PipeChat Digest #5320 - Sunday, May 8, 2005
 
Re: Off-Topic: from ELCA List
  by "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: ALL READ! Re: Off-Topic: from ELCA List
  by "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: Casavant Actions
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Edward MacHugh
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
More from Sydney on Organs and Organists Online
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Ebay mistaken identity item
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Ebay mistaken identity item
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Ebay mistaken identity item
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Casavant Actions
  by <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Edward MacHugh
  by "Robert Bell" <bobbell@optonline.net>
Re: Ebay mistaken identity item
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Organs and Organists online update erratum
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Casavant Actions
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Casavant Actions
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Casavant Actions
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Ebay mistaken identity item
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: Casavant Actions
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
UV Protection for Stained-Glass Windows [ON-topic]
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: Open positions
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Austin Organs
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Off-Topic: from ELCA List From: "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 07:06:46 +0800   What has this diatribe got to do with organs? PLEASE we have our own political nuts here. Don't let us have yours too! Bob Elms ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> To: "organchat" <organchat@egroups.com>; "pipechat" = <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 2:57 AM Subject: Off-Topic: from ELCA List     > East Waynesville Baptist Church in North Carolina is making the national > news by going official with the doctrine that being a conservative > Republican is required for salvation. As we all know, political > registration in the first century was determined by choice of animal, > and Jesus rode an elephant into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday. See > http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/050705Z.shtml. > > I was really surprised that this would happen outside of California. It > has long been the practice of evangelical churches here in San Diego > County that if you're a Democrat, you hit the road. This of course is > because of "moral issues". Evangelicals are required to support "moral > candidates" like George W Bush under whose leadership abortions have > increased by 25% in the nation and who has instituted a reign of terror > against the innocent civilians of Iraq. And you have to support "moral > candidates" like porn star Arnold Schwarzenegger who has been accused by > the Los Angeles Times of sexually molesting 16 women. > > It's one more reminder that there are only two wings in the Republican > Party, the Pharisees and the Sadducees. > > Robert DeVries > San Diego >       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 6/05/2005    
(back) Subject: Re: ALL READ! Re: Off-Topic: from ELCA List From: "robertelms" <robertelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 07:16:20 +0800   Sorry! I responded before I read your messge. BE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 4:10 AM Subject: ALL READ! Re: Off-Topic: from ELCA List     > This posting from the ELCA list is completely OFF-TOPIC for this > list. Please do NOT respond to it.     -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 6/05/2005    
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant Actions From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:02:27 -0700   >Dear List, > > I just received my box of Casavant actions that I won on Ebay. I >became fascinated with the Casavant primary modules when I started >taking care of an original 1924 Casavant on ventil chests with these >little units. Now that I have some of my own, I cracked a few open >for a peek. Though the perishables on these units are almost >completely rotted off, it seems to me that the pouch material used >for the primary valve is that very thin intestinal membrane >material... Does that sound right? The actions are quite clever, >though I have to wonder if it wasn't more trouble than it was worth >to build an organ with 61+ removable primary units on each chest, >with their own gasketing and screws (6 each!). Of course these guys >haven't been made in many many years, nevertheless, I plan on using >them for my home practice organ key actions to give them a new >chance at life. > > Best, > > Nathan Hi Nathan,   I see you got them. The membrane is also known as zephyr skin. most organ leather companies carry it.   John V --  
