PipeChat Digest #5205 - Wednesday, March 9, 2005
 
Halloween recitals?
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Re: Danny Boy, etc.
  by "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: Danny Boy bites me in the...
  by "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net>
RE: Danny Boy, etc.
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Austin
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: MY NEW HAUS-ORGEL (x-post, non-Theatre Organ)
  by "Don McClure" <McClure@cc.admin.unt.edu>
Next Week
  by "LBoekeloo" <lboekeloo@triton.net>
Re: Next Week
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Next Week
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Danny Boy, etc. etc, etc
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Austin
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
RE: Halloween recitals?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Organ Parts Suppliers...
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Oops, Sorry
  by "LBoekeloo" <lboekeloo@triton.net>
Re: Austin
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Italics & odd phenomena
  by <gmpender@integrity.com>
Re: Next Week
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
What about Kimberlee?
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Closing of Austin
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Lent V at St. John's
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Austin Organs
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Italics & odd phenomena
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: BWV 577
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Re: Austin Organs
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net>
BAD LINK     Re: Closing of Austin
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Halloween recitals? From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 06:52:23 -0500   Having an unforeseen drop-out in our Concert Series line-up for October, I thought of having a Halloween organ recital. I know some of you have done this, and some AGO chapters have done it... can you fill me in on how you organized it? (Multiple players? repertoire? cute titles? kid-friendly? extraneous touches (costumes, snacks)?)   Many thanks, Chuck Peery St. Louis    
(back) Subject: Re: Danny Boy, etc. From: "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:13:57 +0800   The Australian Hymn Book II (Together in Song) has many hymn tunes from = many secular cultures including some already mentioned (Waly, waly, The Ash Grove, The Dambusters' March, and many from Asian and Pacific Island cultures). BE ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: RE: Danny Boy, etc.     > >>Without offense intended, it seems that > Irish songs are accepted, yet other cultures are not. > > Not so. We sing tunes from many other cultures set to non-Christian = music > from a number of countries: Fiji, Japan, Korea, England, Uganda, Egypt, > Scotland, Wales, India, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Argentina, South Africa, > Tanzania - just for starters off the top of my head. I value these = highly, > for my part. > > Ross > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 8/03/2005 > >       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 8/03/2005    
(back) Subject: Re: Danny Boy bites me in the... From: "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:32:08 -0500   On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:22:19PM +0800, Jan Nijhuis wrote: > > And plying the role of the devil.... > > Londonderry is in the far north of Ireland; the surname Sutton would > be both English and Southern (As opposed to Eaton, Norton and Weston). > So, perhaps it wasn't the music after all... ;-) >   If you wanna get beat up in a bar called "The Parting Glass", "The Quiet Man" or something similar, refer to the city of Derry by the name the occupiers gave it, Londonderry.   For the ultimate in Irish smackdown, go into The Quiet Man wearing orange and playing a flute on July 20th. For maximum effect, have a frend playing a lamkin.   See you on the Darwin Awards! ;-)    
(back) Subject: RE: Danny Boy, etc. From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:31:18 +1300   >The Australian Hymn Book II (Together in Song)   Bob, I don't know this book. Is it similar to "With One Voice", which has = proved mighty popular over here?   Ross    
(back) Subject: Austin From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:45:11 EST   List, It seems to me that Desiree has merely provided us with a personal homily = to demonstrate that she understands the background cause(s) of Austin's = demise fully. "Your own kind will do you wrong and work to get you down," whether it be = in the pipe organ building field or whatever. I understood her comments = thusly. Sadly, me thinks Monty's comment provided the perfect example to Desiree's = point (fellow list members will "do you wrong"), and contributed nothing = to the Austin thread in the process. Now, back to the lamentations for the passing of a GREAT pipe organ manufacturer! Stan Krider In a message dated 3/8/2005 10:58:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Monty = Bennett writes:       Desiree' wrote:   >Rumors... >Some of us on the list have been on the receptive end of rumors. What enjoyment do >people get out of spreading rumors about others in this = field? One has no idea. It's almost >like it is a turn-on for them...as though they will =   gain something out of alienating potential >audiences, purchasers, and = fans of particular instruments, performers, builders, teachers, >and authorities = in the field.   >My mother told me as a child, and still does, a little blurb: Your own = kind will do you wrong >and work to get you down.   >You take that and interpret it how you want to.   You always manage to turn a post around to yourself, Desiree'. The post = was about Austin, let's keep things on track. I don't know what kinds of = rumors were spread about you, nor do I care. You have told us things about your =   past and others have blurted out truths about your past, so I don't know how those became rumors. Anyway, let's keep the focus on Austin here.              
