PipeChat Digest #5209 - Saturday, March 12, 2005
 
RE: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net>
dr. robert rayfield
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
PipeChat IRC this evening,
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]
  by <dudelk@aol.com>
Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]
  by "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Bankruptcy
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
NYC Choir & Orchestra Concert (this Sunday)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin
  by "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net>
Re: Bankruptcy
  by "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net>
Re: NYC  Concert (THIS Sunday)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Lansdale PA Concert this Sunday-David Higgs
  by "Eric Gombert" <egombert@comcast.net>
RE: Bankruptcy
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Migraines and Handbells
  by "Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
Re: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bankruptcy
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Bankruptcy
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: Migraines and Handbells
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
Re: Migraines
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic] From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:17:28 -0600   The obit in The Diapason mentions that he went to American Conservatory (RIP) but doesn't mention Sowerby specifically. He must have attached = more importance to it while talking to Mr. Barone. Studying with Sowerby might be important in a composer's resume but I don't think taking classes with someone is the same as "studying" with them.     two scents - Michael       _____   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lind Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:49 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]     Countless people studied with Leo Sowerby--but this means that they took composition, form and analysis, and/or other theory courses from him at American Conservatory. Before I became his assistant, I studied for one = year some of his organ works with him at Chicago's Cathedral of St. James. He = was quick to let me know that he didn't take organ students. But one could = argue that since I did study his organ works with him, some others might have = done so, over the span of many decades, as well.     Robert Lind   ----- Original Message -----   From: blueeyedbear@aol.com   To: pipechat@pipechat.org   Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:31 PM   Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield     sorry, margo. i was listening to him just this morning on a tape of an = old broadcast of pipedreams and he specifically said he was a student of sowerby's.    
(back) Subject: dr. robert rayfield From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:45:24 EST   ok, folks, please go back and read my original e-mail. i said rayfield = was a student of sowerby's. i did not say he studied organ or anything with = him. i did not imply that he studied organ with him.   on the pipedreams episode i mentioned, michael barone said that rayfield "studied with sowerby," but he also did not say exactly what the subject = was.   scot  
(back) Subject: PipeChat IRC this evening, From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:50:03 -0500   All members of PipeChat are invited to join us in the PipeChat IRC any Friday and Monday evening - beginning at 9.00 PM Eastern Time.   To find out more about the Chat room, or how to get into it, go to PipeChat-L web page at http://www.pipechat.org/   You will find out all you need to know to join us.   Tonight at 9.00 PM, - I hope that we will see you there.   Cheers,   Bob Conway     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic] From: <dudelk@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:59:30 -0500   Does that also apply to the 487,412 people who "studied" with the late = Nadia Boulanger? Just curious. -----Original Message----- From: Michael David <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:17:28 -0600 Subject: RE: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic]     The obit in The Diapason mentions that he went to American Conservatory = (RIP) but doesn=E2=80=99t mention Sowerby specifically. He must have = attached more importance to it while talking to Mr. Barone. Studying with = Sowerby might be important in a composer=E2=80=99s resume but I = don=E2=80=99t think taking classes with someone is the same as = =E2=80=9Cstudying=E2=80=9D with them. two scents =E2=80=93 Michael       From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Robert Lind Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:49 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic] Countless people studied with Leo Sowerby--but this means that they took = composition, form and analysis, and/or other theory courses from him at = American Conservatory. Before I became his assistant, I studied for one = year some of his organ works with him at Chicago's Cathedral of St. James. = He was quick to let me know that he didn't take organ students. But one = could argue that since I did study his organ works with him, some others = might have done so, over the span of many decades, as well. Robert Lind ----- Original Message ----- From: blueeyedbear@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield sorry, margo. i was listening to him just this morning on a tape of an = old broadcast of pipedreams and he specifically said he was a student of = sowerby's.  
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic] From: "Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug" <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:02:23 -0500   On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 03:59:30PM -0500, dudelk@aol.com wrote: > Does that also apply to the 487,412 people who "studied" with the late > Nadia Boulanger? Just curious. >   Boulanger wasn't a teacher. She's a religion.    