(back) Subject: Edward MacHugh From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:58:26 EDT   Does anyone out there have a recording of Edward MacHugh singing "In = the Garden". Is there a site online with an MP3 or such? MacHugh had a radio show in the 1930's called "Your Gospel Singer". = He was accompanied by two organists that I am aware of - Rosa Rio and Wm. = Meader.   Any leads would be appreciated.   Cheers,   Justin  
(back) Subject: More from Sydney on Organs and Organists Online From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:12:10 +0300   Three more organs from Sydney today played by Michael Dudman at http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/about.htm Firstly Buxtehude's Prelude and Fugue in D major played on the world's largest tracker action organ, the five manual 131 stop instrument built by =   Ronald Sharp. It has 10,154 pipes and 200 ranks. I went to its 25th = birthday party last September and it behaved beautifully. You can see the details = of the organ at http://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/sections/about_the_house/venues/pdfs/techni= cal_specifications_grand_organ.pdf   Michael Dudman's phrasing, rhythm and registration show off the instrument =   and the music to perfection.   Secondly Boellmann's Toccata played on the 1910 III/31 tubular pneumatic action Hill organ in Pitt Street Uniting Church. This particular version = was recorded some years ago. Interesting for those of you who like = comparisons. A photograph of the organ, with the specification, can be found at Mark Quarmby's comprehensive site. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~mquarmby/Others05.html   Finally Guilmant's "Variations on a Polish Noel", best known as "Infant Holy, Infant Lowly" played on another very fine tracker action organ, the III/52 Von Beckerath Organ in the Great Hall of Sydney University. It is = an enjoyable piece, though I think that the Infant Jesus would have had = trouble sleeping through this!       John Foss   http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/about.htm http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/          
(back) Subject: Ebay mistaken identity item From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:13:29 -0300   check this out and get a laugh Daniel http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D73204= 00252&rd=3D1      
(back) Subject: Re: Ebay mistaken identity item From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:36:38 EDT   Hello danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca,     In reference to your comment: check this out and get a laugh Daniel http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D73204= 00252&r d=3D1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   OK, Daniel, I'll bite. What ARE they?   BTW, assuming that everyone on this list is familiar with the inner = workings of a pipe organ is kinda like showing someone who drives a car a brake = rotor and being amazed that they don't recognize it, IMNSHP.   <G> Victoria    
(back) Subject: Re: Ebay mistaken identity item From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 10:00:25 -0400   Hi Vicki, As those of us who are just now checking out the item at the ebay site can see, the seller has added a comment that identifies them as reed pipe shallots. Attach a reed tongue, stick them in a boot, install a resonator, and as the seller suggests, you have an oboe rank, that is if you are a reed pipe expert. Certainly is not an amateur project. Happy Mother's Day to you and all the Moms on the list. Don't know how any of us would exist without you. :-) Cheers Mike   Myosotis51@aol.com wrote:   >Hello danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca, > > >In reference to your comment: >check this out and get a laugh >Daniel >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D16219&item=3D7320= 400252&r >d=3D1 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >OK, Daniel, I'll bite. What ARE they? > >BTW, assuming that everyone on this list is familiar with the inner = workings >of a pipe organ is kinda like showing someone who drives a car a brake = rotor >and being amazed that they don't recognize it, IMNSHP. > ><G> >Victoria > > > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant Actions From: <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:03:58 -0500 (CDT)   BTW, I believe these were probably make by Kimber Allen, and that they = still make them. If you need more, Bob Arndt and Solid State Organ Systems, = also sell versions of the same action. Roy Redman >> >> I just received my box of Casavant actions that I won on Ebay. I >>became fascinated with the Casavant primary modules when I started >>taking care of an original 1924 Casavant on ventil chests with these >>little units. Now that I have some of my own, I cracked a few open >>for a peek. Though the perishables on these units are almost >>completely rotted off, it seems to me that the pouch material used >>for the primary valve is that very thin intestinal membrane >>material... Does that sound right? The actions are quite clever, >>though I have to wonder if it wasn't more trouble than it was worth >>to build an organ with 61+ removable primary units on each chest, >>with their own gasketing and screws (6 each!). Of course these guys >>haven't been made in many many years, nevertheless, I plan on using >>them for my home practice organ key actions to give them a new >>chance at life. >> >> Best, >> >> Nathan > Hi Nathan, > > I see you got them. The membrane is also known as zephyr skin. most > organ leather companies carry it. > > John V > -- > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Edward MacHugh From: "Robert Bell" <bobbell@optonline.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 10:31:08 -0400   Justin, Check with the "Museum of Radio and TV" in NYC. They have archives of old radio programs and might be able to find your recording. Also, Joe = Franklin (also in NYC) is the Master of all things radio. He had a show for = decades. I think his site is HYPERLINK "http://www.JoeFranklin.com"www.JoeFranklin.com You can contact Joe through his site. Hope these help. Bob Bell   _____   From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Justinhartz@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:58 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Edward MacHugh     Does anyone out there have a recording of Edward MacHugh singing "In = the Garden". Is there a site online with an MP3 or such? MacHugh had a radio show in the 1930's called "Your Gospel Singer". = He was accompanied by two organists that I am aware of - Rosa Rio and Wm. Meader. Any leads would be appreciated. Cheers, Justin     -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/2005       -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/2005  
(back) Subject: Re: Ebay mistaken identity item From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 11:55:06 -0300   up untill1998 I probly wouldnt have known what they were either. It takes = a mistake to realize what something actually is. after the mistake and aknowlegement of it, we know more then we did before we made it. thats how = a person learns Danielwh      
(back) Subject: Organs and Organists online update erratum From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:06:21 +0300   An alert Australian member picked me up on a mistake in the Organs and Organists Online update notice this week. It was, of course, the Sydney Opera House Organ on which Douglas Lawrence gave the opening recital in 1979, not Sydney Town Hall. The Town Hall organ, which at that time was the world's largest, was = opened by W T Best in 1890, the year of its installation by William Hill and Son. It is still the largest organ in the world using Tubular Pneumatic Action. So Sydney can lay claim to two world records in the organ field! It was restored over a period of ten years between 1973 and 1982, the re-opening recital being given by Robert Ampt in 1982. It can also be heard on Organs and Organists Online in the capable hands of Mark Quarmby - though these files are in the members area. http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/   John Foss http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/about.htm http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/      
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant Actions From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 11:44:54 EDT   Having restored over a thousand of these block primary, or "distributer" units, I can say with the proper technique, materials, and patience, they = can be restored -- and replicated -- and will work quite well for another half = century.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/   ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant Actions From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:37:58 -0400     On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:03:58 -0500 (CDT) rredman@imagin.net writes: > BTW, I believe these were probably make by Kimber Allen, and that > they still > make them. If you need more, Bob Arndt and Solid State Organ > Systems, also > sell versions of the same action.       Roy:   I think you are speaking of the Noterman's and knockoffs.   The old Casavant primary (from the ventil-chest days) is huge by comparison, wooden, ingenious, and magnetless.     Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant Actions From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:54:58 -0400     On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:44:54 EDT TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > Having restored over a thousand of these block primary, or > "distributer" > units, I can say with the proper technique, materials, and patience, > they can be > restored -- and replicated -- and will work quite well for another > half century.       Dear List:   Sebastian is oh so right! (But then he has a tendency to be that way).   However, I would caution against using any of the zephyr skin available today. (I believe that was mentioned earlier in this thread). It just doesn't hold up. All of the recent samples I have tried tear very easily. I have found 80 year old samples of zephyr which practically defied destruction. (Zephyr is such a pleasant, politically correct label for what the stuff really is)   Does anyone out there know where to get the good stuff?   I have had good results with chrome tanned hairsheep, around .012 in thickness, with a light coat of thin Best-Test rubber cement. (The porosity of the leather is a bit much for this application). For the higher-pressure solo divisions, you can use hair sheep up to .017" except on the very smallest units.   Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: Ebay mistaken identity item From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 11:55:18 -0500   At 08:36 AM 5/8/2005, Victoria wrote: >OK, Daniel, I'll bite. What ARE they?     Well, silly -- isn't it obvious by now? They're the BRAKE ROTORS, of course!! ;-)   <giggle>   --Tim        
