PipeChat Digest #5188 - Monday, February 28, 2005
 
Re: Singing some Hebrew
  by "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com>
Re:Glenda's recital from hell
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Ode to Joy request
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: Ode to Joy request
  by "Richard Hazelip" <rhazelip1@yahoo.com>
Re: Ode to Joy request
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Re: My recital from hell
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
Re: NO ARIAS FOR ORGAN???
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
NPR Amazes
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
PipeChat IRC this evening,
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: My recital from hell
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Growing as Musicians (slightly related to desire for various actions-EP/ 
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: NO ARIAS FOR ORGAN???
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Ancient Weingarten Abbey recordings
  by "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk>
Music List - Lent 3 - 2/27/05
  by "Jack Martin" <jpmartin79848@yahoo.com>
Feast of St. David of Wales
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
RE: Feast of St. David of Wales
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Feast of St. David of Wales
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
Ernest M. Skinner
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Growing as Musicians (slightly related to desire for various actions-
  by <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
RE: Feast of St. David of Wales
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: My recital from hell
  by "cc" <belcanto@brainerd.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Singing some Hebrew From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:04:46 -0500   Subject: RE: Singing some Hebrew From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:57:22 -0000   From Will: "But no Alleluias in Lent eh? Yesterday, I was subbing at a = small Methodist Church which is part of a Methodist Community Centre in the centre of the city - close by the "red light" district. The first hymn was "Seek ye = first the Kingdom of God" - three verses, seven Alleluias in each =3D 21 Lenten Alleluias in total! Will I go to hell? I played them with great gusto!"   I think don't think your eternal soul is in jeopardy, but don't be = surprised if they invite you back to play for their Easter sunrise service. = Punishment enough <g>.          
(back) Subject: Re:Glenda's recital from hell From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:42:41 EST   Glenda--   Congratulations on making the major career change, as well as playing what =   looks like a very interesting program. I'm sure it went well. As long as = the people enjoyed it, don't sweat it. You can't worry about what stupid = people do with video cameras. You made it through--give it some time, and you'll be =   playing another one.   Brava!   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Ode to Joy request From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:20:50 -0500   Yesterday I was asked if I could play "Ode to Joy" for a wedding = recessional (the wedding is in late July, so I really did appreciate the = heads-up!) so does anyone know a good, "listenable" sheet music version = that I can order online? I have seen in the newspaper that this is = getting more popular and popular, so I may as well bite the bullet, order = it and learn it. And before I start my internet search, I figure I may = get some recommendations first, since this list usually comes up with them = fast!   Thanks!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: Ode to Joy request From: "Richard Hazelip" <rhazelip1@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 06:24:52 -0800 (PST)   Justin: this is only a suggestion, but why not work up your own version? = The tune is simple, and much can be done to "dress it up" without a great = deal of work. It would be a very effective way to introduce you to = improvising if you don't already do that. Richard   Pepehomer@aol.com wrote: Yesterday I was asked if I could play "Ode to Joy" for a wedding = recessional (the wedding is in late July, so I really did appreciate the = heads-up!) so does anyone know a good, "listenable" sheet music version = that I can order online? I have seen in the newspaper that this is getting = more popular and popular, so I may as well bite the bullet, order it and = learn it. And before I start my internet search, I figure I may get some = recommendations first, since this list usually comes up with them fast!   Thanks!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.
(back) Subject: Re: Ode to Joy request From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:14:52 -0600   Hi! A great one that I know of is "Processional of Joy," I believe, by Hal Hopson. It is written in a trumpet tune style, sort of ala Purcell or Clark. I find it very useful for what you mentioned as well as for a hymn introduction. It is a perfect example of what Richard Hazelip mentioned, it is dressed up without too much trouble. It is also a great springboard for improvisations.     Blessings, Beau Surratt      
(back) Subject: Re: My recital from hell From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:25:07 -0500   Ah yes, the video photographer from hell! He must have relatives in upstate New York. At one recital I attended, the video guy -- complete with several bright spotlight -- walked up onstage to capture the moment. The organ console was detached, there was walking room around it, and since the organist's face wasn't going to be visible otherwise, the photographer walked around in back of the console, spotlights still blazing, and proceeded to fire away, blinding the organist in the process. At that point, the organist had no choice but to stop and invite the photographer to leave. The organist's recovery after such a harrowing experience was remarkable.   At least we knew where this guy came from since his TV station letters were emblazoned on his equipment. All publicity isn't necessarily good publicity!   Steve Best in Utica, NY       Glenda wrote:   > Then just as I started to play, a guy with a video camera came out of >nowhere and up in my face. I tried to be polite - get your photo and >out of my way, I thought. But he didn't leave - he was at my elbow >during the entire first piece. >      
(back) Subject: Re: NO ARIAS FOR ORGAN??? From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:34:23 -0500   I wasn't going to jump into this "no arias for organ" thing because it seems to pointless. However, Norton's "New College Encyclopedia of Music" by Westrup and Harrison of Oxford University, gives a second definition for "aria": "An instrumental piece of a song-like character, e.g. the theme of Bach's Goldberg Variations." I'll keep playing the many organ arias that are in my library without giving their titles a second thought.   Steve Best in Utica, NY   Desiree' wrote:   > Yes, I completely agree on pieces called arias. However, in apology to > someone that I seemed to have misquote, I will write what a musician > told me in an off-list email. This is to insure against misquoting. > > Here we go: > A Music Dictionary primarily defines an aria as a vocal work. > "...98% of the time, an Aria will be a vocal work OR a transcription > of a vocal work...." > I was further told that when a lyrical work is written for an > instrument the "...work is an 'air'...it is more often called arioso > or air". The actual term "...aria doesn't necessarily equate to a > lyrical piece." The person who informed me of this states that the > "...term is'nt interchangeable"        
(back) Subject: NPR Amazes From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:24:08 -0500   Dear Lists and Others,   This morning, in the middle of "Morning Edition" on NPR, I heard, to my amazement, a short feature about the Barker Lever and Cavaille-Coll, this with an Organ Music background (Marie Claire, Piece Heroique). I almost dropped my teeth, except that even at this late stage, they are still = firmly anchored! This was one in a regular series of essays under the name: "The Engines of Our Ingenuity." This seems not to be carried by all NPR = stations during "Morning Edition," none in New York, for example, but you can read and hear this via this link:   http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1973.htm   There are interesting drawings and a number of useful links.   The segment is remarkable both because of its quality, and also because of =   the very fact that there was a piece about the Barker Lever and Cavaille-Coll coming into my kitchen on public airways! We owe the program =   and the whole "Engines of Our Ingenuity"series to John Lienhard, not an Organist, at University of Houston. As far as I know, this is the only = time the Pipe Organ has been a subject.   Please enjoy.   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com      
(back) Subject: PipeChat IRC this evening, From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:58:05 -0500   All members of PipeChat are invited to join us in the PipeChat IRC any Friday and Monday evening - beginning at 9.00 PM Eastern Time.   To find out more about the Chat room, or how to get into it, go to PipeChat-L web page at http://www.pipechat.org/   You will find out all you need to know to join us.   Tonight at 9.00 PM, - I hope that we will see you there.   Cheers,   Bob Conway     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: My recital from hell From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:57:56 -0500   In a message dated 2/28/2005 10:25:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Stephen = Best <stevebest@usadatanet.net> writes:   >At that point, the organist had no choice but to stop and invite the = photographer to leave. =A0The organist's recovery after such a harrowing = experience was remarkable. > >Steve Best in Utica, NY   this spring i'll be playing my first recital in over 10 years. such = videographic horrors were unknown to me back then. i do plan to have my = event videorecorded by a professional who also happens to be a choir = member. after reading of glenda's nightmare experience, i think i'll post = some bouncers, um... ushers in the narthex, just in case.   anybody have more suggestions? i have no qualms about stopping the = performance and tackling an intruder myself. in fact, that might draw a = bigger audience at a subsequent event.   scot  
(back) Subject: Growing as Musicians (slightly related to desire for various actions-EP/ M ) From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:18:54 -0800 (PST)   A gentleman from the list, who is a wise and newly made mentor, offered this comment: It is perfectly acceptable to say "what I once thought, I no longer believe...and I hope my opinions never get so firm that there's no room for growth."   Another comment I am reminded of, I heard at a conference for Sacred Musicians. While I don't agree with a lot that particular person does, it was a good comment. But it was along the lines of this: when you get one degree (B Mus, M Mus, etc), there is nothing to follow that but a comma, so that we certainly do continue to learn.   I grew when I left home to like trackers. I have grown since my last church-job to see that lights, spinny wheels to change voices, are not always the solution, but at the time, anything was better than what was there. I have grown to see that there are some digital organ companies that are superior to "stock model" makers.   How have others grown as musicians?     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: NO ARIAS FOR ORGAN??? From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:08:30 EST   "Aria for Anna" (2004) - D Major by Dale G. Rider, MSacredMus, CAGO Organist, Composer/Arranger, Music Engraver Scored for Violin solo, organ accompaniment (Edition 1) Organ Solo (Edition II) Wasn't it Mendelssohn who wrote "Song Without Words"? Surely no one = could "fuss" with that piece having a sub-title of "Aria."    
