PipeChat Digest #5422 - Saturday, June 25, 2005
 
Re: fun times... (xpost)
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Organists under 30, please email me off list
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
The Three Stooges Organ Movers ??
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: Organists under 30, please email me off list
  by "jonkroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Re: Organists under 30, please email me off list
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Aint' misbehaving, Part 1 of 2
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re:  Harp Stop Literature
  by <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com>
The Three Stooges  {{{OFF-TOPIC}}}
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: Harp Stop Literature
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: The Three Stooges  {{{OFF-TOPIC}}}
  by "Donald R. Resor" <h100series@pacbell.net>
RE: The Three Stooges  {{{OFF-TOPIC}}}
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Aint' misbehaving, Part 1 of 2
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: The Three Stooges  {{{OFF-TOPIC}}}
  by "David Boothe" <dmboothe@yahoo.com>
Hinners tracker parts
  by "Dennis Steckley" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: a complete service leaflet...
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
A wunnderful morning
  by <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com>
Audition: an hour
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Re: Audition: an hour
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Audition: an hour
  by "Cecil Rigby" <rigrax@earthlink.net>
Re: Audition: a whole hour ?
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: fun times... (xpost) From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:51:23 EDT   He Jonathan, Good for you..... how do we get ANYTHING out of the mighty Austin we both know so = well???????? glad you remember you have a multitude of things you do WELL!!!!! be well dale in wet southwest Florida  
(back) Subject: Re: Organists under 30, please email me off list From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:58:47 EDT   I hope the vice squad is monitoring this. I suspect Desilu has appointed herself dean of the Michael Jackson School of Organ Playing. I wouldn't = ever want to see what's up his/her sleeve or any other article of clothing.   John Lindsay Lohan  
(back) Subject: The Three Stooges Organ Movers ?? From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:12:31 -0700   =3D-> We thought we would carefully lift up the main windchest, but we heard an aweful sound as we broke a few of the 4' octave coupler mechanisms as the rods through the tracker squares caught. <-=3D   ---   Hey Moe! What's these doohickeys for?"   {{{ *KERRRRRACKKKKK!* }}}   "CURLY!!!! You knucklehead!"   *BONK!*   "OW-ow-ow-ow-ow!"   "Why you... I oughtta............. Larry --- get over here on the double and give me a hand before I murderlize ya!"   "What'd =3DI=3D do?"   "Shadddup!"   *SLAP!*   "OWWWW! That hurt!"   "Here this one'll hurt twice as much!"   **SLAP-SLAP!!!**   "Now get back to work and be careful!"       ........       =3D-> Then, we were so careful, as the wooden tracers are paper thin, to carefully tie the windchest to the wall of the rented van. As they were unloading, an errant foot wiped out for of the trackers right at the square connection. <-=3D   ---   {{{ *Ker-SMASSSH*!!! }}}   "You LAMEBRAIN! Now look what you done! You stepped all over those hemulators! Get over here!"   "Aw Moe, I'm sorry .... I can fix it ....... here, I'll just take this big hammer..."   {{{ POUND - POUNDD - POUNDDD!!! }}}   "There -- See! One more WHAP oughtta do it!! Nyuck-nyuck!!"   {{{{{{{ P-O-U-N-N-N-N-N-D-D-D!!!!!!! }}}}}}}   **Ker-PLOPPP!!* ....... Pssssssssssss - A gush of black oil squirts Moe right in the eye!   "You moron! Yeah, you really fixed it good, didn't you!"   "I'm sorry Moe, I'm sorry!"   "Remind me to kill you later!"   "I'll make a note of it! Woop-woop-woop!"       ........       =3D-> Otherwise, we had an excellent and careful crew, including two young men who were in our recent POE, and all else went quite smoothly. <-=3D   ---   "Hey Larry - look! BROADS! Nyuck-nyuck-nyuck! Hiya Dames!!"   "Hey, keep yer mind on your work and never mind the dames!"   "I'm sorry Moe ... please ... oh please .... no, not that"!   *BONK* -- *TWISSST* -- *BOINNNNNG!!!*   "Ayyyyeeeeeeeeeee!!! Ow-ow-ow-owwww!!!"   "If I didn't know better I'd say you were a real moron!"   "I beg yer pardon, I am no moron ... I am a lamebrain!"   "Right. Excuse ME!"   *SMACK!!!*     ........       =3D-> Thanks for the help, and I hope to be able to report it's restoration and playing again real soon! <-=3D   ---   CUT TO:   Dry Gulch Saloon, where Moe is cheating at Solitaire and swilling down hooch. Curly, in very bad drag, comes down the stairs singing "Voices of Spring" as Larry accompanies him on the wheezing, hissing, clattering, smoke-belching, parts-spewing organ....... Curly hits a big screeching high note and Moe's whiskey glass shatters, drenching him in hooch. As he is glowering at Curly, Larry hits a VERY SOUR chord on the organ and a big pipe teeters over and WHAPS Moe right in the noggin, knocking him out cold as he sees stars and little birdies flying all around his cross-eyed mug.   FADE TO:   END TITLES AND MUSIC       *************     (Sorry ... I just couldn't resist!!!)   "Oh, a Wise Guy ehh!"   *SMACK!*      
