PipeChat Digest #5106 - Thursday, January 20, 2005
 
Re: these are a few of my favourite hymns
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Cantate Domino
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Re: Favorite Hymns
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: misunderstood texts
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: misunderstood texts
  by "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net>
Re: these are a few of my favourite hymns
  by "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Speller Review
  by "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com>
ATOS Member's Death
  by "Keith W. Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Re: misunderstood texts
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: misunderstood texts
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
RE: misunderstood texts
  by <Mark.Harris@fac.lon.ac.uk>
Some of My Favorites
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Whatever became of "Art Songs" in Church?
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Old Chestnuts -- some of them stale
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Hymns
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Whatever became of "Art Songs" in Church?
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Favorite Hymns
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX Web site
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: misunderstood texts
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: misunderstood texts
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Favorite Hymns--top 3
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
RE: Whatever became of "Art Songs" in Church?
  by "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu>
RE: AGO National
  by "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu>
what's going on at Westminster Choir College
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Favourite Hymns
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX
  by "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Favorite Hymns
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX
  by <AEolianSkinner@aol.com>
Misunderstood rubric
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Favorite Hymns--top 3
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Old Chestnuts -- some of them stale
  by "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net>
Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX Web site
  by "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: these are a few of my favourite hymns From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:08:22 +0200   Well, I'm not offering 139 - I think my favourite 5 will do for now:   1) The day thou gavest, Lord, is ended 2) Jerusalem (And did those feet in ancient times stand upon England's mountains green) 3) Praise my soul the King of Heaven 4) All people that on earth do dwell 5) O praise ye the Lord   All to be accompanied in extravagantly colourful style with traditional english full swell breakfast, descants, reharmonisation, key changes and fanfare trumpets for the last verse.   John Foss http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/      
(back) Subject: Re: Cantate Domino From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:14:49 -0800 (PST)   I am going to call Karen McFarlane Artists today and see if there is a way = i can get in touch with him.   Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> wrote:Scott Montgomery wrote:   > Does anyone know of the publisher Cantate Domino? There are several > pieces of Guy Bovet published under this title, but I can not seem to > locate them anywhere.   Nor could I. And though I found a website for Bovet, I couldn't find an email link, so I'd suggest writing a snail mail letter to him at the Hochschule fur Musik in Basel. He is most likely to know what became of Cantate Domino., and his publications.   ns     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:         Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St Champaign, IL 61820 217-390-0158 www.ScottMontgomeryMusic.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Hymns From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:39:30 -0800   >Well, I was all set to add an addendum to my list of favorite hymns >- noting some favorite "soft, not-strong" selections. But it seems >that others are apparently tiring of this thread, so I'll not >continue it. > >But I -am- wondering ... Is hymnody indeed off-topic to this list? I >know that the posting guidelines are rather more structured and >restricted on other pipe organ lists, but my impression was that >Pipechat was a little more loosely defined. Pardon my ignorance if >that is not the case. > >And I do know there are other, more pigeonholed, lists ... Theatre >Organs ... Tracker Organs ... Electronic Organs ... Rodgers Organs >... Allen Organs ... Baldwin Organs ... Conn Organs (list for Conns >both with and without Tellers add-ons) ... Hammond Organs ... Reed >Organs ... Choral Music ... Plainsong ... Gospel ... Hymnody ... >Handbells ... Carillons (both Real Bells and Bongatrons) .... There >are probably even special lists for Favorite Console Clutter and >Appropriate Footwear! Good Lord, if I joined all these groups, just >to stay on-topic, I'd be trying to manage even MORE email. And I get >too much already, as it is.   Ok.. in that vein...and I do not subscribe to any E-org or Hammond list   We just acquired a Hammond 4460. mostly tubes and a few transistors. It has a few problems, actually pretty minor for such an aged unit. Would any one here have( or a friend who has) a schematic available for this model?   I was actually impressed with its mechanics. Very solidly built and making use of contact stacks and roller bus bars. it almost seems that the console could easily serve to control a pipe organ. I guess in those days they were not yet that far removed from pipes.   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: misunderstood texts From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:01:35 EST   It was many years before I figured out what a "boadashore" was, but I knew =   that Michael had one, and rowed it.   ....kinda like "murkasworrontare"...  
