PipeChat Digest #5116 - Tuesday, January 25, 2005
 
Re: the Gloria Dei organ, St. Martin's  Houston
  by <AEolianSkinner@aol.com>
EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops / Silents in the House announcement.
  by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital
Re: What's the Cathedral that's closing in New York City?
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
(no subject)
  by "Richard Ditewig" <rwditewig@msn.com>
Re: No Subject
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re:
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
RE:
  by "John M. Scott" <jscott@wolfvillebaptist.ca>
William A. Johnson; Johnson & Son; "Patent Reeds"
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Felix Hell. Recital- and Class/Lecture Schedule
  by "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de>
Re:
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: What's the Cathedral that's closing in New York City?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: What's the Cathedral that's closing in New York City?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Saint Ann Cathedral
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Music Appropriate for Shoah Memorial
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
RE: Saint Ann Cathedral
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net>
Re: Temperature and reeds (was hybrid organs)
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
RE: Question re hybrid organs
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Question re hybrid organs
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Casavant "hanging plant"
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
"hybrid" tuning
  by "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net>
Re: Rick Warren and music in worship
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: the Gloria Dei organ, St. Martin's Houston From: <AEolianSkinner@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:22:50 EST   Hey Roy, Sorry so long. Here is the stoplist of the organ. I have also enlosed three pictures. The first one is of the low C 32' Trombone. The Second = is of the 8' Tuba Mjajor if I remember right and the third is of the console. = I hope you like them.   Best Regards, Gregory Hinson   Great (4" Wind) 16' Gamba 16' Bourdon 8' Grand Open Diapason (Solo) 8' Open Diapason 8' Harmonic Flute 8' Gamba 8' Bourdon 8' Erzahler 8' Lieblich Gedeckt (Choir) 8' Cor Seraphique II (Swell) 4' Cor Seraphique II (Swell) 4' Octave (Solo) 4' Principal 4' Chimney Flute 4' Silver Flute (Choir) 2 2/3' Twelfth 2' Fifteenth 1 3/5' Seventeenth 2' Mixture IV 16' Bass Trumpet 8' Trumpet 4' Clarion 8' Tuba Minor (Solo) 4' Tuba Clarion (Solo) 8' Harmonic Trumpet (Solo) 8' Tuba Major (Solo) Chimes (Walker) Cymbelstern (Walker) Swell (4 1/2" Wind) 16' Lieblich Bourdon 8' Open Diapason 8' Stopped Diapason 8' Echo Gamba 8' Gamba Celeste 8' Aeoline (Choir) 8' Aeoline Celeste (Choir) 4' Gemshorn 4' Harmonic Flute 4' Aeoline (Choir) 4' Aeoline Celeste (Choir) 2' Flageolet 2 2/3' Tierce Mixture III 8' Flugel Horn 8' French Horn Stops Under Double Expression *6" Wind **10" Wind ***Seperate Two Stage Expression Two Speed Tremulant 6" Wind 16' Cor Seraphique* 8' Cor Seraphique* 8' Voix Angelique* 4' Cor Seraphique 4' Voix Angelique 16' Posaune** 8' Trumpet** 4' Clarion** 2' Quint Mixture III-V* 8' Vox Humana*** Choir (4 1/2" Wind) 16' Aeoline 8' Viola Pomposa 8' Viola Celeste 8' Concert Flute 8' Lieblich Gedeckt 8' Aeoline 8' Aeoline Celeste 4' Fugara 4' Silver Flute 2 2/3' Nazard 2 2/3' Twelfth 2' Salicet 2' Harmonic Piccolo 1 3/5' Tierce 1 1/3' Nineteenth 1' Twentysecond 16' Contra Oboe 8' Trumpet 8' Clarinet 8' English Oboe 8' Harmonic Trumpet (Solo) 8' Tuba Major (Solo) Harp (Walker) Celesta (Walker) Solo (10" Wind) 8' Grand Open Diapason 8' Symphonic Flute 8' Stentor Gamba 8' Gamba Celeste 2' Obbligato Piccolo 1' Obbligato Fife 8' French Horn 8' Tuben III (Swell) Stops Under Double Expression 8' Violes II 4' Violes II 4' Octave 16' Corno di Bassetto 8' Tuba Minor 8' Harmonic Trumpet 8' Corno di Bassetto 4' Tuba Clarion Unenclosed Stop 8' Tuba Major Pedal (4 1/2" Wind) *Trombone unit in an expression box. 15" Wind **Draws Open Wood at octave pitch through pizzicato touch relay 32' Diapason (EEEE) 32' Sub Bass (7 1/2" Wind) 32' Sub