(back) Subject: Re: Organists under 30, please email me off list From: "jonkroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:00:53 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:33 AM Subject: Organists under 30, please email me off list     > no need to repeat... > But there is something up the sleeves of a few of us that you may be > interested in. > > TDH > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists under 30, please email me off list From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:39:06 -0500   What?   Alicia     > no need to repeat... > But there is something up the sleeves of a few of us that you may be > interested in. > > TDH > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Aint' misbehaving, Part 1 of 2 From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:27:23 -0400   Hi, Glenda.   There was discussion about this a few months ago on another list. . . And I'll step in becauce I know TWSt. fairly well. The inside of the chrch that is show in NOT Trinity. Trinity is very gothic, not at all light and airy like the one shown. The facade of the old Skinner is still there, last I checked, but the rest of it is in storage. The new M&O has two consoles, one in the front and one in the     Nick   --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Harp Stop Literature From: <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:26 -0400   Some romantic and possibly earlier Italian organs had sets of tunes bells that extended most of the compass of the keyboard. I have a CD of a couple of these organs and the effect is wonderful. The organists used the "glocken" bells as they would another stop and it gave the music a lovely lilt and "tinkle." I would think that a harp could be used similarly.   It would be fun to experiment with pieces such as the Pachelbel chorale variations with running eighth or sixteenth notes, or even on the melodic line. Just as with a zimblestern or chimes, let your ear be your guide. But, try to be very open and non-judgmental in your approach. Some of the things I've heard in wonderful recitals I was taught NOT to do because it was wrong, not stylistically correct or (gasp!) tacky!   Let us know what you find!   Or course, to be safe, there's always Sowerby's Carillon.   Scritchies and Haruffaroo-bahawow... Bruce and the Baskerbeagles   HowlingAcres http://www.baskerbeagles.com Natural products for pets & people http://www.naturalzone.biz  
(back) Subject: The Three Stooges {{{OFF-TOPIC}}} From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:12:27 -0700   It occurred to me after sending along my "Three Stooges" send-up (which I offered only in jest) that some on this list will either be too young, or too refined, to know who the Three Stooges are - or were, that is.   If you're curious, see:   http://www.threestooges.com/   When I was a kid, "The Three Stooges" was my absolute favorite Saturday morning program and pre-movie short-feature, to my mom's utter chagrin! And to a lot of other mothers' chagrin as well since the show contained a lot of broad-brushed slapstick, mock violence and "coarse" language. (In today's overly-P.C. culture, such material could never make it to the TV set, let alone the big screen.)   But it's ironic - with the passing of time, the Stooges have come to be recognized as the comic geniuses that they were -- right up with the other comedy greats such as Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, etc.   Occasionally there are "Three Stooges" marathons on TV and I have to admit, their asinine antics still make me laugh! Yeah, I guess I am fairly easily amused! ;P   Anyway ....... just some ramblings from your favorite Knuclehead!   ~ C      
(back) Subject: Re: Harp Stop Literature From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:19:49 -0400   Hi, Bruce. Thanks for the Pachel-bell suggestion. I think my folks would just eat it up. Sowerby's Carillon, which I'm playing this Sunday, got me thinking along these lines. I imagine another good candidate would be the Bach part of Gounod's Ave Maria, e.g, in the Oxford Wedding Book. What was being played on the Italian organ on your CD besides Pachelbel, by the way?   Randy R.    
