PipeChat Digest #5385 - Wednesday, June 1, 2005
 
Re: Lemare Organ Works/Transcriptions
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Franck's PF&V
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Organ parts for Sale in NH
  by "Harry Martenas" <harry.martenas@gmail.com>
RE: Niels Gade
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net>
Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner 985 vs. 891
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
WHICH?? RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
RE: Aeolian-Skinner 985 vs. 891
  by "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: WHICH?? RE: Ernest White designed organ in NYC
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Re: WHICH  NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: WHICH?? RE: Ernest White designed organ in NYC
  by <OrganNYC@aol.com>
RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?
  by "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
RE: modest sized Mollers
  by <giwro@adelphia.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Organ Works/Transcriptions From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:04:26 EDT   In a message dated 6/1/2005 6:10:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, dhancock@brpae.com writes: If not, any other ideas on sources for this piece?   Daniel Hancock Springfield, Missouri this piece was re-published in a couple of antholi\ogies of 'popular' = organ music by (among others) AMSCO publishers. I have a copy that I acquired at = the U VA music library from one of the AMSCo volumes.   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Franck's PF&V From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:07:06 EDT   In a message dated 6/1/05 11:17:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, littlebayus@yahoo.com writes:   > Although I do not play the english horn, I suggested > the english horn because I too really prefer the sound > of an english horn to the sound of an oboe...   this past spring during lent we had an english horn player who played on bach's "mache dich" (the last bass aria from the st. matthew passion) and = a simple but beautiful arrangement of "lonesome valley". the 2nd piece was = the postlude, and i actually had some people come to me afterwards in tears, = saying it was so moving.   little moments like that are what count.   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ parts for Sale in NH From: "Harry Martenas" <harry.martenas@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:08:52 -0400   > >We purchased a building in NH with the contents which was a Organ repair > >business. So we have endless organ parts and pipes. > >The Sale is Sat. June 11, 2005, 9 to 12 at 216 Spinney Road in Portsmout= h, > >NH. It will be CASH AND CARRY! > >Thank you   I can only hope that there is a list member nearby NH this weekend to pick up some real bargains.   This might be junk - or it might be valuable. The tools alone could really be a steal - but impossible to say.  
(back) Subject: RE: Niels Gade From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:11:04 -0500   Daniel, there are a few of his works (all smaller works, if I recall correctly), in the Leupold collection "The Mendelssohn School". If you need a list, e-mail me and I'll find my volume.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hancock Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:19 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Niels Gade   Does anyone know where information can be located on the organ works of Niels Gade? Or perhaps where collections might still be in print?        
(back) Subject: Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:25:37 -0400   I agree with Barry. How cant you think that case is noteworthy? However, th= e=20 Dome division at St. Pauls IS pretty cool. NFR   On 6/1/05, Barry H Bodie <bbodie@infoave.net> wrote:=20 >=20 > St. Mary the Virgin - hands down. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Desiree' > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:55 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? >=20 > St Mary the Virgin > or St Pauls Chapel >=20 > Which is more noteworthy? >=20 > TDH >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:26:13 -0500   Which St. Paul's Chapel? Trinity Church or Columbia University??   Michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Barry H Bodie Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:12 PM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?   St. Mary the Virgin - hands down.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Desiree' Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:55 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?   St Mary the Virgin or St Pauls Chapel Which is more noteworthy?    
