PipeChat Digest #5366 - Tuesday, May 24, 2005
 
Re: Concerts in Paris
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: Atlantic City Organs (long)
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: hymn (source) urgently needed - ANSWERED!
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
hymn text and Memorial Day plans
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Cost of Allen Quantum Q385
  by "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com>
Sailor's hymn revisions
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
RE: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD .........
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: An enigma wrapped in a mystery - OESA
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Speaking of July 4
  by "Don McClure" <McClure@cc.admin.unt.edu>
Re: An enigma wrapped in a mystery - OESA
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re:Was An enigma now console ergonomics
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
ATLANTA FOX - June 9 - Dennis James accompanies PETER PAN
  by <MUSCUR@aol.com>
Re: Speaking of July 4
  by <pepehomer@aol.com>
Worlds Largest Tracker?
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Re: Worlds Largest Tracker?
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Worlds Largest Tracker
  by "Johan Hermans" <j.h.o@skynet.be>
Re: Worlds Largest Tracker?
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com>
RE: Noehren with "Chivas Regal 1/5"
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net>
RE: Worlds Largest Tracker?
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Worlds Largest Tracker?
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Concerts in Paris From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 05:45:07 EDT   Good morning, Y'all, If you should be in Paris on Sunday, June 26, be sure to stop by Notre = Dame Cathedral at 4 P.M. to hear a recital by Wilma Jensen. She's healthy = again and playing up a storm, so if you can, go hear her play the Widor Sixth. Yours, Darryl  
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City Organs (long) From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:56:28 -0400   Dear Mr. Martenas, List,   Thanks for your reply to my online ciphering about the organs.   >> If more than one curator would be funded, and a reasonable budget for supplies, the $1,170,000 would be exhaused in not much more than 5 years - certainly less than 10. <<   I would think that even 5 years of continuous on-site work by multiple curators would outweigh that of a contractor by far! Of course, that doesn't really answer to what happens after the 5 years. But then again, with the organs alive again (to some degree), they would be more able to earn their keep.   Who was Mr. McGurk employed by? NJSEA?   >> I assume those involved are talking about splitting the money between the instruments because $600,000 will go a long way towards getting the ballroom Kimball operational. Probably not enough, but at least a possibility. <<   I'd guess that the Kimball could be wired up again within that budget. However, I doubt that much else could be addressed, as far as re-leathering and such go. Do we know if the cable was cut between the console and relay, or between the relay and chamber? I would think that the latter would be quite a bit more expensive than the former, just figuring on the number of wires alone.   >> The auditorium Midmer-Losh? If we want to hear it in our lifetimes, many more millions will be needed. <<   Indeed. I'd normally say that it will sound like $1,000,000, but given the amount of money to be spent, we might have to upgrade to $1,000,000,000!   Best,   Nathan    
(back) Subject: Re: hymn (source) urgently needed - ANSWERED! From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:17:37 -0500   Isn't the "keeper" of the cyberhymnal on one of these lists? This hymn isn't there....hint, hint   On May 22, 2005, at 4:01 PM, ProOrgo53@aol.com wrote:   > Bud Clark sent the answer within 2 minutes of my posting the question. > > Who needs a search engine? Bud, you're the greatest! > > Dale > > FYI: > > "I Know Who Holds Tomorrow" > > #96 in Hymns for the Family of God    
(back) Subject: hymn text and Memorial Day plans From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:34:16 -0500   Thanks for all the hymns texts for Melita. I think I will use the one that many of you sent as a fourth verse - the "O Trinity..." one that refers to protection for all "children" in peril.   I don't know what we are doing this week for the services, but I know the anthem is not about Memorial Day, and I doubt if any of the hymns will be. Generally, our observance of Memorial Day is limited to asking veterans to stand for recognition at some point, usually around the time of the announcements or greeting, and sometimes the Scouts do a flag ceremony at the very beginning of the service before the announcements.   Therefore, I like to do something with the organ music to recognize the day - the offertory I plan to use is a setting of Melita. So that everyone in the room doesn't automatically think "navy hymn", I plan to insert the following under the title: Presented in honor of those who answered our nation's call in all generations - In honor of those who returned, in memory of those who did not, and in prayer for those who have not yet come home. "O Trinity of love and power, Our children shield in danger's hour; From rock and tempest, fire and foe, Protect them where'so'e'r they go; Thus evermore shall rise to Thee Glad praise from air and land and see."   The idea being to keep those in other branches from feeling excluded, not to offend the navy folks. But, you know, the navy hymn just has the prettiest, most hymn-ish melody - no offense to all you other guys - and the text is also the one that leans the most away from purely patriotic. It isn't about flag waving; it isn't about God being on our side; hopefully, it doesn't stir the should we be there or not debate; it just says keep our children safe, ( on the sea or wherever) until they come home.   And that is the message I want to slip into an otherwise lectionary service. Okay, so between that and my poppy, it won't be too subtle, but oh, well.   Many thanks again to all who sent me texts.   Margo  