(back) Subject: Re: MY NEW HAUS-ORGEL (x-post, non-Theatre Organ) From: "Don McClure" <McClure@cc.admin.unt.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:34:09 -0600       Don W. McClure, PE Computing and Information Technology Center 940-565-3287 dwmac@unt.edu   and   Organist/Choirmaster, Church of St Andrew (Episcopal) Farmers Branch, TX   >>> ScottFop@aol.com 3/8/2005 5:55 PM >>> Hello all!   Just wanted to share the happy news that my new house organ is in and=20 playing! It arrived today and was installed and tuned. It is such a cool = little=20 organ, and will be perfect for learning notes and keeping my fingers going = when=20 away from church. =20   The little organ was built by 1959 by Hermann Schlicker of Buffalo, New = York=20 and was originally installed in a practice studio in the Music School at = Notre=20 Dame University in South Bend, Indiana. The stoplist is as follows:   MANUAL I: Principal 8, Gedeckt 8, Fugara 4, Gedeckt 2 MANUAL II: Gedeckt 8, Gedeckt 4, Principal 2 PEDAL: Subbass 16, Gedeckt 8, Choral Bass 4   It is very similar to a little Wicks Portative that I had several years = ago,=20 and with almost an identical stoplist except that the Wicks had 8', 4', = 1-1/3'=20 on the top manual. I am really impressed with the gentle, singing quality = of=20 these pipes. I hadn't played many Schlicker organs, but have always = known=20 that their pipework was very high quality and had a very lyrical quality. = I=20 would love to welcome visitors to hear and play the little organ anytime. = =20   My music room is really coming along beautifully now with today's addition = of=20 the organ, the Straube player piano (Chicago, circa 1925) and my Victor=20 VV-XVI Victrola (circa 1917). All I need to do is get my Hardman-Peck = grand piano=20 here from storage in Pittsburgh and the music room will be complete. But = it's=20 nice to be able to make music whenever I want to and without bothering=20 anybody!   I am very proud of the little organ and want folks to see, hear and try = it=20 out. =20 Advance notice is appreciated if possible. =20   Thanks for reading! -Scott 682-3077 home 259-3262 office   Scott F. Foppiano=20 Organist and Director of Parish Music Holy Rosary Catholic Church, Memphis, TN=20 In te Domine speravi, non confundar in aeternum.   Reply:   Congratulations on your Schlicker!   My undergraduate studies were at Texas Lutheran College, Seguin, TX--home = to three Schlickers, including 3M/49R tracker in a 600-seat, reverberant = chapel. I have been a fan of the 'Schlicker' sound for almost 40 years now, so I = am certain you will enjoy your instrument for years to come. The other two=20 instruments are a 1M/7R mechanical portative, and a 2M/7R unit instrument.   My music room at home will not quite measure up--but: my 1892 Wurlitzer grand piano, a Burton harspichord we acquired some time back, and our Rodgers 990.   Again, all our best...            