(back) Subject: Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:34:46 -0400   I assumed Colombia U, as it is also a 4m 94r Aeolian, and not at Trinity,= =20 which is a non functional Geo. Bozeman, 1 m   On 6/1/05, Michael David <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> wrote:=20 >=20 > Which St. Paul's Chapel? Trinity Church or Columbia University?? >=20 > Michael >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Barry H Bodie > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:12 PM > To: 'PipeChat' > Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? >=20 > St. Mary the Virgin - hands down. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Desiree' > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:55 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? >=20 > St Mary the Virgin > or St Pauls Chapel >=20 > Which is more noteworthy? >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:38:41 -0400   There is no case at St. Mary the Virgin. Apparently one was designed, but never built. The choir organ is also a sham, though there is an = operational console up front on the Gospel side of the sanctuary.   The sheer volume of sound emanating from the organ at SM-V is incredible. The organists often leave the swell boxes closed during hymns in order not to drown out the congregation. I heard Gerre Hancock play a recital there only a few weeks ago. His registration was exquisite. On one of the pieces he played by Reger (I don't honestly remember which piece it was due to = the pre-recital martinis and the gorgeous leggy blonde woman seated to my left who was making eyes at me), he left the swell box closed until the final chords and then opened it up. The effect was like unleashing caged = thunder. He also demonstrated the instrument's versatility as a theatre organ by performing several choruses of "New York, New York" as an encore!   Clearly my favorite instrument in New York. The two Bobs do a fantastic = job on Sunday mornings as well. If you want to hear some impressive improvisation, attend the 11 AM mass on Sunday mornings.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of N Russotto Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:26 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?   I agree with Barry. How cant you think that case is noteworthy? However, = the   Dome division at St. Pauls IS pretty cool. NFR   On 6/1/05, Barry H Bodie <bbodie@infoave.net> wrote: > > St. Mary the Virgin - hands down. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Desiree' > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:55 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? > > St Mary the Virgin > or St Pauls Chapel > > Which is more noteworthy? > > TDH > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >     -- Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:41:39 -0400   >=20 > There is no case at St. Mary the Virgin.   Okay, Okay, lack of a case. Regardless, it looks COOL!         --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner 985 vs. 891 From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:00:52 EDT   Saint Paul's Chapel, Columbia University was my practice organ, many hours a day, for nine years. My Master's thesis was on Saint Mary the Virgin. They are both noteworthy and one cannot pit them against each other. = They are contrastable and comparable, but one cannot "rate" them -- they are simply different animals. Certainly, Saint Mary's has undergone the more = radical changes and transformations over time, and we cannot judge it as = effectively for its authenticity to Harrison's ideals as we can Saint Paul's. I'll write about it more later, but at the moment, it's still 4 am for =   me, as I am quite jetlagged.   Sebastian M. Gluck back in New York City  
(back) Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:08:57 -0700 (PDT)   Columbia U's St Pauls Chapel     Michael David <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> wrote: Which St. Paul's Chapel? Trinity Church or Columbia University??   Michael     --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it = out!
(back) Subject: WHICH?? RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:14:57 -0500   Shouldn't that be "WHICH NYC Organ is more noteworthy of the two?" I don't know of any "White" organs unless you might be referring to something that Ernest White designed. And i dont' know how many of Ernest's organs are still around.   David  
(back) Subject: RE: Aeolian-Skinner 985 vs. 891 From: "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:14:19 -0400   Quite so. The St. Mary's organ was never complete in the form the G. = Donald Harrison imagined. I believe there were a number of stops which were installed and later disconnected, but which still remain in place. I think one of them is a euphonium at 32' pitch. I may, however, be getting this instrument mixed up with another. It also suffered the ravages of Ernest White during his tenure as organist. Another instrument of his design was located in the basement of the church and later moved to St. Paul's church in Chicago. It apparently had mixtures and mutations sprouting out of everywhere and served as a model for the Ernest White-designed organ at = St. George's Church on Stuyvesant Square.   I also just learned that the powerful bombarde harmonique stop at St. = Mary's came from the GDH trumpet en chamade beneath the rose window at St. = Thomas' Church on Fifth Avenue.   Seb, is there any chance I could have a look at your thesis on the St. Mary's organ? Any other information you might have on the instrument would be extremely interesting to me as well.   Barry Bodie bbodie@infoave.net   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of TubaMagna@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:01 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner 985 vs. 891   Saint Paul's Chapel, Columbia University was my practice organ, many hours a day, for nine years. My Master's thesis was on Saint Mary the Virgin. They are both noteworthy and one cannot pit them against each other. They are contrastable and comparable, but one cannot "rate" them -- they are simply different animals. Certainly, Saint Mary's has undergone the more radical changes and transformations over time, and we cannot judge it as = effectively for its authenticity to Harrison's ideals as we can Saint Paul's. I'll write about it more later, but at the moment, it's still 4 am for =   me, as I am quite jetlagged.   Sebastian M. Gluck back in New York City   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:17:02 -0500   Obviously this recital was enjoyable on several levels for you!   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Barry H Bodie   The sheer volume of sound emanating from the organ at SM-V is incredible. The organists often leave the swell boxes closed during hymns in order not to drown out the congregation. I heard Gerre Hancock play a recital there only a few weeks ago. His registration was exquisite. On one of the pieces he played by Reger (I don't honestly remember which piece it was due to the pre-recital martinis and the gorgeous leggy blonde woman seated to my left who was making eyes at me), he left the swell box closed until the final chords and then opened it up. The effect was like unleashing caged thunder. He also demonstrated the instrument's versatility as a theatre organ by performing several choruses of "New York, New York" as an encore!        
(back) Subject: Re: WHICH?? RE: Ernest White designed organ in NYC From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:38:50 -0500   I believe the Moller, #9213 - 3/34 - 1959 at Ch. of Our Saviour, NYC is an =   Ernest White design still in use.   Sand Lawn   ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: WHICH?? RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?     > Shouldn't that be "WHICH NYC Organ is more noteworthy of the two?" I > don't know of any "White" organs unless you might be referring to > something that Ernest White designed. And i dont' know how many of > Ernest's organs are still around. > > David > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Re: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 02:33:11 +0000   Noteworthy in which way? Noteworthy in an historic/artistic sense, or noteworty in a flashy-dashy degree recital instrument? Isn't St. Mary's = the Virgin also known as Smoky Mary's? If you played at St. Mary's you could = have the place so filled with incense that it wouldn't matter what the organ sounded like.   Jon Kroepel  
(back) Subject: Re: WHICH NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:39:08 -0700 (PDT)   In the Historical/Artistic sense, Jonny. LOL Yes ST Mary is "Smoky Mary's" I think Sebastian was right in that they are both two totally (and = tonally) different organs. Signed Desiree'...whos on 250Mg Claritin, 1 CC Benedryl shot, AND 500 Mg nasal = spray AKA THE Allergic Organist     jonkroepel@insightbb.com wrote: Noteworthy in which way? Noteworthy in an historic/artistic sense, or noteworty in a flashy-dashy degree recital instrument? Isn't St. Mary's = the Virgin also known as Smoky Mary's? If you played at St. Mary's you could = have the place so filled with incense that it wouldn't matter what the organ sounded like.   Jon Kroepel   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: WHICH?? RE: Ernest White designed organ in NYC From: <OrganNYC@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:49:02 EDT   Alas, the Moller 'tis no more, having been replaced very recently by a = new Schantz. _http://nycago.org/Organs/html/ChOurSaviourRC.html_ (http://nycago.org/Organs/html/ChOurSaviourRC.html) Steve In a message dated 6/1/2005 10:31:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, glawn@jam.rr.com writes:   I believe the Moller, #9213 - 3/34 - 1959 at Ch. of Our Saviour, NYC is = an Ernest White design still in use.   Sand Lawn          
(back) Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two? From: "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:38:01 -0400   Shall we just say, "Multiple," and leave it at that.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Glenda Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:17 PM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: White NYC organ is more noteworthy of the two?   Obviously this recital was enjoyable on several levels for you!   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Barry H Bodie   The sheer volume of sound emanating from the organ at SM-V is incredible. The organists often leave the swell boxes closed during hymns in order not to drown out the congregation. I heard Gerre Hancock play a recital there only a few weeks ago. His registration was exquisite. On one of the pieces he played by Reger (I don't honestly remember which piece it was due to the pre-recital martinis and the gorgeous leggy blonde woman seated to my left who was making eyes at me), he left the swell box closed until the final chords and then opened it up. The effect was like unleashing caged thunder. He also demonstrated the instrument's versatility as a theatre organ by performing several choruses of "New York, New York" as an encore!         ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: RE: modest sized Mollers From: <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 0:27:51 -0400   Well... good!   I'm uncharacteristically cranky today, so I apologize for my hasty judgement...   I do enjoy the discussions we have on these lists (except when it degenerates, then I just make liberal used of the DELETE key <G>)   We all have so much to learn from one another - everyone brings differing = knowledge and experience (yea, and differing tastes, even!) to this = discussion, and in the 10 years I've been on organ lists, I have learned = TONS of interesteing info, made some dear friends and have been = encouraged, stimulated and sometimes outraged, often have found myself = chuckling... <G>   The number of people who love the organ seems to be shrinking, and I'm = grateful to you all for being a community with whom I can share what is = becoming an increasingly obscure passion - the Organ and its music.   Now, I need that nap <G> (I've exhausted my store of niceness for the day - need to replenish)   <chuckle>   -Jonathan ---- TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >I guess what I'm trying to get across is that while I tolerate your = strong > opinions and even allow for them, you sometimes irritate me, as it seems = you > don't do me (and others) the courtesy of the same. Mebbe I just need a = nap > or some coffee, but I get tired of it sometimes... > > My apologies as I was not intending to irritate you or anyone else. = Against > that, you see, I believe that as congregations are becoming smaller and = less > interested in the organ, that process will speed up if the parishes are > encumbered with huge tuning, maintenance and rebuild costs, making them = more > likely to turn to a quick-fix electroid or ditch an organ altogether.