PipeChat Digest #5478 - Friday, July 29, 2005
 
Temperament for practice organ
  by "Jorge Gomez" <qvixotes@yahoo.com>
Re: Temperament for practice organ
  by "Richard Heggs" <rheggs@gmail.com>
Re: Digitals--was Richard Morris
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: Temperament for practice organ
  by "Douglas Henn-Macrae" <douglas@henn-macrae.com>
Re: Temperament for practice organ
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Pushing Hybrids
  by "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net>
RE: Pushing Hybrids
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net>
RE: Richard Morris
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
Re: Temperament for practice organ
  by "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net>
Pushing Hybrids (correction)
  by "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Digitals
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
IRC Reminder
  by "PipeChat Administration" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: cleaning wood pipes
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: Temperament for practice organ
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Three Rank Wicks Organ for sale
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Digitals
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Music Score preservation supplies
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Covenant Organs
  by "Anthony Nichols" <ruffatti2003@yahoo.com>
eBay insanity du jour
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: eBay insanity du jour
  by "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Digitals
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: eBay insanity du jour
  by "Donald R. Resor" <h100series@pacbell.net>
Re: Digitals
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: eBay insanity du jour
  by "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net>
Re: Digitals
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 

(back) Subject: Temperament for practice organ From: "Jorge Gomez" <qvixotes@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:45:42 +0200 (CEST)   Many thanks for your opinions about temperaments.   Practice organs at home is used for practising music for all periods (unless you have enough budget for three or more specific practice organs for Renaissance, Baroque, or Romanticism music).   If you have only one practice organ for all the music, you will have to choose one specific temperament. In think equal is not good for Renaissance and Baroque, and 1/4 meantone is good only for Renaissance. What would be the temperament that works well for all the music?   Many thanks   Jorge Gomez       ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, m=E1s seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es  
(back) Subject: Re: Temperament for practice organ From: "Richard Heggs" <rheggs@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:01:07 +0100   Hi List,   Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Please be gentle, I bruise easily.   On 7/29/05, Jorge Gomez <qvixotes@yahoo.com> wrote: > Many thanks for your opinions about temperaments. >=20 > Practice organs at home is used for practising music > for all periods (unless you have enough budget for > three or more specific practice organs for > Renaissance, Baroque, or Romanticism music).   I have Toccata III organ from Wyvern Organs (http://www.wyvernorgans.co.uk). In my not-so-humble opinion, the tone quality of the Wyvern system is absolutely outstanding. Amongst other things, the Toccata series has 6 well-known temperaments programmed into its computer, which can be selected fairly easily. I can't remember all of them off-hand but the ones which spring to mind are Mean Tone, Bach, D'Alembert and Pythagorean.   If anyone is looking for an organ for practice or for a small church or chapel, I heartily recommend that you give Wyvern a visit.   Regards, Richard  
(back) Subject: Re: Digitals--was Richard Morris From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:46:38 EDT   Since this topic wasn't about Richard Morris' CD anymore, I felt the topic =   heading should be changed.   My thoughts on digitals are that if you want a stock model (although with = the new Masterpiece Series, they are offering all sorts of customization, so they're really not stock models anymore) Rodgers is they way to go. = Rodgers, to my ears, has an added degree of warmth to the chorus that some of the = other major builders haven't succeeded in getting. With the Masterpiece Series organs, you get to pick samples, define what = the pistons do, all within the context of a template.   If you want to go with the purely custom digitial builders, you should = look at Marshall-Ogletree. Their Opus 1 at trinity Church, Wall Street, New = York, is serving as an interim instrument after the Aeolian-Skinner was heavily damaged in the 9/11 attacks. I have personally played the organ and it's = fabulous. It has gotten rave reviews from many people, including pipe organ = builders. You can hear a recording of it on their representative's webpage, www.legacyorgans.com. The recording is great, but hearing/playing it live = is just another experience. What I like about the Marshall-Ogletree instruments = is that their samples are not manipulated--what you hear is what you get. They = haven't been adjusted for air nose, for chiff, for contour, or for anything except = for volume balance within the context of the chorus.   The bottom line, however, is what sort of speaker system you are going to = put on it. Some companies skimp on this in order to save the church money. Unfortunately this is the worst thing anyone can do. I would rather have = fewer stops and more speakers, so they have to don't have to work as hard, the channeling can be done properly, and the sound can be spread evenly = through the room, instead of through two measly speakers aimed directly at the congregation. =   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: RE: Temperament for practice organ From: "Douglas Henn-Macrae" <douglas@henn-macrae.