PipeChat Digest #5315 - Thursday, May 5, 2005
 
Re: Organs in Italy - 2nd reply
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Errata for Widor Symphonies
  by <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Undergraduate Programs
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
James Welch at Cadet Chapel, West Point, NY 8 May
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ?
  by "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com>
Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ?
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Undergraduate Programs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Undergraduate Programs
  by "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: new topic
  by <Joshwwhite@aol.com>
Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ?
  by "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl>
aspiring organbuilder
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
Pipe organs in Baptist Churches (Was: Re: Re: new topic)
  by "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organs in Italy - 2nd reply From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:40:54 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I have just checked the organ at Milan Duomo (Cathedral).   Five manuals, over 15,000 pipes, 185 stops....built by Tamburini in the 1930's? Rebuilt 1983-6?   In any event, the cathedral is something of a "must see" on the scale of desirable things to do in Italy.   Regards,   Colin MItchell UK           __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250  
(back) Subject: Errata for Widor Symphonies From: <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:03:01 +0000   Can someone direct me to a source where I can find the errata for Widor = organ symphonies?   Jon Kroepel  
(back) Subject: Undergraduate Programs From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:36:24 -0700 (PDT)   This is just a snip from the Westminster Choir College catolog on what = they require of vatious Organ students.   Organ major: undergraduate   Undergraduate Organ Performance majors are required to play twice each = semester in performance class. A half recital in the junior year and a = full recital in the senior year, each fully memorized, are required. = Juries are required at the end of each semester.   Organ primary: undergraduate Organ primary students majoring in Sacred Music, Music Education, or = Theory/Composition are expected to play once each semester in performance = class. Seniors must present a half or full recital, as determined by the = instructor and with the approval of the department chair. Juries are = required at the end of the freshman and sophomore years.   Its obvious that some schools have different requirements for someone who = wants to be a performer and competition-winner, rather than an educator, = Sacred Musician, or in another field in music. It's really impressive to = see that certain programs have a focus on training the student for what = that student's desires are. However, in the end, those who are solid = Service players are going to fill the large churches. (IMHO)   Professor Roberts made some very good comments in his post regarding the = desire to make the student well-rounded as a player. I recall talking with = teachers who wanted to focus an undergraduate on Baroque music. One = teacher stated how he "...enjoyed teaching, most, the music of Bach, with = hints of Brahms, Distler, Hindemith, and Durufle". Another so wanted their = students to learn as much Jean Langlais as possible. However, the places = that were most interesting were those that taught repertoire of all the = important composers.The ones that were most interesting also told me the = exact repertoire to bring for Junior recital prep, after auditioning. = (Bach 9/8, Franck Pastorale, larger romantic/modern work, such as the = Langlais Te Deum, Vierne Car. de Westminster or the Dupre Carrillon from = Sept Piece).   It looks like those who are going to school this fall will have a good = time at their chosen schools. We all chose the ultimate place because we = felt it was right...for us .     --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
(back) Subject: James Welch at Cadet Chapel, West Point, NY 8 May From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:27:45 -0400   The concert starts at 3 PM.   Dr. Welch will play works by J. Christopher Pardini, J. S. Bach, Sir Walford Davies, Emma Lou Diemer, Franklin Ashdown, and Maurice Durufle in the first part of the program. The Bach is the Dorian Toccata. [ohne Fugue] The Durufle works are from 1960 and 1962. Dr. Welch made an arrangement of the famous "Solemn Melody" by Davies.   The second part of the program will include variations on several sacred tunes and a group of three rather short secular compositions. Reger fans and Dale Wood fans will not be disappointed. The finale is a 1986 Toccata on "Rejoice, Ye Pure in Heart" by Albert Travis.   In the series of recitals for 2005-2006, Craig Williams, Cadet Chapel Organist/Director of Music has invited Thomas Schmidt and Paul Jacobs.   Info: craig.williams@usma.edu or 845-938-7352 (voice mail)   Hope to see some Pipechatters present.   There was a fine turnout for the April 10 concert honoring the 50th Anniversary of the appointment of Dr. John A. Davis as Organist/Choirmaster, USMA.   Pat Maimone patmai@juno.com   Central Hudson Valley chapter AGO Host of the Region II - III Convention, June 22-25, 2005 http://chvago.org AGO reserved special rate rooms at the Grand Hotel, Poughkeepsie, are going fast.  
(back) Subject: Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ? From: "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:17:10 -0400   Perhaps, and generally agreed, but if one is publishing a book or report whos intent is to list pipe organs, a decision does have to made as to what is a pipe organ and what isn't one. That is what this thread is about.   On 5/4/05, Jim McFarland <mcfarland6@juno.com> wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:18:58 -0400 Charles & Maria DeVita-Krug > <cdkrug@worldnet.att.net> writes: > > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:22:45AM -0700, Andy Lawrence wrote: > > > This discussion has been a bit silly. We're supposed to be > > helping > > > this poor guy figure out how to draw a line. >=20 > Dear List: >=20 > Frankly, I do not believe that a line must be drawn. >=20 > We are way to obsessive about labeling things. >=20 > Jim >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >  
(back) Subject: Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ? From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:25:44 -0400     On Wed, 4 May 2005 22:17:10 -0400 Andy Lawrence <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> writes: > Perhaps, and generally agreed, but if one is publishing a book or > report whos intent is to list pipe organs, a decision does have to > made as to what is a pipe organ and what isn't one. That is what > this > thread is about.       Dear List:     Then the answer is easy. A three part book.   Part One Organs that are all pipe     Part Two Organs that are mostly pipe     Part Three Hybrid Organs     Case settled.     Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: Undergraduate Programs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:35:49 EDT   Desiree: I am trying to determine, from your last few postings, whether you yourself are entering a degree program, and if so, which degree, and at = which school? Since you discuss continuing education, I assume that you have earned = a BA or BM already, but as I recall, you have mentioned studying at three different institutions with several in structors, and I do not recall all = that you have said. Are you entering Westminster Choir College this autumn, and if = so, what is your goal?  
(back) Subject: Re: Undergraduate Programs From: "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:08:22 -0700 (PDT)   Hello Sebastian. I will NOT be entering Westminster CC This fall. I think I will wait to go = there for my Masters in Sacred Music Of course a few months ago, there = was indeed discussion about goings-on at WCC on the lists. I think, that I = will wait until the air is cleared before entering there. However, Yes, I will be rentering school this fall to complete my B Mus = degree in Organ and Choral Music at one of 3 larger universities. All = three universities have confirmed my official acceptance into the schools = of music and the universities. I have options, and I am reviewing them. It = will ultimately depnd upon which gives the best scholarshiping, and which = area gives me the optimum church position. (I am already working on that, = with trips for interviews in the next month). The program that I will more than likely choose is in New England. BUT, = one on the west coast is trying to match their offer. All the schools have = fine organ teachers and are in or no more than 15 miles from major = metropolatain areas with lucrative employment and many fine organs. When I was searching for a school, the first thing that came to mind was: = Where can I get both a strong Organ AND Choral program? That is because my = longterm goal is to be an Organist-Choirmaster in a larger setting. = Mentors who helped me narrow the list were very encouraging to pic a = school with intense choral classes. As a matter of fact, the Organ = professor at the school in New England is also director for an Opera = company in a large city that is singing a larger Handel opera this season, = and he is very well versed in RSCM training. He has guided me towards the = Organ And Choral track, with possible graduation in December of 2006. If I = go next summer as well, I will hold two degrees...a BA in Choral Music and = a B Mus in Organ, with a specialization in Sacred Music. So...i think Im = pretty sold on the NE school. And I have found that many fine edifices are = available for holding recitals. Thank you for your very cordial email!   --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
(back) Subject: Re: new topic From: <Joshwwhite@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 01:04:19 EDT   Nick, This is an obvious stereotype. I have found that MOST of all the Southern =   Baptists in my area have at least digital organs, either Rodgers or Allen. = Some old, some new. But there are pipe organs in Southern Baptist Churches = across the United States. Josh   In a message dated 4/29/2005 5:58:35 AM Central Standard Time, ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com writes: Hmmm. It seems that their are Hammonds in all the Southern Baptist = churches either on the news or written in books. Is that Baptist taste (or lack = thereof) or just a typical stereotype?     