PipeChat Digest #5446 - Tuesday, July 5, 2005
 
Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity
  by <dudelk@aol.com>
Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
Re: Theatre Organ Chat List?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Mother Goose Suite..John Levitt
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
A Sweet for Mother Goose
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
A Sweet for Mother Goose--the movements
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: A Sweet for Mother Goose--the movements
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Theatre Organ Chats Groups
  by "Jason M. Taylor" <Jason.M.Taylor@verizon.net>
Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity
  by "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com>
Re: A Sweet for Mother Goose--the movements
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
"Sanctuary"
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: A Sweet for Mother Goose
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Mother Goose Suite
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: Standing Ovations... or the Blue Flame
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: "Sanctuary"
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Re: Standing Ovations... or the Blue Flame
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Re: Sampling Question
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Re: Mother Goose Suite
  by "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com>
Standing ovations
  by "Mark Quarmby" <mark_quarmby@yahoo.com>
RE: Standing ovations
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Kilgen Opus List
  by "Philip A. Spressart" <pipeorganbuilder@comcast.net>
Re: Kilgen Opus List
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Re: Mother Goose Suite
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity From: <dudelk@aol.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:04:26 -0400   This sounds like a piece Mary Preston played at the Hartford AGO = convention last week. I don't have the program book at hand, but I believe = the composer's name was something like Akerley? Dudelsvater -----Original Message----- From: Bernadette Wagner <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity     It's Ravel, isn't it? I had to do "The Enchanted Garden" or "The Secret = Garden", or whatever type of garden it was as a duet at piano camp this year. I = have to say that it was really quite boring. The ending has big glissandos and is = quite "big", but that's kinda it. There are a bunch of rolled chords in the = middle of the piece, which adds "flair" I guess. I don't know about the other = movements of the suite, but this one wasn't my cup of tea.   nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote: Fot those who recall, The Mother Goose Suite = was the composition that won the AGO Composition award at the last competition for that. While it is fun and does add levity to a recital, Bradley Welch mentioned iits being a fairly technical work. It is based on Mother Goose Rhymes A Narrator reads throughout the score while the organist plays.   The name of the composer escapes me at this time.   TDH   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:           __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>  
(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:06:31 -0700   No, it's _not_ Ravel....   This is a newly composed work by a modern composer, and it's anything but boring   <grin>   Bernadette Wagner wrote:   >It's Ravel, isn't it? I had to do "The Enchanted Garden" or "The Secret = Garden", or whatever type of garden it was as a duet at piano camp this = year. I have to say that it was really quite boring. The ending has big = glissandos and is quite "big", but that's kinda it. There are a bunch of = rolled chords in the middle of the piece, which adds "flair" I guess. I = don't know about the other movements of the suite, but this one wasn't my = cup of tea. > >   -- Jonathan Orwig Evensong Music, Media and Graphics New Organ and Choral Music http://www.evensongmusic.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Chat List? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:08:15 -0400   >Dear Listers: > >Does anyone know if there is a chat list for Theatre Organs? > >And if so, how to is subscribe? > >TIA > >Gordon (In Fresno, California)   >ofcourse there is! >       http://theatreorgans.com/tolist.htm  
(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite..John Levitt From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:14:33 EDT   I believe it is by organist/composer JOHN LEVITT of Wichita, Kansas.  
(back) Subject: A Sweet for Mother Goose From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:16:22 EDT   It's not Mother Goose Suite and the composer is George Akerley.  
(back) Subject: A Sweet for Mother Goose--the movements From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:22:07 EDT   Here is the listing of the movements in the Akerley piece: A Sweet for Mother Goose   1. Little Bo-Peep 2. The Clock 3. The Cats of Kilkenny 4. The Tale of Miss Muffet 5. One Two Buckle My Shoe 6. The Fiddlers       Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: A Sweet for Mother Goose--the movements From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT)   A Sweet For... .....Suite All I rememeber it it was very nice and the narrator himself added a colorful touch.   Whichever it is...it's containing Mother Goose rhymes that we learned as children.   John Leavitt wrote a set called Scenes from Childhood, did'nt he? (That may no tbe the verbatim title, so Im sure someone here would know if one may be interested in these pieces.)     __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html    
(back) Subject: Theatre Organ Chats Groups From: "Jason M. Taylor" <Jason.M.Taylor@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:30:08 -0400   Gordon asked: "Does anyone know if there is a chat list for Theatre Organs? And if = so, how to is subscribe?   Reply: theatreorgans-l@theatreorgans.com theatreorganplayersandfans@yahoogroups.com secondtouch@yahoogroups.com   Jay Taylor      
(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite..was levity From: "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT)   well, pardon me!!!!   Jonathan Orwig <giwro@adelphia.net> wrote:No, it's _not_ Ravel....   This is a newly composed work by a modern composer, and it's anything but boring       Bernadette Wagner wrote:   >It's Ravel, isn't it? I had to do "The Enchanted Garden" or "The Secret = Garden", or whatever type of garden it was as a duet at piano camp this = year. I have to say that it was really quite boring. The ending has big = glissandos and is quite "big", but that's kinda it. There are a bunch of = rolled chords in the middle of the piece, which adds "flair" I guess. I = don't know about the other movements of the suite, but this one wasn't my = cup of tea. > >   -- Jonathan Orwig Evensong Music, Media and Graphics New Organ and Choral Music http://www.evensongmusic.net     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: A Sweet for Mother Goose--the movements From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:33:35 EDT   _Mulet, Ravel, & Mother Goose_ (http://shop.store.yahoo.com/ohscatalog/muramogo.html)  
(back) Subject: "Sanctuary" From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:36:22 -0500 (CDT)   Hi, folks -   I'm in search of the music and lyrics for the praise song "Sanctuary". I = know I've seen it somewhere, but darn if I can put my fingers on it right = now....   Halp!   My thanks.   Director of Music Ministries Upper Dublin Ev. Lutheran Church Ambler, Pennsylvania   Soli Deo Gloria  
(back) Subject: Re: A Sweet for Mother Goose From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:51:45 EDT   Patron Chair - Rebecca Sawyer 432-684-6721 _bsawyer@fpcmid.org_ (mailto:bsawyer@fpcmid.org)   Rebecca Sawyer Recital   Rebecca Sawyer, Organist and Music Associate, First Presbyterian of = Midland since 1991 will perform a recital at the church at 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, February 13th. The program is designed to appeal to a wide age-span of = listeners. Please encourage the younger musicians you know (ages 4 and older) to attend this musical presentation.   Prelude in C Minor, Op. 37, No. 1 - Felix Mendelssohn   San Antonio Suite - Noel Goemanne   Selections from A Sweet for Mother Goose for Organ and Narrator - George =   Ackerley   Selections from Scenes of Childhood - John Leavitt   Village Variations - Andrew Carter   Tu Es Petra from Byzantine Sketches - Henri Mulet   Admission is free. The church is located at 800 West Texas Avenue in Midland.  