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:13:20 +0100   Richard,   I played a "Wyvern" Toccata a year or two ago - it was OK, I thought, but not outstanding. This range, along with their other cheaper models, are actually made by Content in Holland and served up with a Wyvern badge - though with some English samples and voiced by Wyvern staff, I believe (anyone who knows better, please correct me if I am mistaken).   Having that, however, I should say that comparing Content with most other makes (including Johannus, Viscount, Ahlborn, Rodgers) under one roof - as = I was able to do in two showrooms in Germany a couple of weeks ago - Content was the one that impressed me most, both for sound quality and the build quality of the consoles and equipment. If only one could do that kind of comparison here in the UK, rather than having to drive dozens - sometimes hundreds - of miles between the dealers' showrooms for each brand!   I e-mailed Content's UK agents in Cornwall a fortnight ago asking for prices, but have had no reply.   Best wishes,   Douglas.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Richard Heggs Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:01 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Temperament for practice organ   Hi List,   Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Please be gentle, I bruise easily.   On 7/29/05, Jorge Gomez <qvixotes@yahoo.com> wrote: > Many thanks for your opinions about temperaments. > > Practice organs at home is used for practising music > for all periods (unless you have enough budget for > three or more specific practice organs for > Renaissance, Baroque, or Romanticism music).   I have Toccata III organ from Wyvern Organs (http://www.wyvernorgans.co.uk). In my not-so-humble opinion, the tone quality of the Wyvern system is absolutely outstanding. Amongst other things, the Toccata series has 6 well-known temperaments programmed into its computer, which can be selected fairly easily. I can't remember all of them off-hand but the ones which spring to mind are Mean Tone, Bach, D'Alembert and Pythagorean.   If anyone is looking for an organ for practice or for a small church or chapel, I heartily recommend that you give Wyvern a visit.   Regards, Richard   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: Re: Temperament for practice organ From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:15:55 EDT     In a message dated 07/29/05 6:46:42 AM, qvixotes@yahoo.com writes:   << I think equal is not good for Renaissance and Baroque, and 1/4 = meantone is good only for Renaissance. What would be the temperament that works = well for all the music? >>   (1) How much Renaissance repertoire do you play? (2) My recollection is that Bach, who some consider a composer of Baroque music, wrote two rather large sets of keyboard works designed to be played = on rather just temperaments. (3) Equal temperament dates to the fifteenth century. It really does. It's =   just that most people choose to ignore the scholarship and prefer to stick = equal temperament in a nineteenth century slot for the sake of argument.   Tune your instrument as you wish, but don't use a bizarre temperament for = the sake of preciousness,   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City    
(back) Subject: Pushing Hybrids From: "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:05:22 -0500   My son was telling me over breakfast about some quasi organbuilder who] was on the Discovery channel. He was showing off some beast of his and stating that on 25% of the organ was actual pipes, the rest digital, His classic statement was to build this organ as total pipes would be well over a million dollars...in other words pure pipe organs are no = longer affordable for you to buy. How many potential organ committees are going to sucked into to the perverted kind of thinking.   Jon      
(back) Subject: RE: Pushing Hybrids From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:50:10 -0500   Jon, This was "Made in America" hosted by John Ratzenberger. It's a show about American based factories and businesses. They were touring the Rodgers factory. I watched about half of it before turning it off.   The Rodgers shop is impressive, but the things the people were saying made little sense. This could have been due to bad editing, however. Ratzenberger (as is his job) made light of lots of things, which = downplayed some of the larger points.   They were listening to a demonstration organ that did have a few ranks of pipes (they didn't say how many) but pointed out that an equivalent pipe organ would cost well over a million dollars. They then did the polka to organ music with the drawknob lights flashing in time.   Someone else who watched the whole thing can tell you how it ended. Brent Johnson ORGANLive - Music of the organ on demand http://www.organlive.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Jon C. Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:05 AM To: pipechattest@pipechat.org; PipeChat Subject: Pushing Hybrids   My son was telling me over breakfast about some quasi organbuilder who] was on the Discovery channel. He was showing off some beast of his and stating that on 25% of the organ was actual pipes, the rest digital, His classic statement was to build this organ as total pipes would be well over a million dollars...in other words pure pipe organs are no = longer affordable for you to buy. How many potential organ committees are going to sucked into to the perverted kind of thinking.   Jon       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>  
