PipeChat Digest #5217 - Thursday, March 17, 2005
 
Re: Fountain Street Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan [x-posted]
  by <jerrym8319@aol.com>
Re: Reed destruction and bad tuning practices
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: Fountain Street Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan [x-posted]
  by "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net>
"Will the Real Fountain Street Church Please Stand Up?" [x-posted]
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Palm (Passion) Sunday at SJE
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Mendelssohn Violin Concerto--Adagio
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
music for HEMY neede asap - x-posted
  by <davidlines@comcast.net>
RE: Palm (Passion) Sunday at SJE
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Dennis James - Sioux City - Silent Films debut this weekend
  by <MUSCUR@aol.com>
Popular Tune Sources
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Fountain Street Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan [x-posted] From: <jerrym8319@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:28:30 -0500   The organ on the album jacket is not Fountain Street Church. The musicians = are from that church. I believe the album picture is where it was recorded = and that being a city further west from Grand Rapids.....maybe Muskegon. -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Lester <crl@137.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>; Pipe Organs & Related Topics = <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:25:59 -0800 Subject: Fountain Street Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan [x-posted]     I have an early1970s LP record made at the Fountain Street Church in Grand = Rapids, Michigan. The record features an Allen Digital Organ from that era = (so, yes, it sounds awful), and is a demo record made by that company to = promote its instruments. I happened to come across this in my fairly large = LP collection while looking for something else, and took a good look at = the cover - not having seen it for a long time. The sanctuary featured on the cover of the LP jacket is a very = futuristic-looking, mid-1950s or early-1960s "Populuxe" style building. I = grew curious about this facility since that's one of my favorite periods = of American architecture, being a baby boomer who grew up in that era. = (btw my 49th birthday will be on March 27th -- feel free to lavish me with = cards, gifts and money!!) So I began googling to find out more about it. What came up, however, as = the Fountain Street Church in Grand Rapids looks nothing like the church = on this record album. While I have not found any exterior shots, going by the interiors shown on = the church's web site as well as the Grand Rapids chapter of the A.G.O.'s = site, it seems to be considerably older. The interior is that "grand = theatre' wrap-around auditorium with an expansive, horseshoe-shaped = balcony. that was very much in vogue in the1920s, and the overall "faux = gothic" aesthetic also seems to be from that era. (They do have a large = Allen pipe-digital combo with an English-cathedral-style console.) So I am wondering ... are there TWO Fountain Street Churches in Grand = Rapids, or did they build a new sanctuary in a 1920s-inspired building, or = did they move to an older building, and if so, what became of the Populuxe = building? Inquiring minds want to know! btw, going by the organs depicted on the GRAGO site, there are some = wonderful instruments in Grand Rapids! ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>  
(back) Subject: Re: Reed destruction and bad tuning practices From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:56:47 -0600   It follows from this that most of the damaged scroll problems occur when = inexpert tuners attempt to move the scolls when the reed is not at its = correct temperature of around 70=B0F. If the temperature is wrong, the = scrolls will have to be moved too far and damage is likely. If the = temperature is not right, the reed should preferably not be tuned at = all.   John Speller   ----- Original Message -----=20 From: RMaryman@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Reed destruction and bad tuning practices     In a message dated 3/14/2005 9:04:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, = mcfarland6@juno.com writes: It looks as though I stand somewhat alone on the list, until someone = else speaks up? NO, you are not alone. I have been tuning since the early 1970's and = my experience has been about the same as yours. Schantz (among others) = is very emphatic that their reeds be tuned only on the scrolls unless = they leave a notice otherwise. (some of their fanfare reeds are tuned on = the wire, but they are the exception). I also have found that once the = wire and scroll of a reed pipe are in balance (which is to say 'the way = they were set at the time of voicing/finishing) and the temperature is = appropriate for tuning (inrelatively close proximity to 70 degrees F.) = then a slight nudge on the scroll is all that is needed to bring the = pipe into tune with the flues. there are exceptions (like Vox Humana or = other short-length reeds), but in general tuning at the scroll with an = occasional "tweak" on the wire gives the most stable reed tuning = results. (at least in my experience).   Rick in VA
(back) Subject: Re: Fountain Street Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan [x-posted] From: "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:08:35 -0600   jerrym8319@aol.com wrote: > The organ on the album jacket is not Fountain Street Church. The > musicians are from that church. I believe the album picture is where it > was recorded and that being a city further west from Grand > Rapids.....maybe Muskegon.   I also have a memory of this recording, and the jacket was pretty clear that it was the Fountain Street Church CHOIR singing at some other place (RC?), a nice reverberant place that made catfights and early Allens sound equally lovely.   John Seboldt Milwaukee, WI  
(back) Subject: "Will the Real Fountain Street Church Please Stand Up?" [x-posted] From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:57:36 -0800   Dennis et al,   Thanks for the reply and info clearing up my confusion about Fountain Street Church vs. St. Francis de Sales Church.   After looking more closely at the album, I realized my mistake of thinking that the St. Francis de Sales church building was the Fountain Street church. I had not read the liner notes before making my posting.   Re my comment about the organ at Fountain Street, so sorry to have mis-labeled it as an Allen when it is, in actuality, an Austin/Allen/Tellers/Casavant/EMSkinner. Again, my mistake. Not being a Grand Rapidsian, I was not intimately acquainted with this church or its organ.   I do maintain that the organ console looks very much like an English-style console -- with tall, narrow stop jambs extending very high on either side, with the music desk incorporated deep into the console shell rather than as an appurtenance on top of it. At least, it appears to be so from the photo.   Compare the Fountain Street console --   http://www.grago.org/organs/doc/fountain_street.htm   to the following one [Central Reformed Church, Grand Rapids, Schantz/Dial] as an off-the-cuff example of what I would call an American-style console, e.g., =E0 la =C6olian-Skinner --   http://www.grago.org/images/organs/central_reformed_scroll_large.jpg   Granted, the height of the stop jambs on the Fountain Street console is partly due to the large number of stops, but in other large American consoles they seem to more often be arranged into wider jambs rather than taller.   e.g., See: http://www.westwoodumc.org/2_Ministries/Music_Ministry/organ.html   (n.b., this photo does not at all do this console justice. I have some much better ones saved from Bob Turner's web site [who built the console], if anyone cares to see them. It is a very elegant and grand console with terraced stop jambs that curve in toward the performer, making every stop knob readily accessible, without having to strain to reach the outer- and upper-most ones.)   ~ C    
(back) Subject: Palm (Passion) Sunday at SJE From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:12:06 EST   Palm (Passion) Sunday Solemn High Mass, 10:30AM Church of St. John the Evangelist, Bowdoin St., Boston   Prelude: "Vexilla Regis" --Everett Titcomb Antiphon: "Hosanna filio David" --Sarum Plainchant; sung by the Gentlemen = of the Schola, in English Hymn at the Procession of the Palms: H 1982 #154 "All Glory, laud, and honour" (Valet will ich dir geben) Hymn after the Station: H 1982#156 "Ride on! ride on in majesty" (The = King's Majesty) The Ordinary of the Mass: Missa Penitentialis (no Kyrie)--W. Harris (yours =   truly) Ps. 118:19-29--Plainchant, mode IV The Passion Gospel: Chanted by three Gentlemen of the Schola on a = Gregorian Tone. Anthem at the Offertory: "Drop, drop, slow tears" --W. Harris (newly composed) Offertory Hymn: H 1982 #162 "The royal banners forward go" (Vexilla Regis =   produent) Post-Communion Hymn: H 1982 #158 "Ah, Holy Jesus, how hast thou offended" = ( Herzliebster Jesu), sung in four parts, a capella, with choir and = congregation. (First stanza accompanied by the organ.)   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston          
(back) Subject: Mendelssohn Violin Concerto--Adagio From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:40:59 -0600   Mendelssohn Violin Concerto--Adagio   Now that it's too late, in looking through a couple of anthologies for so= mething else, I immediately found an organ transcription of the Mendelsso= hn Adagio in Preston Ware Orem's Organ Repertoire, A Book of Pipe Organ M= usic for Church and Concert, published by Presser probably in 1909 (each = piece is copyrighted separately, not all in the same year). The album con= tains many transcriptions as well as some original organ pieces. I have t= he feeling that there must be other volumes that have a transcription of = the Mendelssohn besides this and the one I mentioned one in an earlier po= sting. Sorry I didn't take time to do some digging when you made your req= uest, Daniel.   Bob Lind   =A0   Bob--   I, too, eventually found the Adagio in an obscure collection, and this is= what I played for the funeral. I appreciate both your comments and thos= e that others made. The music went fairly well, given the circumstances.= =20   Daniel  
(back) Subject: music for HEMY neede asap - x-posted From: <davidlines@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:31:10 +0000   Hello all - I'm playing a St. Patrick's Day mass tomorrow and have = discovered that my copy of "Hail Glorious St. Patrick" is from a hymnal = that didn't include the chorus which they will expect to sing. I haven't = found the tune - Hemy - anywhere else. I only have 16 measures of it and = the total with the refrain should be about 25 measures. If anyone can = help, I would greatly appreciate it. PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY directly to = my e-mail if you might have a pdf file of this hymntune.   Thanks,   David Lines davidlines@comcast.net   -- Listen to my internet radio station "Adagio for Organ" at www.live365.com/stations/304802