(back) Subject: Re: The Three Stooges {{{OFF-TOPIC}}} From: "Donald R. Resor" <h100series@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:23:23 -0700   I will not be associated with the idea of 'too young' or 'too refined'. If you haven't had a capacitor blow up and wipe the smile off your face (or had another mishap) at least once in your life as a technician then you haven't lived long enough to tell the tale....   At 01:12 PM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >It occurred to me after sending along my "Three Stooges" send-up (which I =   >offered only in jest) that some on this list will either be too young, or =   >too refined, to know who the Three Stooges are - or were, that is.   Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://go.to/tonewheels Carillon Web Ring http://g.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dthecarillonwebri Organ Builders and Dealers Web Ring http://u.webring.com/hub?ring=3Dorganbuildersand "That was so terrible, I think you gave me cancer!" LOL      
(back) Subject: RE: The Three Stooges {{{OFF-TOPIC}}} From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:28:30 -0500   The Three Stooges ranks up there with accordion music - haven't developed a taste for it/them yet. Now if you rewrite the organ scenario with a Tom & Jerry, Far Side or South Park flavor . . .   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: RE: Aint' misbehaving, Part 1 of 2 From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:28:30 -0500   OK, I'll bite. Which church was it?   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (who did not get to see the credits at the end)   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of N. Russotto   There was discussion about this a few months ago on another list. . . And I'll step in becauce I know TWSt. fairly well. The inside of the chrch that is show in NOT Trinity. Trinity is very gothic, not at all light and airy like the one shown. The facade of the old Skinner is still there, last I checked, but the rest of it is in storage. The new M&O has two consoles, one in the front and one in the        
(back) Subject: Re: The Three Stooges {{{OFF-TOPIC}}} From: "David Boothe" <dmboothe@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:54:02 -0700 (PDT)   LOL! Thanks for that. What a great way to end a very long week at the office.   -David.     --- Charlie Lester <crl@137.com> wrote:   > > Anyway ....... just some ramblings from your favorite > Knuclehead!     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Hinners tracker parts From: "Dennis Steckley" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:16:44 -0500   I would bet that Rich Schneider of Schneider Pipe Organs could help with the Hinners tracker parts; if he doesn't have 'em in that vast warehouse upstairs, he could probably fabricate them-plus he's in Illinois. Dennis Steckley For I am possessed of a cat, surpassing in beauty, from whom I take occasion to bless Almighty God.  
(back) Subject: Re: a complete service leaflet... From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:48:05 EDT   " It was decided that the BCP was an important aspect of being Episcopalian, and = we needed to expose people to it." What a novel Idea <g> Justin Hartz      
(back) Subject: A wunnderful morning From: <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:01:45 -0400     I would like to share the very delightful beginning of my Friday. Still exuberant from our summer tuning on Thursday, I sprang from bed at six AM, herded the Baskerbeagles into their crates, and went merrily off to practice. After my usual fight with the alarm system (!!) I managed to get to the console by 6:30 and heard the most glorious sound of "Austria" on full organ sans mixtures. The reeds had held over night!!!! woooooooohooooooooooo The organ sounded magnificent, and the mixtures topped it off. Lordy, I love that organ.   I then decided to entertain myself by playing along with my CD of the Mozart Church Sonatas. It was wonderful fun and got me in the mood to do some "work!"   I got busy learning Alex Guilmant's Sonata in d-minor and James Rodgers' Sonata in f-minor, both very similar in mood. Very exciting openings, and lovely pastorale and scherzo movements. I can't wait to use them for preludes. I'm also working on some incidental pieces by Rheinberger. They're all made especially wonderful with the sound of this organ, may favorite of all sounds being all 8 and 4 principals together. (sigh, whimper)   Hope everyone has a great weekend!   Greetings from the Muttastery!   Scritchies and Haruffaroo-bahawow... Bruce and the Baskerbeagles   HowlingAcres http://www.baskerbeagles.com Natural products for pets & people http://www.naturalzone.biz  
(back) Subject: Audition: an hour From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:11:42 -0400   Hi, listers,   Suppose you were auditioning for a church job and you had to play an hour recital as part of the process. Can you tell he how you'd go about deciding what to play? An hour seems like a long time to me. I'm not only interested in the process, but perhaps in specific pieces that you feel show what needs to be shown about a player, not only for a committee of lay people, but including some good musicians as well. Are you OK if you play what you do well and enjoy and the heck with it, even if you leave yourself open to the minority committee member who might ask "What? No Messaien? You're not a REAL organist." (yeah, right! but who knows?)   