PipeChat Digest #5428 - Wednesday, June 29, 2005
Re: A reasonable audition vs snob-factor
  by "Mark" <mark_52@comcast.net>
Re: Taking life too seriously
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: ministry vs. job
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: newspaper reporting on "pipe" organs - org-chat Xpost
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Re: Audition? What Audition??
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Vox vs. Farfisa
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Organs and Organists online JK Fjellestad's Toccata
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
RE: Audition? What Audition??
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: speakers?
  by "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com>

(back) Subject: Re: A reasonable audition vs snob-factor From: "Mark" <mark_52@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:26:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)   Hi Harry,=0D =0D I know your feelings, all too well, as the church I serve is two blocks f= rom our local university. Of course, you truly hit the nail on the head when you said "perform up to my best standard rather than down to an adequate = one " I would certainly hope that we all had that desire within us, not beca= use of some person who is seated in the congregation, no matter the academic accolades, but rather because in every service our churches meet together= to have, hopefully THE KING is present, and He deserves our best. =0D =0D On the lighter side, and regarding the secretary, it was more directed to those who hold the responsibility in a full-time capacity. But, if you really want to confuse a member of the church who is interrupting your practice time, tell them to see your secretary for an appointment. That should keep them wondering about the place for at least 30 minutes so you can finish practicing. HAHA.=0D =0D Regards,=0D =0D Mark Gilbert=0D =0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Harry Grove=0D Date: 06/28/05 02:47:35=0D To: PipeChat=0D Subject: Re: A reasonable audition vs snob-factor=0D =0D Empathy on two points, there.=0D =0D I have a Dr. of Music in our congregation as well as a Visiting Professor= of=0D a nearby University Music Department.=0D I know that they know that I know when I've made a mistake (Sorry,=0D Pythonesque sentence).=0D =0D Still, it means that I'm reminder to perform up to my best standard rathe= r=0D than down to an adequate one.=0D =0D Also; "Where is one's secretary when one needs her ................ ?"=0D /...(stroke) him .... well, the less said about that, the better - and=0D that's a 'Max Headroom' sentence).=0D =0D A secretary - for a church organist ?=0D Good grief, the Rector doesn't have any secretary or support staff, and=0D she's the only priest for the three different churches in our Benefice.=0D =0D Harry Grove=0D [a.k.a. a musicman fortunate enough to have a secretary, P.A., financial=0D comptroller, security guard, general factotum, tea-lady, wife]=0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Mark" <mark_52@comcast.net>=0D To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>=0D Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:06 AM=0D Subject: Re: A reasonable audition vs snob-factor=0D =0D =0D [snip - as a responsible list member]=0D =0D =0D ******************************************************************=0D "Pipe Up and Be Heard!"=0D PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics=0D HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org=0D List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org=0D Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org=0D List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org>=0D List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org>=0D List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>=0D =0D =2E
(back) Subject: Re: Taking life too seriously From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:50:59 -0500   Oh? The organ at my parish church has a lot of sentimental value to me, but it doesn't have a price tag on it.   Alicia   > Hello, > > If something isn't for sale, it is not priceless; > merely without value! > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > --- Alicia Zeilenga <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> > wrote: > > > > In reference to your comment: > > > Hey! You have priceless organs in the States? > > > > > > Which are they? > > > > > > Tell us Nate! > > > > I'm not Nate, but it seems pretty clear to me that > > unless an organ is > > for sale, it's priceless. > > > > Alicia -Running off to Counterpoint >      
(back) Subject: Re: ministry vs. job From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:28:01 EDT   In a message dated 6/28/2005 10:04:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, mark_52@comcast.net writes:   And the one thing that we, as Ministering Organist/Musicians must guard against is allowing the People of God (including ourselves) to fall into = a trap of worshipping the 350K to 1.02 Million dollar organs we play = instead of Him, Who entrusts us as guardians of such instruments.       Mark Gilbert         (blue) alt. by Dale Rider  
(back) Subject: Re: newspaper reporting on "pipe" organs - org-chat Xpost From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:31:02 -0700   Well, let's chase that organ's liniage ...=20 Google ... "Hinner & Albertsen Organ" =3D 1 hit.=20 http://www.tcghs.org/photo0602.htm   A few gems: 1. "The company sold directly from the factory, at wholesale prices, to private purchasers." (I know accordions used to be sold door-to-door too.)   2. "Everything was first class, from the selection and preparation of quality hardwood, right through the installation of the instrument, which was always done by a factory representative." (and the pipes?)   3. "Today a Hinners organ is still considered a prize possession of many churches and antique collectors." (Apparently one church thinks so.)   On 6/28/05, TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >Google Alerts brought this news item about a pipe organ (being > returned to the California church for which it was built) to my email > box: > http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/2005/06/28/news/top_story/news1.t= xt >=20 > Well, yes, that looks to me exactly like a reed organ worth, at the most, > about $250. >=20 > Heavens, $750,000!!!!!!!!!! Think what we could get for that. Churn, chu= rn, > green, green, gnash, gnash, etc. >=20 > Ross   --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Audition? What Audition?? From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:49:10 -0700   It's that tell the church to "revolve around me" attitude that should make the church send the job-seeker packing, and but quick!   If the organist is really as good as he think he is, he should be able to make music on it. If the organ is completely gone (beyond restoration) then consider working with the church to draw up specs. But if it's so far gone, they probably don't have an interest in an organ (or organist) anyway.   