PipeChat Digest #5331 - Thursday, May 12, 2005
 
my apologies
  by "Christopher J. Howerter" <christophhowerter@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Non-Greek organic words no.2
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
Organ Nonsense
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Organ Nonsense
  by "tom hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Remembrance Day Music
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Remembrance Day Music
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Organ Nonsense
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Greek Organic Feast on Saturday
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: The Wedding from HELL! (A triffle long)
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: improvisation, organ design and standards (digest 5330)
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
 

(back) Subject: my apologies From: "Christopher J. Howerter" <christophhowerter@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:52 -0400   I'm dreadfully sorry that I included the whole thing when I posted.the Pipe-org list was the most difficult address to remember so I clicked the FWD on that and forgot to delete all of the stuff under.my apologies = again!     Sincerely,   Christopher J. Howerter, SPC Organist and Choirmaster Bethel United Methodist Church   Bethel, CT Home: (203) 798-9809   Mobile: (610) 462-8017      
(back) Subject: Re: Non-Greek organic words no.2 From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:12:46 -0700   hopefully this isn't too far away from the spirit of all of this....   For the uninitiated the console is "the organ"   For little kids first visiting a Gothic church in Europe: "That big thing hanging on the wall"   "Hammond" (as in eBay descriptions running something like "Hammond piano-organ (like Farfisa, Allen and Skinner)"   I suspect that Estey became somewhat synonymous with reed organ (not to discredit their pipe organ work) during their heyday like Steinway is associated with piano and Xerox is associated with photocopying.   Ditto for Wurlitzer and theater organs   > Perhaps we should compile a list of all known words for organ? That'd be > great fun, I think! >=20 > -- > Beste helsing / Best wishes / Beste Gr=FC=DFe / Bestu kvedjur >=20 > Jarle Fagerheim >=20 > jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk > www: http://jarle.moo.no >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: Organ Nonsense From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:01:58 -0400   Dear List,   Not to beat this to death, but one more...   I suppose the unison tabs could be labeled sub-super coupler or super-sub coupler?   The posting about the Cadet Chapel organ brought back a story that may be apocryphal, but still funny. Rumor has it that a combination action was designed for the console years ago that recalled all of the stops in the combination one-at-a-time, so each piston would initiate a sort of wave from the first stop to the last. Naturally this was no good, so evidently they modified the action so that the tabs would move at the same time. The only problem is that it took the same amount of time to process as before, so a piston would be depressed, followed by a delay, and then, THUNK the combination would come up. I also understand that the combination machine may have been designed by the military for it!   Best,   Nate    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Nonsense From: "tom hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:13:30 -0500   Gee -- that sounds kind of like the combination action I used to have on an Allen 903-C MOS-1 organ -- the stops in a combination all hit sequentially.   Tom Hoehn, Organist CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS First United Methodist Church of Clearwater 4/9? Wicks/Ruffatti/Rodgers Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes (substitute) 4/42 Wurlitzer     -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Smith <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: Organ Nonsense   > Dear List, > > Not to beat this to death, but one more... > > I suppose the unison tabs could be labeled sub-super coupler or > super-sub coupler? > > The posting about the Cadet Chapel organ brought back a story that > may be apocryphal, but still funny. Rumor has it that a combination > action was designed for the console years ago that recalled all of the > stops in the combination one-at-a-time, so each piston would initiate a > sort of wave from the first stop to the last. Naturally this was no > good, so evidently they modified the action so that the tabs would move > at the same time. The only problem is that it took the same amount of > time to process as before, so a piston would be depressed, followed by > a delay, and then, THUNK the combination would come up. I also > understand that the combination machine may have been designed by the > military for it! > > Best, > > Nate > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >      
(back) Subject: Re: Remembrance Day Music From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:50:08 EDT   The Despair and Agony of Dachau Paul Sifler, California-based composer  
