PipeChat Digest #5197 - Sunday, March 6, 2005
 
information sought
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Re: information sought
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Children's Hymns
  by "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com>
Re: Widor oldie but goodie
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Widor oldie but goodie
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
RE: Children's music
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Re: Widor oldie but goodie
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: St Aloysius' Church Glasgow
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: information sought
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
JFFJ: New internet music publisher
  by "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk>
Organs and Organists Online in Sydney
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Lent IV (Laetare Sunday) at St. John's
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: WWBD
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
fun website
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: information sought From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 02:49:23 -0800   Many of you may have read my post about obtaining an old Rodgers organ as = a practice machine.   The operating system is digital/computer, but the tonal resources are analog. The thing is totally self contained and very heavy. Not wanting = to mess up my living room, we have decided to loose a sofa in the computer = room and put it in there. To do so will involve turning the organ on its side and gingerly working it through the door and into the room.   Do any of you know of a reason this can't be done? The organ is a Rodgers Alexandria 810.   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California          
(back) Subject: Re: information sought From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:16:35 -0500   On 3/5/05 5:49 AM, "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> wrote:   > Do any of you know of a reason this can't be done?   The brandy snifter half full of currency on top of the beast? Remove it before you tip the instrument.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Re: Children's Hymns From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 09:15:02 -0500   Dear Chatters,   Thanks to all of you who contributed to the discussion with suggestions = and interesting tangents. Hubby has plenty of ideas now. For what it's worth, = he ran into the youth minister yesterday and asked her what hymns the kids = know and like. She said "I don't think they really know any hymns." I'll leave = it to you to interpret that. (Maybe it would be a good idea to go back to the =   old-fashioned Sunday morning schedule of Sunday School before church, not during it.)   Last evening I was listening to a CD I recently ordered, the National Lutheran Choir's "Soul" selections   http://www.nlca.com/recordings/agora.cgi?cart_id=3D7030631.17267*C-0Gr6&xm= =3Don&product=3DHeritage   highly recommended, by the way, and lo and behold, there was a lovely, = lush setting of Jesus Loves Me. I think the notion is a good one of recycling some of these "Sunday School songs" many of us heard only in the church basement accompanied by a jangly old upright when we were kids years ago.   Emily A.    
(back) Subject: Re: Widor oldie but goodie From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:22:30 -0500   On 3/4/05 9:54 PM, "Jan & Leland Smith" <lfs@naxs.com> wrote:   > went down a crack into the land of unknown..........I can't retrieve = it!)   Sears tools departments have things in three sizes, maybe 14, 18, 22 = inches long, like huge tweezers. Might reach down into the crack? Plus some = luck?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Widor oldie but goodie From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:41:57 -0000     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Widor oldie but goodie   I play from the Hamelle & Cie. edition (24, Boulevard Malhesherbes, PARIS 8ieme.)   I do appreciate that when you get 'used to' a particular edition, i.e. = where the turns come, the physical size of the bars, etc. you "see" in the = mind's eye how the music lies and how you progress through the music from this 'phantom' copy.   I, too, have two. Copies of the Widor, that is. I 'lost' mine some years ago, so I went out and bought another - same edition. And then, you guessed it, I found my 'original',   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman with two Widor's 5th's .... "There's POSH !"]    
(back) Subject: RE: Children's music From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:09:57 -0800   WOW! What a novel idea. And it works, too~     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Randy Terry   Music Minister   The Episcopal Church of St. Peter   Redwood City, California   _____   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Justinhartz@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:46 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Children's music       In other words, give 'em what they want now and then, and everyone will think you are the world's greatest organist/choirmaster!     Justin    
(back) Subject: Re: Widor oldie but goodie From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 10:44:37 -0500   On 3/4/05 9:54 PM, "Jan & Leland Smith" <lfs@naxs.com> wrote:   > I lost my old war-horse Widor toccata (it actually fell of the organ benc= h and > went down a crack into the land of unknown..........I can't retrieve it!)   Just a possibility: It fell THROUGH the floor, between the joists, and reposes quietly on the upper surface of a hung ceiling in the basement. Go to the basement with a flashlight, up a stepladder, lift the ceiling panel, tip it, and get dirt AND Widor in your face. (If there=B9s a plaster ceiling ABOVE the hung ceiling, just break through it, and see Widor THERE.)   Alan  
(back) Subject: RE: St Aloysius' Church Glasgow From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:47:05 -0000   Not sure if this is the only St Aloysius' Church in the city, but Google turned up the link below.   http://www.geocities.com/piped_in/KIRK2P1.html   Andrew Caskie, Scotland   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Dominic Scullion Sent: 03 March 2005 18:06 To: 'PipeChat'; PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu Subject: St Aloysius' Church Glasgow   Has anyone played the organ in St Aloysius' Church in Glasgow, Scotland?  