Bass mp 16' Open Wood 16' Diapason 16' Gamba (Great) 16' Sub Bass (7 1/2" Wind) 16' Aeoline (Choir) 16' Bourdon (Great) 16' Cor Seraphique (Swell) 16' Lieblich Bourdon (Swell) 8' Open Wood 8' Principal 8' Sub Bass (7 1/2" Wind) 8' Gamba (Great) 8' Flute (Great) 8' Viola Pomposa (Choir) 8' Aeoline (Choir) 8' Bourdon (Great) 8' Stopped Diapason (Swell) 4' Fifteenth 4' Flute (Great) 4' Bourdon (Great) 2' Flute 2 2/3' Mixture III 32' Contra Trombone* 32' Cornet (Wired) 16' Trombone* 16' Posaune (Swell) 16' Bass Trumpet (Great) 16' Contra Oboe (Choir) 16' Corno di Bassetto (Solo) 8' Tromba* 8' Trumpet (Great) 8' Posaune (Swell) 8' English Oboe (Choir) 8' Clarinet (Choir) 4' Clarion* 4' French Oboe (Swell) 4' Corno di Bassetto (Solo) 8' Pizzicato Bass**  
(back) Subject: EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops / Silents in the House announcement. From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:22:42 -0500     This is an EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops / Silents in the House announcement.   ***************************************************************************= **************   First, those of you who are on our "snail" mailing list should shortly receive some information via "snail" mail (that's the mail that the = postman delivers to you) concerning upcoming events. Included in that mailing is = an RSVP postcard. Please complete and return the card to us (it is postpaid). =   It will help us to serve you better in the future. Thank You.   ***************************************************************************= **************   We would also like to direct you to our Web site at = http://www.EMCATOS.com, especially the Events tab, where you will find details not only about our events, but pointers to listings of events sponsored by our friends in the =   American Guild of Organists (AGO), the Methuen Memorial Music Hall Recital =   Series and the Portland Maine Kotzschmar Memorial Organ Series, and = others. There is also a handy ticket ordering form under Tickets.   ***************************************************************************= **************   Well, are you all dug out? If not, here are some reasons that may give you =   cause to consider doing it.   In summary (details are below):   1. Clark Wilson, Theatre Organist Extraordinaire, on Wurlitzer - 2/26 & 2/27/05   2. Not Men in Tights, exactly, but the silent film classic = Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood with Wurlitzer - 3/19/05   3. He's back! The exciting Phil Kelsall on Wurlitzer! - 4/30 & = 5/1/05   4. Advance Sale Ticket Ordering for the above   ***************************************************************************= **************   1. CLARK WILSON, THEATRE ORGANIST EXTRAORDINAIRE, AT BABSON & = SHANKLIN   EMCATOS / Pipe Organ Pops is proud to present the extraordinary theatre organist, Clark Wilson, at the Mighty Wurlitzer Theatre Pipe Organ at two February events.   > Saturday, February 26, 2005, 7:30 PM Knight Auditorium, Babson College, Wellesley, MA Tickets: Advance sale: $10.00 (Please see below for ordering information.) At the door: General Admission: $14.00 Seniors & Students: $12.00 Children 16 and under: Free with adult   > Sunday, February 27, 2005, 2:30 PM Shanklin Music Hall, Groton, MA Tickets are available by Advance Sale Only @ $20.00. (Please see below for ordering information.)   ***************************************************************************= **************   2. DOUGLAS FAIRBANKS IN ROBIN HOOD AT BABSON   EMCATOS / Silents in the House is proud to present the silent film = classic, Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood. This blockbuster will be accompanied by Juan Cardona, Jr., a gifted silent film accompanist, on our very own = Mighty EMCATOS Wurlitzer! Bring the family and come experience our brand new, crystal-clear projection system for yourself!   > Saturday, March 19, 2005, 7:30 PM Knight Auditorium, Babson College, Wellesley, MA Tickets: Advance sale: $8.00 (Please see below for ordering information.) At the door: General Admission: $12.00 Seniors & Students: $10.00 Children 16 and under: Free with adult   ***************************************************************************= **************   3. MR. EXCITEMENT, PHIL KELSALL, THEATRE ORGANIST, AT BABSON & = SHANKLIN   EMCATOS / Pipe Organ Pops is proud to present the charming and exciting Phil Kelsall at the Mighty Wurlitzer Theatre Pipe Organ at two spring = events.   > Saturday, April 30, 2005, 7:30 PM Knight Auditorium, Babson College, Wellesley, MA Tickets: Advance sale: $10.00 (Please see below for ordering information.) At the door: General Admission: $14.00 Seniors & Students: $12.00 Children 16 and under: Free with adult   > Sunday, May 1, 2005, 2:30 PM Shanklin Music Hall, Groton, MA Tickets are available by Advance Sale Only @ $20.00. (Please see below for ordering information.)   ***************************************************************************= **************   4. ADVANCE SALE TICKET ORDERING   Tickets for the above events are now available and may be ordered by sending a self-addressed stamped envelope, your name, address and phone number, a list of the tickets you wish to order *, and your check made payable to "Pipe Organ Pops" to:   Pipe Organ Pops 8 Skyline Drive Billerica, MA 01821-1117   > Clark Wilson at Babson College, 2/26/05 @ $10.00   > Clark Wilson at the Shanklin Music Hall, 2/27/05 @ $20.00   > Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood at Babson College, 3/19/05 @ $8.00   > Phil Kelsall at Babson College, 4/30/05 @ $10.00   > Phil Kelsall at the Shanklin Music Hall, 5/1/05 @ $20.00   If you have any questions, please email Tickets@EMCATOS.com or call 978-670-1269. Ticket orders that arrive late or do not include a self-addressed stamped envelope will be held at the door.   Note: If you suspect that a concert may be cancelled or rescheduled due to =   the weather, please call 781-272-5148 for information.   ***************************************************************************= **************   Thank you.     -------------------------------------------------- Len Beyersdorfer LenB@MDigital.com MARATHON Digital Publishing Marlboro, Massachusetts 508-460-6172 --------------------------------------------------
(back) Subject: Re: What's the Cathedral that's closing in New York City? From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:26:44 EST   None of the cathedrals in New York City is closing.  
(back) Subject: From: "Richard Ditewig" <rwditewig@msn.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:38:52 -0800   is this message going to be read by pipechat readers?   Richard Ditewig
(back) Subject: Re: No Subject From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:41:37 EST   yes, it is. gfc       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:44:09 EST   In a message dated 1/25/05 2:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, rwditewig@msn.com writes:   << is this message going to be read by pipechat readers? >>   It was read by this one.  
(back) Subject: RE: From: "John M. Scott" <jscott@wolfvillebaptist.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:45:15 -0400   yup     _____   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ditewig Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:39 PM To: pipechat Subject:     is this message going to be read by pipechat readers?     Richard Ditewig    
(back) Subject: William A. Johnson; Johnson & Son; "Patent Reeds" From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:53:01 EST   William Allen Johnson (1816-1901) was proof that it IS possible for an =   autodidact to become a great organbuilder, despite how incredibly rare = that is. Of the approximately 860 instruments crafted by the man and his firm, many have burned, or been replaced, or suffered alterations that rendered = them unrecognizable. Those that are unaltered exhibit exceptional = craftsmanship. The tonal finishing of the beautifully voiced pipes is truly fastidious and elegant. Tonal design was quite traditional and plenum-based, although even in smaller instruments of a "Great to Fifteenth" scheme, the choruses cohered = with a fine brightness. In 1877, Johnson's "Patent Reeds" were introduced. They were = constructed such that the shallots were narrower at the free end and wider at the = block end, with the attendant reed tongues following the same inverted pattern. = Rare examples exist, particularly in Pedal Trombones and Great Trumpets. The resulting tone is grand, brilliant, and "free."   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/   ..  