(back) Subject: Next Week From: "LBoekeloo" <lboekeloo@triton.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:46:17 -0500   We still on for next Tuesday at 8 PM?     Larry  
(back) Subject: Re: Next Week From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:44:31 -0800   >We still on for next Tuesday at 8 PM? > >Larry   sorry.....Regarding what? --  
(back) Subject: Re: Next Week From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:57:53 -0500   Gosh, ALL of us?   Thanks, and what's for dinner?   Cheers,   Anonymous! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LBoekeloo=20 To: 'PipeChat'=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Next Week     We still on for next Tuesday at 8 PM?       Larry  
(back) Subject: Re: Danny Boy, etc. etc, etc From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:28:11 -0500   On 3/9/05 3:18 AM, "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> wrote:   > It must have kept the gossips' tongues wagging for quite some time ("Who = was > that 'well-known' stranger ?")   DeLIGHTful tale, Harry!   Alan Freed    
(back) Subject: Re: Austin From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:34:39 EST   In a message dated 3/9/2005 9:45:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Wuxuzusu@aol.com writes:   Sadly, me thinks Monty's comment provided the perfect example to = Desiree's point (fellow list members will "do you wrong"), and contributed nothing = to the Austin thread in the process.       sadly i think Monty's comment was meant to keep the focus on Austin----and = not ANYTHING else......personal or otherwise...... dale in florida  
(back) Subject: RE: Halloween recitals? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:51:53 -0500   I'm planning a "PipeScreams and Ice Cream" concert for Oct. 30 at 6:00 = p.m., that we hope will be an outreach opportunity.   At this point, I think I'm going to dress ala "phantom of the opera".   For sure, the concert will begin with Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D-minor. = I hope to mix some "scary" stuff with some lighter stuff, perhaps even = some short vignettes performed by the drama-types of our congregation.   The children's minister has volunteered to make all kinds of scary ice = cream flavors, for after the concert.   As our organ is in the Gallery, we will use a video and screen to show the = organ and organist.   Neil Brown    
(back) Subject: Organ Parts Suppliers... From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:03:01 -0800   Greetings:   In re-reading my post about the future of the Austin company name, I want = to clarify a comment I made in regard to parts suppliers to the industry.   I am 100% in support of parts suppliers. It makes sense. We have spoken of the (seeming) fact of big factory operations where all or most of the work is done in-house disappearing one-by-one. Suppliers like Perterson, OSI, Shopp, Eastern Organ Pipes, and others make it possible for smaller artist-builders to survive.   I know of several recent, huge, and famous instruments by a smaller sized builder which would not have been possible without the expertise and artistry of employees of "suppliers to the trade." We rarely mention the contributions of the artisans working in this field, especially pipe = makers and reeds voicers.   The organ I play was assembled by a small local firm, and its saving grace was the quality of the parts provided by OSI and pipeshops in both America and Europe. It was a relatively easy project to take these excellent and unmolested raw materials and create a truly artistic instrument.   I simply don't want to be misunderstood. My comment was aimed at specific instances where a large corporation purchases the name (and THEY hope) the reputation of famous firm, after the firm has closed, and splashes it all over their advertisements, etc.   On the other hand, I see no problem with an artist from the original = company continuing to do business under the said company's name. I am thinking in this instance of John Hendriksen, former head voicer for Aeolian-Skinner, who purchased the company name and built several instruments during his semi-retirement years under that name. In that case, there is some rationale. He revoiced a Moller at a former parish I served, and quite often visitors would comment on our "excellent Skinner organ."   As you all know, I live in a "grey" world. Nothing black or white here!   Randy   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California        
(back) Subject: Oops, Sorry From: "LBoekeloo" <lboekeloo@triton.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:16:27 -0500   Sorry about that, I replied to the wrong sender and I had tracking options set to on. Sorry all. L Boekeloo  