(back) Subject: Re: Cost of Allen Quantum Q385 From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:50:51 -0400   I've only contacted Allen directly once for a price and there is no = way they were going to give me one. All they would do is refer me to my local Allen sales rep. I thought there would be an MSRP also but maybe Allen is trying to maintain some dignity by not attaching a particular price. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com    
(back) Subject: Sailor's hymn revisions From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:21:18 -0500   >From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> >Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:27:21 -0400   >I cannot agree that the 'Sailor's Hymn', (Eternal Father, Strong to save),=20 >be modified, altered, added to, or any other changes made to it.   >The hymn was written specifically for sailors, be they Royal Navy or=20 >Merchant Navy, - and not for Air Force or Army personnel. If a hymn is   >needed for them, I am sure that there are people on this list who are able=20 >to write one, - but leave the "Sailor's Hymn" as it is.   >Bob Conway   But I think this is what's being done. If the text is changed enough, then it isn't the same hymn anymore. And the text is the hymn, regardless of the tune that it is sung to.   It appears to be a simple matter of writing text to match the occasion.   Daniel Hancock  
(back) Subject: RE: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD ......... From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:49:49 +0100   I'm off to see the wizard too!   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Harry Grove Sent: 24 May 2005 07:29 To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD .........   I'm off to see .... David Goode this evening at Birmingham's 'Symphony Hall'.   And for those interested ....   http://val.fancourt.users.btopenworld.com/davidgoode.htm   http://www.necgroup.co.uk/visitor/symphonyhall/symphonyorgan/   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman following the Yellow Brick Road to Brum]     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Re: An enigma wrapped in a mystery - OESA From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:12:56 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I think Jan is correct.   I've also noticed that the EUSA name is clearly visible on the full-frontal photograph of the console, so perhaps America isn't the ONLY country to have an organ with more than 5-manuals.......   Oh dear!   Isn't there one in Italy also?   The problem with Italy is that the Ferraris sound more musical than many of the organs, and they are ALWAYS perfectly tuned!!   Regards,   Colin MItchell UK       --- Jan Nijhuis <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> wrote: > I count a sixth. About an octave's worth of the > leading edges of the > manual are visable at the right edge of the > photograph.   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of July 4 From: "Don McClure" <McClure@cc.admin.unt.edu> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:37:56 -0500   <snip>   > What do you find classy/correct in terms of music > for the last Sunday in May? I guess a simliar > problem will occur on Sunday, July 3rd, or, for > those in other nations when considering how much a > patriotic/nationalistic emphasis should creep into > the worship setting simply because of proximity. >=20 > Chuck Peery > St. Louis >=20 <end snip> =20 For the July 4 -weekend of 2004, I presented: =20 Prelude: Fanfare for the Common Man /Aaron Copland Postlude: Variations on 'America' / Charles Ives =20 I played the prologue, var in F minor, and conclusion of the 'Variations', due to our postlude usage (entire work would be too long'). =20 I will probably do something else this year, but.... both of these were VERY well received!!!! =20 rgds to all... =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Don W. McClure Organist/Choirmaster, St Andrews Church (Episcopal) Farmers Branch TX USA    
(back) Subject: Re: An enigma wrapped in a mystery - OESA From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:39:16 -0500   The six-manual in Italy is the Rufatti in Monreale Cathedral, Sicily.   It seems faily clear that the Montjuich Palace organ left the hands of Walcker as a five-manual, but is it possible that the work done by OESA included converting the instrument to six manuals with a console in the = same style as the original? Looking at the five-manual console in the other picture, as Jan points out, it looks to me as if the corner of a sixth manual might just be visible above the fifth manual. The console, like = the one at Atlantic City, seems to have a music desk that can be moved down = when only the lower manuals are in use, and this may be making the console look smaller than it really is.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: An enigma wrapped in a mystery - OESA     > Hello, > > I think Jan is correct. > > I've also noticed that the EUSA name is clearly > visible on the full-frontal photograph of the console, > so perhaps America isn't the ONLY country to have an > organ with more than 5-manuals....... > > Oh dear! > > Isn't there one in Italy also? > > The problem with Italy is that the Ferraris sound more > musical than many of the organs, and they are ALWAYS > perfectly tuned!! > > Regards, > > Colin MItchell UK > > > > --- Jan Nijhuis <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> wrote: > > I count a sixth. About an octave's worth of the > > leading edges of the > > manual are visable at the right edge of the > > photograph.      