(back) Subject: Felix Hell. Recital- and Class/Lecture Schedule From: "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:26:40 +0100   Dear listmembers,   the increasing number of questions of single listmembers cause me to state: yes, the 2005-schedule of recitals, classes and lectures, as they can be seen now on Felix's website, are pretty much the status which we had planned for 2005, not more than 40 recitals, and 10 classes/lectures. There are still e few pending projects which will probably be put into the September and November schedule. Also, the dates of the mandatory AD-recitals at Peabody are not yet known. And, the final Australia schedule will be published soon also.   I hope that this will answer all questions.   Hans-Friedrich Hell www.felix-hell.com        
(back) Subject: Re: From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:38:54 +0000   On 1/25/05 7:38 PM, "Richard Ditewig" <rwditewig@msn.com> wrote:   > is this message going to be read by pipechat readers? > > Richard Ditewig >   Just was, by this one.   And thanks for your earlier post about the Casavant (sent just to me, I think)   Alan Freed      
(back) Subject: Re: What's the Cathedral that's closing in New York City? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:53:22 EST   Hi Sebastian:   There is one and it was announced early on in January. It's called St. Ann's Armenian Cathedral. You wrote about it briefly as being a Baptist Church, then for a while was a Jewish Temple before it became St. Ann's. The organ was installed in the 1850's or 60's a rather large tracker in poor shape. The Catholic Archdiocese sold it to a contractor to raze the building and put something else there. it's last Mass in Latin was January 16, 2005.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: What's the Cathedral that's closing in New York City? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:30:19 EST   Here's the address:   http://www.nycago.org/Organs/html/StAnnArmenianRiteCathedral.html   Ron Severin   It's a three Manual 45 rank Henry Erben of 1864    
(back) Subject: Saint Ann Cathedral From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:49:54 EST   My apologies. It was, in fact, a cathedral. Having lived a block away for nearly a decade and never seen a soul = enter or leave or a light on, I guess I had not perceived it as a cathedral. From the stoplist, it appears to me as though the organ was tonally altered at the time of its electrification.   SMG  
(back) Subject: Music Appropriate for Shoah Memorial From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:00:35 -0000   Dear Lists Members, Can anyone tell me if they know of any music which would be appropriate = for playing during a Shoah Memorial Service in my church? Much appreciated, D    
(back) Subject: RE: Saint Ann Cathedral From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:19:44 -0600   We might excuse Sebastian who might have thought that two Armenian Cathedrals in Manhattan was enough: Saint Gregory the Illuminator Armenian Apostolic Cathedral and St. Vartan Armenian Cathedral - born of a split in the Armenian community.   Who or what St. Ann's Cathedral was is probably a mystery best left mysterious. Surely, if it was a cathedral and the church has been = closed, the bishop would have re-located his seat of authority to another = location? Or, perhaps it was a cathedral in name only but not in function. It = sounds as though it was a group operating within the Roman Catholic Archdiocese = of New York and under the jurisdiction of the bishop of New York. If that is the case and Cardinal Egan thinks the Archdiocese is better off selling = the property, perhaps he should do so. The building has served a Baptist congregation, the congregation of Temple Emanu-El, and yet another = Armenian splinter group in its 150 year history   Those who believe the building and organ should be preserved in their present state for whatever reason should step forth with their checkbook = in hand and make a counter offer to the Archdiocese. This obviously is not = the first time the building has been disposed of by its owner.   Michael - 1/2 Armenian and that's enough to keep me arguing with myself     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of TubaMagna@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:50 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Saint Ann Cathedral   My apologies. It was, in fact, a cathedral. Having lived a block away for nearly a decade and never seen a soul enter or leave or a light on, I guess I had not perceived it as a cathedral. From the stoplist, it appears to me as though the organ was tonally altered at the time of its electrification.      
