking at installing a Quantum in the next year or so. I'd like to include the extra reverb speaker option, mounted at the rear of the church. Given that we will have two speakers and amps mounted on the back wall, I'd like to add antiphonal switches and mix the signal into said rear-mounted units, thereby saving the cost and complication of additional speakers and amps for occasional antiphonal sound. According to Allen, can't be done. Period. End of story. Will not discuss further. Absolute nonsense and may end up a deal-breaker.   Russ Greene     On Feb 22, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Joshwwhite@aol.com wrote:   > Allen Organs and Praise Bands > make great music together!  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:24:23 -0500   Dear Russ, I will bet that the system that would send the signal to the = antiphonal speakers is just the reverb effect and not the entire signal = generated by the organ. You have that same choice when using Alesis = where you can adjust the amount of true signal versus the reverb effect = through the channels you choose to use the Alesis on. I would bet that = the Acoustical Portrait system does not allow the true signal to process = past the "black box." Just a guess though. Just ask for two more = channels, a switching mechanism and an extra set of speakers to parallel = the suggested system. Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russ Greene=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment     Is there a more expensive way to add a simple mixer to a sound system? = I love Allen but really!...   Another mixer-related beef - we're looking at installing a Quantum in = the next year or so. I'd like to include the extra reverb speaker = option, mounted at the rear of the church. Given that we will have two = speakers and amps mounted on the back wall, I'd like to add antiphonal = switches and mix the signal into said rear-mounted units, thereby saving = the cost and complication of additional speakers and amps for occasional = antiphonal sound. According to Allen, can't be done. Period. End of = story. Will not discuss further. Absolute nonsense and may end up a = deal-breaker.   Russ Greene     On Feb 22, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Joshwwhite@aol.com wrote:     Allen Organs and Praise Bands make great music together!  
(back) Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:28:34 -0600       -----Original Message----- From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:45:07 -0000 Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment   > I don't think that day will ever come. > DS > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > ScottFop@aol.com > > > We don't need to do that. In time, when they are selling less and less > organs and people only want speakers and input boxes, they'll get the > hint.   How about using guitar amps and speakers for the Allen Organ? Would it be cheaper and have the organ blend better with the ensemble?   http://www.fender.com/products/show.php?seek=3Dbassamplifiers_rumbleseries   These look pretty good.   Stan Lowkis   a Fender/Allen?      
(back) Subject: Re: A DELIGHTFUL AFTERNOON OF MUSIC (x post) From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:17:00 -0500   scott & others:   john peterson is an amazing performer... he's the ONLY person to ever = make me cry at bach. i remember thinking when i heard him play the fig = jug that this is bach himself playing. truly beyond mortal words.   my good friend, mary ragna yetter, was org/chm at lord of life lutheran = either when the ott was installed, or immediately after, and was largely = responsible for putting the church on the musical map. the organ is small = but exquisite, and the room is small but surprisingly reverberant.   glad you enjoyed the program, scott. if you see dr. peterson again, = please give him my regards.   scot stout (in spokane)  
(back) Subject: Re: A DELIGHTFUL AFTERNOON OF MUSIC (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:27:18 EST   Hi Scot   I sure will pass on your greetings!   -SF   Scott F. Foppiano Organist and Director of Parish Music Holy Rosary Catholic Church, Memphis, TN In te Domine speravi, non confundar in aeternum.  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organ Advertisment From: "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:30:07 +0800   I don't believe it is their fault at all. In our churches where the music =   has gone to "praise" music, it is largely the ministers who have = instigated the change. "We must be contemporary (misused expression), have change, = come up to date," and the junk is introduced regardless of the preference of = the people.. Bob Elms. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: RE: Allen Organ Advertisment     > We should all write to Allen and say something like 'Get a grip, it's = your > fault that church music is going the way it is going.' >       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 21/02/2005