(back) Subject: Re: Bankruptcy From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:58:49 -0500   I heard the Senate passed the bill and it has yet to go to the House. = Write your reps and protest, above all that medical bills are not = included in this. David, why will legal fees skyrocket if this passes??? Merry   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-=20   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions:=20 "There let the pealing organ blow,=20 To the full-voiced choir below,=20 In service high, and anthems clear,=20 As may with sweetness, through mine ear,=20 Dissolve me into ecstasies,=20 And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes".=20 John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).=20   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty=20 Boston, MA 02131 =20 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Baker=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: Bankruptcy     A couple of modifications to what Glenda said about bankruptcy. 99% of = my law practice is bankruptcy, so I hope (!) that I know these things. = It is correct that upon the filing of a petition, an stay goes into = effect automatically that prevents most creditors from starting a law = suit or continuing an existing law suit, or taking any other action to = collect money or property from the debtor. If the creditor has a = security interest in property, the creditor would probably be allowed = relief from the stay to recover its property. Corporations do not = receive discharges; only real live human beings. A debtor can file = bankruptcy petitions as often as necessary (until the bankruptcy judge = gets tired of seeing them, essentially), but an individual (under = current law) can receive a discharge only once every seven years.=20   Churches are peculiarities in the law. I'm sure Glenda would agree = that anyone wanting to sue needs to be sure that they are suing the = right defendant. Roman catholic churches, for example, are some what = problematic because you (usually) must name the bishop of the diocese; = diocesan property is owned by the bishop as a "corporation sole", most = of the time. See (with several grains of salt) = http://www.paperadvantage.org/CorpSoleStatutes.html   Congress appears to have approved major changes in bankruptcy law that = make it more difficult for individuals to get effective relief. Anyone = who has been thinking about filing should do so sooner, rather than = later, because - if nothing else - legal fees are going to skyrocket!=20   David Baker  
(back) Subject: NYC Choir & Orchestra Concert (this Sunday) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:08:13 EST   The First Presbyterian Church in the City of New York   presents   Ludwig van Beethoven: Mass in C   The Choir, Soloists, and Orchestra of The First Presbyterian Church   Ellen Goff Entriken, Soprano Cheryl Zilinyi, Mezzo-Soprano Timothy O'Connor, Tenor Andrew Martens, Bass   Sunday Afternoon, 6 March, 2005, at FOUR O'CLOCK   Fifth Avenue from Eleventh to Twelfth Streets, New York City 4, 5, 6, L, N, and R trains to Union Square 1, 2, 3, and 9 trains to 14th Street MTA bus service available on several lines   Freewill offering and post-concert reception  
(back) Subject: Re: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin From: "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:16:13 -0500   Somewhere I have seen an arrangement for the slow movement of the = Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin for organ solo, no violin. I = think that would work well, and the slow movement alone would be fine = for a funeral. I accompanied a horn player once on the slow movement from a Mozart horn = concerto on organ and it was fine. I think reducing the orchestra part = of concertos to organ is better than to piano. Merry   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-=20   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions:=20 "There let the pealing organ blow,=20 To the full-voiced choir below,=20 In service high, and anthems clear,=20 As may with sweetness, through mine ear,=20 Dissolve me into ecstasies,=20 And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes".=20 John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).=20   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty=20 Boston, MA 02131 =20 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: blueeyedbear@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin     they want to hear it played as an organ solo, or violin accompanied by = organ? if the former, i'd call them back & tell them you can bring a CD = to play instead!   scot=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hancock <dhancock@brpae.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Sent: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:29:55 -0600 Subject: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin     I just received word yesterday evening of the death of a dear friend, and the family has specifically requested that I play the Mendelssohn Concerto in E-Minor for Violin on the organ during the funeral, which is on Monday afternoon! They want to hear the second and third movements...   First of all, does a piano or organ transcription of this work even exist? If so, where in the world can I find it prior to that time? (heaven forbid that I have time to actually learn it!)   If you have an idea or solution, please email me privately.   Thanks.   Daniel Hancock In Springfield, Missouri, with three funerals this weekend!   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: Re: Bankruptcy From: "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:35:47 -0600   My guess is, coming from one who works in a law firm, that with most = things you work on volume. If it gets tougher to file, it will take = more time and billable hours and the bigger pain it is to do, the more = likely they are to charge more.   Travis ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Merry Foxworth=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Bankruptcy     I heard the Senate passed the bill and it has yet to go to the House. = Write your reps and protest, above all that medical bills are not = included in this. David, why will legal fees skyrocket if this passes??? Merry   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-=20   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions:=20 "There let the pealing organ blow,=20 To the full-voiced choir below,=20 In service high, and anthems clear,=20 As may with sweetness, through mine ear,=20 Dissolve me into ecstasies,=20 And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes".=20 John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).=20   Merry Foxworth Open Door Realty=20 Boston, MA 02131 =20 617 469-4888 x207 877 865-1703 toll free http://www.opendoorrlty.com/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Baker=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: Bankruptcy     A couple of modifications to what Glenda said about bankruptcy. 99% = of my law practice is bankruptcy, so I hope (!) that I know these = things. It is correct that upon the filing of a petition, an stay goes = into effect automatically that prevents most creditors from starting a = law suit or continuing an existing law suit, or taking any other action = to collect money or property from the debtor. If the creditor has a = security interest in property, the creditor would probably be allowed = relief from the stay to recover its property. Corporations do not = receive discharges; only real live human beings. A debtor can file = bankruptcy petitions as often as necessary (until the bankruptcy judge = gets tired of seeing them, essentially), but an individual (under = current law) can receive a discharge only once every seven years.=20   Churches are peculiarities in the law. I'm sure Glenda would agree = that anyone wanting to sue needs to be sure that they are suing the = right defendant. Roman catholic churches, for example, are some what = problematic because you (usually) must name the bishop of the diocese; = diocesan property is owned by the bishop as a "corporation sole", most = of the time. See (with several grains of salt) = http://www.paperadvantage.org/CorpSoleStatutes.html   Congress appears to have approved major changes in bankruptcy law = that make it more difficult for individuals to get effective relief. = Anyone who has been thinking about filing should do so sooner, rather = than later, because - if nothing else - legal fees are going to = skyrocket!=20   David Baker
(back) Subject: Re: NYC Concert (THIS Sunday) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:42:02 EST   Sorry about that. Today was my first day with the new brain, which = apparently doesn't work any better than my old one.   That's the 13th, not the 6th ...   and I failed to mention that William F. Entriken, Organist and = Choirmaster, will be conducting.   Mea Gulpa  
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic] From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:54:46 -0600   exactly - he may have referred to the work he did with Sowerby on Sowerby's organ works having been a "student of" - but he certainly did not study organ with him. I was a student of Rayfield and studied works of Sowerby with him - he made his relationship with Sowerby rather clear to those of us he passed that knowledge on to. He also studied Sowerby's compositional style and wrote a number of hymn harmonizations in Sowerby's harmonic style.   Robert Lind wrote: > Countless people studied with Leo Sowerby--but this means that they took =   > composition, form and analysis, and/or other theory courses from him at > American Conservatory. Before I became his assistant, I studied for one > year some of his organ works with him at Chicago's Cathedral of St. > James. He was quick to let me know that he didn't take organ students. > But one could argue that since I did study his organ works with him, > some others might have done so, over the span of many decades, as well. > > Robert Lind > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blueeyedbear@aol.com <mailto:blueeyedbear@aol.com> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org <mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield > > sorry, margo. i was listening to him just this morning on a tape > of an old broadcast of pipedreams and he specifically said he was a > student of sowerby's. >     -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Lansdale PA Concert this Sunday-David Higgs From: "Eric Gombert" <egombert@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:27:09 -0500   David Higgs returns to Trinity Lutheran Church five years after performing the organ dedicatory recitals.   SUNDAY, MARCH 13, 2005 7:00 p.m. Free-will offering   Trinity Lutheran Church 1000 West Main Street Lansdale PA 19446 (north of Philadelphia) www.trinitylansdale.com   PROGRAM Buxtehude: Toccata in F, BuxWV 156 Pachelbel: Hexachordum Apollinis: Aria Sexta (8 variations on "Aria Sebaldina") Bach: Fantasia and Fugue in G Minor, Bwv 542 Karg-Elert: Harmonies du Soir (Op. 72, No. 1) Bolcom: Free Fantasia on "O Zion Haste" and "How Firm A Foundation" LeF=E9bure-W=E9ly: Bolero de Concert Reubke: The Ninety-Fourth Psalm     Join us as we continue to celebrate the fifth anniversary of the dedication of the III/69 Martin Ott pipe organ.   Eric G. Gombert Director of Music      
(back) Subject: RE: Bankruptcy From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:20:37 -0600   Thanks for that clarification, David. I stay away from federal and bankruptcy practice - hated it in law school. However, one must know just enough in the other areas of the law to stay clear and to advise clients when to find themselves a bankruptcy attorney. And I remember just enough to make a fool out of myself. My 'new' areas (the ones I'm relearning) are real estate, criminal defense, wills and probate, with a smattering of family law.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (who spent the afternoon painting the ceiling and one wall of her new office)          
(back) Subject: Migraines and Handbells From: "Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:33:20 -0600   Greetings   I would like to add a few comments to this "off-topic" discussion.   Migraines and handbells not need be related. However, handbells = incorrectly rung or poorly adjusted could cause serious hearing related problems.   To the best of my knowledge, there are four major handbell manufacturers: Petit & Fritzen (Holland), Whitechapel (England), Malmark (United States) and Schulmerich (United States).   Petit & Fritzen and Whitechapel do not have adjustable clappers. Both American bell manufacturers have adjustable clappers which can be set at three levels.   I believe there is a tendency in the U.S. to set bells on the loudest settings. To my 60+ year old ears they tend to sound brittle and = strident, especially in the upper registers (G6 - C8). A softer setting on the extreme treble bells may help alleviate migraines.   In addition to the clapper settings improper adjustment of the springs can make soft ringing difficult. A few hours of regulation will make ringing = a more enjoyable experience for both ringers and directors.   Of course, proper ringing technique can create a more musical performance. The American Guild of English Handbell Ringers (AGEHR) offer workshops throughout the U.S. to aid directors and ringers.   I should also mention Petit & Fritzen handbells are tuned differently than Malmark, Schulmerich and Whitechapel. The P & F bells have a minor tierce in their harmonic structure. Playing chord with a major third will cause strong harmonic clashes.   Now back to lurking!   Tom Gregory   p.s. I should mention that our family has a set of American manufactured bells. My wife, daughter and I have yet to suffer a migraine from = ringing.            
(back) Subject: Re: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:39:10 -0600   Klaus Beckmann, in his Repertorium, mentions the Adagio from the Violin Concerto edited by Steggal, published by Ewer.   Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Hancock <dhancock@brpae.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: Mendelssohn Concerto in E-minor for Violin     > I just received word yesterday evening of the death of a dear friend, > and the family has specifically requested that I play the Mendelssohn > Concerto in E-Minor for Violin on the organ during the funeral, which is > on Monday afternoon! They want to hear the second and third > movements... > > First of all, does a piano or organ transcription of this work even > exist? If so, where in the world can I find it prior to that time? > (heaven forbid that I have time to actually learn it!) > > If you have an idea or solution, please email me privately. > > Thanks. > > Daniel Hancock      
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Raefield [sic] From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:47:16 +0000   On 3/11/05 8:59 PM, "dudelk@aol.com" <dudelk@aol.com> wrote:   > Does that also apply to the 487,412 people who "studied" with the late = Nadia > Boulanger?   Oh, I thought EVERYBODY did! Surely far more than half a million = students.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Re: Bankruptcy From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:57:24 EST   to whom of out esteemed lawyer cohorts may we direct a question in private = regarding lawyer type things..... just thinking out loud down in southwest Florida dale  
(back) Subject: Re: Bankruptcy From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:15:46 -0500   Just offer money You'll get them calling you :-))))       Nelson. Ducking for cover!    
(back) Subject: Re: Migraines and Handbells From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:35:34 EST   It's not the bells that cause the migraine. When my headache is at it's worse, even the softest bell could cause it to exasperate. It is just any = noise to which my headaches are sensitive. I take my $20 a pill medication, = wrap up like a cocoon, head and all for 30 minutes in a dark quiet room, put a = cold compress on my neck, and it is gone. Amazing medication, but at $300 a prescription, I get all the samples I can get. Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: Migraines From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:35:31 EST   Thank you for all your thoughtful suggestions and comments about handbells and migraines. I do avoid all of the trigger foods and wear sunglasses when it is = bright on the way to church. Migraines are not something I regularly have -- only the sounds of the =   bells triggers them. This has been a problem ever since I was first = introduced to the bells while an undergraduate at WCC. I do believe that the tuning of the overtones, combined with the close =   range I sometimes hear bells in dry acoustics is the primary trigger. Schulmerich handbells seem to have more quint in the tone. That has = often bothered me. Volume of music alone is not a trigger because I don't have this = problem when I play organ with a symphony orchestra. Believe me, that can get very =   LOUD on stage. I once had the misfortune of playing in a massed handbell choir = festival. I was amazed at the tuning discrepancies between different choirs. The choir I directed had Malmark bells, and we were surrounded by = choirs of Schulmerich bells. The difference in "stretch" tuning was such that one =   Schulmerich set was 20 cents sharp at the treble end. Handbell Celeste! YUCK! Fortunately, the high Episcopalian Church for which I now work is handbell free. I intend to keep it that way.   Cheers!   Justin P.S. I live in Bucks County Pennsylvania, which is home to both Malmark = and Schulmerich.