PipeChat Digest #5223 - Tuesday, March 22, 2005
 
Re: Popular Tune Sources
  by "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es>
RE: Popular Tune Sources
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Popular Tune Sources
  by "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Palm / Passion Sunday
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Wicks fuga deluxe
  by <JOSwissmister@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 - 03/20/05
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Palm Sunday
  by "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com>
Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Popular Tune Sources
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345
  by "Bill Lyon" <wflyon@usadatanet.net>
Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
PipeChat IRC this evening,
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
IRC Tonight - Reminder
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: IRC Tonight - Reminder
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Subject Headings
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
RE: Popular Tune Sources
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Popular Tune Sources (Whiter Shade of Pale)
  by "Robert Bell" <bobbell@optonline.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Popular Tune Sources From: "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:07:40 +0100   Quoting Bruce Miles: > 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' has been mentioned - it has a vaguely > Bach-like intro but I've never been able to pin it down to > anything in particular. Anyone any thoughts on this ?   This very piece of music caused my downfall. I made the mistake of playing it on the church organ on which I used to practice when I was a teenager and was banned for life for "blasphemy".   Peter.    
(back) Subject: RE: Popular Tune Sources From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:51:12 +1200   >> 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' has been mentioned - it has a vaguely >> Bach-like intro but I've never been able to pin it down to >> anything in particular. Anyone any thoughts on this ?   >This very piece of music caused my downfall. I made the >mistake of playing it on the church organ on which I >used to practice when I was a teenager and was banned for >life for "blasphemy".   If I remember correctly, and I'm quite happy to be corrected on this, that pop tune was based on the Bach "Schubler" organ chorale prelude on "Wachet auf ruft uns die Stimme". If it's blasphemy to play that, we might as well all give up. ;-)   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Popular Tune Sources From: "Bob Elms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:17:24 +0800   I played Whiter Shade of Pale on our church organ when it was top of the opos. I was not banned. "Why should the devil have the best tunes"? Bob Elms. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: RE: Popular Tune Sources     >>> 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' has been mentioned - it has a vaguely >>> Bach-like intro but I've never been able to pin it down to >>> anything in particular. Anyone any thoughts on this ? > >>This very piece of music caused my downfall. I made the >>mistake of playing it on the church organ on which I >>used to practice when I was a teenager and was banned for >>life for "blasphemy". > > If I remember correctly, and I'm quite happy to be corrected on this, = that > pop tune was based on the Bach "Schubler" organ chorale prelude on = "Wachet > auf ruft uns die Stimme". If it's blasphemy to play that, we might as = well > all give up. ;-) > > Ross > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 > >       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005    
(back) Subject: Palm / Passion Sunday From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:55:14 -0500   Palm / Passion Sunday at Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio   Prelude: Valet will ich dir geben (aka All Glory, Laud and Honor) -- J.S. Bach Hymn: All Glory, Laud and Honor (St. Theodolph) Offertory solo: The Holy City (baritone solo) -- Stephen Adams Communion: Lutheran Book of Worship, setting #2 Cantata: Lenten Canticles -- John Leavitt, to which I added a baritone solo, "Indifference" (aka "When Jesus Came to Golgotha"), words by Geoffrey Studdert-Kennedy, music by yours truly) No postlude   Randy Runyon    
(back) Subject: Wicks fuga deluxe From: <JOSwissmister@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:46 EST   Does anyone out there own a Wicks fuga deluxe? I recently acquired such an =   instrument (built in 1937) and would like to exchange information with = others about this organ. Mine plays very well and I'm happy to have a home = instrument on which to practice.  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 - 03/20/05 From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:09:49 EST         SUBJECT HEADINGS ARE A COURTESY  
(back) Subject: Palm Sunday From: "Dominic Scullion" <dominicscullion@email.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:23:09 -0000   Dear All,     Can anyone tell me if you used 'Praise My Soul' for the Processional hymn = at a Palm Sunday or if you didn't, do you think it is appropriate?     Please reply privately.     Regards,     Dominic Scullion    