(back) Subject: Re: misunderstood texts From: "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:13:37 -0600   SWF12262@aol.com wrote: > Regarding misunderstood texts,   Ah, bad diction in old Messiah recordings... the source of lots of = laughs...   "And all flesh shall stick together" is how I heard the line from "And the glory of the Lord" back in 6th grade... ("And all flesh shall see it together...)   John Seboldt Milwaukee, WI  
(back) Subject: Re: these are a few of my favourite hymns From: "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:43:46 +0800   Good choice John. Mine are: Praise my soul the King of Heaven (Praise my soul) O praise ye the Lord (Laudate Dominum) Praise to the Holiest in the height (Gerontius) Christ is made the sure foundation (Westminster) Be thou my vision (Slane) When I survey (Rockingham) I like the accompaniment you described too. Don't forget the free harmony accompaniment to the last verse of O praise ye the Lord , and When I = survey. Thrilling stuff. Full swell to great. Have no Fanfare Trumpet so I will = have to go without that.   Bob Elms.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: Re: these are a few of my favourite hymns     > Well, I'm not offering 139 - I think my favourite 5 will do for now: > > 1) The day thou gavest, Lord, is ended > 2) Jerusalem (And did those feet in ancient times stand upon = England's > mountains green) > 3) Praise my soul the King of Heaven > 4) All people that on earth do dwell > 5) O praise ye the Lord > > >       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005    
(back) Subject: Speller Review From: "Henry Glass" <henry@melbay.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:46:17 -0600   Our own John Speller has included a review of a new CD of Idyllic organ music in the latest issue of THE DIAPASON. The Six Short Preludes and Postludes, Op. 101 by Charles Villiers Stanford are in a new volume called PRELUDES AND POSTLUDES by Kevin Mayhew. No. 1400361.=20 Additionally, Six Short Preludes and Postludes Op. 105 and Six Occasional Preludes Op. 182 by Stanford are also included in this new volume.=20 Charles Hubert Hastings Parry is represented with the Chorale Preludes--Set 1 and Set 2.=20 See www. Melbay.com to order in the USA.    
(back) Subject: ATOS Member's Death From: "Keith W. Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 8:54:10 -0600   Pipechatters,   My dad sent this to me this morning from Athens, Georgia. Sincerely, Keith ----------- Keith: In this morning's ABH [Athens Banner Herald] there is an obituary of a = Robert John McKee, II of 125 Pinenut Lane, Bogart who was retired from = Roper Pump and among other things listed was a member of the American = Theatre Organ Society (ATOS). Just wondered if you might have crossed = paths with him sometime. He was 66 and the American Diabetes Association = was named as requested benefactor of memorials. You can probably find his = obit online at www.onlineathens.com Dad      
(back) Subject: Re: misunderstood texts From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600   I still have the immage in my mind, left over from childhood misunderstanding, that a "round, yon virgin" must have been quite chubby, = to have people 2000 years later still pointing it out. I didn't know exactly what a "virgin" was, and that she was "yon" I took for granted, but - = Boy,O Boy - she sure was fat! = Kip Smith in Missouri   PS - I give up. What is: > > ...kinda like "murkasworrontare"... >      
(back) Subject: Re: misunderstood texts From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:55:07 -0500   I never understood why Handel included "O we like sheep" in "Messiah." Having visited a sheep farm as a kid, I wasn't sure I liked them at all.   Steve Best in Utica, NY    
(back) Subject: RE: misunderstood texts From: <Mark.Harris@fac.lon.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:08:31 -0000   Here's my euro's worth.   "Weather is Rachel" for "where there is hatred" in the hymn "Make me a channel of your peace".   So, somewhere there's a hymn writer with a crush on a weather forecaster named Rachel. Hmm.....   Mark Harris London    
(back) Subject: Some of My Favorites From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:12:02 -0600   Good Morning, PipeChatters:   When it comes to the hymnal, I was one who believed that the congregation should at least say, "I sang that hymn once . . . "   However, I did not force new songs on them without due opportunity to hear and (maybe learn) the melody long before they were asked to sing the song. We followed a disciplined process to introduce and familiarize our people with the hymn tunes.   I like:   "Holy, Holy, Holy" both the hymn tune Nicea and Gounod's setting of "Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus"   "O Worship the King" hymn to the Trinity, Lyons   "Fairest Lord Jesus" Crusader's Hymn   "God, Our Father, We Adore Thee" Beecher or Regent Square   "Come, Thou Almighty King" Italian Hymn   "Jesus, Lover of My Soul" Aberystwyth   "Great Is Thy Faithfullness" Faithfulness   "O God, Our Help in Ages Past" St. Anne   "Come, Christians, Join to Sing" Madrid   "Jesus, the Very Thought of Thee" St. Agnes and the solo by Eric Thiman   "Crown Him wiht Many Crowns" Diademata   .. . . and about four dozen other hymns of like kind and focus on God our Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit who lives and moves within us today in ressurection power.   F. Richard Burt     ..      
