PipeChat Digest #5429 - Wednesday, June 29, 2005
 
RE: ministry vs. job
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: ministry vs. job
  by "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com>
Re: Taking life too seriously
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Audition?  What Audition?
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Taking life too seriously
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Priceless organs
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Taking life too seriously
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Fwd: Holzinger Organs
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: ministry vs. job
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Audition?  What Audition?
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Organists' attitudes
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: Priceless organs
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: ministry vs. job
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Clergy be attitudes
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Clergy be attitudes
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
RE: ministry vs. job
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Clergy be attitudes
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Clergy be attitudes
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: ministry vs. job
  by "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com>
demand a new/rebuilt organ
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: ministry vs. job From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:52:14 -0500   I have never seen this phenomenon, not even in churches with the nicest organs. And I don't think playing good music which integrates with the service and is thought-provoking, and playing it well, is worshipping the organ; rather it is a return on the church's investment in an instrument to enhance worship.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com   In a message dated 6/28/2005 10:04:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, mark_52@comcast.net writes:   And the one thing that we, as Ministering Organist/Musicians must guard against is allowing the People of God (including ourselves) to fall into a trap of worshipping the 350K to 1.02 Million dollar organs we play instead of Him, Who entrusts us as guardians of such instruments.          
(back) Subject: Re: ministry vs. job From: "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:04:34 +0100   Hi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: RE: ministry vs. job     >I have never seen this phenomenon, not even in churches with the nicest > organs. <SNIP> > Glenda Sutton   But I have come across organists who "worship" the organ - or for whom the =   music becomes more important than anything else in the service.   Every Blessing   Tony    
(back) Subject: Re: Taking life too seriously From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:05:18 -0400   >>Hey! You have priceless organs in the States?<<   All of them!!! (C: Well, almost all of them...   - Nate    
(back) Subject: Re: Audition? What Audition? From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:18:26 -0400   > > This is more common than you think. I know of several people who have > gone > into job interviews and stipulated that they would only take the job > if they > got new instruments built to their specifications.   That is absolutely fascinating to me... There are so many facets to consider in the care, restoration, and even replacement of an organ, that I find it to be just a little rude to instantly insert one's self into the mix, without having played the organ (let alone for a year or two), and make that sort of request. The current organ could be a memorial organ, it could have been releathered ten years ago, paid for with many bake sales (teehee), the church members might be in love with it, etc... I kind of figured that when most Churches want to hire a new organist, they want to hire them to play their organ, not design a new one! (Unless of course it's a digital, then it's fair game >;-) )   A famous quote from a certain rector when presented with a request to re-build the organ:   "You're no different than the sexton: he has his lawnmower, and you have your organ."     - Nate    
(back) Subject: Re: Taking life too seriously From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:20:34 -0400     On Jun 28, 2005, at 11:26 PM, PipeChat wrote:   > If something isn't for sale, it is not priceless; > merely without value!   Does that mean St. Barts, Armley is free to a good owner?   - Nate    
(back) Subject: Priceless organs From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:57:22 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Responding to Nathan Smith's category of "priceless organs," I wonder what is actually meant by that term.   If one goes to a great art gallery, I think we would all agree that certain master-works are "priceless," even though they sometimes swap hands at particular valuations in the auction houses. To suggest that something is "priceless, surely assumes that there is something more than just monetary value?   The word "priceless" also suggests that there is some outstanding quality or significance about a particular object, which lifts it out of the category of being everyday, but it has to be something more than mere rarity or uniqueness.   Now I think that there would be general agreement that certain organs are indeed "priceless," even though they are probably insured for particular sums of money.   Take for example the great Silbermann organs in Germany, or the Schnitgers, or the Riepp at Otterbouren....all true masterworks. Think of the wonderful instruments lost in Europe during WW2, and we still bemoan their loss to-day.   So assuming that for something to be "priceless," it doesn't necessarily have to be old, unique or merely rare, but rather, something so exceptional that it would be missed greatly and perhaps talked about for generations to come if fire swept through the building in which it stood.   On that basis, any country can qualify, and any era also.   In the UK, do we have anything really priceless?   I would suggest that the Harrison organ of St.Mary-Redcliffe, Bristol, falls into the category, for it is the most perfect example of a particular organ-builder's art and craft, which somehow embraces the whole ethos of romanticism and the high-point of Anglican church-music.   Then there are the almost unique Schulze organs at Doncaster and Armley, which are head and shoulders above the rest tonally, from that particular era.   I think I would include the organ of St.Paul's Cathedral, London, which although enlarged a great deal, still has that unmistakable Father Willis quality. On the same basis, I would include the organ of Salisbury Cathedral.   I would certainly include the superlative Lewis at Southwark Cathedral.   