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant Actions From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:03:23 -0500   I have restored quite a few of them in my time too, and agree that they = can be restored so that they will give many decades more of fine service. "Patience" is the word -- it is not difficult, but just that there are rather a lot of steps are involved in taking them apart, restoring them, reassembling and adjusting them. When they have been restored you find = that they make for a fantastically fast action.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Casavant Actions     > Having restored over a thousand of these block primary, or "distributer" > units, I can say with the proper technique, materials, and patience, = they can be > restored -- and replicated -- and will work quite well for another half century. > > Sebastian M. Gluck > New York City > http://www.glucknewyork.com/      
(back) Subject: UV Protection for Stained-Glass Windows [ON-topic] From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 15:31:42 -0700   One of my churches has a west-facing, large, contemporary (1958) stained-glass window that is the full height and width of the center area of the organ loft. (The four divisions of the organ are in chambers to the left and right of the window.)   (You can see photos of the window at http://www.137.com/faith/page2.html)   The beautiful window abstractly depicts "Christ the King" returning in full glory. And not only is the window itself incredibly beautiful, its daytime reflection in the massive flat marble slab on the rear (east) wall of the altar is utterly breathtaking.   But, there IS a downside. During the day, it gets as hot as .... well ... "you know where" up there. Especially in the summer. Just imagine what this does to the tuning of the organ, especially the reeds and upperwork.   And the sun's UV rays have been devastating to the organ console, especially the side directly facing the window. The wood has gotten totally bleached out and the sun has been so damaging as to actually have caused the shellac to flake off over the years. The console looks like it's got a bad skin condition.   The pastor is open to the idea of UV treating the window if there is a way to do it without risking doing damage to it.   If anyone has had experience with UV treating stained glass -- particularly regarding methods (plastic film v. liquids etc.), sources for materials, cost, and most of all, success or lack thereof, I'd appreciate hearing your input.   I have done some preliminary poking around on the Internet but the sheer volume of pages that came up on Google was just overwhelming.   Thanks,   ~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ Charlie Lester    
(back) Subject: Re: Open positions From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 19:37:50 -0400   "Merry Foxworth" <m.foxworth@verizon.net> wrote:   >Dear Pipechatters, >Does anyone know of open organist/choirmaster positions in an area within = about two hours of Knoxville? >   I just received this -   >>>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Original Message From Steve Phillips = <sphillip@signalpres.org> >>>Dear Dr. Brock. >>> >>>I am Director of Music and Arts at Signal Mountain Presbyterian Church, >>>located in a beautiful suburban community of Chattanooga, TN. You may >>>perhaps remember me as organist at Cedar Springs Presbyterian from >>>1992 >>>to 1994. I also studied some jazz with Jerry Coker while in Knoxville. = I >>>am writing to announce a full time position that has opened for >>>Organist/Assistant Director of Music. The position requires excellent >>>organ and accompanying skills, the ability to work well with people, = and >>>a desire to serve Christ in a growing evangelical church. There are a >>>number of options for leadership of ensembles as well. Our membership >>>is >>>1900 and we have beautiful facilities, including an unusually fine 40 >>>rank Schantz organ. >>> >>> >>>I would be willing to drive up and interview any students you might >>>recommend. I realize that your academic year is coming to a close and >>>that there may not be an opportunity to conduct interviews on campus, = in >>>which case we are willing to bring talented candidates here. >>> >>> >>>I deeply appreciate any help you can give us in our search for the >>>person God is leading us toward. I would also love to speak with you by >>>phone if you like. >>> >>> >>>Steve Phillips >>>423-653-3589 (cell) >>>423-886-2190 (work) >>>423-886-7199 (home) >> >>    
(back) Subject: Re: Austin Organs From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 19:39:55 -0400   Yay.   >"Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> > >Dear List, > >The news is that Austin is recovering! > >