(back) Subject: Whatever became of "Art Songs" in Church? From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:22:55 -0600   Good Morning, PipeChatters: When I was an aspiring youth, I learned many, many Religious Art Songs, and often sang them in church. John Prindle Scott was a composer of many of these songs. "Twenty Third Psalm" "The Parisee and the Publican" come to mind quickly. Eric Thiman composed a beautiful setting of "Jesus, the Very Thought of Thee." When I sang "The Lord's Prayer" for a wedding, I often substituted the Flor Peeters version for the Malotte. "How Lovely Are Thy Dwellings" was a particularly fond piece that I taught my children's choir to sing rather well.   .. . . and the list goes on. What happened that we "dropped" these songs from use so suddenly? I never hear them any more. Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: Re: Old Chestnuts -- some of them stale From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:29:32 -0600   Having been a girl scout, every time we sing "Pass it on" (fortunately very rarely), I think of "Rise up, O Flame", which was always sung over and over and over until someone managed to get the fire started.   Andrew Mead wrote: > I live and was raised in Canada as a Baptist. I recognize most of the > ditties you've listed (7). I remember on a few occasions considering > self-immolation by throwing myself in the campfire at summer camp rather > than endure listening to others sing "Pass it on" for the 27th time the = same > evening accompanied by "two chord Warren" strumming the guitar and = everyone > staring wide-eyed at the fire with glazed expressions on their = faces...."I > want to paaaaass it on".... (oh, heav'n save me!). They'd double the = length > of "paaaass" on the last verse in the event anyone was on the verge of > snapping and needed a pinch more help to push them over the edge. >     -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: Hymns From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:39:00 -0600   Believe it or not, they have sung that one in our "Praise" service - but only once - and mostly for fun. It was Super Bowl Sunday or some such, and they sang it for it's silliness factor.   First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois wrote: > What about that old classic, "Drop kick me, Jesus, through the Goalpost > of Life"? > > Dennis Steckley > > "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >     -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: Whatever became of "Art Songs" in Church? From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:02:39 -0500   In a message dated 1/20/2005 10:22:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, "F. = Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> writes:   =A0 >What happened that we "dropped" these songs from >use so suddenly? =A0I never hear them any more.   i've got them all at my church for safe keeping. drop by & hear them = sometime.   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Hymns From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:06:19 -0600     Be Thou My Vision Here, O My Lord, I See Thee Face to Face (with the old Gregorian melody that is in the 65 Methodist hymnal and did not make the "new" hymnal) His Eye is on the Sparrow   and since Eric Routley used to say everyone is allowed one "bad hymn":   O Love Divine, What Hast Thou Done - musically really bad harmonically and very limitted melody - but the text makes a very moving "mea culpa" for Good Friday   -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:14:58 EST   The church building project was most unusual, in that this new church was built in days, weeks and months, rather than years, decades and centuries. St. Martin's Episcopal puts a fresh face on tradition, by incorporating a beautiful worship space, appealing to the eye as well as to the soul. In a few words, It looks like a church, being no question about it's purpose. It's Neo-Gothic design is simply stunning.   