PipeChat Digest #5407 - Wednesday, June 15, 2005
 
Re: Music at Immanuel 8-12: Celebration of the Music Ministry Year
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: St Johns Anglican Pictures(Urgent)
  by "TGrenz" <octaaf@charter.net>
1962 Wicks 3-15 for sale
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <wvanpelt@erols.com>
Re: Uploading pics.  of St Johns Anglican Church in Lunenburg
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Question on Policy?
  by "Linda Kay Strouf" <strouf@hope.edu>
OHS Convention Registration Rate Increases Thursday
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on life
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Kalamazoo Trip
  by "Scott A Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Re: Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on life
  by "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com>
Re: Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on life
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Violinist joke
  by "jlinger@snet.net" <jlinger@aya.yale.edu>
Re: Question on Policy?
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: Question on Policy?
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Music at Immanuel 8-12: Celebration of the Music Ministry Year From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:07:02 -0700 (PDT)   Jonny...HUSH! Lol Email off list for the Desiree Birthday cel;ebration schedule. LOL     jonkroepel <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> wrote: What? They didn't sing Happy Birthday to you? They could have done that after the Benediction.   Jon Kroepel > > Prelude and Choral Processional--Toccata -Widor > Opening Litanie---written by JA Alfred using the hymn "O For A Thousand > Tougues" (Azmon) > > Prayer Invocation--What a Friend We Have in Jesus (Converse) Verse 1 > > Call to Offering > Offertory Organ Solo Prelude in C BWV 545-A--JSB > > Choral Anthems-- > Cantate Donino--Pitoni > Elijah Rock--Hairston > Syahamba--arr. Doris Rau > Ain' Dat Good News--arr. Dawson > > Other Hymns > Ask me What Great Thing I Know (Hendon) > Sound Over All Waters (St Denio) > Benediction Response--Joy To the World vs. 1 (This was NOT my choice) > > Postlude-CWM Rhonda Arr. Mark Kellner (found in Worship Hymns for Organ > pub. Lillenas. Very fun setting of this and a fresh, somewhat jazzy > addition to CWM Rhonda settings by Manz, etc) > > Well received by all. > > Just cant keep the big spray of flowers I was given...they are driving = my > nose NUTS! > ---------------------------- > > > From Desiree' > T. Desiree' Hines > Chicago, IL 60610 > ---------------------------- > For Compositions by Desiree' > Frog Music Press > www.frogmusic.com > ------------------------------- > FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' > http://www.concertartist.info/bios/hines.html > --------------------------------------------- > Desiree' Hines plays the Organ at Fourth Presbyterian Church of Chicago > > = http://www.organlive.com/index.php?p=3D6&album=3DDesiree%20Hines%20plays%20= the%20Organ%20at%20The%20Fourth%20Presbyterian%20Church%20of%20Chicago > > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: > List-Digest: > List-Unsubscribe: >     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: St Johns Anglican Pictures(Urgent) From: "TGrenz" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:14:52 -0500   Daniel,   I would be happy to host your photos. Contact me off list :)   Tim Grenz   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: St Johns Anglican Pictures(Urgent)     > does anybody have about 2 mbs of space I can use to upload these that > everyone who wishes could have access to view them? > Daniel > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >  
(back) Subject: 1962 Wicks 3-15 for sale From: "William T. Van Pelt" <wvanpelt@erols.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:53:07 -0400   Wicks op. 4172 built in 1962 was removed from New Bridge Baptist Church in Richmond, VA, when the congregation constructed a new building, and the organ has been in storage for about two years. Don't ask me why the congregation didn't take the organ with them -- you don't want to know. The instrument is owned by organbuilder Ron Tindall evietin@regent.edu 757-879-4958 who wishes to sell it ASAP for around $10,000 as-is, where-is, or for more money if he is to install it. It must be removed from storage very soon, ideally by the end of June.   I heard this organ once many years ago in a church service. I remember very little about it, other than it sounds like a real organ and was pleasant. I have not seen the organ in storage. So, please direct your inquiries directly to Ron.   The organ has its original three-manual console with ivory key coverings in a case of "Colonial" style -- that means it is painted white. The console dimensions are 39.25" x 69.25" x 50.25"   Each of the two chambers from which the organ as removed were 15' x 8'-10" x 13' high. That is, the organ chamber need be no more than 13' high, and the 16' Contra Diapason of metal is mitred to fit beneath that height.   The organ has 15 ranks of pipes, and there is space provided on the windchests for four additional ranks. The console is prepared for several additional stops as indicated below.   