(back) Subject: Re: Remembrance Day Music From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:18:35 +0100   It's a nice idea but, since so many of us do exactly this, every year, why =   'join us' in our tradition?   Stick to what the Yanks do best.   Harry Grove [a,k,a, a traditional musicman] ________________________________   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin A Kolodziej" <bkolodzi@smu.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: Remembrance Day Music     > Dear Pipechat: > > I'll be playing some concerts in the UK during the first couple weeks of =   > November. I was thinking it would be neat to do at least one program of =   > Remembrance Day music. Has anybody performed a program like this? What =   > did you perform? What might be some music appropriate for the occasion? =   > I am always looking for excuses to learn more repertoire, and perhaps = this > might steer me in a musical direction towards which I might not = gravitate > on my own. Thanks in advance. > > Benjamin Kolodziej > Dallas, TX    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Nonsense From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 01:34:55 EDT   IIRC The Cadet Chapel organ, did have an Allen combination system installed for a while. As I could gather, registration was done by hand prior to that. As far as I can tell, I've never seen another console quite like it either built by Moeller. The tabs were quite unique rockers for hand registration. Combination actions when that originally was installed took up a considerable amount of room. What exactly was the situation then when Fred Meyers was there? Pat M. do you know? Did he just wing it with hand registry only?   Just curious.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Greek Organic Feast on Saturday From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:35:29 +0300   There are two notable organ concerts in Athens this Saturday - not so frequent an event in this warm and attractive country. Under the title "Contemporary impressions. old memories" Bjorn Andor Drage =   from Bodo in Norway is the soloist on Organ and Harpsichord, joined by the =   string quintet from Bodo Sinfonietta and MiNensemblet. My Norwegian = friends assure me that Bjorn Andor is a quite outstanding musician and brings = genius to any instrument he plays. The organ in the church is a recently restored = 7 stop turn of the century Hill, a pleasant little instrument, typical of = the type installed in British Embassy Churches around the world during the heyday of the British Empire. Nicolas Kynaston is giving a recital at the same time on the same day in = the Megaron Musiki on the 4 manual Klais organ, an attractive looking = programme which includes The Prelude and Fugue in F minor BWV 534, J S Bach, = Mozart's Fantasia in F minor KV 608, Messiaen's Combat de la Mort et de la Vie, Chorale Preludes by Brahms and Reubke's Sonata on the 94th psalm. If any of you are on holiday in Athens, as well as visiting the Akropolis you could perhaps make the journey North to what some claim is the home of =   the world's first organ, the Hydraulus in Dion - it is, after all, the = city from which Alexander the Great set out on his voyage of conquest and we = have found our own Hydraulus amidst the ruins of the city here on Mount = Olympus. So there is plenty to see and do here in Greece this weekend!   John Foss, basking in the sun on the slopes of Mount Olympus   http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/about.htm http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/      
(back) Subject: Re: The Wedding from HELL! (A triffle long) From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:41:21 +0100   Well, not exactly the Wedding from Hell ............ but !   Last Saturday's nuptials were unusual from the start. "No thank you; we don't want the Church Choir, we've arranged for one of = our own. And we don't need the organist, 'cause "Maureen" will play for = us."   And when I announced the May weddings to the choir one of the (lady) = altos said "Ahh, I know her, she lives locally," and then, learning that = she had rejected the choir ....... "Ohh, the BITCH !"   Then, "Maureen" having (apparently) visited the building (no thought of = making contact and being professional about things - they never do) and = seen the problems with the position and the nature of 'The Beast', = thought better of it and said "I'll play the piano instead ....... and = then, only for the choir pieces; the organist can play the hymns - and = also the 'footling around' before hand."   So at least I was allowed to 'footle' on my own instrument. 'I'm off, I'm on; .... it left me feeling like a bridegroom on his = honeymoon'   Anyway; there I am, in mid-footle, and the choir start arriving; and = she's got a male-voice choir; a large male voice choir; all of them. They occupy the entire west aisle. ! And you know they will be good singers - from the volume of their = talking and greeting each other; it complete drowns-out the footles.   So I establish contact with their MD. "Would you like me to give you the = opportunity to warm-up, to rehearse, or would you like to run through = the hymns with my accompanying?"   "No". "We don't need to rehearse."   OK then. Pistols-at-dawn it is. I don't think that we've ever swung through 'Jerusalem' so quickly for a = long time; and for the chorus of 'Cwm Rhonda' to be held (tenore) for SO = long, for ever such a long time. Still, it's the home-field advantage = and "That's the way we do things round here, folks".   Left to their own devices, they sang nicely enough; but the bride's = arrival to 'Nessum Dorma' was a new one to me and to the Rector; as was = her departure to 'You'll never walk alone' (which I have played for = civil weddings, but not in church before).   Although not the 'Wedding from Hell' - it was 'one hell of a wedding'   Harry Grove [a.k.a. an alternating musicman (i.e., off and on)]   __________________________________ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: N. Russotto=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:39 AM Subject: The Wedding from HELL!     Dear Bandleader:=20   We look forward to your performance at our daughter's wedding.=20  
(back) Subject: Re: improvisation, organ design and standards (digest 5330) From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:22:46 +0300   Today's digest which dropped into my mail box was full of rich pickings! Plenty to discuss here. Firstly, let's look at improvisation, a subject which seems to concern Bob =   Elms in Australia and several members from the US. Bob - have you never visited Sydney? Within a couple of hundred yards of each other are the Cathedral of St Andrew and St James' Church, King Street. Mark Quarmby can =   be heard improvising in the British Cathedral tradition at St Andrew's to = a highly professional standard and David Drury, who was winner of the Tournemire Prize for Improvisation at the St Alban's International Organ Festival, can be heard at St James' Sunday by Sunday. Certainly when I attended a Sunday service there last September his concluding voluntary, = an improvisation, drew together the musical threads of the service - the = hymns and the anthem - in what I could best describe as a set of variations = ending in a double fugue. Outstanding! Melbourne also has organists such as = Douglas Lawrence, Robert Heywood and June Nixon who are skilled proponents of this =   art.   I don't know about the USA - in the UK certainly in my day transposition = was called for in the Performer's Graduate course at The Royal College of = Music, as was accompanying from a figured bass and other keyboard skills. I attended a lecture/demonstration at the Royal College of organists on improvisation by Marie Claire Alain - again, a revelation, providing her audience with many ideas for development. The skill still comes in handy - =   playing music with others is always fulfilling and I spent yesterday = morning accompanying a trumpeter friend of mine working out some possible pieces = for future concerts. Most of these involved my transposing at sight, as we = were working through "alternative" repertoire - i.e. music we thought might go well for organ and trumpet, though not specifically written for this combination.   Quentin Bellamy also seemed to be bemoaning the standard of improvisation = in the UK - maybe improvisation of the concert type is a skill most highly developed by the French. Cochereau, Langlais, Tournemire spring to mind - but listen to Simon Gutteridge improvising a toccata in the French style = at St Paul's Church, Covent Garden recorded at the end of a service 18 months =   ago - I think it was Agnes Armstrong who said it sounded like Dupre! It = was definitely Simon, as I was in the organ loft with him at the time - and Malcolm Weschler, amongst many others, has also commented in terms of high =   praise on Simon's ability to sit down and improvise a symphony. In order = to hear it you would have to be a member of http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/ and go to the downloads section = in the members area - though I have it in mind to include it the EKLEKTIKA "recital" shortly.   Stephen Bicknell's article on organ building in the Europe seems to = suggest that there is no one in Europe capable of holding a candle to the US at = the moment. Not having yet visited the US I cannot comment on that, other than =   to say that I think it unlikely that there are no builders of world class quality in Europe. I do, however, agree with him when he says "The general =   level of artistic quality in 17th and 18th century organ building was so elevated that we who follow barely even scratch the surface". I think you can also move on to the 19th century for quality - Hill, Father Willis and =   Lewis are not to be ignored, though Stephen does mention them, and I am = glad to see him coming, quite rightly to the defense of Ralph Downes - David = Wyld is not being accurate in describing him as a dilettante. Downes was a committed professional musician who completely revolutionised the British approach to authentic performance, and had a clear and informed idea of = what he wanted from an organ, based on the music written for it and the circumstances in which it would be used. He had a thorough knowledge of = the history of organ building and the methods of construction and voicing, and =   was able to deal with the mechanisms of the instrument as well as knowing who was best able to build one of quality. He had one or two eccentric ideas - I still haven't quite worked out why the pedal board of Brompton Oratory is offset from the normal position, though he didn't believe in creature comforts! Maybe this is due to the mishmash of mechanics Stepen Bicknell refers to. But he was a man of integrity and iron will who would not accept the second rate.   And good luck to Chris Howerter for his recital this coming Monday, 16th = May at St. Augustine Roman Catholic Cathedral on Washington Ave., Bridgeport, CT!   John Foss http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/about.htm http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topics of the week : Addiction Stability of relationships Secret ambitions Wacko religions