PipeChat Digest #5091 - Sunday, January 16, 2005
 
Re: Questions given on Enrichment Music
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Alex and Colin
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: "Here I Am, Lord"
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Alex and Colin
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Web Site update with MP3s and new photograph
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
blower problems
  by <Doubltrump@aol.com>
Re: Alex and Colin
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: "Here I Am, Lord"
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Buzz
  by "Malcolm Kogut" <mkogut@capital.net>
Re: Buzz
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Buzz
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Buzz
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
Returned email.
  by "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: blower problems
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: blower problems
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: blower problems
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
RE: "Here I Am, Lord"
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: blower problems
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Buzz
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Martha, Martha, Martha,
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: blower problems
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Questions given on Enrichment Music From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:10:07 EST   Hi D.   Take Kent Trittle's example at St. Ignatius NYC. Run a high class music program and don't back down to the current nonsense. He just went about his work, and some fellow caught him after Mass one Sunday with a big check, and the Mander Organ became a reality.   I like stories like this. I just read this too.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Alex and Colin From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:18:58 -0500   Hi Gang!   Hasn't this horse been flogged enough? For my part, I would hope that it has, and that we can get back to our "regular programming" as soon as we = can!   Bob Conway   At 04:09 PM 1/15/2005, Bob North wrote:   >>>From: Colin Mitchell <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> >" who are this stupid." > >If you go back and read Alex's last post, he asked an interesting >question, but the last sentence was not appropriate. Tim is correct in >removing him, at least for now. Mr Mitchell's comments are also not >appropriate. This list is supposed to be for professional types = interested >in the pipe organ. I think Mr Mitchell should appologise to the rest of >the list for his inappropriate comments, then we should carry on and try >and bring the tone of this site up to a standard all of us would like to >see on PipeChat. > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: "Here I Am, Lord" From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:26:11 -0500   I remain continuously concerned that this hymn is a very subtle theological escape-mechanism hymn. To wit:   the refrain text: "Here I am , Lord...I have heard you calling...I will go, Lord, if you = lead me...."   For starters, the Lord calls various of us to various purposes, and = not all are called to the same purpose, just as not all are given the same = gifts of the Spirit. But the Lord DOES CALL!!   But this refrain seems to be saying that even after we are called, we go IF the Lord leads us.   Is there any doubt that the Lord is leading us when He calls us? Of course, not. But this tentative idea that we will go IF the Lord leads becomes a subtle way out of discipleship: "the Lord didn't lead me to do what he called me to do, so it's His fault, not mine, that I didn't go. Thus, I'm off the hook."   So it's easy to stand in church and sing a pious song of what might = seem like pious commitment and then go out and do nothing -- and to placate = one's self that, since the Lord didn't lead me, I'm scott free.   Talk about a handy excuse for failure to carry the Gospel into the world!!!! But it makes you feel good, eh?   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Alex and Colin From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:31:34 -0600   Bob,   I totally agree....maybe if everyone ignores the kids they'll move = on...I'm all for encouraging "Young Organists", but not to the degree that we let them walk all over us. As for Tim and David watching...I applaud their patience.   JCH     At 03:18 PM 1/15/05, you wrote:   >Hi Gang! > >Hasn't this horse been flogged enough? For my part, I would hope that it =   >has, and that we can get back to our "regular programming" as soon as we = can! > >Bob Conway From: "Young Organists Online" <youngorganistsonline@hotmail.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: *ADMIN POST* re: Tonal Styles   Colin,   I'm sorry but I've about had it here, especially toward Alex, who did nothing at all to merit being banned.... Are David and Tim even = watching???   Landon        
(back) Subject: Web Site update with MP3s and new photograph From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:37:10 EST   Ladies and Gentlemen:   Some minor additions have been made to our website:   http://www.glucknewyork.com/alexander/alexander.html   will take you to the stoplist and photo page for Opus 8, Alexander Chapel, which has a link to the bottom that gets you to the CD listing and two = MP3s, one of Lubeck, one of Handel, each about six minutes long.   http://www.glucknewyork.com/projects/proj_compl_coldspring.html   will take you to the stoplist and photo page for Opus 10, Our Lady of Loretto, to which has been added an image of the new polychromed carving above the keydesk.   All photographs on the site may be enlarged by clicking on them. Enjoy.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City   ..  
(back) Subject: blower problems From: <Doubltrump@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:39:16 EST   From Tom White doubltrump@aol.com Director of Music, & Organist Bridgehampton Presby. Church   Dear List:   I have been mystified by a mysterious moan coming from my blower unit.   The unit is 2 stories above the church in the tower and takes in air from = the ceiling in the church.   it is a Spencer Unit dating from the original installation (1934) S/N of the blower is 25182 the only rating on it is 5" I am told that there are no bearings on the fan shaft in the blower; that = the fan is supported only on the two motor bearings.   The Motor is a Century Motor Co. unit 2 Horse power / 1165 RPM it has 'grease cups' for lubrication to the bearings. Lubrication is advised that every 6 months screw half the capful down = unless under excessive use.   The Motor information is below   Century Repulsion start induction Single Phase 220 V type RS frame P10BBB Amp 12.5 60 Cycles s/n D 1011 spec 5877J patents in 1914 & 1915.     The moaning starts within two minutes of turning it on and dissipates = often within 2 minutes although one time it carried on for 10 minutes before it silenced... After that initial moan on start up, it doesn't moan if it is = warmed up.   I had my technician in and the technician advised to put an extensive 2-3 capfuls of grease down the fan end of the motor. We did that with no success -- the grease would not work down the tube. = We then considered if the grease had hardened and attempted to break up any = clog with a small wire worked in the tube. After that some 10 capfuls were = added with no success (noise kept up).   Upon further inspection, it is suspected that the front (opposite the fan) =   may be indeed where the noise is coming from.   After contacting Spencer their local rep suggested we replace the bearing = in the noisy end. Approx. 30 years is good for motor bearing.   I am in search of a part number for the bearing or any other helpful information that someone can offer.   I have tried to search for Century Motor company with no success. I was told that perhaps Lincoln had bought them out.   Any help will be appreciated.   Tom white   doubltrump@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Alex and Colin From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:38:42 -0500     On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:18:58 -0500 Bob Conway <conwayb@sympatico.ca> writes: > Hi Gang! > > Hasn't this horse been flogged enough? For my part, I would hope > that it has, and that we can get back to our "regular programming" as soon > as we can!       It seems to me that we would all do better to ignore the occasional thoughtless sentence tossed into an otherwise responsible e-mail. If real flaming starts, then action must be taken.   The time and energy wasted on this is hideous.   However: "We" are not the list owners. When we subscribed, we agreed to follow the rules and accept the judgment of the list owners.   Can't take it? Start your own list.     Jim                                       They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.  
(back) Subject: Re: "Here I Am, Lord" From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:27:22 +0000   On 1/15/05 9:26 PM, "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> wrote:   > But this refrain seems to be saying that even after we are called, we go = IF > the Lord leads us. >=20 > Is there any doubt that the Lord is leading us when He calls us? Of cour= se, > not. But this tentative idea that we will go IF the Lord leads becomes a > subtle way out of discipleship: "the Lord didn't lead me to do what he c= alled > me to do, so it's His fault, not mine, that I didn't go. Thus, I'm off th= e > hook."   Karl, if you were a lesser thinker than you are, I'd LEAP to agree very muc= h with you--on the theory/assumption that =B3poor you=B2 needs my (allegedly wonderful) support.   That is NOT the case. And I don=B9t know of any convenient =B3Me too!=B2 mechanism for this circumstance. So, with that caution/disclaimer, I say: =B3You speak well, Brother!=B2   Thank you.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Buzz From: "Malcolm Kogut" <mkogut@capital.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:23:52 -0500   I am temporarily playing on an Allen and there is a buzz in the speakers when the lights are turned on. What is causing this? Wiring?   -Malcolm. mkogut@capital.net Rotterdam, NY    
(back) Subject: Re: Buzz From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:52:07 EST     In a message dated 1/15/05 4:41:23 PM, mkogut@capital.net writes:     > I am temporarily playing on an Allen and there > is a buzz in the speakers when the lights are > turned on.=A0=A0 What is causing this?=A0 Wiring? >=20 > -Malcolm. > mkogut@capital.net > Rotterdam, NY >=20   i think its a grounding problem...also--if the wires for the organ speakers=20 must cross electrical lines anywhere, it should be done at a 90 degree angle= .. =20 call an electrician.       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Buzz From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:03:14 EST   The speakers have obviously been drinking too many martinis. Check the = liquor cabinet and maybe put a lock on it.  
(back) Subject: Re: Buzz From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:38:50 -0800   Hello Malcolm,   What type of lights are they. Florescent or lights with dimmers? These = two types can put out a considerable amount of EMI (Electro Magnetic = Interference) due to the way they operate. Newer ones have some EMI = suppression built in.   Check all of your audio cables for frayed or broken shields. Check the = organs system ground as well as the buildings ground system.   I does sound like a case of EMI caused by a faulty lamp, but if there is = a problem in the organ or house grounding system, then the organ will be = more susceptible to the interference.   Vern ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gfc234@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Buzz       In a message dated 1/15/05 4:41:23 PM, mkogut@capital.net writes:       I am temporarily playing on an Allen and there is a buzz in the speakers when the lights are turned on. What is causing this? Wiring?   -Malcolm. mkogut@capital.net Rotterdam, NY       i think its a grounding problem...also--if the wires for the organ = speakers must cross electrical lines anywhere, it should be done at a 90 = degree angle. call an electrician.       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net    
(back) Subject: Returned email. From: "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:11:43 +0800   I have a post returned twice for no apparent reason. Here it is again. Bob Elms.   I don't know what goes on here but twice I have had returned from pipechat an email on the grounds that it appears to contain an enclosure. There = was no enclosure intended and none that I can see. My post was regarding the current discussion on "praise songs" in church services.   I recently attended a service in a church where there was a praise band = led by a young soprano. Her voice was pleasant enough but she was amplified to the extent of pain in my ears and I got out after about 15 minutes. The young set can deafen themselves with loud music if they like but they can count me out!   Noise is not "praise" as far as I am concerned; I like loud organ music within reason, and play some myself but when it comes to the threshold of pain in a workshop the employer would be fined for exceeding the limit of permissible noise. Why is the restraint not put on popular music? = Sometimes I can hear cars approaching with the sound of drums before I can see the car. The sides of the vehicle are positively pulsing with the level of sound. Surely the occupant, almost always young, is either deaf already, hence the need for loud sound, or else will be before very long. Noise at that level should have no place in a church.   I read one post about the quality of the music in one church. I play frequently for Saturday evening mass in a Catholic Church. With some of = the praise songs used I have to think hard to get away from the idea that the song is a boy singing to his girl friend about love, and not a hymn to the risen Saviour. This cloying sentimentality does nothing for me. Bob Elms.           -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005    
(back) Subject: Re: blower problems From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:39:28 EST   In a message dated 1/15/2005 4:40:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Doubltrump@aol.com writes: I am in search of a part number for the bearing or any other helpful information that someone can offer.   I have tried to search for Century Motor company with no success. I was told that perhaps Lincoln had bought them out.   Any help will be appreciated.   Tom white what you (or your organ maintenance firm) will need to do is to dismount = the fans from the shaft (be absolutely SURE that you mark the exact position = of the fans on the shaft so they can be accurately reinstalled), then take = the motor to a local >reputable< motor shop to have the bearings (do both the = bearings while the motor is out) replaced. the motor shop will be able to measure = the shaft and bearing housings to fit new bearings, and may be able to get the =   bearing numbers off the old bearings if they were thus marked. They should = also do the brushes and clean the armature and clean the throw-out mechanism = while they are working on the motor.   when you move the motor DO NOT use the shaft as a handle...if you bend the =   shaft, that will be a disaster...and you may end up installing a new = blower...a $350 repair bill suddenly becomes a $3500 repair bill.   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: blower problems From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:59:32 -0500   As Rick recommends a full rebuild is probably in order. Those old = Century motors are not built any more. However they are designed to last = forever and can be rebuilt. A good electric motor shop is a must. This = is not a do it yourself job. Replacement motors can be purchased but = Repulsion-Induction motors like Century's are expensive. A Capacitor = Start motor will work but you will find it tends to start too violently = and will cause the impellers to come loose much more often - usually = with disastrous results. Also new motors have different shaft sizes and lengths than the old = motors. This can add a lot to the cost of a replacement.   The moaning sound can also be a set of bad brushes or a sticky throw out = mechanism which will cause the motor to run much slower than usual for a = long time when it starts up. If you see a lot of sparks and flashes from = the commutator when the motor starts up or continues after about 5-10 = seconds you have a problem.   Also as Rick says Make sure you mark every piece and reinstall it = exactly as it was when you took it apart. Any slight goof up can turn a = good blower into a "ships anchor" in seconds.   Nelson Denton Who has fixed dozens of those monsters.
(back) Subject: Re: blower problems From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:23:45 -0500   On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:59:32 -0500 "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> writes: The moaning sound can also be a set of bad brushes or a sticky throw out mechanism which will cause the motor to run much slower than usual for a long time when it starts up. If you see a lot of sparks and flashes from the commutator when the motor starts up or continues after about 5-10 seconds you have a problem.         Dear List:   I was going to say much the same thing.   Just watch the motor as it starts up. After anywhere from 3 to 10 seconds, you should hear an audible clack sound as the motor kicks onto the running windings and achieves full speed.   If you think that it is hanging up on the start windings, there is an easy fix.   There is room to reach through the open rear casing of the motor with crocus cloth and clean and polish the commutator. (Spin the motor BY HAND as necessary to clean it all the way around.) If the buildup is excessive you might have to use some 400 grit wet-or-dry first. It is best to follow that with a good polishing with the crocus cloth.   Provided there is sufficient brush material left, this is fix should hold you quite a long while. (Provided this e-diagnosis is on the mark.)   Jim       On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:59:32 -0500 "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> writes: As Rick recommends a full rebuild is probably in order. Those old Century motors are not built any more. However they are designed to last forever and can be rebuilt. A good electric motor shop is a must. This is not a do it yourself job. Replacement motors can be purchased but Repulsion-Induction motors like Century's are expensive. A Capacitor Start motor will work but you will find it tends to start too violently and will cause the impellers to come loose much more often - usually with disastrous results. Also new motors have different shaft sizes and lengths than the old motors. This can add a lot to the cost of a replacement.   The moaning sound can also be a set of bad brushes or a sticky throw out mechanism which will cause the motor to run much slower than usual for a long time when it starts up. If you see a lot of sparks and flashes from the commutator when the motor starts up or continues after about 5-10 seconds you have a problem.   Also as Rick says Make sure you mark every piece and reinstall it exactly as it was when you took it apart. Any slight goof up can turn a good blower into a "ships anchor" in seconds.   Nelson Denton Who has fixed dozens of those monsters.               They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.
(back) Subject: RE: "Here I Am, Lord" From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:34:19 -0600   Good point, Karl. I guess I'm happy not to know this musical number. As a liberal Calvinist, I guess I don't have to worry about such niceties.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com   (who was 'called' Friday and offered a new job, but didn't feel 'led' to take it, and felt really good about the offer and the rejection, but I know that's not what you're talking about, so bad analogy)     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Karl Moyer   For starters, the Lord calls various of us to various purposes, and not all are called to the same purpose, just as not all are given the same gifts of the Spirit. But the Lord DOES CALL!!   But this refrain seems to be saying that even after we are called, we go IF the Lord leads us.   Is there any doubt that the Lord is leading us when He calls us? Of course, not. But this tentative idea that we will go IF the Lord leads becomes a subtle way out of discipleship: "the Lord didn't lead me to do what he called me to do, so it's His fault, not mine, that I didn't go. Thus, I'm off the hook."          