The battle that's going on in my mind is: Would you play a stream of big standard rep masterworks, regardless of whether the church could/would actually use such lengthy works in its services? I mean, representation from the salient periods of organ literature, etc.? On the assumption that if you can play those, you can play anything, even if the committee is thinking "I hope he doesn't think the prelude can ever BE this long?" Or would you play a functional demonstration of a wide variety of music for liturgical uses? A wedding piece, a piece for Advent. Is Bach a requirement? Is playing a Charles Callahan hymn prelude (referenced to the hymnal number) a potential death sentence? If you have been told that piano skills are also a need, would you assume that your organ playing covers that, or would you attempt to play a nice Baldwin seven-footer which is present in the Sanctuary at the audition?   Or some combination of the above? I have to confess, I have "lucked" into every job I've gotten for the last 35 years. So, I'm looking this from the standpoint of preparing if I ever had to play such an audition myself as well as in what to look for in an organist I may be hiring in my present situation.   Thanks,   Chuck Peery St. Louis    
(back) Subject: Re: Audition: an hour From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:37:26 -0700 (PDT)   During the last interview process at St Marks Seatlle (my favorite = Cathedral Organ), there was 45 miinutes of hymn playing. They assumed that = the person had a repertoire already and were not concerned about anythign = more than the ability to servie as a CHURCH organist. An hour audition might include: 30-minutes or hymn and service playing...2-4 big processional and = recessional hymns, a communion hymn, and the music for responses/service = music (ie the Proulx Sanctus, and Isle Agnus Dei if in a Catholic Church, = or the Glory Be To God On High set to Westminster Abbey for a UMC) and ask = them to submit a tune for improvisation. an anthem accompaniment-5 minutes 25 minutes of repertoire used for various occasions--One toccata, a Bach = P/F that might be a good service piece (such as the 533,), a festive hymn = arrangement, and 2 to 3 other pieces of service music (Prelude Offertory = and another postlude type of piece)   Standard pieces that may suffice at an audition-- Bach 533, 535, 565, Wir Glauben Widor Toccata Alain Litanies Pierne Prelude Franck Prelude Fugue Variation Buxtehude C Major Prlude Fugue Chaconne Best to think of pieces that most organist of good caliber have in his/her = repertoire and probably go from there. TDH   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: Audition: an hour From: "Cecil Rigby" <rigrax@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:35:05 -0400   Like some other organists I sorta "lucked into" most of my previous positions. For my current one, though, there was an audition. But it never would've happened without the interview I had with the Pastor that lasted almost two hours, where I was asked all sorts of questions about the role = of the organist in worship, my personal motives for wanting the job, and especially, what I hoped to contribute and what I wanted to receive = through the position (not about money!).   Having done that, I was given an audition date and several of the = currently used hymnals. They did *not* give me any liturgical resources (they knew I was unfamiliar with Lutheran liturgy and had decided beforehand that they wanted to test my sight-reading/error recovery skills).   I was told to prepare seven hymns I knew already. I could choose which = ones. I could choose for what part of the service they would be used (Prelude, Offertory, Postlude) and accordingly prepare arrangements of them from my own resources. I arranged the pieces I played from easiest to hardest, = from fewer stops to more, etc, so I would have plenty of time to get the = jitters out and become familiar with the instrument at my own pace. (The organ doesn't have a standard AGO pedalboard, so I'm glad I took this approach.)   I was told to be prepared to give the committee a condensed version of my answers to the Pastor's interview questions.   After I played the selections I prepared I was given the liturgy, from = which they told me what they wanted me to play. I took the liberty of asking one of the members for tempos (he was then serving as temporary organist).   Pieces I played varied from Vierne (a couple of the 24 preludes), Mozart (middle section of Fantasia in f minor as a fun fast piece), Bach, and a couple of Brahm's Chorale preludes on those of Bach I had played (Est ist ein Rose, and Herzlich tut mich verlangen).   They like to have interludes between verses of Communion hymns. They = picked one typical hymn and asked me to improvise an interlude for it. I was also asked to play another hymn they selected and securely modulate it into another key within 8 beats. I didn't have to play any anthem-type pieces because they have a separate volunteer accompanist for the choir.   In all there were about 20 selections I played. The entire audition = process, including a question/answer period, took about an hour and a half.   Cecil Rigby rigrax@earthlink.net Eternal Shepherd Lutheran Ch. Seneca, SC      
(back) Subject: Re: Audition: a whole hour ? From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:51:51 +0100   I won't start by saying "Audition ..... What Audition ?"   Are so many folks all vying for a position that you can form a queue ?   And what does this audition purport to show ?   That you can play for SO LONG that there won't be any time for Prayers, Sermons, Genuflexions, Baptisms, etc, etc ......   Now hold-on just a 'cotton-pickin' moment ... 'cos THAT doesn't seem to be =   too bad a thing !   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman with a sideline of accompanying shows - which means 2 = to 3 hrs playing time per show, and often 2 shows per day (Matinee's included). ]   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecil Rigby" <rigrax@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: Re: Audition: an hour   [snip] - "In accordance with 'good practice'."