(back) Subject: Re: Temperature and reeds (was hybrid organs) From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:03:10 -0500     On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:31:49 -0500 "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> writes: > Thanks for this informative post. I'm not sure why it has a > corrective tone though     Andy:   If my tone was corrective in an unfriendly manner, then I apologize. Didacticism is a trait that my posts assume frequently. Take no umbrage, please.     In re-reading my message, i see that the following statement was out-of-line:   > > Apparently my misconception allows me to keep many of our organs > in very nice tune year round.     My apologies,     Jim  
(back) Subject: RE: Question re hybrid organs From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:44:11 -0600   Excuse me - it's been an extremely stressful day at work, and I may have misread. There are many other things on my mind.   But in perusing Dick Burt's post, if a church had a hybrid organ and sought to keep the pipes and digitals in tune with each other by way of a tuning knob, is it possible that organ-piano duets might not be possible on days of extreme temperature changes, or when the organ has not been tuned regularly?   And per Russ Greene, there could be (or have been documented) problems in the balance between the digital and pipe stops?   Just curious - we have none of these animals close at hand, but there's a scent in the wind. Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Question re hybrid organs From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:18:44 EST   Glenda:   I'm sorry but we have people on the list who constantly muddy the waters. My original advise to you is to have a heat sensor installed on your electronic organ which will virtually keep the pipes in tune with the electronic voices. Those tuning knobs are a joke. Now I know what kind of Combo you have. It's obvious. Let's discuss this off line to keep the conversation clear. Now we are bringing a piano into the discussion. We definitely need to talk in private.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant "hanging plant" From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:44:51 EST   Moller also built a 2-rank hanging "chandelier organ". Check out Buzard Organ's web site under 2003 service work. This organ was for sale on the = web during the past year.   Tom  
(back) Subject: "hybrid" tuning From: "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:21:32 -0800   At my previous church job, we added a custom made Ahlborn "Archive" box, and it had a temperature sensor hanging in the pipe chamber which kept the digital stuff in tune with the pipes very nicely.   There was no room for adding pipes, and I didn't want to spend lots of money on high end digital stuff, thinking a renovation of the worship space would be coming soon .....silly me.    
(back) Subject: Re: Rick Warren and music in worship From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:28:05 EST   In a message dated 1/24/2005 12:45:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, rigrax@earthlink.net writes: What your pastor is actually asking is to know your group's *personally preferred* styles of music. Our personal preferences have nothing to do = with worship since they have their origin in self-will to start with, rather = than a desire to "worship in spirit and in truth."   Anything, music included, that is used as a "drawing card for target audiences" renders it incapable of being considered sacred in any way to start with because it is consecrated to something other than God to start with, and has nothing to do with Scripturally-defined worship by = definition. The original question was from the musician at a Methodist church, = building seating 1000, with an attendance of 150. While we all appreciate the = examples of churches with strong, "traditional" music programs (mine included), = what are we to make of very, VERY growing churches that have not compromised = one iota on the mission or gospel of the church, and yet have found that a worship "style" has enhanced greatly the attractiveness of the whorship service to = the community? Will we insist on doing it "right" for the few, and criticize = others for doing it "wrong" for thousands of people who are being discipled in = the scriptures, doctrine and Christian living?   Is it any wonder that churches with overflow crowds are not taking their = cues from mostly empty churches? Can we blame pastors/leaders whose hearts = ache for significant ministry when they evaluate every area of church life, including worship, to see if there is a more effective, meaningful or = relevant way to disciple people? Might those of us in traditional churches rejoice-in-excelsis when the contemporary church in our community reaches = out with the authentic gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to another 50 new people EVERY WEEK?   I've had many people in our community comment appreciatively about our = pipe organs, a 103 Schantz/Skinner, and a 2/7 OSI (pic on the OSI website). = Never has any comment had to do with spiritual growth, however. The big "contemporary" place south of town is doing a terrific job of discipling = THOUSANDS (particularly youth) without criticising anybody elses music program!   Wil I continue our youth choir (grade 6-12) of 35 SATB singers? You bet! = We sing traditional literature, and the kids are groing in wonderful ways, = and seem to have a good understanding of scripture, that from the music and = the youth ministry. Do I expect the other church to take its cues from us? = Hardly.   Just rambling, I guess....     Steven Skinner Minister of Music First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA