PipeChat Digest #5213 - Monday, March 14, 2005
Re: 8' trumpet
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Ludwigstone
  by <SWF12262@aol.com>
Re:Mother's day music
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
music list Lent V
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>

(back) Subject: Re: 8' trumpet From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:26:17 -0500   Kip in Mo or Paul Smith:   Was this question directed to Gary or to me?   Jim       On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:04:40 -0600 "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> writes: Gary - Since you are flying in the ether of generalities, could you broaden out your comments and mention which periods or types of reed pipes this might apply to. I have several reeds from the "Golden Age" ( 1920s and 1930s) which have been around the block. The sound of the 16' Waldhorns (Kilgen) is very uneven, and I am curious if starting over from scratch would help. Thanks, Kip in Mo ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim McFarland To: pipechat@pipechat.org Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: Re: 8' trumpet     Gary:   What I say here applies to some, but not all reeds. I am also speaking in glittering generalities, if you have more specific questions, please voice them.   A trumpet from that vintage M=F6ller was constructed and voiced with the intent that it be tuned on the scroll and not the wire. That being said, if the stop was moved, and stored etc, it is likely that the wires were disturbed, and therefore the first tuning should be on the wire.   If all things are as they should be, the wire is used only for regulating.   Within a fairly narrow margin, the stop can be made louder by opening the scroll a little, and knocking the wire up until each note is in tune. (The inverse holds true) If previous tuners have been careless with the scrolls and scrolled them down too far, then you could have trouble with "leaking scrolls." Scrolls that are weak from rolling down too far, will adversely affect the speech and tuning stability.   Usually the scrolls "live" between one and two scroll widths down from closed. In other words, if the scroll is one inch wide, the opening above it will be from one inch to two inches long.   If the stop is hopelessly out of regulation, and you need to figure out where to start, you can try this. Place all scrolls about one scroll width from the top. If the scroll seams are erratic, wavy, or just peeled open too far, then temporarily tape them up with masking tape. On each pipe, knock the wire down slowly while the note is playing, and stop when the note begins to choke. At this point, knock it back up a little bit, and finish tuning on the scroll. In no instance should you tear into new metal while scrolling down. Once you have done this, go back and try to even things out.   Remove the tape before it makes a mess on the pipe. If you have scrolls which are still rolled "way up" compared to how long the seams are open, let me know, and I will try to help you with that problem   This whole process is really not something that should be attempted by the untrained and inexperienced. I offer these suggestions only because they might be used by an amateur on HIS OWN house organ.     Jim               On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:32 -0600 "GB" <gblack@ocslink.com> writes: HI list, I have a question. I have installed my 8' trumpet in my residence organ. I tuned it and what a sound! It is from a Moller organ from about 1986. What are the scrolls for on the bells of the pipes and what do I do with them? Thanks, Gary
(back) Subject: ludwigtone From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:53:21 -0600   Scot......I'd check with Buzard......they have started using ludwigtones = on a number of their instruments; perhaps you'll be fortunate enough to find one near you.   I once had a 1930 Wicks doppelflute which might have been similar.   Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: Re: Ludwigstone From: <SWF12262@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:31:35 EST   I remember a really lovely Ludwigstone on the choir of the 1922(?) = Votteler at Rogers Park Presbyterian, Chicago. As I recall, it was a rather small =   scale double-mouth wood. Lots of fundamental, but not "hooty," gently undulating, and rather soft. It was a 4' rank, and I always wished it = extended all the way down to 8'. Steve Steven Weyand Folkers St. Lambert RC Church Skokie, IL  
(back) Subject: Re:Mother's day music From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:55:58 EST   How about "Priere a Notre Dame" from the Boellmann Suite Gothique. I've also played Liszt's "Ave maris stella" for a Mother's Day Evensong. There's always "Mother at you feet is kneeling" and "O Mary we crown Thee with blossoms today" :)   Justin  
(back) Subject: music list Lent V From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:29:35 -0800   Prelude: "Jesu, Leiden, Pien und tod" Johann Caspar Vogler "The Peace May Be Exchanged" (RUBRICS) Dan Locklair   Entrance Hymn: "Eternal Lord of Love, Behold Your Church" Trisagion:   Gospel Procession: "Veni Sancte Spiritus" TAIZE CHANT   Offertory Anthem: Fijian Choir Improvisation & Doxology: "Old 100th"   Sanctus: Schubert Agnus Dei:   Communion Music: Improvised Post-Communion Hymn: "Give Thanks"   Closing Hymn: "Come, My Way, My Truth, My Life"   Postlude: "Toccata for a Joyful Day" Emma Lou Diemer   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California