(back) Subject: Re: information sought From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:53:41 -0800   Congratulations on acquiring a nice instrument! (I say that because I have =   an 810 at home, and I mostly smile as I practice -- it has some pretty = good sounds on it, the moreso after it was worked on by one of the great = Rodgers wizards.) The 35" depth of the beast rules out a lot of locations for it = -- it was a press fit coming through our back door (after removal of door moldings), and there was just no choice as to where it would go, since it won't go through any of the interior doors in the house.   Michael     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:49 AM Subject: information sought     > Many of you may have read my post about obtaining an old Rodgers organ = as > a > practice machine. > > The operating system is digital/computer, but the tonal resources are > analog. The thing is totally self contained and very heavy. Not = wanting > to > mess up my living room, we have decided to loose a sofa in the computer > room > and put it in there. To do so will involve turning the organ on its = side > and gingerly working it through the door and into the room. > > Do any of you know of a reason this can't be done? The organ is a = Rodgers > Alexandria 810. > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Randy Terry > Music Minister > The Episcopal Church of St. Peter > Redwood City, California > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: JFFJ: New internet music publisher From: "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:53:01 +0100   Dear Lists,   I'm pleased to announce that I and my good friend Jon Kristian Fjellestad are launching a new internet music publishing service, JFFJ. JFFJ can be reached by http://www.jffj.tk or http://jffj.moo.no.   All music published at JFFJ is licenced under Creative Commons Licences, which protect the composer's authorship while giving almost complete freedom to the public to use the music as it pleases (including performing, modifying, rewriting, and for heating purposes). This is especially useful for my own hymn preludes and intonations -- feel free to use just a few bars or themes as working material if you find the rest to be rubbish! I only hope you won't find all of it rubbishish <g>.   The four PDFs issued so far are: Jarle Fagerheim: Herre Gud, ditt dyre navn og =E6re (brief suite on a Norwegian folk = tune) Hymn preludes 2002-2004 Hymn intonations 2004 Jon Kristian Fjellestad: Toccata for organ, opus 1   Note that Jon Kristian's Toccata has been slighly reworked from what he has recorded for Organs and Organists Online, including a re-written coda. Having spent the past week typesetting it, I assure you it's a terrific piece, not terribly difficult to play either. Anybody need a postlude for Sunday <grin>?   So, do take a look! Visit http://www.jffj.tk, download our music, and send your comments to jffj@epost.no. Surely there's lots of things to be improved, but I think we're well underway!   -- Beste helsing / Best wishes / Beste Gr=FC=DFe / Bestu kvedjur   Jarle Fagerheim   jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk www: http://jarle.moo.no  
(back) Subject: Organs and Organists Online in Sydney From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 01:06:05 +0200   It goves me great pleasure to present Michael Dudman playing two = interesting late 19th century organs in Sydney. I first met Michael in Grimsby where he was Organist and Master of the Choristers at St James Parish Church, one of only two Churches outside the =   Cathedrals to have a Choir School and a full time boys' choir. We spent = many enjoyable Prior to this appointment Michael had been assistant organist = at Ely Cathedral. In due course he returned to Australia, where he became organist at Newcastle Cathedral, Professor of Organ at the Conservatorium = in Newcastle and soon afterwards was appointed Organist to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. His recital schedule was quickly filled - including all the major Australian venues, such as Sydney Opera House, the =   Town Hall in Sydney and he also toured the United States, recording for = the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. The organs he can be heard playing on =   this occasion are those in Christ Church Saint Laurence, Sydney - here Michael plays the Fugue in B minor by J S Bach on the III/26 1891 Hill = organ which can be seen at http://www.ccsl.org.au/ourchurch/organ.html The second organ he can be heard playing is the 1890 II/13 French Puget which can be seen at http://www.mporgues.com/sydney.html Michael Dudman plays the Fanfare by Jacques Nicolas Lemmens. The organ is sited in the West Gallery of an acoustically sympathetic room and sounds considerably bigger than would be expected from its size. Michael died some 11 years ago and is greatly missed by his many friends. These performances are offered as a tribute to his memory, adding to the existing performance of the First movement of the Vth Symphony by Widor, which is already on the site.   John Foss http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/      
(back) Subject: Lent IV (Laetare Sunday) at St. John's From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:08:46 EST   Solemn High Mass 10:30 AM   Prelude: "Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir" , BWV 1099 (Bach) Hymns: "Lord Jesus, Sun of Righteousness" (Cornhill) " My shepherd will supply my need" (Resignation) " Bread of Heaven" (Jesu, Jesu, du mein Hirt) Ordinary of the Mass: "Missa Penitentialis" (Harris, SATB with cantor and congregation, a capella; with Credo from Missa de Angelis--plainchant, = Credo II) Ps. 23: Plainchant, mode IV Tract: Plainchant, mode VIII Anthem at the Offertory: "An heart thats broken and contrite" (John = Dowland, ed. W. Harris) No Communion Motet or Postlude.   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston  
(back) Subject: Re: WWBD From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:04:31 EST   In re the reply of PEMMONS:   I was not trying to imply that Bach was universally famous, ie, the local blacksmith on the outskirts of Barcelona or the average non-conformist = puritan on the streets of Boston was whistleing the thema from the "Musical = Offering". However, precisely because he remained well-known among professional = musicians, courtier amateurs and others, especially keyboard players and composers, = I don't think we can say that he fell into total obscurity, only to be "rediscovered" about 100 years after his death.   I think the "old-fashoinedness" of his compositions in the eyes of comtemporaries, well documented, should be seen through the lens of = particularly his choral works, for the reasons cited in Boyd. And, given the progressive, = Galant style of his more famous sons' keyboard works, I can see organists finding = his work a bit passe. Yet, I'm fairly certain that his keyboard works did not disappear completely from the repertoire between 1750 and the day = Mendelssohn took over the preparation and performance of the St. Matthew Passion from his teacher in 1829, launching the "Bach Renaissance".   I would certainly concede that Bach did not enjoy the universal fame in = his day as did, say, Handel. I would assert that this is partly due to the = fact that Bach was not a composer of opera.   So, on the whole, I think we're in agreement; I only wanted to suggest an alternate theory to the assertion made by another member of the list which =   intimated that Bach was "rescued" from obscurity by Mendelssohn, full = stop.   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston                
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