Ron said that the organ is in fairly good condition though some pipes are damaged and will require repair. The organ is now in pipe trays. All of the original switching mechanism is stored as well. Ron suggests the best option would be replacement of the electromechanical switching with solid state equipment and rewiring/renovation of the console to work with the new switching equipment.   GREAT 8' Principal 8' Hohl Flute 8' Dulciana 4' Octave 4' Flute 2' Super Octave Chimes 2 blanks on console CHOIR 8' Concert Flute 8' Dulciana 4' Koppel Flute 4' Dulciana 2-2/3' Nazard 2 Koppel Flute 8' Clarinet Tremulant 1 blank on console SWELL 16' Lieblich Gedacht 8' Viola Pomposa 8' Viola Celeste 8' Gedeckt 4' Flute d'Amour 2-2/3' Flute Quinte 1-3/5' Terz 8' Trumpet 8' English Horn 4' Clarion 3 blanks on console PEDAL 16' Contra Diapason 16' Bourdon 16' Lieblich Gedackt 8' Principal 8' Bourdon 8' Gedackt 5-1/3' Quinte 4' Choral Bass 4' Flute 8' Trumpet 1 blank on console  
(back) Subject: Re: Uploading pics. of St Johns Anglican Church in Lunenburg From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:35:17 -0300   Thank oyu everybody for your generosity , I have uploaded them to = Webshots there are two ways of gettign to the pictures, for anyone who wants to view them go to http://community.webshots.com/user/danielwh   or   http://client.webshots.com/album/368762242lCMVed Please enjoy.   Danielwh    
(back) Subject: Question on Policy? From: "Linda Kay Strouf" <strouf@hope.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:42:53 -0400   I'm sure this has come up before, so if someone can point me to the right place in the archives I am happy to go there...     What is your church's policy regarding tape/CD accompaniment trax or = tape/CD in place of "live" musicians? My church needs to craft a well-worded = policy to avoid having the "sound guy" function as musician (which he is not.)     If you have a policy in place and would be willing to share that would be great! You can contact me off pipechat if you wish. Linda Strouf Minister of Music Third Reformed Church Holland, MI    
(back) Subject: OHS Convention Registration Rate Increases Thursday From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:01:43 -0400   The registration fee for the 2005 OHS Convention in Brockton, Mass., July 12-18, goes up $20 in cost on Thursday, so those who are planning to = attend the entire convention are encouraged to register by midnight tomorrow, = June 15, by calling OHS at 804-353-9226 or registering online at http://www.organsociety.org/2005 or mailing the registration so as to be postmarked by tomorrow. The early registration fee is $599 which includes all events, the motorcoach transportation, as well as luncheon and evening meals. Not included in the fee is a room in one of the convention hotels: the Radisson Hotel Brockton 508-588-6300 or the Super 8 Motel Brockton (508-588-8887) located next door to the Radisson   Those who cannot join us for the entire convention are urged to consider registering for individual days as you desire. The costs for individual days ranges $95 to $110 and also includes the meals, motorcoach transportation, and all events.   Here is the program for the next-to-last day (Sunday, 17 July) of this = year' s OHS Convention as provided by convention chairman Matthew Bellocchio:   Sunday, 17 July will focus on the Pilgrims. Following a buffet lunch at = the hotel we will visit the historic First Parish Church in Duxbury, the = second oldest (1632) church established in the Plymouth Colony, where Frances Conover Fitch will play the 1853 Wm. B. D. Simmons organ, rebuilt by = Andover Organ Company in 1967.   We will then ride to Plymouth, where we will visit the National Monument = to the Forefathers, the largest granite monument in the nation. Next, we = will go to Plimouth Plantation, a living history museum that recreates the Plymouth village as it was in 1627. After ample time to explore the plantation we will enjoy an authentic 1627 harvest dinner. Pilgrim re-enactors will be on hand to tell us about the food and instruct us in = the ways of 17th century table manners.   Following dinner we will go to the Church of the Pilgrimage (UCC) in the historic center of Plymouth, for "An Evening of Music" with Brian Jones = and the Rev. Dr. Peter Gomes, including hymns, anthems and organ pieces heard = in Plymouth in the mid-20th century. The Church of the Pilgrimage and First Baptist Church (Plymouth) choirs will sing. Music will include anthems by Shelley, Maunder, and Roberts, as well as hymns and organ music associated with the Pilgrims or with Plymouth, by MacDowell, Matthews and others. Peter and Brian will offer reflections and observations on the history of the organs and music of this significant church in "America's Home Town," where as teenagers they first became friends when Brian was organist at Church of the Pilgrimage, Peter's mother was Organist at First Baptist Church, and Peter was Organist at Memorial Methodist Church.   Further information about this, and other programs, is available at http://www.organsociety.org/2005 along with the convention schedule, pictures of the organs, registration information, and much more.    