(back) Subject: Re: blower problems From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:48:59 -0500   Dear Tom, Normally, most motor manufacturers do not or did not make thier own bearings but purchased them from a bearing manufacturer. If you remove the bearing, or if you can read the outer edge, of the bearing, there should = be some numbers there and the name of the manufacurer. Sometime it is in the inner race, (the part around the shaft). If you can mic the bearing, outside diameter of the bearing and the outside diameter = of the shaft, and the thickness of the bearing (from the top) that should be enough information to then contact a bearing house and have them find a replacement. Good luck. You might just go toa sealed bearing this time and forget hte oiling of that end in the future. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <Doubltrump@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: blower problems     > From Tom White > doubltrump@aol.com > Director of Music, & Organist > Bridgehampton Presby. Church > > Dear List: > > I have been mystified by a mysterious moan coming from my blower unit. > > The unit is 2 stories above the church in the tower and takes in air = from the > ceiling in the church. > > it is a Spencer Unit dating from the original installation (1934) > S/N of the blower is 25182 > the only rating on it is 5" > I am told that there are no bearings on the fan shaft in the blower; = that the > fan is supported only on the two motor bearings. > > The Motor is a Century Motor Co. unit > 2 Horse power / 1165 RPM > it has 'grease cups' for lubrication to the bearings. > Lubrication is advised that every 6 months screw half the capful down unless > under excessive use. > > The Motor information is below > > Century Repulsion start induction > Single Phase 220 V > type RS > frame P10BBB > Amp 12.5 > 60 Cycles > s/n D 1011 > spec 5877J > patents in 1914 & 1915. > > > The moaning starts within two minutes of turning it on and dissipates often > within 2 minutes although one time it carried on for 10 minutes before = it > silenced... After that initial moan on start up, it doesn't moan if it = is warmed up. > > I had my technician in and the technician advised to put an extensive = 2-3 > capfuls of grease down the fan end of the motor. > We did that with no success -- the grease would not work down the tube. We > then considered if the grease had hardened and attempted to break up any clog > with a small wire worked in the tube. After that some 10 capfuls were added > with no success (noise kept up). > > Upon further inspection, it is suspected that the front (opposite the = fan) > may be indeed where the noise is coming from. > > After contacting Spencer their local rep suggested we replace the = bearing in > the noisy end. Approx. 30 years is good for motor bearing. > > I am in search of a part number for the bearing or any other helpful > information that someone can offer. > > I have tried to search for Century Motor company with no success. > I was told that perhaps Lincoln had bought them out. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Tom white > > doubltrump@aol.com > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Buzz From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:50:31 +0800   Induction from an AC cables running parallel to the speaker cables? Non-shielded cables? Amplifier(s) not grounded? Reverse polarity? Electro magnetic noise from fluorescent lights?     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Kogut" <mkogut@capital.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Buzz Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:23:52 -0500   >=20 > I am temporarily playing on an Allen and there > is a buzz in the speakers when the lights are > turned on. What is causing this? Wiring? >=20 > -Malcolm. > mkogut@capital.net > Rotterdam, NY   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Martha, Martha, Martha, From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:47 -0800   =3D-> Martha, Martha, Martha, Oh Martha, MARTHA, MARTHA, the cows, the big cows, the brown cows, the black cows the white cows, the black and white cows, the COWS, COWS, COWS are in the corn, are in the corn, are in the corn, are in the corn, the CORN, CORN, CORN. <-=3D     Sounds more like a "cut" from Handel's MESSIAH than a praise song.....     ~ C    
(back) Subject: Re: blower problems From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:52:16 -0500   We had an old spencer blower with century long shaft motor, and the motor became unreliable. We replaced the motor with a new short-shaft one from grainger (or someone like that), with a belt drive and a shaft. It has = been totally reliable sunday after sunday for 3 or 4 years now.   I'm not necessarily recommending just trashing the old motor, but if all = else fails, I'd do this long before buying a new blower.   see this link for pictures, and contact me offlist for more details = (anyone) if interested:   http://www.vermontficks.org/blowermod.htm   Andy   A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com