(back) Subject: Ancient Weingarten Abbey recordings From: "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:17:54 +0100   While looking for infos about the Weingarten organ, I stumbled over this German document: http://www.dra.de/dok_0704.htm. Even if you can't read German, you may listen to recordings made in 1938 by Hermann Feifel! Fascinating, to say the least -- and the organ sounded magnificent even then!   Jarle http://jarle.moo.no  
(back) Subject: Music List - Lent 3 - 2/27/05 From: "Jack Martin" <jpmartin79848@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:34:38 -0800 (PST)   Genesis Presbyterian Church Austin, Texas   Hymn - Crashing Waters at Creation (tune ARISE) Decalogue - David Gambrell Psalter - Psalm 95 - David Haas Gospel Acclamation - Glory to God - Jeremy Young Hymn - Tree of Life (tune THOMAS) Offertory - Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring - J. S. Bach Doxology - Jimmy Owens Solo - Wade in the Water - Spiritual Sanctus - Jeremy Young Memorial Acclamation - Gloria Anderson Amen - Jeremy Young Agnus Dei - Jeremy Young Taste and See - George Misulia Hymn - Walk On, O People of God (tune NUEVA CREACION) Closing Voluntary - Little Fugue in A minor - J. S. Bach     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Feast of St. David of Wales From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:01:20 -0000   Dear All,     Just a reminder about what you already know I am sure. Tomorrow is the = grand feast of Saint David and I do hope that most people have played the hymn Guide Me O Thou Great Jehovah (Cwm Rhondda) recently.     Sure you all have, but beast of a hymn like that doesn't really need an excuse to be played now does it?     Yours aye,     Dominic    
(back) Subject: RE: Feast of St. David of Wales From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:08:56 +1300   >Tomorrow is the grand feast of Saint David and I do hope that most = people have played the hymn Guide Me O Thou Great Jehovah (Cwm Rhondda) = recently. Sure you all have, but beast of a hymn like that doesn=92t really need = an excuse to be played =A0now does it?   No, no excuse at all needed. Mind if I stand near the console? I'd like = to roar out the bass part.   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: Feast of St. David of Wales From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:08:49 -0000   Go right ahead Ross. Personally I'll be on that magnificent descending = scale of the tenor part while playing away. Great fun! Dom   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of TheShieling Sent: 28 February 2005 23:09 To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Feast of St. David of Wales   >Tomorrow is the grand feast of Saint David and I do hope that most = people have played the hymn Guide Me O Thou Great Jehovah (Cwm Rhondda) = recently. Sure you all have, but beast of a hymn like that doesn=92t really need = an excuse to be played =A0now does it?   No, no excuse at all needed. Mind if I stand near the console? I'd like = to roar out the bass part.   Ross     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Ernest M. Skinner From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:17:22 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)   >>I would have to add: The Jury Is Still Out=0D =0D This is unbelievable, but I will respond for the sake of those who migh= t not be familiar with Mr. Skinner's work.=0D =0D Ernest Skinner's list of notable instruments outnumbers most builders' entire opus lists. Among Mr. Skinner's many many notable instruments:=0D =0D Brick Presbyterian, NYC=0D Carnegie Institute Music Hall, Pittsburgh, PA=0D Cleveland Auditorium, Cleveland, OH=0D Christ Church Cathedral, Hartford, CT=0D Civic Auditorium, Saint Paul, MN=0D Finney Chapel, Oberlin, OH=0D Girard College Chapel, Philadelphia, PA=0D Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, MI=0D Holy Rosary Cathedral, Toledo, OH=0D Kilbourne Hall, Eastman School=0D Jordan Hall, New England Conservatory of Music=0D Municipal Auditorium, Portland, OR=0D National Cathedral, Washington=0D Princeton University, Princeton, NJ=0D Royce Hall, Los Angeles=0D Sage Chapel, Cornell=0D Severance Hall, Cleveland, OH=0D St. Bartholomew's, NYC=0D St. John the Divine, NYC=0D St. Luke's Episcopal, Evanston, IL=0D St. Paul's Church, Winston-Salem, NC=0D St. Peter's Church, Morristown, NJ=0D St. Thomas' Church, NYC=0D The Toledo Museum of Art, Toledo, OH=0D Trinity Church, Copley Square, Boston, MA=0D Trinity Church, NYC=0D Woolsey Hall, Yale=0D =0D Ernest Skinner's smallest organs were built with the same quality and craftsmanship as his large ones. Mr. Skinner used only the finest materi= als and methods possible to construct his organs. Ernest Skinner spent his l= ife making his organs in the best manner possible, mechanically and tonally.=20 The building frames ample, the swell mechanisms thick and precisely made,= no short-cabling, all cables neatly laid out and strapped to the building frames, bass pipes looped on to their stays, etc...=0D =0D Through his work he gave us the electro-pneumatic pitman windchest - th= e time tested e-p chest that is copied to this very day. Mr. Skinner inclu= ded many clever seldom-mentioned features into his chests to make them stand = up to humidity and temperature changes. Mr. Skinner's wind chests were and = are virtually bullet-proof.=0D =0D Mr. Skinner invented an ingenious electro-pneumatic multiplexed player mechanism, and sold quite a few of them. Notable organists recorded hundreds of rolls for these fantastic roll player organs.=0D =0D Mr. Skinner was not only a clever inventor but a thoroughly musical man= , and through his hard work he refined the voices of the pipe organ to an unmatched level of quality and musicality. Mr. Skinner gave us the Erzah= ler the Skinner French Horn, the Skinner Flute Celeste, among others.=0D =0D The Jury read the verdict back a long time ago, and each of his organs that have not been foolishly destroyed speak to the genius of Mr. Skinner= , and attest to fact that he was indeed a GREAT American organ-builder.=0D =0D - Nate
(back) Subject: Re: Growing as Musicians (slightly related to desire for various actions-EP/ M ) From: <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:31:40 +0000   I think that what we learn, both as humans and musicians, through = experience (meaning, yes, you have to TRY), what our limitations indeed are, and what = we can and cannot do. We, while being positive and nurturing of of ourselves = and others, must make a realistic evaluation of where we are and what do to improve. If I were to go in and play a concert in which I didn't feel confident, because of amount of time I'd spent on a piece, I would know = that next time that I needed to start earlier and work more effeciently   Let's face it, we are given different talents, some are more talented = sight readers than others, while others may be more gifted as being "musical". = We have to be honest to ourselves and with our goals. As an older, more experienced, retired band teacher told me, "your are still a visionary, = which is good, but then reality sets in and things happen very differently".   In short, we must prepare each piece to the BEST of our ability with = whatever gifts we have been given.     Jon Kroepel  
(back) Subject: RE: Feast of St. David of Wales From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:37:19 +1300   >Go right ahead Ross. Personally I'll be on that magnificent descending scale of the tenor part while playing away. Great fun! Dom   Thanks. I forgot to mention that I always go down an octave for the last line of the tune (even the really seriously bottom Ab when I'm feeling in good voice). Is that still OK, then?   It has its fun being a basso profundissimo. Recently a new fellow joined a 150-vocie non-church choir I belong to. He joined the basses, found me sitting next to him where I had fun doing the bass part an octave down. = So, thinking he must be a tenor, he joined that lot the following week - and couldn't join in with them either! Luckily, someone wised him up before he left us. He's rejoined the bass line and I've promised to behave................   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: My recital from hell From: "cc" <belcanto@brainerd.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:39:59 -0600   What rudeness. I thought most photographers asked permission before = taking photos or videos. Maybe they don't HAVE to ask, but most of the ones I've run across are polite enough to do so. Apparantly this "mystery" photographer wasn't.   Carla C     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> > Then just as I started to play, a guy with a video camera came out of > nowhere and up in my face. I tried to be polite - get your photo and > out of my way, I thought. But he didn't leave - he was at my elbow > during the entire first piece. By the end he had escaped to the altar > area, and I good-naturedly informed him in front of the crowd that I was > an attorney, and he was lucky I didn't wrestle him to the ground. I > even asked that he stay out of my space for the rest of the recital. > But then he was right back during the Mendelssohn. I whispered for him > to get away, but he persisted. I began shaking uncontrollably - don't > know how I got through the piece. I can't remember the pedal portion of > the Mendelssohn near the end. > > When I stood up to take a bow, he was still standing next to me. I > turned to him and told him in a low voice but no uncertain terms to > remove himself from the recital - that I was not good enough to > withstand his being in my face. He finally left, but I was visibly > shaking for the rest of the recital - my page-turner even noticed it. I > haven't been that angry in a very long time. I think I might have spent > the night in jail for aggravated battery had he not left. I cannot even > remember much of the recital, except the several episodes when I had to > will my left fingers to move. I know it was only by the grace of God > that I made it through. Thank God the St. Anne fugue went swimmingly - > I barely noticed the screaming child. > > Afterward everyone was effusive with praise, most of them extremely > happy that I chased the photographer away, because he stood between the > audience and me the entire time he was there. No one knew where he came > from. But once I made it through the reception and arrived back home, I > was still angry. All that time and effort to do my very best for what > was probably my last recital, all the trouble I took to avoid extreme > anxiety, to prepare for all contingencies, and all jinxed by an > obnoxious photographer. Even after dinner with Chinese food and a > fortune cookie with "be prepared for a sudden, needed, and happy change > in plans" and a new Chinese word - 'lu shi' - "lawyer", I was still > shaking inside. If I see him again . . . .