(back) Subject: Re: Austin From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:19:17 -0800 (PST)       Wuxuzusu@aol.com wrote:List, It seems to me that Desiree has merely provided us with a personal homily = to demonstrate that she understands the background cause(s) of Austin's = demise fully. "Your own kind will do you wrong and work to get you down," whether it be = in the pipe organ building field or whatever. I understood her comments = thusly. Stan... T*H*A*N*K Y*O*U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was EXACTLY what I was trying to do. It does not take rocket science = to figure it out. Old Sayings taught by mothers, grandmothers and aunts can possible be = applied to the list of items that caused the Austin closure. That "saying" = was offered to say, in a transposed way, that the only people who mongored = rumors as stated in the Hartford newspaper...are probably organists or = those closely related to this field this. Whats going on now...we are = saddened by the closure of a great company. Is it possible that some of = the very people who are ever so saddened by the closure of a company are = some of the very ones that rumor-mongored? That brings thoughts of another = saying..."Point one finger at someone, there are 3 pointing back at you" We as a profession can certainly take that statement about your own kind = doing you wrong and apply it to several adversities in the field. In the = last month, we have had 2 tangeable adversities. MTNA Organ competitions = are coming to a close and Austin Organs of Hartford, CT can no longer say = "SINCE 1893". Do you think that both situations pointed to the profession = doing or not doing/endorsing certain things?       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Italics & odd phenomena From: <gmpender@integrity.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:41:29 -0600   I have noticed recent comments about italics showing up sporadically in = the text of posts . . . I never see italics, but I read along and then, now and = again, the font changes to light grey on the white background   Very hard on the eyes. I found that if I highlighted the text (as if to = copy and paste), it would go into dark blue "ink" and then when I released the highlight, the type would revert to light grey.   Microsoft says, "whatever happens by itself will go away by itself." Odd = . . .!       Martha    
(back) Subject: Re: Next Week From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:49:12 -0500   On 3/9/05 1:44 PM, "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> wrote:   >> We still on for next Tuesday at 8 PM? >> >> Larry > > sorry.....Regarding what? > -- Don't ask. Just show up (with a bottle of wine, of course.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: What about Kimberlee? From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:01:50 -0800 (PST)   Has anyone or any group of people taked the action to check on Kim Austin? She just lost her father. She just saw the close of the company and facility in which she probably = had afternoon snacks as a child, saw her first pipes, and player her first = notes...close. One can only imagine what she is going thru. Granted, one rumor/statment = has been that they questioned her skills. It was quite brave that she = mentioned in her statements that she is sorry for what ever ways she = failed the profession. Thats something a lot of us in this profession seem = unable to do...acknowledge our faults and failures. However, what ways did = the profession fail her? Consider her profile- A woman---who is relatively young, heading off a = company, that contributes to a field that is dominated by who and what? One really can't so much more than try to walk a mile in her shoes for = day. She is very obviously feeling so badly right now.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Closing of Austin From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:05:48 -0600   Here's the link to the article in the Hartford, CT paper:   http://www.courant.com/business/hc-organs0309.artmar09,0,1010689.story?c oll=3Dhc-headlines-business   A decent, if sad, article. My only quibble would be that I don't think it's "the last of the big builders." I believe we could include Schantz, Wicks, and Reuter in the list of "big builders" who are still around.   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Lent V at St. John's From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:44:02 EST   Lent V Church of St. John the Evangelist (Episcopal/Anglo-Catholic) Bowdoin Street, Boston   Solemn High Mass 10:30 AM   Prelude: "Adoro te devote" --Everett Titcomb Introit: "Judica me" (sung in English by the Gentlemen of the Schola) = --Sarum Chant, mode IV Ordinary of the Mass: "Missa Penitentialis" --Harris Ps. 130 --Plainsong, mode III (Chanted antiphonally between Schola and Congregation) Tract and Verse: Plainsong, mode VIII Anthem at the Offertory: "Adoramus te Christe" --G.P.da Palestrina Offertory Hymn: 1982 # 314 "Humbly I adore thee" (Adoro devote) Communion Antiphon: "Qui biberit" (sung in English by the Gentlemen of the =   Schola)--Sarum Chant, mode II Post-Communion Hymn: 1982# 149 "Eternal Lord of Love" (Old 124th) No Postlude or Communion Motet during Lent   Pax, Bill H. SJE, Boston  
(back) Subject: Re: Austin Organs From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:00:14 -0600   As I told various pipe-organ-loving people about this event - several of them commented that they should post the names of all those who did not pay for their instruments in full, leaving Austin in the lurch, on their website. After all, what can they do - sue? If it is true, nothing to sue about. I think churches too often get by with defaulting on debts because creditors are "too nice" to enforce debt collection. Someone mentioned a few months ago that it is believed to be professional suicide to sue a church. Personally, I think they should be sued when they fail to meet obligations and then just shrug and do nothing about it - at the very least, they should be publically embarrassed - and the rest of the world should be warned. It seems every time I hear of an actual church doing this, it is a very large, very wealthy church with no excuse other than that they just don't bother because they know no one will do anything about it. Just makes you want to screeeeeam!   Justinhartz@aol.com wrote: > I'm so sorry to hear about the death of the Austin organ company. > Sorry, but not surprised. > It truly is the end of an era. > Which church didn't pay for their instrument? > Perhaps organists across the world could start a letter writing campaign =   > to the deadbeat church! > > Justin     -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: Italics & odd phenomena From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:24:05 -0500   On 3/9/05 12:41 PM, "gmpender@integrity.com" <gmpender@integrity.com> wrote= :   > I found that if I highlighted the text (as if to copy and paste), it woul= d go > into dark blue "ink" and then when I released the highlight, the type wou= ld > revert to light grey.   Having lousy eyes, I use that technique a lot. And if all else fails, Select All, Copy, open a Word doc, and paste it in there, where you can customize to your heart=B9s content. Then Save or Toss Out, as appropriate. Most things aren=B9t worth even that small effort; but some ARE!   Alan Freed  
(back) Subject: Re: BWV 577 From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:55:18 -0500   Pay no attention to the so-called scholarship. Just listen to the music - pure Bach! JSB learned a lot from Bux, and used the old man's ideas as springboards for his own works, but you can always tell the difference if you use your ears. Too many of Bach's original manuscripts ended up lining birdcages for the professors to prove the authenticity of every single work beyond an academic shadow of a doubt.   -WG   >DERREINETOR@aol.com asked: > >Dear List, > >Please excuse my Bach scholarship gap here, but I am curious as to the >current disposition of BWV 577 (G major "Fugue a la Gigue"). I am aware = that it has >been, for quite some time, considered spurious (though it is included in = the >old Dupre edition, without prejudice) but does anyone know what the = current >scholarship is on this piece? Has it been attributed to someone else? It = is >certainly missing from the lovely newish Baerenreiter Urtext edition, = though that >edition takes some pains to include works formerly attributed to J.S. = Bach. > >As an aside, it has often occurred to me that there is more than some >similarity between the fugue subject of 577 and the subject (and = treatment thereof) >of Buxtehude's "Gigue" fugue in C major, Bux WV 174, though I am not = suggesting >that Buxtehude had anything to do with BWV 577. Perhaps both are simply >more-or-less contemporaneous works of the Norddeutsche school. Any = thoughts? > >Pax, >Bill H. >SJE Boston >        
(back) Subject: Re: Re: Austin Organs From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:09:38 -0500   From what I understand the "deadbeat church" in question was forced to = declare bankruptcy, leaving Austin Organs as well as any other creditors = unable to sue for any money owed. I'm not so sure there's a church out = there now having regular services sitting on a big pile of money that they = should be paying to someone else. Even if someone was willing to sue the = church, I don't think that's an option.   Churches generally have the luxury of budgeted on pledged donations rather = than anticipated earnings as business are forced to do. The tough part = for a church is then simply getting in all the pledges by the end of the = year. The problems can come when disgruntled parishioners choose not to = fulfill their pledges or to leave a church (I had a friend lose a job over = such a situation), or illegal activity such as embezzlement drains a = church of its funds.   Every organ builder, and some other industries have payment plans where a = certain amount of money is required at certain points along the progress = of a project. This eases the burden on the church, and provides needed = funds to the builder to complete the project. A church being unable to = make a payment along the way can be disastrous for a builder, although any = organ builder worth their salt should be bonded and insured against the = default of a single contract. This is a sad week for American organ = building, and I hope to see something positive still reign in Hartford.   Brent Johnson ORGANLive - Music of the organ on demand http://www.organlive.com       > > From: Margo Dillard <dillardm@airmail.net> > Date: 2005/03/09 Wed PM 02:00:14 EST > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: Austin Organs > > As I told various pipe-organ-loving people about this event - several of =   > them commented that they should post the names of all those who did not > pay for their instruments in full, leaving Austin in the lurch, on their =   > website. After all, what can they do - sue? If it is true, nothing to > sue about. I think churches too often get by with defaulting on debts > because creditors are "too nice" to enforce debt collection.    
(back) Subject: BAD LINK Re: Closing of Austin From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:49:58 EST   The link which was sent (below) is not working. Is this right?   http://www.courant.com/business/hc-organs0309.artmar09,0,1010689.story?c oll=3Dhc-headlines-business   Scott F. Foppiano Organist and Director of Parish Music Holy Rosary Catholic Church, Memphis, TN In te Domine speravi, non confundar in aeternum.