(back) Subject: Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on life From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:13:16 EDT   Greetings all,   There are times when old organ pipe are no longer needed, and they must = be thrown away. When this happens, I attempt to recycle these pipes into a = new life.   About 60 such orphans are now available for adoption. These are from 6" = to 2' actual length mostly wood pipes from broken ranks. One artist uses the =   small ones, three at a time and glued together to paint flowers on the = fronts. Another paints them red and green to create Christmas centerpieces = complete with greenery. A third person uses them for Frank Lloyd Wright-style = accent lamps. A fourth one has even carved faces around the mouths.   Do you know an artist who might like the challenge of working with a different medium?   Can anyone of you adopt a few of these orphans and give them a new lease = on life? I am located in the central Ohio area. Hurry, they are to be given = the boot, literally, the first of July.   Musically,   Stan Krider    
(back) Subject: Kalamazoo Trip From: "Scott A Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:57:10 -0700 (PDT)   Thought I would share my trip for anyone who was interested. Last Thursday, I had time to run up to Kalamazoo, Michigan, to hear = several new organs in the city. Kalamazoo is very lucky to have many new = instruments within the past couple of years. The first stop was the Nichols and Simpson at St Augustine Catholic = Cathedral. This three manual organ has a huge sound (although the room is = a little dead). Three 8' diapasons on the manuals, three sets of = celestes, many solo and color reeds. Even the Walker digital stops (a = celeste, 16' Dulciana, three 32' stops in the pedal) were amazing in the = way they blended with the real pipes. We had only 40 minutes to play the = organ and the director of music was kind enough to hand me a CD to listen = to on the way home. The next stop of the new Wicks organ at First Congregational. They have = really changed their stuff!! An amazing organ in a neo-Victorian style (I = believe that it what it is called). Full length 32' Trombone and lots of = color reeds. The 8' Harmonic Flute on the great had a beautiful singing = quality, and a nice Tuba (not over powering) in the basement antiphonal = division. The final stop was the new Letourneau organ at First United Methodist. = Another 3 manual organ with many color stops. Even though the trackers = runs were quite long, reversed console and the case was about 30 feet up, = the action was quite nice to play on. Yet another harmonic flute. The = principal chorus had a great singing quality to it. Very pleasant for = Bach and other early music, but full organ provided the power for all the = great French stuff. It's nice to go to a city where the churches are extremely friendly. It's = also nice to here three different 8' Harmonic Flutes within 4 blocks of = each other. In Champaign, not one organ possess one. I love traveling around and seeing what is being installed. My next trip = is going to be to St Louis to see the Mander organ and other installations = around there area, including the massive organ at the cathedral.       Scott Montgomery 1820 Scottsdale Dr. Champaign, IL 61821 217-390-0158 www.ScottMontgomeryMusic.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on life From: "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:25:05 -0700   I don't need any random pipes, but have noticed individual pipes go for alarming prices as novelty items on ebay!!! But if any of yours don't escape alive, be sure to at least get some BTU's out of them.   I think it was George Bozeman who once said that he heated his shop for a whole winter on old melodias during the neo-baroque era. Now of course, everyone wants those. I suppose the stop now being most commonly thrown away is probably the quintadena.. but these tend to not burn so well.... too bad. But I hope the quintadena never NEVER comes back. But I suppose that's what everyone said about melodias too, huh? :) Andy     > There are times when old organ pipe are no longer needed, and they must = be > thrown away. When this happens, I attempt to recycle these pipes into a= new > life. >=20 > Can anyone of you adopt a few of these orphans and give them a new lease= on > life? I am located in the central Ohio area. Hurry, they are to be given= the > boot, literally, the first of July.  