(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:01:00 EDT   In a message dated 7/5/2005 11:55:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, musicalgrl90@yahoo.com writes:   >>It's Ravel, isn't it? I had to do "The Enchanted Garden" or "The Secret =   Garden", or >>whatever type of garden it was as a duet at piano camp this = year. I have to say that >>it was really quite boring. I cannot imagine using the word 'boring' to describe Ravel's "Mother = Goose Suite". Ravel was such a talented composer that I don't think he would = have let anything which was less than superb out of his pen. (How many other composers could have written something as mesmerizing as "Bolero", which = is basically the same tune repeated over and over, with the same basic accompaniment?). "Mother Goose Suite" has got to be one of my most absolute favorite orchestral pieces, and the fact that is has 'the' major contrabassoon solo = in the literature does not even figure into my feelings (although it usually = guarantees a solo bow at the end). Granted, there are so many more emotions and feelings which can be expressed through creative orchestration than = through the original piano duet version, but I cannot see how the piece could be = "boring". Have you listened to the whole suite? A good performance of the piano = duet version is breath taking. A good performance (especially live) of the orchestral version, especially with your eyes closed and being aware of = the program notes is almost other-worldly, in that the music so clearly describes = what Ravel was thinking while he composed it. I've performed the orchestral version several times, a woodwind 5tet = version many times, as well as a band version once. Even the later was quite successful since it was done by an arranger who understood the piece as a = whole, and how to transfer it to a different performing medium. Organ Content: None, but I'd like to hear a good organ transcription. = Does anyone know of a good one? Richard Spittel Baltimore, MD        
(back) Subject: Re: Standing Ovations... or the Blue Flame From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:58:14 -0500   yes - the exact same thing happened at the theater where I saw it. - and they sat until all the credit were over and the screen was completely blank before they even started moving. Way beyond the brief moment of "breath holding silence" - it was more like 5 minutes or more of unified immobility. I saw it again on TV a few years later, and found I had the same reaction at the end - which is even more surprising, that the reaction even repeats itself.   On Jul 5, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Will Light wrote:   > The last time I experienced that awed silence was not in church or > recital > hall, but in a cinema at the end of "Schindler's List". The > audience simply > filed out in total silence. Most moving! > > Will Light > Coventry UK > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re: "Sanctuary" From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:13:48 -0700   Is that John W. Thompson and Randy Scruggs "Sanctuary"? It is available as lyrics with chord changes at http://www.higherpraise.com/lyrics1/Sanctuary.htm   On 7/5/05, Shirley <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi, folks - >=20 > I'm in search of the music and lyrics for the praise song "Sanctuary". I= know I've seen it somewhere, but darn if I can put my fingers on it right = now.... >=20 > Halp! >=20 > My thanks. >=20 > Director of Music Ministries > Upper Dublin Ev. Lutheran Church > Ambler, Pennsylvania >=20 > Soli Deo Gloria >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Standing Ovations... or the Blue Flame From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:03:29 -0700   This whole tradition may have sprung from the happy-clappy crowed.=20   A local church presented a musical (cantata/drama/show/what-have-you) that was lightly attended. As the show progressed more people showed up during the performance, by the end most of the church had filled.   After the show was over the pastor of the church spoke from the pulpit thanking the people who had put on the production, and the congregation in attendance. They (the audience) applauded themselves. He continued, "You've got nothing to applaud, you should all be ashamed of yourselves for arriving late."   They may have been red-faced for the moment, but I'm sure they're back to clapping after every praise-chorus they sing. "Thank you, Jesus! I made it through an other song with five words! Couldn't have done it without ya!"   Those of us from a more traditional cut of cloth wouldn't be clapping at the end of A Mighty Fortress, no matter how well the organist plays or the choir sings or even if the congregation "blue flames" in perfect harmony.   > Sand wrote: > Standing ovations have become so conventional as be meaningless. =20 and > Monty wrote:=20 > Yes, yes, yes!!! Silence can be even more appropriate sometimes. Thunde= rous > applause and a croud jumping to its feet often ruins the moment. =20   > Monty --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Sampling Question From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:29:52 -0700   Got some amazing trumpet stops on that Apocalypse there!   Actually a lot of digital piano samples I am told are from Steinways .... but their name is never mentioned. Yamaha does mention that it samples their own concert grands for their digitals.   As far as software samples go, Post Musical Instruments (postpiano.com) boasts: PMI Bosendorfer 290, Yamaha C7, Steinway D and the EMPEROR (Bos290 SE) and the OLD LADY (model 1923 Steinway D).   I don't know if recording the samples or licensing the sound was discussed with the manufacturers.   On 7/5/05, Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > By the way, Apocalypse Organ Company is my fictitious organ > company. --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite From: "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:42:51 -0700 (PDT)   I've listened to the whole thing. It's just one persson's own taste that = matters.   ContraReed@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/5/2005 11:55:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, musicalgrl90@yahoo.com writes:   >>It's Ravel, isn't it? I had to do "The Enchanted Garden" or "The Secret Garden", or >>whatever type of garden it was as a duet at piano camp this = year. I have to say that >>it was really quite boring.   I cannot imagine using the word 'boring' to describe Ravel's "Mother Goose =   Suite". Ravel was such a talented composer that I don't think he would = have let anything which was less than superb out of his pen. (How many other composers could have written something as mesmerizing as "Bolero", which = is basically the same tune repeated over and over, with the same basic accompaniment?).   "Mother Goose Suite" has got to be one of my most absolute favorite orchestral pieces, and the fact that is has 'the' major contrabassoon solo = in the literature does not even figure into my feelings (although it usually = guarantees a solo bow at the end). Granted, there are so many more emotions and feelings which can be expressed through creative orchestration than = through the original piano duet version, but I cannot see how the piece could be = "boring".   Have you listened to the whole suite? A good performance of the piano duet =   version is breath taking. A good performance (especially live) of the orchestral version, especially with your eyes closed and being aware of = the program notes is almost other-worldly, in that the music so clearly describes what =   Ravel was thinking while he composed it.   I've performed the orchestral version several times, a woodwind 5tet = version many times, as well as a band version once. Even the later was quite successful since it was done by an arranger who understood the piece as a = whole, and how to transfer it to a different performing medium.   Organ Content: None, but I'd like to hear a good organ transcription. Does =   anyone know of a good one?   Richard Spittel Baltimore, MD           ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:       --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football
(back) Subject: Standing ovations From: "Mark Quarmby" <mark_quarmby@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:42:01 +1000   I must admit I was always surprised when I first went to the States for an AGO convention to find everyone leaping to their feet at the end of every performance, or was it just a method for trying to get out of the church an= d onto the buses to the next venue first? :-)   Certainly in Australia, as in the UK and many other countries, a standing ovation is the "last resort" when one has been completely overwhelmed by a spectacular performance, not just merely entertained. Visiting American organists, unaware of customs in the rest of the world are sometimes left feeling that their performances have not been appreciated, when in fact the= y have.   I guess it is a purely cultural thing. Has anyone else experienced the rapturous applause after a good concert in France? The French REALLY know how to applaud (and do so sitting down!).   Cheers,   Mark         --=20   Mark A Quarmby Assistant Organist, St Andrew=B9s Cathedral, Sydney     Email: mark_quarmby@yahoo.com Website: http://mq.sydneyorgan.com        
(back) Subject: RE: Standing ovations From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:59:42 +1200   >Certainly in Australia, as in the UK and many other countries, a standing ovation is the "last resort" when one has been completely overwhelmed by a spectacular performance, not just merely entertained.   Same here in NZ, as you would know from your own experience. Your playing here is very highly regarded indeed, esteemed by organists, yet I doubt if you would ever get a standing ovation in a cathedral audience.   Even Gillian Weir does not achieve that in her home country except in the Wellington Town Hall. (I should add that I have not heard you play, so = make no comparisons here). :-)   Yes, how to show appreciation is very definitely a cultural thing and even within a particular culture the setting allows for differences as to how that's expressed.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Kilgen Opus List From: "Philip A. Spressart" <pipeorganbuilder@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:19:41 -0500   Hello Listers   I am looking for a list of Kilgen's opus numbers and where they were installed. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance.   Philip A. Spressart      
(back) Subject: Re: Kilgen Opus List From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:55:24 EDT   The Kilgen records are in the possession of the St. Louis Organ Company.  
(back) Subject: Re: Mother Goose Suite From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:57:09 EDT   "Oh Noooooooooooooooooooo!" Mr. Bill Ravel's Mother Goose Suite and the AGO organ composition are completely different pieces. Please ask your piano teacher what "impressionistic" music is. Ask him or =   her to PLAY examples for you, not just talk about them. Look at = impressionistic paintings as well. It sounds like you were required to play a wonderful piece of Ravel's by learning the notes and NOT the music. Justin Hartz