(back) Subject: RE: Palm (Passion) Sunday at SJE From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:33:32 -0600   Sounds like a very moving service, Bill.     Glenda Sutton   gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of DERREINETOR@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:12 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Palm (Passion) Sunday at SJE     Palm (Passion) Sunday Solemn High Mass, 10:30AM Church of St. John the Evangelist, Bowdoin St., Boston   Prelude: "Vexilla Regis" --Everett Titcomb Antiphon: "Hosanna filio David" --Sarum Plainchant; sung by the Gentlemen of the Schola, in English Hymn at the Procession of the Palms: H 1982 #154 "All Glory, laud, and honour" (Valet will ich dir geben) Hymn after the Station: H 1982#156 "Ride on! ride on in majesty" (The King's Majesty) The Ordinary of the Mass: Missa Penitentialis (no Kyrie)--W. Harris (yours truly) Ps. 118:19-29--Plainchant, mode IV The Passion Gospel: Chanted by three Gentlemen of the Schola on a Gregorian Tone. Anthem at the Offertory: "Drop, drop, slow tears" --W. Harris (newly composed) Offertory Hymn: H 1982 #162 "The royal banners forward go" (Vexilla Regis produent) Post-Communion Hymn: H 1982 #158 "Ah, Holy Jesus, how hast thou offended" (Herzliebster Jesu), sung in four parts, a capella, with choir and congregation. (First stanza accompanied by the organ.)   Pax, Bill H. SJE Boston            
(back) Subject: Dennis James - Sioux City - Silent Films debut this weekend From: <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:08:04 EST   =20 Dennis James plays for first Silent Film Festival at the Orpheum Theater,=20 Sioux City, Iowa   I am delighted to inform theatre organ and silent film fans of the special=20 debut silent film series programs which I will be playing for at the beauti= ful=20 restored Orpheum Theatre in downtown Sioux City, Iowa opening this Friday,=20 March 18.   The Orpheum Theater will show three classic soundless films as a part of it= s=20 debut Silent Film Festival. =20 Friday, March 18, 2005 - 7:30 PM =E2=80=93 THE GOLD RUSH (1925) starring C= haplin=20 accompanied by solo organ realization of the original release cue sheet sco= re. =20 Saturday, March 19, 2005 =E2=80=93 2 PM =E2=80=93 A DOG=E2=80=99S LIFE (19= 18) starring Charlie=20 Chaplin accompanied by solo organ realization of the original release cue s= heet=20 score=20 Saturday, March 19, 2005 =E2=80=93 7:30 PM =E2=80=93 PHANTOM OF THE OPERA=20= (1925) starring=20 Lon Chaney, Sr. accompanied by solo organ arrangement of the original=20 Hinrichs & Winkler orchestra musical score.=20 All of the films will be accompanied by yours truly at the Orpheum=20 Theatre's restored Wurlitzer theatre pipe organ. The Sioux City Orpheum was= designed=20 by the nationally known Chicago firm of Rapp & Rapp and constructed in 1927= =20 as part of the Orpheum Circuit. This once-opulent vaudeville and moving =20 picture house boasted a large 2,650-seat, three-story auditorium complete wi= th =20 Wurlitzer pipe organ, half circle boxes, hand carved detailing, gilded =20 ornamentation, several crystal chandeliers, and a hand painted ceiling. Thr= oughout the=20 years, the Orpheum has been used for symphony performances, ballet, special= =20 attractions, and hosted entertainers such as Fred Astaire, Tallulah Bankhea= d,=20 and Katherine Hepburn. In order to save the Wurlitzer from destruction=20 during many of the remodeling projects in the 1950=E2=80=99s and 1980=E2=80= =99s, the Sioux City=20 Women=E2=80=99s Club moved the organ to the Sioux City Auditorium in 1971.=20= The Darrow=20 Pipe Organ in Onawa, Iowa has been in the process of restoring the organ=20 over the course of the last few years, putting in over 8,000 man-hours on t= he=20 job. A small group of community leaders raised the funds necessary to do th= e=20 restoration. The organ will has three manuals, 20 ranks, 1,700 pipes, and 2= 10 =20 stops.=20 For more information on the theatre, including many pictures, please visit=20 and for all of the opening silent film program series events, please visit=20= =20 www. OrpheumLive.com=20   Sioux City Orpheum =20 528 Pierce Street=20 Sioux City, IA 51101-1243=20 Auditorium Box Office, Monday through Friday 10:30 am - 5:30 pm or Saturday= =20 10:30 am - 1:30 pm at 712-279-4850. Or you can call 712-252-3434=20 $5-$10 per film.=20   All the best, Dennis James=20 Listing sent from: =20 Silent Film Concerts PO Box 2072 Tacoma, Washington 98401-2072 USA 253-573-1683=20 To be deleted from this mailing list, please respond with e-mail request=20 containing REMOVE in the subject heading and sent to _muscur@aol.com_=20 (mailto:muscur@aol.com)=20      
(back) Subject: Popular Tune Sources From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:40:01 -0000   Can anyone suggest one or two pieces that were written for organ but used = to source pouplar tunes ? These are to include in a recital.   I have the well known Lemare Andantino (Moonlight and Roses) of course - = can anyone think of any others ?   Thanks.   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html