But I would have to include the Walker (rebuilt by David Wood) organ of Blackburn Cathedral, dating from 1964 (?), which is just so good tonally as to be not only exceptional, but "priceless" also.   Of the "olde English" instruments, I don't think the loss of any particular one of them would be like losing a limb, but they would be missed, certainly.   So, to add a touch of seriousness to what was a provocative question in the first instance, I would ask which instruments list-members would regard as "priceless."   In other words, which instruments could you not live without?   Which instruments, if lost, would be the subject of endless memories?   Which instruments are so good, that they stand apart from the crowd?   Which instruments are truly national treasures?   America must have a few....indeed, I KNOW that America has quite a few, and the same must go for other countries.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   PS: I have a special place in my heart for a "priceless" Victorian organ, which is so bad as to defy musical description. It is an object lesson in how NOT to build a pipe organ.....but I love it, because it makes me laugh. (It is also wonderfully ugly to the eye, which just puts the icing on the mouldy cake)     --- Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> wrote:   > >>Hey! You have priceless organs in the States?<< > > All of them!!! (C: Well, almost all of them... > > - Nate > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >       ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Taking life too seriously From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:58:22 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   But it was free to the current owner!!   Regards,   Colin MItchell UK   --- Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> wrote:   > > On Jun 28, 2005, at 11:26 PM, PipeChat wrote: > > > If something isn't for sale, it is not priceless; > > merely without value! > > Does that mean St. Barts, Armley is free to a > good owner? > > - Nate > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >       ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Fwd: Holzinger Organs From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:06:21 -0500   The following was received at the Administration address. I am forwarding it since maybe someone out in California might be able to give this person some more information. Please respond to the address below as this person is not on the list. But if you think that your reply might be of interest to everyone please copy it to the list.   I have already checked the Fox Guide of North American Organbuilders and have sent him the relevant information for it.   Thanks   David     >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:19:31 -0700 (PDT) >From: Holzinger Scott <holzingers@yahoo.com> >Subject: Holzinger Organs >To: admin@pipechat.org >Sender: <admin@pipechat.org> >X-LR-SENT-TO: david@blackiris.com > >Hello, > My name is Scott Holzinger and I am the grandson >of Valentine Holzinger. He was a pipe organ builder in >the 50s and 60s. I would love to find some info on him >and his organs and company. Just about every thing has >either been lost or accidently destroyed. I would also >love any information about how or where I may possible >purchase one of his organs. He also built organs under >the name of California Organs. Any information that >you may have would be extremely helpful. >Thanks in advance for you time and consideration. > >Kindest regards, > >Scott Holzinger     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: ministry vs. job From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:29:27 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Here we go with the old chesnut!   When is a church organist a bad organist?   A: When he doesn't read the Bible   I could turn the tables of course, and ask when is a clergyman a bad clergyman?   A: (IMHO) When he/she reads the Bible but can't be bothered to read a good newspaper or listen to good music.   Why do the clergy always have to spoil the party by denying humanity?   Why do they always remind us that "there is a higher state of grace?"   I could rant all day, but somehow, my Great Aunt (now deceased) was something of a heroin. She was brought up in a strict Salvation Army household....bonnets on a nail on the door....tambourines at the ready. The home was full of little black books, "the shields to fend off the devil.".   My Great Aunt was, to all intents and purposes, a devout and loyal member of the Sally Army....teetotal, law-abiding, humble and kindly....but she had a SIDELINE!!   I cringe to think what her mother would have thought, or what the Army members would have said had they known, but my Great Aunt secretly played the piano.   She would pick up her little black book, and claim that she was going to prayers.   In actual fact, she would turn left instead of right, and skip along to the venue where she played the piano....a real downtown dive of a Public House!! (But the Lord forbade her from ever drinking a drop!)   My grandfather always liked a drink or two, but as the Methodist Superindendent Sunday School master, this didn't go down well.   "Sam," bellowed the Minister, "You must decide whether God or the Devil's embrocation is more important to you, and then make a decision as to your future!"   My grandfather though about this for a little while in silence, then got up, replaced his cap and simply said, "Goodbye."   He never went into a chapel or church again; save for the odd wedding or funeral, but he liked his nights at the pub.   The interesting thing is, they were such loveable and kindly people, who would have helped anyone.   IMHO, we can spend our time worshipping the false God of Biblical verses and the delights of "worship", or we can gaze starry eyed at the organ case, but they are often the excuse for not actually washing feet.     Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK - a happy sinner     --- "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com> wrote:   > Hi > > But I have come across organists who "worship" the > organ - or for whom the > music becomes more important than anything else in > the service. >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Audition? What Audition? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:04:44 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Audition? What Audition?     > A famous quote from a certain rector when presented with a request to > re-build the organ: > > "You're no different than the sexton: he has his lawnmower, and you > have your organ."   Another famous quote from around 1830 was Canon Sidney Smith's comment to the organist of St. Paul's Cathedral, Thomas Attwood:   "You organists are all the same; you're like overworked cab horses -- = always looking for another stop!"   