(back) Subject: RE: Richard Morris From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:43:15 -0400     > >Judging only from a CD, I'd rather have a Phoenix. If it's custom-built, >too, you don't have to pay for the rubbish you'd never use, and can have = the >things you do want. > >Just 1c worth. >Ross   Hi,   Judging an organ solely from a CD, is like judging a car based on a brochure. You cannot tell what the beast is like in real life until you play it.   The quality of the CD is based on how good the engineering is behind it, more-so than the quality of the instrument being recorded.   Just my half cents worth,   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: Temperament for practice organ From: "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:01:08 -0500   How about temperament for the practice organist<g>\   I could use some help there!     Jon      
(back) Subject: Pushing Hybrids (correction) From: "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:57:53 -0500   It was actually on the TRAVEL CHANNEL "Made in America" profilling the Rodger's Organ Company...no surprise here.     My son was telling me over breakfast about some quasi organbuilder who] was on the Discovery channel. He was showing off some beast of his and stating that on 25% of the organ was actual pipes, the rest digital, His classic statement was to build this organ as total pipes would be well over a million dollars...in other words pure pipe organs are no = longer affordable for you to buy. How many potential organ committees are going to sucked into to the perverted kind of thinking.   Jon      
(back) Subject: Re: Digitals From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:21:34 EDT   Monty:   While I agree with you on most things, I must point out endorsing a specific Co. can be a slippery slope. The builder you mentioned usually stretch tunes their organs for a warmer sound to cover the brittleness of the sound without it. A local church had a pipe organ, albeit a small one of nine ranks to which a 960 was added. At that time it was not equipped with heat sensor to automatically re tune the digital to the pipes. There was constant drift and the digital was stretch tuned. In the end, you get what you pay for. there are some good alternative organs out there, but you really can't judge their work from a CD. You have to spend the time to go hear them in person like you did with the Trinity Church organ. I also suggest playing for several hours on such an instrument to really decide whether you can live with the shortcomings as you notice them in tone. It used to be that there were only two games in town. Now there are several all unique and different. Some do a better job than others. I've come to the conclusion that "sampling" is not the only way to go, it's still an approximation. Wave form building as in the Trinity organ in many ways get superior results. In the end, it's what ever you can afford and live with.   My attempt is to be as even handed as possible, but you do need to go listen before you buy.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: IRC Reminder From: "PipeChat Administration" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:33:17 -0500   Just a reminder that the PipeChat IRC group will be meeting tonight on the #pipechat channel beginning at 9:00 PM EASTERN time. We hope some more of you will join us and please don't be afraid to "pipe up".   For information on how to join the channel please go to http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html And alternatively you can use your web browser to join us by point it to http://irc.pipechat.org:8080/   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: cleaning wood pipes From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:39:23 EDT   I agree with Sebastian and wish to add: Since many organ pipes are made out of pine or other softwood, = linseed or any other kind of oil should not be used. Softwoods do not absorb oil evenly. If the pipes don't warp and fall apart, at the very least you will be left with what might possibly be the =   ugliest pipes on the planet. Again, never use oil on softwood! Justin Hartz Son of a woodworking teacher  
(back) Subject: Re: Temperament for practice organ From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:44:20 EDT   Jon:   My recommendation would be Vallotti for a small unit pipe organ. It is close to equal temperament, all keys are playable, there is some key color, but a satisfying sound all round. The derived quints and tierces sound more in tune. Vallotti is a form of well temper well suited to most periods of music including Baroque to modern. All are compromises, but this seems to cover all the bases very well. The advantage with a unit organ is the thirds and sixths are much more in tune with the unisons. You will notice the difference right away. Great for choral accompaniment as it keeps the choir more on track harmonically. Bach tuned to a very similar scheme rejecting equal temp. as way too extreme. In Equal the thirds are 15 to 17 beats per second out of tune in the upper registers. Reeds are happier too, staying in better tune.   Ron Severin   PS: Sebastian sometimes likes to pull legs. Fifteenth Century is a bit of a stretch for equal tuning. We know for sure Bach knew about it in the eighteenth century as did famous organ builders of the period, but rejected the idea because of the adverse effect on over all tone especially mixtures and mutations and of course the reeds. Well temper was popular for harpsichords and clavichords, but pipe organs were tuned 1/4, 1/5 and 1/6 comma mean tone. There was a good reason for this, it wasn't ignorance, it was for beautiful tone. Dom Bedos everyone likes to quote never mentions equal temperament as the way to tune in the future either. He was and is considered the "father" of the modern builders art.  