I would say that while Brian Jones made due with the Hammond, "Mr. Uppity" would make doo-doo on it because of the spoiled brat attitude from the beginning.   On 6/28/05, RMB10@aol.com <RMB10@aol.com> wrote: > You should never have to tell a church that the only > way you'll come is if they will build you an organ to your design. >=20 > Even people like Brian Jones once played Hammonds at their churches--and = made > due with it! >=20 > Monty Bennett --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Vox vs. Farfisa From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:03:00 -0700   English electronics or Italian ... I don't know? Iffy proposition. Could you throw in a Honer Golden Melody Echo Harp for the antiophonal?   On 6/28/05, Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > Well no, but if you want we can replace that nasty old Holtkamp with a > > Vox Continental ... just for you. :-) >=20 > Good Morning, >=20 > Make it a Farfisa and you have yourself a deal! (C: >=20 > - Nate   --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Organs and Organists online JK Fjellestad's Toccata From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:13:11 +0300   I think I can safely say that Organs and organists online has moved into = its new home and is up and running ok. The new server has a different method = of encrypting membership, so we will have to re-enter all the details = manually, though as I am away from home until the middle of August it may be some = time before this is finished. If you want access to the archives you can renew =   your membership immediately or join as a new member by completing the = online application form, which will give you access to the members area.       We have added a new recording of "Toccata" for organ by Jon Kristian Fjellestad. (b.1984) made on the organ of Nidaros Cathedral to the New Additions section. The Toccata goes on an energetic journey from G minor, ending in triumphant style in C major. On its way it passes through a polychromatic key collection marked by subtle shifting harmonies. The melodic content is to be heard above a manual ostinato, underpinned by a solid pedal bass. This provides a contrasting thematic motif.   The ostinato is interrupted at bar 25 by a jubilant fanfare. After a = return to pianissimo at bar 30 there is a crescendo from bar 43 culminating in a triple forte climax in F sharp major at bar 50. A short modulatory passage =   returns to the opening key of G minor and then touching A major, passes through A minor and B major before calming down to a modified = recapitulation of the opening, now in E minor.   From bar 100 through to 147 there is a gradual diminuendo, the material being developed with good use made of the pedal theme. Bar 148 is marked cresc. molto, leading to triple forte at bar 149. From here to the end = there is a climatic re-statement of the themes previously heard in the work, culminating in a strong dialogue between A flat major and C major, with a final C major chord allowing the lowest note of the 32'pedal Bombarde to resonate around the building.   This eminently listenable to work offers an alternative as a recital item = to works such as Boellmann's Toccata. For the performer, I would estimate it = as being moderately difficult - it is a good piece to get your fingers into first class working order!   Jon Kristian Fjellestad was born in 1984 and is a student at the Conservatoire in Trondheim. He runs the newly established internet publishing site JFFJ with Jarle Fagerheim, which can be found at http://www.jffj.tk/   The score of the Toccata can be downloaded from this site, and Jon = Kristian can be heard playing it at Organs and Organists Online, http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/   John Foss   http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ http://pieria.spark.net.gr/etimes/      
(back) Subject: RE: Audition? What Audition?? From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:18:15 +1200   >It's that tell the church to "revolve around me" attitude that should make the church send the job-seeker packing, and but quick!   Oh yes.   Too often, organists think they are just "it", sort-of Poohbah.   I can think of my teacher Maxwell Fernie, one of our greatest-ever church musicians here in NZ. He was a pianist, cellist, and choirmaster as well = as organist, all to an exceptionally high level, and the best teacher I've = ever known. With that, he was a wonderful, warm, very human man, a devoted husband and father and, well, you know the sort. Max was Organist at Westminster Cathedral when George Malcolm was Choirmaster.   When Max came back to NZ in 1958 from his stint in the UK, he designed the enw 3m organ to replace the old 2m one, stood over the pipe-making in Britain, specified every detail of the construction and scaling. In NZ = here, similarly specified every detail of the rest of the instrument, including the case and console. NZ's finest-ever organ tonally when built.   Yet Max was only Choirmaster. He did not want the Organist sacked, one Phyllis Aldridge. As he said, anyone that can play the Widor Toccata followed by the Great E minor P&F of Bach, both without a mistake, can certainly play hymns on Sunday morning. It was only after Phyllis retired some five years later, that Max became Dir.Music and Organist as well, though by this stage Max's organ playing, teaching and choir-training had become quite "worldfamous" here in NZ. Max finally died, as a very old man indeed, just a few years ago.   That is the kind of person who recognises his gifts are of God, and for = the service of God and the people, who never needs to big-note or demand he be the focus of anything at all. Needless to say, Max was the inspiration not only of hordes of parishioners down many many years, but also of his innumerable pupils.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: speakers? From: "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:26:51 +0100   Hi   As a former electronics and audio engineer, I would not recommend this solution, except perhaps as a temporary expedient. If you go down this route, you will need load resistors capable of dissipating the output = power of the amplifier - i.e. several watts - these are not that easy to come = by, and hence relatively expensive I would guess - and will run hot. Also, = the resulting level will need attenuation to prevent it overloading the input = of the "new" amplifier - and will contain all the noise and distortion = produced by the "old" power amp.   A far better solution is, as someone else suggested, to tap off prior to = the built-in power amp - this should be a relatively easy job, even if there's =   no "line output" connector available. This has the added possibility of retaining the console speakers as "monitors" if you so desire.   Every Blessing   Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: speakers?     > Hi all... > > A kind of "tweaky" solution would be to turn the speaker output into a > line output by soldering a 8 ohm resistor