The Schoenstein Organ of Symphonic proportions is the work of the genius Mr. Jack Bethards. He really outdid himself this time as shown in the American Organist 2005. This is much more than just a service organ, or a concert organ, as it's loaded with innovative ideas of Jack's and also suggestions from consultant Thomas Murray. Resources were uniquely distributed throughout the instrument. George Ellis Mims is the Organist and Director of Music.   Check this out: www.stmartinepiscopal.org   It will tell the story.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX Web site From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:21:58 EST     www.stmartinsepiscopal.org   Sorry, this will work. I left out one letter   Ron    
(back) Subject: RE: misunderstood texts From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:28:02 -0000   When I was about 5 I asked my Sunday School teacher what "sturndee" meant. = I was puzzled about the line from the old song "When mothers of Salem, their children brought to Jesus, The sturndee Ciples turned them back, and bade them depart...." Presumably I thought I knew what Ciples were!   Will Light Coventry UK      
(back) Subject: Re: misunderstood texts From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:31:06 -0500   When I was a child, I used to wonder to what virgin in my family the song was referring to. In addition, I though that "the Harold angels" might have something to do with my father, whose first name that was.   Randy Runyon     On Jan 20, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Paul Smith wrote:   > I still have the immage in my mind, left over from childhood > misunderstanding, that a "round, yon virgin" must have been quite > chubby, to have people 2000 years later still pointing it out. I > didn't know exactly what a "virgin" was, and that she was "yon" I took > for granted, but - Boy,O Boy - she sure was fat! > > Kip Smith in Missouri > > PS - I give up. What is: >> >> ...kinda like "murkasworrontare"... > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Favorite Hymns--top 3 From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:51:12 -0600   My three favorite hymns in no particular order: 1. How Brightly Shines the Morningstar 2. Wake, O Wake, for Night is Flying 3. Jerusalem (And Did Those Feet...........)   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: RE: Whatever became of "Art Songs" in Church? From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:06:42 -0500   When I was organist of Saint David's Church, Radnor, Pa., one of the professional section leaders of the choir would serve as a soloist for the late service in the historic little 18th-century church. He or she would sing art songs, usually well chosen and well performed. It was interesting and fun to accompany them.   Art songs are sometimes a musical problem when they call for piano rather than organ accompaniment.   They are also a liturgical problem in that vocal solos are at odds with the corporate nature of the event and the church.   So I'm ambivalent about them. They can certainly be an artistic ornament to a service. An appropriate, well-done song is better than a butchered anthem and clearly requires fewer people to bring off. However, at least in my denomination they are liturgically questionable. As much as one may be tempted to push the envelope because your star singer has this really wonderful song that fits the lectionary perfectly, *everyone* wants to push the liturgical envelope so much that hardly any envelope might be left. Then too, like anything else, they can be excruciating if *not* well done, as can easily happen given the number of people who don't sing as well as they think or wish they did.  
(back) Subject: RE: AGO National From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:19:31 -0500   > Paul   Which National are you referring to? Your message did not include the post you were replying to. I think it must have been Philly because I seem to remember the Franck E major.   =20   Sorry for being unclear. I was replying about the Los Angeles AGO national last summer. Unforgivably, I missed the Philadelphia national because I had just returned from a week of OHS in Chicago, it was already in progress, and I was too exhausted to attend AND spend the two hours a day driving there and back home. =20   =20   Those in the high-paid professions can afford several conventions and away meetings a year, thus they can also afford to include time for relaxing in the schedule. (I suppose, never having been in any of these.) But organists (and librarians!) can't afford this. Many of us only *pretend* that we can afford even one convention a year and accommodations in a respectable downtown hotel at today's rates. It is inevitable that the schedule at that one convention will be chock full of opportunities, but is that really anything to complain about? If you're too tired to go to a particular recital or other event, then just miss it.   =20    
(back) Subject: what's going on at Westminster Choir College From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:22:41 EST   I had dinner the other night with some college music professor friends of mine, one of which told me that there has been a shake up in the organ = department at Westminster Choir College. Does anyone know if it's true or not and = what happened?   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Favourite Hymns From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:28:46 -0000   Favourite Hymns     1. Guide Me O Thou Great Jehovah 2. God of Mercy and Compassion 3. Soul of My Saviour 4. When I Survey the Wondrous Cross 5. Be Thou My Vision 6. Immortal Invisible God Only Wise 7. Eternal Father Strong to Save 8. Veni Emmanuel 9. The Angel Gabriel 10. Praise My Soul    
(back) Subject: Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX From: "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@msn.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:46:14 -0600   Could not copy the message to the digest, there was no plain text part
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Hymns From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:53:45 -0600   Seems like a lot of us have about as many favorite hymns as my pastor. His favorite hymn is any hymn he has more than a 5 minute acquaintance with. Alicia Zeilenga      
(back) Subject: Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX From: <AEolianSkinner@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:42:48 EST   Hey Guys, I just got to play on the organ Wednesday and also got to climb up = into the organ with the help of Louie Patterson. It is a amazing instrument. = If yal would like pictures of the internal of the organ, I would be glad to = send yal some. If yal also want some info on the instrument, please ask. I would be happy to tell.   Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Misunderstood rubric From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:36:22 +0000   On 1/20/05 3:12 PM, "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> wrote:   > "Jesus, the Very Thought of Thee" St. Agnes   Speaking of misunderstandings:   When the various Lutheran groups that are now the ELCA came out with the Service Book & Hymnal in 1958 (then certainly one of the best books ever produced in America, and still a contender), a young pastor was showing it to a very senior pastor in Barrett, Minn. In that book, =B3alternative=B2 tune= s were indicated by a line such as =B3May also be sung to Whatever.=B2 The old guy gave it an honest try, but then protested: =B3I see that this hymn can also be sung =8Cto St. Anne.=B9 Isn=B9t that going just a bit far?=B2 (Lutherans RARELY sing hymns TO saints.)   Alan Freed    
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Hymns--top 3 From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:02:36 +0000   On 1/20/05 5:51 PM, "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> wrote:   > My three favorite hymns in no particular order: > 1. How Brightly Shines the Morningstar > 2. Wake, O Wake, for Night is Flying > 3. Jerusalem (And Did Those Feet...........) >=20 Well, very clearly you are a person of impeccable [=B2lacking peccata=B2] taste= !   Which makes it a good time to mention that a shrink could have a BALL =B3psychoanalyzing=B2 each of us on the basis of our lists. Just the STORIES associated with your choices are fabulous reading!   Alan Freed    
(back) Subject: Re: Old Chestnuts -- some of them stale From: "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:30:07 -0600   > Andrew Mead wrote, quoted or whatever: > >> I remember on a few occasions considering >> self-immolation by throwing myself in the campfire at summer camp = rather >> than endure listening to others sing "Pass it on" for the 27th time >> the same >> evening accompanied by "two chord Warren" strumming the guitar and >> everyone >> staring wide-eyed at the fire with glazed expressions on their >> faces...."I >> want to paaaaass it on".... (oh, heav'n save me!). They'd double the >> length >> of "paaaass" on the last verse in the event anyone was on the verge of >> snapping and needed a pinch more help to push them over the edge.   Glazed expressions? Good heavens, never in my experience. We actually did a "pass it on" gesture during the song - "it" was some imaginary something in our hands, and the next person would cup their hands, and we would dump "it" into their hand, and so on, thus, I suppose, bringing this wonderful love of God into the world. (A lot easier than actually doing something to make it happen...) Oh well...   John Seboldt Milwaukee, WI  
(back) Subject: Re: The Gloria Dei Organ, St. Martin's, Houston TX Web site From: "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:38:44 -0600   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > www.stmartinsepiscopal.org > > Sorry, this will work. I left out one letter > > Ron Yep.   Is there a spec online anywhere?   John