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Organists' attitudes From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:14:26 EDT   >It's that tell the church to "revolve around me" attitude that should >make the church send the job-seeker packing, and but quick! > >If the organist is really as good as he think he is, he should be able >to make music on it. If the organ is completely gone (beyond >restoration) then consider working with the church to draw up specs. >But if it's so far gone, they probably don't have an interest in an >organ (or organist) anyway.     I've said it before and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face...organists =   (church musicians in general) have done the job of making people dislike = us because of the attitude that so many of us have. Now I know that not all of us have the "diva" attitude, but it is quite prevalent in the music departments of churches. Church is =   not a concert hall--it's a place for service, not for performance.   MOST churches know if their organs need to be worked on or not. Some churches will make it clear that they are going to be getting a new organ = and others aren't going to do anything--those are the churches who are most likely = not going to be looking for a qualified organist. Those are probably the = churches that aren't going to be paying decent salaries. Why would a "diva" want to = talk to a church like that anyway?   I know of a church locally that because of a major political split went = from about 500 members to about 200 members on the roll. What is left at the church is a bunch of hardworking, music loving people with a music = director and a pastor who both want to see a pipe organ in there someday. The church has = a little bit of money--not the greatest, but not bad. If a diva came in and = saw their little digital organ, they'd be turned off, BUT if an organist came = in who was willing to sit back and wait, SERVE the congregation with some = humility, their patience would pay off. Going in there with a " 'tude" would only = make the church mad--they know they are recovering from a major loss, but they were glad to see a lot of those people leave, but they know the faithful = remnant can rebuild the church back into a stronger church than it was before. = This just wouldn't be a place to come in and tell them that they needed to get = a new organ or else...   I'm sure that this isn't the only kind of church around in this type of situation, either. We are called to be ministers, not performers, and we have to be servants putting aside our attitudes sometimes. Being humble can get us a lot = further in church work, but it doesn't mean that we get walked on, either. It's all about how you work with people, and in church--that's the important thing, = BUT so many musicians just don't get it.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: RE: Priceless organs From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:48:41 +1200   >Responding to Nathan Smith's category of "priceless organs," I wonder = what is actually meant by that term. [snip]To suggest thatsomething is "priceless, surely assumes that there is something more than just monetary value?   That's the way I'd use the word. Valueless means it is utterly hopeless = from every respect. Priceless means the kind of thing you can't buy whatever = the cash available. With that word, away from organs for a moment, you'd have = to include a great sunset, the smile on the face of a loved one, that kind of thing. With physical things, there'd be, in your country, Iona (all of it, not just the abbey church), Lindisfarne (again, all of it and not just the Priory ruins), the wooden Saxon church at Greensted-juxta-Ongar, Princes Street in Edinburgh and the old Nor' Loch across the way (now railways and gardens), villages like Furneux Pelham and Cloddock. Oh, I could go on = with things and places that just make me feel like bursting inside (in a good way).   >Which instruments are truly national treasures?   Well, most certainly the ones you listed, for a start. And, having heard = it and played it with you, I'd want to include the wee Laycock & Bannister at your church - it is quite remarkably good tonally to my ears, with an = action to match. No, I'm not being smart, but quite serious on that.   Ross      
(back) Subject: RE: ministry vs. job From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:51:45 +1200   >I could rant all day, but somehow, my Great Aunt (now deceased) was something of a heroin.   Oh Colin, really? Did she start with this hard stuff, or did she begin = with pot and work up to the harder stuff gradually? :-)   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Clergy be attitudes From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:57:19 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   How many clergy think the church revolves around them Monty?   People just love celebrity cults. You only have to watch those "entertainers" on American religious TV programming....they laugh, they joke, but above all they cry.   With all this heartfelt emotion, I'm often surprised that such beautiful people seem to be universally obese and wonderfully dressed, in the midst of a world so blighted by poverty and famine.   I guess it's just me being cynical.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   PS: Some people go to church just to get warm       --- RMB10@aol.com wrote:   > >It's that tell the church to "revolve around me" > attitude that should > >make the church send the job-seeker packing, and > but quick!     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Clergy be attitudes From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:02:56 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Clergy be attitudes     > PS: Some people go to church just to get warm   Not in Oxford they don't. I remember some Sundays in the winter back in = the 1970's at St. Philip & St. James in Oxford when it was 45=B0F in church.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: RE: ministry vs. job From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:02:08 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,     Hee hee hee! That was wonderful, Ross.   I just love typos that say the wrong thing completely!   My Great Aunt certainly gave us an injection of paradox and humour.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote:   > >I could rant all day, but somehow, my Great Aunt > (now > deceased) was something of a heroin. > > Oh Colin, really? Did she start with this hard > stuff, or did she begin with > pot and work up to the harder stuff gradually? :-)     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Clergy be attitudes From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:18:06 -0400   > >I guess it's just me being cynical. > >Regards, > >Colin Mitchell UK > >PS: Some people go to church just to get warm > >Or for the free cookies and coffee...:     John V   Who used to be a sailor in Norfolk VA, got drunk on Saturday nites and visit the Salvation Army on Sunday morning to get free coffee and donuts while sitting through their church service, and recalls the organist played a fine Piano, and Hammond organ combination!  
(back) Subject: Re: Clergy be attitudes From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:25:24 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Believe me John....that's warm....even for summer!   I've been in one church where the icicles were INSIDE the building, and even the gargoyles had thawed without.   In fact, at one church where I was organist, I would shuffle in wearing a thick winter coat, cut-off-at-the-fingertip gloves, thermal underwear, several pairs of socks and a St.Bernard dog ("borrowed" from a Swiss rescue organisation whilst out truffle hunting in the alpine meadows) which I tied to the bottom CC of the Pedal Bourdon; just in case I needed brandy during the sermon. (I found that it can be very warming, when placed in a chalice and set alight)   The great thing about this long winter-coat was the fact that it was black, and by wearing an outsize surplice above it, it was possible to retain body-heat whilst remaining remarkably decorous.   The only handicap was in the conducting of the psalms, when Jehova, the Israelites and myself would slowly disappear under a cloud of steam as a result of the exertion.....some claimed it to be a miracle as great as the burning bush and were converted instantly.   Of course, the organ voluntaries suffered, and one had to be wary of spider's webs building up between the fingers during the astonishingly lengthy Bach Preludes and Fugues, which commenced at midday or thereabouts, and usually ended long after closing time.   The final voluntary concluded with a final chord of enormous duration, (naked flesh had become attached to the keys) the expression on the face of the St.Bernard said it all!   We don't get winters like that anymore.......thank God for global warming!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> wrote:   > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Mitchell"> > > > PS: Some people go to church just to get warm > > Not in Oxford they don't. I remember some Sundays > in the winter back in the > 1970's at St. Philip & St. James in Oxford when it > was 45=B0F in church.     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: ministry vs. job From: "Rev. Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:31:09 +0100   Hi   If I may make some comments - as a member of the clergy (UK Baptist Minister):- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: Re: ministry vs. job     > Hello, > > Here we go with the old chesnut! > > When is a church organist a bad organist? > > A: When he doesn't read the Bible   I thoroughly agree!!! > > I could turn the tables of course, and ask when is a > clergyman a bad clergyman? > > A: (IMHO) When he/she reads the Bible but can't be > bothered to read a good newspaper or listen to good > music.   Again, in principal I agree - altho0ugh I must admit that I don't read a newspaper, I do make a point of hearing radio/watching TV news.   > > Why do the clergy always have to spoil the party by > denying humanity?   How? When? I hope I don't! > > Why do they always remind us that "there is a higher > state of grace?" > Because there is! We all "fall short of the glory of God" -we all fail = to follow Jesus' footsteps - but repentance & forgiveness are always = available.   > I could rant all day, but somehow, my Great Aunt (now > deceased) was something of a heroin. <SNIP>> She would pick up her = little > black book, and claim > that she was going to prayers. > > In actual fact, she would turn left instead of right, > and skip along to the venue where she played the > piano....a real downtown dive of a Public House!! > (But the Lord forbade her from ever drinking a drop!)   Good for her - Christians need to be involved in society! Jesus is portrayed in the gospels as associating with "tax collectors" (fraudsters = in the main in those days), prostitutes, and other "undesirables" ! > <SNIP>> > IMHO, we can spend our time worshipping the false God > of Biblical verses and the delights of "worship", or > we can gaze starry eyed at the organ case, but they > are often the excuse for not actually washing feet.   Here here! > > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK - a happy sinner > Every Blessing   Tony    
(back) Subject: demand a new/rebuilt organ From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:22:26 -0700   When I was at Christ Church, Los Altos, CA, I was but one of several organists who pointed out that the organ (a 13 rank Wicks with a weird design) was not adequate and the acoustics are worse.   While I was there we revoiced the entire organ to good effect.   My successor there was a well-known NYC organist and recording artist who was interested in the job, but explained that unless they rebuilt the = organ, he could not come there.   Well, they now have a large new console and the organ has grown to 30+ ranks, and this summer the carpet is coming out.   In this case, I can honestly say that the *demand* was well thought out, = and to the churches benefit, and they are very happy. I don't think it is a = case of organ worship by either party!   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California