(back) Subject: Re: Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on life From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:36:36 -0500   The lumber in a set of wooden pipes can be worth more to the right cabinet =   maker than the pipes would be worth to an organ builder. Such fine grained =   quality wood can't be had today for any money, so do ask around before you =   use them to roast marshmallows! Kip in MO     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Assorted orphaned wooden pipes looking for a new lease on = life     I don't need any random pipes, but have noticed individual pipes go for alarming prices as novelty items on ebay!!! But if any of yours don't escape alive, be sure to at least get some BTU's out of them.   I think it was George Bozeman who once said that he heated his shop for a whole winter on old melodias during the neo-baroque era. Now of course, everyone wants those. I suppose the stop now being most commonly thrown away is probably the quintadena.. but these tend to not burn so well.... too bad. But I hope the quintadena never NEVER comes back. But I suppose that's what everyone said about melodias too, huh? :) Andy     > There are times when old organ pipe are no longer needed, and they must =   > be > thrown away. When this happens, I attempt to recycle these pipes into = a > new > life. > > Can anyone of you adopt a few of these orphans and give them a new = lease > on > life? I am located in the central Ohio area. Hurry, they are to be = given > the > boot, literally, the first of July.   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>          
(back) Subject: Violinist joke From: "jlinger@snet.net" <jlinger@aya.yale.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:06:34 -0400   Q: What is bigger, a violin or a viola? A: They are the same size, the violinist has a bigger head!   Courtesy of Garrison Keillor    
(back) Subject: Re: Question on Policy? From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:01:36 -0500   Please respond on the list, for some of us are in similar situations and need to think this through. We, like many United Methodists, are getting = our new pastor in two weeks, and this question looms large - from the hints = that have been dropped so far. We are the only church in town that never uses recorded accompaniment in Sunday services, but the new pastor insists that =   we must bite the bullet and get a screen and projector..."because = everybody else has one". These last words, and their implications send chills down = my spine. The first thing that pops into my mind is my Mom, hands on hips, asking in that sarcastic grown-up way that parents of eight-year-olds do, "If everybody else jumped off the roof, does that mean that you would do = it too?" The obvious answer was implied in the asking of the question, and even at eight years old I got it right. We hope our new pastor will get it =   too. But we need to support each other in this counter-cultural struggle. = Kip Smith in Missouri     > I'm sure this has come up before, so if someone can point me to the = right > place in the archives I am happy to go there... > > > What is your church's policy regarding tape/CD accompaniment trax or > tape/CD > in place of "live" musicians? My church needs to craft a well-worded > policy to > avoid having the "sound guy" function as musician (which he is not.) > > > If you have a policy in place and would be willing to share that would = be > great! You can contact me off pipechat if you wish. > Linda Strouf > Minister of Music > Third Reformed Church > Holland, MI > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Question on Policy? From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:30:39 -0400   I have nothing nice to say about this. When this happened to me, it took a calendar year, and my 22 year tenure was over. "Chuck, do you realize that less than 1% of the American population attends symphony concerts? Chuck, what radio stations do you listen to?" "What current groups or popular hits can you name for me? "We need to reach the unchurched." The fully graded traditional music program that we'd built up (2 adult choirs, Adult and Youth Brass Choirs, Youth Choir, three Children's Choirs, five bell choirs, women's ensemble, and yes.. contemporary a cappella ensemble) was dismantled over the next three years. Four years later, when this (formerly) 2000+ member United Methodist Church couldn't pay its district apportionments and was using mission money and endowment principle to shore up its weekly cash flow, the Bishop yanked the Rev. Contemporary and put him somewhere else. But at what cost?   Chuck Peery St. Louis (NOT where this church was... I moved in June of 2004)     On Jun 14, 2005, at 11:01 PM, Paul Smith wrote:   > Please respond on the list, for some of us are in similar situations > and need to think this through. We, like many United Methodists, are > getting our new pastor in two weeks, and this question looms large - > from the hints that have been dropped so far. We are the only church > in town that never uses recorded accompaniment in Sunday services, but > the new pastor insists that we must bite the bullet and get a screen > and projector..."because everybody else has one". These last words, > and their implications send chills down my spine. The first thing that > pops into my mind is my Mom, hands on hips, asking in that sarcastic > grown-up way that parents of eight-year-olds do, "If everybody else > jumped off the roof, does that mean that you would do it too?" The > obvious answer was implied in the asking of the question, and even at > eight years old I got it right. We hope our new pastor will get it > too. But we need to support each other in this counter-cultural > struggle. > > Kip Smith in Missouri > > >> I'm sure this has come up before, so if someone can point me to the >> right >> place in the archives I am happy to go there... >> >> >> What is your church's policy regarding tape/CD accompaniment trax or >> tape/CD >> in place of "live" musicians? My church needs to craft a well-worded >> policy to >> avoid having the "sound guy" function as musician (which he is not.) >> >> >> If you have a policy in place and would be willing to share that >> would be >> great! You can contact me off pipechat if you wish. >> Linda Strouf >> Minister of Music >> Third Reformed Church >> Holland, MI >> >> >> ****************************************************************** >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >> >> > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >