PipeChat Digest #5367 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005
 
Re: Worlds Largest Tracker
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Concerts in Paris: Notre Dame
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
Fire in Syracuse, NY
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
Re: Fire in Syracuse, NY
  by "Jeffrey Koehler" <jeffk13057@yahoo.com>
4th and 5th manuals
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD .........
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Worlds Largest Tracker - Sydney/Latvia (long)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: I'm OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD .........
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Worlds Largest Tracker From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:31:28 -0500   The Riga instrument was certainly the largest in the world when built in = 1882, but I think the Liepaja organ was marginally larger when built in = 1885. This meant, however, that for a time Latvia had the TWO largest = organs in the world! I think whether the Sydney Opera House organ is = larger or not may depend on whether you count stops or ranks -- there = are a lot of mixtures in the Sydney instrument. John Brombaugh's = instrument in Southern College, Chattanooga, Tennesee is the largest = tracker ever built in the USA.   John Speller ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Johan Hermans=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Worlds Largest Tracker     John Speller told about the organ of Holy Trinity Church, Liepaja, = Latvia. It seems to be in a sad state of delapidation and barely if at = all playable. Well, in that case I'd come up with the restored = Walcker-organ of the Cathedral (Dom) of Riga. =20 It also has about 130 stops, over four manuals and pedal, and was also = built in the 1880's. I have performed a recital there back in 1996, = and if I remember well there was a barker machine for the first two = manuals, not for the 3rd and 4th manual.   The organ has been entirely restored not very long ago (at the end of = the 1970's I think) and it's a beautiful example of German Late-Romantic = organ building.   Johan Hermans, titular organist of the Cavaill=E9-Coll organ in = Hasselt, Belgium. www.johanhermans.com  
(back) Subject: Concerts in Paris: Notre Dame From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:33:21 -0500   >From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> >Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 05:45:07 EDT >If you should be in Paris on Sunday, June 26, be sure to stop by Notre >Dame=20 >Cathedral at 4 P.M. to hear a recital by Wilma Jensen. She's healthy again=20 >and playing up a storm, so if you can, go hear her play the Widor Sixth.   If you're short on time in Paris, and have time for only one or two concerts, I wouldn't include Notre Dame as one of them--although this is not a reflection on the organ there, nor the organists performing. =20   But the crowds of tourists and visitors is so constant during open hours--even during worship and concerts--that you might be hard pressed to really hear and enjoy an otherwise fine concert. =20   Some of the less tourist popular venues still boast fine organs, great acoustics, and world-class players, AND you can hear the programmes. The crowd control is better at Ste-Sulpice, and I hear that they are rather strict with noisy visitors at Madeleine. =20   Daniel Hancock Springfield, Missouri  
(back) Subject: Fire in Syracuse, NY From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:18:05 -0400   I've just learned that Kerner & Merchant Pipe Organ Builders, Ltd. in Syracuse, NY, was destroyed by fire this afternoon. Kerner & Merchant <http://www.kernerandmerchant.com> ably led by Ben Merchant, is an outstanding regional organ building and maintenance firm, responsible for maintaining and restoring many of the finest instruments in upstate NY, including the landmark Crouse College instrument at Syracuse University <http://vpa.syr.edu/keyboard/organ.html>. We can only hope that this outstanding firm will recover from such a devastating blow. Sad news indeed....   Steve Best in Utica, NY    
(back) Subject: Re: Fire in Syracuse, NY From: "Jeffrey Koehler" <jeffk13057@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:54:28 -0700 (PDT)   As a past member of the East Syracuse Fire Dept, you can imagine that I = was watching and listening to my VHF radio w/ great earnest. I also called = my teacher, Bonnie Derby, to let her know. Needless to say she was very = concerned. Apparently all the wood really fueled the fire, and the = responding depts. in fact had to exit the building and go to an exterior = attack for some time. At 1900 today, as I was on my way to work,I saw that = 2 engine companies still had their booms up and were pouring water on the = still-smoldering structure. The building, it appears, is virtually a total = loss. There was one employee in the building, and he/she was able to get = out safely. Let's all hope for a speedy recovery and good fortune for = Kerner & Merchant. Jeff K.   Stephen Best <stevebest@usadatanet.net> wrote:   I've just learned that Kerner & Merchant Pipe Organ Builders, Ltd. in Syracuse, NY, was destroyed by fire this afternoon.     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: 4th and 5th manuals From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 23:14:40 EDT   I currently play a 4 manual instrument and I use the 4th manual all the = time. I don't find it a stretch to reach up there. When I was the = Organist/Assoc. Director of Music at Calvary Church, Charlotte, I used the 4th and 5th manuals on a regular basis, so when designing the new organ for my church, = I didn't think twice about including a 5th manual. Because there have been some nay-sayers about why we are having a 5th manual on the organ, I did it to = save on the number of floating divisions (it will be home to the Grand Choeur) but = also because we currently have a 4 manual instrument. John Q. Pewsitter = doesn't understand that a 3 manual organ can have 85 ranks and a 4 manual organ = can have 42 ranks. The folks in the congregation see a console with buttons and = knobs and keyboards. To them the more keyboards equals a bigger instrument. Moving into a larger church and talking about a larger organ was going to necessitate us having something more than we had, which already includes a = 4 manual console, an antiphonal division and a chamade.   Being 6'2" might give me an advantage to playing large consoles, but I = don't think a well designed console should be inacessible to shorter people. We = had concerts at Calvary when short people played and they got around the = console just fine. Diane Bish was able to reach the coupler rail without any = problems and it was over the 5th manual. If one can reach the couplers, there's no =   reason why an organist can't reach the top manual on a 5 manual console. = A few months ago I played the new organ at 1st Presbyterian Church, Naples, FL. = The console is very comfortable to play. I wanted to get a feel as to how the =   new Ruffatti console would be for my church.   The Calvary console was always easy to get around on--nothing was very far =   from my reach. The top manual was easy to play, I never had to reach far.   I made sure that the manuals on the new console for my church WERE NOT slanted, because I think that in most situations it makes for poor = technique. Manuals should be flat for proper technique. I hate going to play = recitals and finding three manual organs with slanted keyboards. It drives me up a = wall...I find myself having to adjust my hand positions.   Just a few random thoughts after a sectional rehearsal tonight...     Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD ......... From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:02:45 +0100   So, Will; how was it for you ?   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman who is now planning to perform the Roger for Christmas = - it seems the sort of thing they'd appreciate about then]   For all other Pipechatters, the programme was_   3rd BRANDENBURG CONCERTO (arrangement) JSB PASTEL KARG-ELERT WALDESRAUSCHEN & FEUX FOLLETS LISZT VARIATIONS (PAGANINI) THALBEN-BALL VALKYRIES (arr LEMARE) ____________   JOIE ET CLARTE DES CORPS MESSIAN PASTORALE ROGER-DUCASSE NAIADES VIERNE SYMPHONY 5 WIDOR ____________ Encore STARS AND STRIPES SOUZA       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: RE: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD .........     > I'm off to see the wizard too! > > Will Light > Coventry UK ..... > > http://val.fancourt.users.btopenworld.com/davidgoode.htm > > http://www.necgroup.co.uk/visitor/symphonyhall/symphonyorgan/ >    
(back) Subject: Worlds Largest Tracker - Sydney/Latvia (long) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:15:39 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Ross is quite correct in stating that the Sydney Opera House organ, by Ronald Sharp, is the largest ever tracker-action instrument....certainly by number of pipes.   The number of stops is really an irrelevance, because with many US organs (especially), the actual instrument is often very much smaller than the stop-list might otherwise indicate.....ships are not measured by the size of the bridge!   By my reckoning, and without being particularly accurate, I can see 116 manual ranks of perhaps 56 notes, and 35 Pedal ranks at 26 notes on the Latvian instrument.   As a rough count-up, that works out at around a mere 7406 pipes in total, plus traps and effects.   Now compare this to St.Laurens, Rotterdam, with maybe less than 2/3rds the number of stops.....I work it out at about 7300 pipes....a very big instrument indeed.   The huge Latvian instrument does not have the wealth of upperwork found at Sydney or Rotterdam, perhaps suggesting that it was an instrument very much influenced by the scribblings of Abbe Vogler.   Here is the specification for the organ at Dreifaltigkeitskirche, Liepaja 1885 by Barnim Grueneberg.     Man. II: Hauptwerk   I. Abteilung (Ventil C) Geigenprincipal 32' to G Principal 16' Trompete 16' Principal 8' Trompete 8'   II. Abteilung (Ventil B) Salicional 8' Gemshorn 8' Doppelfloete 8' Octave 4' Gemshorn 4' Octave 2' Waldfloete 2' Cornetti 2-4 fach   III. Abteilung (Ventil A) Viola 16' Clarinette 16' Viola 8' Geige 8' Gedackt 8' Portunal 8' Floete (!) harmonique 8' Quintatoen 8' Clarinette 8' Geige 4' Gedackt 4' Portunal 4'   IV. Abteilung (Ventil E) Flauto major 16' Bordun 8' Flauto 8' Principal 8' Oboe 8' Clairon 4'   V. Abteilung (Ventil D) Gedackt 8' Quinta 5 1/3' Octave 4' Terz 3 1/5' Quinta 2 2/3' Septime 2 2/7' Octave 2' Terz 1 3/5' Octave 1' Mixtur 2-6 fach Scharf 3-4 fach     Man. III: Brustwerk   I. Abteilung (Ventil A) Untersatz 32' ab c Geigenprincipal 16' Viola di Gamba 16' Fagott 16' Viola di Gamba 8' Hohlfloete 8' Gedackt 8' Gedackt Quinta 5 1/3' Viola 4' Hohlfloete 4'   II. Abteilung (Ventil B) Bordun 16' Principal 8' Spitzfloete 8' Fuellfloete 8' Flauto amabile 8' Trompete 8' Octave 4' Spitzfloete 4' Quinta 2 2/3' Octave 2' Spitzfloete 2' Terz 1 3/5' Cornetti 4 fach Mixtur 3-5 fach   Man. IV: Oberwerk (im Schwellkasten)   I. Abteilung (Ventil A) Salicional 16' Gedackt 16' Geigenprincipal 8' Salicional 8' Rohrfloete 8' Doppelfloete 8' Harmonica 8' Liebesgeige 8' Vox coelestis 8' Schalmey 8' Octave 4' Rohrfloete 4' Nasatt (!) 2 2/3' Flautino 2' Mixtur 2-4 fach   II. Abteilung (ohne Ventil) Aeoline 16' Aeoline 8'     Man. I: Echowerk   I. Abteilung (Ventil A) Harmonica 16' Zartfloete 8' Viola d'amour 8' Vox angelica 8'   II. Abteilung (Ventil B) Quintatoen 16' Viola 8' Fugara 8' Traversfloete 8' Lieblich Gedackt 8' Vox humana 8' Geigenprincipal 4' Zartfloete 4' Traversfloete 4'     Pedal   I. Abteilung (Ventil B) Contrabass 32' Untersatz 32' Bombard 32' Majorbass 16' Posaune 16' Offenfloete 8' Fuellfloete 4'   II. Abteilung (Ventil A) Principal 16' Octave 8' Posaune 8' Quinta 5 1/3' Octave 4' Clairon 4' Quinta 2 2/3' Octave 2' Clairon 2'   III. Abteilung (Ventil D) Violon 16' Dulcian 16' Violoncello 8'   IV. Abteilung (Ventil C) Subbass 16' Quinta 10 2/3' Gedackt 8' Dulcian 8' Terz 6 2/5' Septime 4 4/7'   V. Abteilung (Ventil E) Viola di Gamba 16' Quintatoen 16' Bordun 16' Viola 8' Floete 8' Bordun 8' Gedackt 4' Dulcian 4' Flautino 2' Dulcian 2'     Nebenzuege   Couplers: Oberwerk/Brustwerk Brustwerk/Hauptwerk Echowerk/Hauptwerk Hauptwerk/Pedal   Pneumatic assistance to Hauptwerk 15 Sperrventile   Calcantenglocke Turm, Sued, Nord Evacuanten Turm, Sued, Nord Glocke Kirchendiener   Klaviaturumfaenge: Manuale: C - f 3 Pedal: C - d1   Being a tracker organ, their are NO extensions or borrowing on the manuals, but I cannot be certain about the pedals. I do know that cone-valve chests were used in part, so there could be a wee bit of extentending on the pedal organ, but I somehow doubt it.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote: =A0 > We could debate this. Does the Latvian organ have > 200rks over five manuals?     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: RE: I'm OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD ......... From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:58:58 +0100   Absolutely brilliant! Best recital I've been to in a very long while! David Goode's own arrangement of the 3rd Brandenburg was stunningly = good- it deserves to become a "standard" I think, and in no way was in inferior = to a "proper" Bach organ work. The Karg-Elert and the Liszt were delightful. Thalben-Ball's variations = on a theme of Paganini, which is an almost pedal-only piece, was not only a stunning example of pedaling technique but was also brilliantly = registered. The Ride of the Valkyries was as great a crowd pleaser as when Lemare = toured the country with it more than 100 years ago... I've never been very fond of Messiaen- but even this item was almost palatable!=20 The rest of the programme was simply a delight! I felt privileged to have been there!   So, how was it for YOU?   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Harry Grove Sent: 25 May 2005 08:03 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: i'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD .........   So, Will; how was it for you ?   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman who is now planning to perform the Roger for = Christmas -=20 it seems the sort of thing they'd appreciate about then]