(back) Subject: Three Rank Wicks Organ for sale From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:32:45 EDT   Hello- I am selling a 3 rank Wicks organ from the 1950s. All enclosed--case is 7'10' high. The ranks are flute, diapason, salicional. The subbas is = pipe-and quite powerful. The organ is in storage in Chicago. Thanks- gfc       Gregory F. Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Digitals From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:47:21 -0500   The Trinity organ is a sampled organ, it does not use a waveform building system. Very, very good samples of course but still samples.   On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:21 PM, RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > I've come to the conclusion that "sampling" is not the only > way to go, it's still an approximation. Wave form building > as in the Trinity organ in many ways get superior results. > In the end, it's what ever you can afford and live with. >   Russ Greene ---------------------------------- Organist/Choirmaster St. Andrew's Anglican Church (Woodhaven) Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada      
(back) Subject: Music Score preservation supplies From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:54:33 EDT       _http://www.gamblemusic.com/index.cfm?category=3D4_ (http://www.gamblemusic.com/index.cfm?category=3D4)     Here is what some were asking about - and what we all = (organists/pianists) need, the 10 yd. rolls of cloth hinge tape. I'm not an employee of GAMBLES (nor a stockholder). D. G. Rider Missouri    
(back) Subject: Covenant Organs From: "Anthony Nichols" <ruffatti2003@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:32:49 -0700 (PDT)     Hello,   If you're looking for an electronic organ that is of the same quality as = Copeman-Hart try Covenant Organs. We are in the States and are able to = provide affordable instruments of high quality for less cost than would be = spent with a builder such as Copeman-Hart. Visit our website = www.covenantorgans.com for more information or feel free to e-mail me at = contrebombarde_32@yahoo.com for a listening CD.   Sincerely,   Anthony Nichols Representative, Covenant Organs contrebombarde_32@yahoo.com www.covenantorgans.com   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: eBay insanity du jour From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:39:27 -0500   Gotta give 'em credit for originality, at least..., I guess...?   http://cgi.ebay.com/Mother-Maybelle-Carters-Estey-Pump-Organ_W0QQitemZ75322= 34039QQcategoryZ108742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem   (item # 7532234039)   Cheers!   Tim      
(back) Subject: Re: eBay insanity du jour From: "Jon C." <opus1100@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:54:49 -0500   Considering the Ripley effect....some darn fool you just grab it at the buy it now price   Jon     At 04:39 PM 7/29/2005, you wrote: >Gotta give 'em credit for originality, at least..., I guess...? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Mother-Maybelle-Carters-Estey-Pump-Organ_W0QQitemZ7532= 234039QQcategoryZ108742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >(item # 7532234039) > >Cheers! > >Tim > > >****************************************************************** >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >      
(back) Subject: Re: Digitals From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:30:29 EDT   Ron, you used the expression, "stretch tune", but I don't know what that means. Would you mind elaborating on it, if you please? Thanks. Darryl  
(back) Subject: Re: eBay insanity du jour From: "Donald R. Resor" <h100series@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:32:35 -0700   I would not want to pay the listing fees on that one after it doesn't sell = ;)   At 02:39 PM 7/29/2005, Tim wrote: >Gotta give 'em credit for originality, at least..., I guess...? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Mother-Maybelle-Carters-Estey-Pump-Organ_W0QQitemZ7532= 234039QQcategoryZ108742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem   Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://go.to/tonewheels Carillon Web Ring http://g.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dthecarillonwebri Organ Builders and Dealers Web Ring http://u.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dorganbuildersand "That was so terrible, I think you gave me cancer!" LOL      
(back) Subject: Re: Digitals From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:50:06 -0400   I must "pipe up" with regards to the Trinity Wall St. organ. If you can see it, go. While I do not endorse digitals as pipe equals, this one is quite amazing. . . but perhaps a bit too realistic. It is amazing to hear the blower start and the swell shades clack open when one presses the power button, but it begs the question, is it really necessary? I found it to be the most agreeable digital that I have ever played-- and for the price, it damn well should be!   NFR   --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: eBay insanity du jour From: "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:00:52 -0500   If I figured it out right its just under $800 in reserve fees.   Trav ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald R. Resor" <h100series@pacbell.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: eBay insanity du jour     > I would not want to pay the listing fees on that one after it doesn't = sell ;) > > At 02:39 PM 7/29/2005, Tim wrote: > >Gotta give 'em credit for originality, at least..., I guess...? > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Mother-Maybelle-Carters-Estey-Pump-Organ_W0QQitemZ7532= 2 34039QQcategoryZ108742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://go.to/tonewheels > Carillon Web Ring http://g.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dthecarillonwebri > Organ Builders and Dealers Web Ring > http://u.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dorganbuildersand > "That was so terrible, I think you gave me cancer!" LOL > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Re: Digitals From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:01:35 -0500   At 7:50 PM -0400 7/29/05, N. Russotto wrote: >It is >amazing to hear the blower start and the swell shades clack open when >one presses the power button, but it begs the question, is it really >necessary?   And some of us that build pipe organs go out of our way to make sure that the noise from the blowers starting up or the swell shades is not able to be heard. Actually, if the Swell Shades "clack" open when the power is turned on something very definitely is wrong since the shades should be set to be open whenever the organ is off. Sounds like "smoke and mirrors" on the part of the builders of this instrument!   David