(back) Subject: Re:Was An enigma now console ergonomics From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:21:51 EDT   Dear John: Isn't it Ulm Cathedral that has an extremely large instrument on three manuals. I've always thought that photogenic-ally four, five and six or more manuals is more or less eye candy. People who regularly play these monsters including Diane Bish usually draw couplers and play mostly on the lower three manuals. Ergonomically even if you are tall, the reach for any length of time can be quite tiring throwing the body completely off balance especially if addressing a fourth or fifth, or sixth with both hands. At Atlantic City the seventh manual was pretty much for looks, used as a coupling manual with no pipes of its own. To incline the manuals the way Midmer Losh did really help for one to reach these remote keyboards. I don't know why builders today don't do more of this kind of thing even on three or four manual consoles. It would put the manuals a bit closer together and make thumbing a lower manual a whole lot easier. There were several builders who did this early to mid 20th Century. Why was it abandoned for the most part? Fred Swann made the remark, that the fourth and fifth manuals made a nice ledge to put your lunch bag. <Grin> Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: ATLANTA FOX - June 9 - Dennis James accompanies PETER PAN From: <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:32:08 EDT   Dennis James resurrects the silent version of 'Peter Pan' at Atlanta's =E2= =80=98 Fabulous Fox=E2=80=99 as part of theatre=E2=80=99s 75th Anniversary Celebra= tions   ATLANTA: A Fox Theatre silent film performer for over 30 years, renowned=20 silent film musicologist and theatre organist Dennis James will bring his=20 historically authentic solo organ accompaniment to the original 1924 silent= film=20 version of "Peter Pan" on Thursday, June 9 to the Fox Theatre in Atlanta. J= ames =E2=80=99 debut of his restoration of the original score, commissioned by t= he Walt=20 Disney Co., was a complete sellout at El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood (see=20= =20 http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10001800.asp)   James has restored and arranged the original scores for more than 35 of the= =20 great silent classics, and created new scores utilizing authentic historica= l=20 film scoring materials for hundreds of additional silent film titles. He=20 performs them on annual tours throughout the United States, Canada, Mexico,= =20 Australia, New Zealand, the Near East and Europe. His silent film performa= nces=20 have included appearances at the Louvre in France, the Palazzo Delle =20 Esposizioni in Rome, the National Gallery of Art, and at film festivals wor= ldwide.=20 His most recent commissioned score for Turner Classic Movies, Erich von=20 Stroheim's MGM silent, =E2=80=9CThe Merry Widow,=E2=80=9D is regularly seen= on international cable =20 broadcasts.   "Silent films are a rare and precious art form of tremendous historical=20 importance, and the art of live musical accompaniment to a silent film is a= =20 discipline of equally important historic value. Dennis James is both a musi= cian of=20 tremendous artistic scope and range, and a scholar who strives to preserve=20 and restore this unique 20th century musical practice. He is without doubt=20= the=20 greatest practitioner of the art of solo silent film accompaniment. To=20 witness a contemporary audience experience the beauty and power of silent f= ilm=20 through the overwhelming symphonic dynamism that Dennis James unleashes wit= h=20 unerring skill on the theatre organ is an absolute revelation. He's a natio= nal=20 treasure." Stephen Salmons, San Francisco Silent Film Festival   The New York Times pick for "Best Film" of 1924, this version of "Peter Pan= "=20 was supervised directly by author J. M. Barrie and featured the diminutive=20 Betty Bronson in the title role. She was hand selected by Barrie over sever= al=20 Hollywood superstars, including Gloria Swanson and Mary Pickford. Since=20 Atlanta=E2=80=99s Fox Theater is from the same era as the film, this is a r= are opportunity=20 to "go back in time" and enjoy "Peter Pan" in the movie palace grandeur tha= t=20 the filmmaker envisioned.=20 The time-honored tradition of the summer film festival at the Fox Theatre i= s=20 an experience not to be missed! The Fox Theatre kicks off the summer with=20 the 2005 Coca-Cola Summer Film Festival. This year the Festival offers =E2= =80=9CMovies,=20 Mixers and =E2=80=9CMo=E2=80=9D - a blend of classic and current films show= n on the biggest=20 screen in Atlanta with music from the magnificent Moller theatre pipe organ= ..=20 June 9 show times: 5:45 p.m.- 6:45 p.m. Wine Tastings, 7:20 p.m.; the=20 Mighty MO organ concert and sing-a-long begin; 8:00 p.m. films (with Peter=20= Pan the=20 second of a special Double Feature program beginning with the James M.=20 Barrie biopic, =E2=80=9CFinding Neverland=E2=80=9D starring Johnny Depp).=20   Tickets are $7 and are available 75 minutes prior to each show at the Fox=20 Theatre box office located at 660 Peachtree Street. SAVE $2 PER TICKET and=20= buy=20 a Fox Film Ticket Pack of 12 tickets! Go to www.ticketmaster.com, call=20 Ticketmaster at (404) 817-8700, visit a Ticketmaster outlet or visit the Fo= x=20 Theatre box office. There is no service charge for tickets or Fox Film Tick= et Packs=20 purchased at the Fox box office. =20   For complete information log onto www.foxtheatre.org Listing sent from:=20 Silent Film Concerts PO Box 2072 Tacoma, Washington 98401-2072 USA 253-573-1683   To be deleted from this mailing list, please respond with e-mail request=20 containing REMOVE in the subject heading and sent to muscur@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of July 4 From: <pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:00 -0400   I found an organ arrangement of "Stars and Stripes Forever" that I play = when the 4th of July weekend comes up - it seems to be met with enthusiasm = every year. It's not too often they hear a "common" march during the = postlude! Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA   <<For the July 4 -weekend of 2004, I presented: Prelude: Fanfare for the Common Man /Aaron Copland Postlude: Variations on 'America' / Charles Ives I played the prologue, var in F minor, and conclusion of the 'Variations', due to our postlude usage (entire work would be too long'). I will probably do something else this year, but.... both of these were VERY well received!!!! rgds to all...>> Don W. McClure Organist/Choirmaster, St Andrews Church (Episcopal) Farmers Branch TX USA  
(back) Subject: Worlds Largest Tracker? From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:35:10 -0400   Hello, all What is the largest completely mechanical action instrument, with and=20 without mechanical assists, such as barker levers? Thanks in advance. Nick=20 =20 --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Re: Worlds Largest Tracker? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:16:31 -0500   The world's largest mechanical action organ is to be found in Holy = Trinity Church, Liepaja, Latvia. Built by Grineberg in 1885, it has = four manuals and 131 stops. It was the largest organ in the world with = any kind of mechanism until 1912. I believe at present it is in a sad = state of delapidation and barely if at all playable.   John Speller ----- Original Message -----=20 From: N. Russotto=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:35 PM Subject: Worlds Largest Tracker?     Hello, all   What is the largest completely mechanical action instrument, with and = without mechanical assists, such as barker levers?
(back) Subject: Worlds Largest Tracker From: "Johan Hermans" <j.h.o@skynet.be> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:38:28 +0200   John Speller told about the organ of Holy Trinity Church, Liepaja, = Latvia. It seems to be in a sad state of delapidation and barely if at = all playable. Well, in that case I'd come up with the restored = Walcker-organ of the Cathedral (Dom) of Riga. =20 It also has about 130 stops, over four manuals and pedal, and was also = built in the 1880's. I have performed a recital there back in 1996, = and if I remember well there was a barker machine for the first two = manuals, not for the 3rd and 4th manual.   The organ has been entirely restored not very long ago (at the end of = the 1970's I think) and it's a beautiful example of German Late-Romantic = organ building.   Johan Hermans, titular organist of the Cavaill=E9-Coll organ in Hasselt, = Belgium. www.johanhermans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Worlds Largest Tracker? From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis.jan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:01:41 -0700   Perhaps not so sad after all ... http://www.latvians.com/en/Personal/Features-Trisvienibas/index.php .... if that is a true indication.   On 5/24/05, John L. Speller <jlspeller@swbell.net> wrote: > =20 > The world's largest mechanical action organ is to be found in Holy Trinit= y > Church, Liepaja, Latvia. Built by Grineberg in 1885, it has four manuals > and 131 stops. It was the largest organ in the world with any kind of > mechanism until 1912. I believe at present it is in a sad state of > delapidation and barely if at all playable.=20 > =20 > John Speller > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: N. Russotto=20 > To: PipeChat=20 > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:35 PM=20 > Subject: Worlds Largest Tracker?=20 >=20 > =20 > Hello, all=20 > =20 > What is the largest completely mechanical action instrument, with and > without mechanical assists, such as barker levers?=20     --=20 Jan Nijhuis nijhuis.jan@gmail.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Noehren with "Chivas Regal 1/5" From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:03:34 -0500   I subbed there in the 60s (shudder) and the, then, rector told me the = parish received a bequest for an organ. They went shopping. Aeolian-Skinner submitted a bid for a 12 rank instrument, Schlicker 18 ranks, and Noehren 40. And the winner was,,,   The last time I was there, the most recent rector - in his infinite wisdom = - had the pedal unit Bourdon (the only 16' flue) re-wired from 16' and 8' to 16' and 10 2/23'. Useful? Um, no.   Michael - with 9 ranks at home and 8 at church       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of terry hicks Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:01 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Noehren with "Chivas Regal 1/5"   The church is St. Richard's, Chicago, and why such a gifted organist would build instruments like that still baffles me. It's in a small room with "minus" acoustics, and all those mixtures!!! I subbed a few Sundays there, and put on full organ ONCE during practice just for kicks. I looked up at the pipework suspended over the choir seating and observed the smallest pipes jiggling around in their racks, apparently drunk on the Chivas.   This is a classic case of way too much organ for the space, and the wrong kind of sound to boot.     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: RE: Worlds Largest Tracker? From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:17:38 +1200   >What is the largest completely mechanical action instrument, with and without mechanical assists, such as barker levers? =A0 The Ron Sharp organ in the Sydney Opera House is the world's = largest-ever tracker organ. It is a 5-manual instrument of 61/32 compass, completed = in 1979 after 10yrs work. The organ is 15m high, 13m wide, 8m deep and = weighs 37 tonnes. It has 10,000 pipes from 200 rks of pipes, 127 speaking = stops, 28 couplers, 25 soundboards.=20   Because of the dry acoustics of the building, the organ is not as bold = or as good as it should be, down the main auditorium, but that aside, it = records very well indeed and the sound even at the console underneath is utterly incredible, superb, magnificent, colourful, rich, clear. Just think of = any superlative you like and it'll fit here. I once spent an entire morning = at the console and inside the job and down the auditorium itself with the builder.=20   And in spite of this, not very far away is the unbelievable 5m Hill from 1891 in the Sydney Town Hall, where every stop of the 127stop pneumatic action organ is completely straight - even the world's only 64ft = Trombone is not extended up to 32ft!!!   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: Worlds Largest Tracker? From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:36 +1200   >The world's largest mechanical action organ is to be found in=A0Holy = Trinity Church, Liepaja, Latvia.=A0=A0Built by Grineberg in 1885, it has four = manuals and 131 stops.=A0 It was the largest organ in the world=A0with any kind = of mechanism until 1912.=A0 I believe at present it is in a sad state of dilapidation and barely if at all playable. =A0 We could debate this. Does the Latvian organ have 200rks over five = manuals? Are all the stops straight with no extension or borrowing at all? Cf = Sydney Opera House.   In 1912, was it bigger than the 5m pneumatic completely-straight Hill in Sydney Town Hall?=20   In other words, I'm asking if the Latvian organ has just a tiny handful = of stops which are extensions or borrows or transmissions or duplexes. If = so, it is not the biggest now with tracker action, and was not the biggest = in the world (as Sydney Town Hall organ was) when built.   Ross