Nick   On 4/29/05, Joshwwhite@aol.com <Joshwwhite@aol.com> wrote: In a message dated 4/29/2005 12:03:16 AM Central Standard Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes: This really is an interesting thread, but I honestly cannot see how one = could "stereotype" certain denominations to lean towards certain builders. = Surely this is purely a regional issue. You have left out Moller, Reuter and = others. Maybe I do not understand the point of this thread, however, if any solid =   figures on this issue are available, I would certainly like to see them!         Austin-Pr EMS/AS-EC/Pr Cassavant-Catholic/EC/Meth Wicks-Bap/Meth Ruffatti--RC/ /Pres Kilgen-RC Schantz-Meth   GB <gblack@ocslink.com> wrote: HI list, Does it appear that different denominations go with a particular builder? For example: Hinners built a lot of organs, it seems, for Catholic churches etc. See what happens with this thread. Gary               -- Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: When is a pipe organ not a pipe organ? From: "Maurits Lamers" <maurits@weidestraat.nl> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:50:50 +0200     Dear list,   What is the difference between organs that are mostly pipe and a hybrid.. ?   greetings   Maurits     On 5-mei-05, at 4:25, Jim McFarland wrote:   > > On Wed, 4 May 2005 22:17:10 -0400 Andy Lawrence > <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> > writes: >> Perhaps, and generally agreed, but if one is publishing a book or >> report whos intent is to list pipe organs, a decision does have to >> made as to what is a pipe organ and what isn't one. That is what >> this >> thread is about. > > > > Dear List: > > > Then the answer is easy. A three part book. > > Part One > Organs that are all pipe > > > Part Two > Organs that are mostly pipe > > > Part Three > Hybrid Organs > > > Case settled. > > > Jim > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: aspiring organbuilder From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:32:43 -0700   I would like to inquire for advice about building a career as an organbuilder or service technician.   My first love was organ building. I applied for and was offered a = position as an apprentice upon graduation from high school, but my parents were concerned about that choice, so I eventually entered a college program as = an organ major.   I always loved music, but never had any formal training prior to college. = I studied full time for three years, and then was a part-time student. = After 8 years, I finally received my BMus. in organ performance in 1996. I've been active as a full or part-time church musician since 1982. In = addition to my formal training, I worked for the local organ technician for several years early in my career, and I have served as an organ consultant and principal contractor for several church organ renovation projects.   I'd really like to pursue my original love of working professionally in = the organ building or maintenance fields.   My question is simple: how does one go about getting a start. I have an established household and cannot simply uproot and move. I currently live in the San Francisco area. While I have a good grasp of basics, I know = I'd have to enter at the bottom and work up.   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California        
(back) Subject: Pipe organs in Baptist Churches (Was: Re: Re: new topic) From: "Hell-Concerts@t-online.de" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:45:57 +0200   First Baptist Church in Charlotte, NC, comes to mind with it's fairly large and impressive looking Casavant, op. 3666. There are even CDs of that organ (see OHS catalogue, or Allegro). And, yes, they have hosted AGO sponsered organ recitals. So, it's not easy with "All Baptist Churches", and other steroptypes of all kinds. Hans-Friedrich Hell       -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:04:19 +0200 Subject: Re: new topic From: Joshwwhite@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org   Nick, This is an obvious stereotype. I have found that MOST of all the Southern Baptists in my area have at least digital organs, either Rodgers or Allen. Some old, some new. But there are pipe organs in Southern Baptist Churches across the United States. Josh   In a message dated 4/29/2005 5:58:35 AM Central Standard Time, ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com writes: Hmmm. It seems that their are Hammonds in all the Southern Baptist churches either on the news or written in books. Is that Baptist taste (or lack thereof) or just a typical stereotype?     Nick     On 4/29/05, Joshwwhite@aol.com <Joshwwhite@aol.com> wrote: In a message dated 4/29/2005 12:03:16 AM Central Standard Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes: This really is an interesting thread, but I honestly cannot see how one could "stereotype" certain denominations to lean towards certain builders. Surely this is purely a regional issue. You have left out Moller, Reuter and others. Maybe I do not understand the point of this thread, however, if any solid figures on this issue are available, I would certainly like to see them!         Austin-Pr EMS/AS-EC/Pr Cassavant-Catholic/EC/Meth Wicks-Bap/Meth Ruffatti--RC/ /Pres Kilgen-RC Schantz-Meth   GB <gblack@ocslink.com> wrote: HI list, Does it appear that different denominations go with a particular builder? For example: Hinners built a lot of organs, it seems, for Catholic churches etc. See what happens with this thread. Gary               -- Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/