PipeChat Digest #5451 - Friday, July 8, 2005
 
Re: Organ Peril
  by "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com>
free pipe organ
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Re: Johannus sound module for sale
  by <rvscara@aol.com>
Johannus SOund Module
  by <rvscara@aol.com>
RE: Fort Chest
  by <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Fort Chest
  by <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: To tune a Walker
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Organ Peril
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organ Peril From: "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:49:30 -0700   One thing I wish is that churches and others would quit trying to preserve intact instruments all the time (except in very special cases). I don't know if that's happening here, but again and again I see "free to a good home, as long as its not altered" or whatever. It is not often that an organ is just right for a church it wasn't originally designed for without alterations. Especially the physical layout. Sometimes, I think it would be a far nobler fate for an organ to donate its best pipes to better organs than to remain intact. The organ world would benefit far more from parts, I think, than from whole organs in many cases. New organs could incorporate these parts and be much more affordable. Andy   On 7/7/05, Douglas Henn-Macrae <douglas@henn-macrae.com> wrote: > It's not as good as it looks from the specification. > The sound isn't too bad, but not particularly exciting or inspiring. > There were some intermittent ciphers when my choir sang there in April (a= t > least during the rehearsal - it behaved perfectly for the concert!). > [In the unlikely event anybody would be interested in that story, see > www.gundulf.org.uk.] > The console is nice. 'Twould be a shame to see that on a bonfire.  
(back) Subject: free pipe organ From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:53:22 -0700     I saw a 3/29 organ of various sources (beautiful P & S manuals) with a number of new ranks - photos of existing pipework look like very good condition. Most recently renovated in mid 80's. Follow the link:   www.christchurchexeter.org/organ.htm   They need to do something ASAP and a decision will be made this weekend.   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California        
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus sound module for sale From: <rvscara@aol.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:33:27 -0400   Will let you know after I get back to NJ this weekend, if that is OK. = Thanks for the info and I did check the Johannus site. I guess "no piano" = isn't that bad. I have to check the hook-up on the Rodgers and read the = manual. THANKS -----Original Message----- From: Roy Daniels <roydanls@sbcglobal.net> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Sent: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Johannus sound module for sale     St. Michael's is offering their Johannus sound module model CSM-128 for = sale. It is only 4 years old and seldom used so is in perfect shape. Original cost = was $1400..asking $850. It is very user friendly, has 48 sounds and you can = have multiple sounds on each channel. Please email me at roydanls@sbcglobal.net = for any further info. Shipping is included. Roy Daniels   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>  
(back) Subject: Johannus SOund Module From: <rvscara@aol.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:35:16 -0400   Sorry; this was to go direct to sender and I hit the SEND to quickly.  
(back) Subject: RE: Fort Chest From: <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:37:13 -0500 (CDT)   In the early days of the revival of tracker action organs, and before the development of succesfull slider seals, Otto Hofmann of Austin Texas was looking for a solution to sticking sliders. He came up with the "sliderless" chest which used a leather membrane instead of a slider for stop action. His chest builder for many of these organs was Helmut Hartmann of Austin, Texas. John Fort also bought some chests from Helmut, some of which have electric pulldowns for the pallets. There are some advantages, but many disadvantages to this type of stop action. If you need further information, please contact me directly. Roy Redman > > Has anyone had anyone had dealings with windchests built by John Fort = of > Texas? A friend is interested in finding out just what kind of pallet > Fort used > in his so-called "membrane" pallet & slider chests. Since he uses a > "membrane" (similar to a Moller Bar Chest) for the stop action, there = are > no sliders. > One person says that Fort uses direct electric magnets instead of > pallets, > so calling the thing a pallet & slider chest when it has neither has me > highly amused. IHe is also interested to know if anyone has tried to > convert the > "membrane" stop action to an actual slider. > > Please respond directly to [mlauffer "at" ameritech (dot) net] about > the > Fort chests. Also, write "Fort Chest" in the subject line so that Mike > knows > you are responding to this request. > > Thank you very much for any help on this matter. > > Stan Krider > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Fort Chest From: <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:37:13 -0500 (CDT)   In the early days of the revival of tracker action organs, and before the development of succesfull slider seals, Otto Hofmann of Austin Texas was looking for a solution to sticking sliders. He came up with the "sliderless" chest which used a leather membrane instead of a slider for stop action. His chest builder for many of these organs was Helmut Hartmann of Austin, Texas. John Fort also bought some chests from Helmut, some of which have electric pulldowns for the pallets. There are some advantages, but many disadvantages to this type of stop action. If you need further information, please contact me directly. Roy Redman > > Has anyone had anyone had dealings with windchests built by John Fort = of > Texas? A friend is interested in finding out just what kind of pallet > Fort used > in his so-called "membrane" pallet & slider chests. Since he uses a > "membrane" (similar to a Moller Bar Chest) for the stop action, there = are > no sliders. > One person says that Fort uses direct electric magnets instead of > pallets, > so calling the thing a pallet & slider chest when it has neither has me > highly amused. IHe is also interested to know if anyone has tried to > convert the > "membrane" stop action to an actual slider. > > Please respond directly to [mlauffer "at" ameritech (dot) net] about > the > Fort chests. Also, write "Fort Chest" in the subject line so that Mike > knows > you are responding to this request. > > Thank you very much for any help on this matter. > > Stan Krider > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re: To tune a Walker From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:30:22 -0400   >>I assume you are aware that the recent (10 years or so) Walker systems >>have random out-of-tuneness built in?   Hi there,   I haven't a clue about Walker systems to be honest. In fact, this Casavant is the first organ I've ever worked with that has digital manual voices. After that, only four other instruments I tune have digital 32's, and one of those organ's 32's are dead as a doornail. (C:   - Nate    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Peril From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:02:41 -0400   >> The organ is of unknown provenance, and had been re- re- rebuilt by two >> local organ servicemen over the decades. Since I do not know their work, and >> have never heard either of them mentioned by any colleagues, I have no >> information about their outlook or abilities as organbuilders.   Good evening.   The history and chamber pictures certainly leave the impression of it being a 57-variety organ.   However, I must say there is a special aspect to this sort of instrument that I enjoy; that they offer a chance for a builder to have a positive effect on the music of the Churches that own them. For instance, if an organ has terrible pressure drop, the combination action doesn't work right, the temperament is all wrong, the Celestes are tuned incorrectly, the reeds are out of regulation, the tremolo doesn't work, the flutes slip sharp all of the time, etc... I thoroughly enjoy making all of that go away, as I am sure any other builder does. Sure, all of that won't make it a fantastic organ, but it will enhance the enjoyment of it. Since these organs exist to provide for a certain market of low-cost instruments, I'm just sort of glad that they are where they are, and what they are; even if they aren't big name organs.   Now let's talk about your new 3-manual organ that's in the works.   - Nate