(back) Subject: Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:35:22 -0500   Spooky - exactly the same thing happened at St. Paul's UMC, Allison Park, PA. We had an excellent youth orchestra in the chancel, and they had just started their prelude, the Bach Double, when all the lights went out. They kids were troopers, and kept playing in the dark. The young girl who was handling the continuo climbed off the organ bench and came over to the piano to finish. Young people absorb photons so much more efficiently than I do. The power returned just second before the offertory, restoring the organ to life, which was nice since I was so looking forward to playing the Albinoni Adagio with the orchestra.   - Walter Greenwood   >"Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> wrote: > >No power in the building for the first half of the service. > >Prelude: ... > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:46:58 EST   In a message dated 3/21/05 7:37:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, walterg@nauticom.net writes:   > The power returned just second before the > offertory, restoring the organ to life, which was nice since I was so > looking forward to playing the Albinoni Adagio with the orchestra.   you mean the giazotto andante... :P  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:03:49 -0600   And they are subject to the eye and ear of the beholder. I'm particularly entranced by the inherent beauty of this one and plan to write a hymn tune that is based on the intervals contained therein. It seems rather Lenten, perhaps Holy Weeky, and its upward stepwise movement at the end asks a poignant question. As soon as Easter Day has concluded, I'll begin writing 33 endless variations and a convoluted quadruple fugue on it for organ.   I suppose some hymnal editors and organ-music publishers will say that 52208734509843452345 is not a proper name for a hymn tune, but I'm = prepared to fight this all the way to the supreme court and a special session of = the senate.   Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 - 03/20/05     > > SUBJECT HEADINGS ARE A COURTESY      
(back) Subject: Re: Popular Tune Sources From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:07:34 -0800     >>> 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' has been mentioned - it has a vaguely >>> Bach-like intro but I've never been able to pin it down to >>> anything in particular. Anyone any thoughts on this ?   > If I remember correctly, and I'm quite happy to be corrected on this, = that > pop tune was based on the Bach "Schubler" organ chorale prelude on = "Wachet > auf ruft uns die Stimme". If it's blasphemy to play that, we might as = well > all give up. ;-) > While Whiter Shade is vaguely reminiscent of Wachet auf, I defy anyone to point to any actual resemblance, harmonic, melodic, or otherwise. (And by the way, I love them about equally.)   MAF    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:12:23 -0500   This sounds more like an interesting drawbar setting for a hammond! I was actually going to write a play by numbers tune for this. Bob, ya beat me to it. But rest assured, when I announce 52208734509843452, verses 5 and 32 as the recessional, not one of the congregation will take any notice.   NFRussotto     On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:03:49 -0600, Robert Lind <lindr@core.com> wrote: > And they are subject to the eye and ear of the beholder. I'm = particularly > entranced by the inherent beauty of this one and plan to write a hymn = tune > that is based on the intervals contained therein. It seems rather = Lenten, > perhaps Holy Weeky, and its upward stepwise movement at the end asks a > poignant question. As soon as Easter Day has concluded, I'll begin = writing > 33 endless variations and a convoluted quadruple fugue on it for organ. > > I suppose some hymnal editors and organ-music publishers will say that > 52208734509843452345 is not a proper name for a hymn tune, but I'm = prepared > to fight this all the way to the supreme court and a special session of = the > senate. > > Bob Lind > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:09 AM > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 - 03/20/05 > > > > > SUBJECT HEADINGS ARE A COURTESY > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >     -- Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:37:08 +0000   On 3/21/05 6:27 AM, "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> wrote:   > Hymn: Up From the Grave He Arose   Jan: Is that unusual for Palm Sunday? It sounds about seven days early = (to me)..   Alan Freed    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345 From: "Bill Lyon" <wflyon@usadatanet.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:02:56 -0500   Am I correct in that this is a numerical version of a melody line? Thanks. Bill   ----- Original Message ----- From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #52208734509843452345     > This sounds more like an interesting drawbar setting for a hammond! I > was actually going to write a play by numbers tune for this. Bob, ya > beat me to it. But rest assured, when I announce 52208734509843452, > verses 5 and 32 as the recessional, not one of the congregation will > take any notice. > > NFRussotto    
(back) Subject: Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:22:39 +0800   You're not alone. I'd like to follow a traditional church calendar. We're n= ot quite in lock-step with the rest of the world sometimes. The term "Palm Sunday" was only used by two deacons, one elder and myself. = It wasn't mentioned in the bulletin. The sermon text was based on John 19:2= 8-42; the death and burial of Jesus. So we were on topic ... for this comin= g Friday.   Easter is the "big to-do."     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Palm Sunday morning candlelight service ... Delta Oaks Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:37:08 +0000   >=20 > On 3/21/05 6:27 AM, "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> wrote: >=20 > > Hymn: Up From the Grave He Arose >=20 > Jan: Is that unusual for Palm Sunday? It sounds about seven days early = (to > me).. >=20 > Alan Freed   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: PipeChat IRC this evening, From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:33:05 -0500   All members of PipeChat are invited to join us in the PipeChat IRC any Friday and Monday evening - beginning at 9.00 PM Eastern Time.   To find out more about the Chat room, or how to get into it, go to PipeChat-L web page at http://www.pipechat.org/   You will find out all you need to know to join us.   Tonight at 9.00 PM, - I hope that we will see you there.   Cheers,   Bob Conway     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: IRC Tonight - Reminder From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:44:32 -0600   Since I haven't seen a message from Bob Conway about IRC I thought I would send one myself.   As is our normal custom the PipeChat IRC "live chat" will happen tonight beginning at 9 PM EASTERN time.   Over the last couple of weeks we have had some new people join in with our on-line live chats and I hope that those of you who have joined us recently will continue to join in.   For those of you that haven't joined in and would like to try it you can find all the information needed on the pages beginning at: http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html There are various links on that page that will help you get connected including a step by step instruction page for those of you that use Windows machines.   And there is also another option which you can use and that is going to: http://irc.pipechat.org:8080 and joining us using your web browser. You web browser needs to be able to use "java" which most of the recent ones do. I do have to warn you that connecting via the web browser is a little bit slower than those of us that use dedicated IRC programs. But at least it does give you a means to connect.   Hope to see some new faces again tonight!   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: IRC Tonight - Reminder From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:47:21 -0600   >Since I haven't seen a message from Bob Conway about IRC I thought I >would send one myself.   Oh Well! <G> I guess two are better than one.   Anyway, hope to see some of you later tonight on the IRC Channel   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Subject Headings From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:55:10 -0600   As Sebastian wrote "SUBJECT HEADINGS ARE A COURTESY" I I totally agree.   PLEASE, especially those of you that get the Digest version of the list, make sure that the subject is the topic you are responding to. It is very easy in almost every email client to make sure the Subject line reflects the topic under discussion. And PLEASE, as the topic changes change the subject to match the "current" topic.   Right now we don't have current archives of the list postings but as we work towards moving to a new list server we will be having very up-to-date archives and if the subject line is something like "Pipechat Digest #XXXXX" no one will be able to search out and follow a topic as it progresses.   Thanks   David   -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Popular Tune Sources From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:26:50 -0600   'Whiter Shade of Pale' is more reminiscent to me of the Air for G string or the Pachelbel Canon in D, because of the walking bass.   I always took a phrase from the text of the former to be a literary allusion to the Canterbury Tales.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of M Fox   While Whiter Shade is vaguely reminiscent of Wachet auf, I defy anyone to point to any actual resemblance, harmonic, melodic, or otherwise. (And by the way, I love them about equally.)          
(back) Subject: RE: Popular Tune Sources (Whiter Shade of Pale) From: "Robert Bell" <bobbell@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:00:12 -0500   Hi Glenda and List. This is a quote from Matthew Fischer one of the members of Procol Harem.   "'Originally this song was going to be ten minutes long with various piano and organ solos. We realised that we had to cut the song so I just put all the best bits together in my front room one day.' Pop completists may be intrigued to know that classical music played a key part in forming one of the most distinctive intros in pop. He said, 'I've always loved Bach's B Minor Mass. I never get tired of it. = I first heard it when I was 13 and I'm still listening to it now. The intro came really from that and a few other scraps of music that I liked. 'We did all know that it sounded like Air on a G-string by that point.''       Bob Bell