PipeChat Digest #5371 - Friday, May 27, 2005 Re: 5th manuals by "Malcolm Wechsler" <email@example.com> Re: Acts 29 copyright? by <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Re:5th manuals by <RMB10@aol.com> RE: 5th manuals by "Glenda" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Music by Podbielski (Was POLAND 3) by "Paul Valtos" <email@example.com> Paging Bill Harris by "Glenda" <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE: 5th manuals by "David Scribner" <email@example.com> An organic spring weekend - finale by "Glenda" <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE: 5th manuals by "Glenda" <email@example.com> RE: 5th manuals by "David Scribner" <firstname.lastname@example.org> 5th manuals by "Roger Whitehead" <roger.whitehead@AES.com> Re: 5th manuals by "John L. Speller" <email@example.com> Headline: Mightier Wurlitzer will grace Memorial Hall by "Jan Nijhuis" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: 5th manuals by "Sand Lawn" <email@example.com> First Jackson (was 5th manuals) by "Desiree'" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Keates-Geissler Shades Mtn. Baptist, Birmingham by "Randy Terry" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Re: 5th manuals From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:31:43 -0400 Shirley says: "I was told to be careful of my 'biology' when I reached over to turn = pages .. . . " Now, isn't that the most incredibly delicate way of putting it? Fortunately, my "biology" never seems to get in the way! Cheers, Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley" <email@example.com> To: "PipeChat" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: 5th manuals > > > On 26 May 2005 at 10:22, John L. Speller expounded: >> >> When I was working in Pennsylvania we had an organist who managed to >> break off a couple of drawknobs with her more than ample bosom while >> sitting down at the console. One of the more unusual service calls we >> had. > > I was turning pages once for someone who was playing the Poulenc. It = was > a > drawknob console. I was told to be careful of my "biology" when I = reached > over to > turn pages so that I didn't change the registration. > > Ahem. > > --Shirley >
(back) Subject: Re: Acts 29 copyright? From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:04:38 EDT Since it originated in Coventry Cathedral, it would be greatly surprising = to me if Keillor could copyright it. It's free on the internet on several = dozen sites.
(back) Subject: Re:5th manuals From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:42:57 EDT Malcolm wrote: Anyway, I'm sorry to hear the performance was a bust. LOLOLOLOLOLOL There was an organist here locally who played at a Lutheran church around = the corner from my house. He was maybe 5' 6" and weighed a good 400 pounds or = so. I know people in the choir from his church and they used to refer to = him as "Stomach Bumps" because during the service, random notes would play from = the organ while he was playing and it was obvious that they were not intended = to be there. The choir used to not be able to contain themselves because it = would happen every week. Part of the problem, besides the more than ample girth = of the organist, was the very cramped quarters in which the organ console was = located, not providing him much room to scoot the bench back, so his = stomach would play obbligato parts along with the hymns and parts of the service, = as well as the Prelude or Postlude. He is no longer there, the church renovated = and moved all the musicians and instruments from the gallery to the front of = the church and the choir has no reason to laugh anymore--and if they do now, = they can be seen by the whole congregation. Monty Bennett
(back) Subject: RE: 5th manuals From: "Glenda" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:11:08 -0500 Where in Birmingham is this organ located? Glenda Sutton firstname.lastname@example.org -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Malcolm Wechsler It's Keates-Geissler, I believe, of cursed memory. There was something of a thread on this very instrument - see, if interested, the PipOrg-L archives. It was a long time ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Terry" <email@example.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > I've heard a story (supposedly true, according to the source) about a > church > in Birmingham, AL, with a 5 manual Keates-Grissley (sic) organ with a huge > console. >
(back) Subject: Re: Music by Podbielski (Was POLAND 3) From: "Paul Valtos" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:43:32 -0400 Dear Colin and the list, I was wondering if anyone knows of a transcription of Faure's "Cantiqu= e de Jean Racine" other than the one by Daniel Taupin as organ solo in other than five flats. As an amateur organist and getting older I used to be able to play and transpose written music from one key to another directly but find that no longer possible. I need the music and no matter how often I listen to the arrangement on CD it does not click. Please let me know if anyone has any ideas or where to go. Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Colin Mitchell" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: "PipeChat" <email@example.com> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:53 AM Subject: Music by Podbielski (Was POLAND 3) > Hello, > > I have struggled a little to find reference to printed > sheet-music composed by Podbielski. > > However, I have discovered that most Polish music is > printed and distributed by PWM, which must be some > sort of hang-over from the communist era. > > I will give three addresses, because there is the > Polish outlet, the US/Canadian distributors and the UK > outlet. > > These are as follows: > > PWM > Al. Krasińskiego 11.a > 31-111 Krak=F3w > tel. +48(12) 422-70-44 > fax. +48(12) 422-01-74 > > Colporters of PWM for America and Great Britain: > > USA, CANADA > THEODORE PRESSER COMPANY > 1 Presser Place > Bryn Mawr > PA 19010-3490 > Tel. +1 610 5253636 > Fax. +1 610 5277841 > > GB > Alfred A. Kalmus Ltd. > 38 Eldon Way > Paddock Wood > TN12 6BE Tonbridge > Kent > ENGLAND > Tel. +44 1892 833422 > Fax. +44 1892 836038 > > > If this doesn't yield anything, let me know. I MAY be > able to dig around in the UK.....we have people who > "know".......someone will almost certainly have it > somewhere. > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > --- SWF12262@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you for a most interesting tour! Polish > composer Podbielski:- > > > > Can you tell me how to obtain a copy of this > > delightful composition? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Administration: mailto:email@example.com > List-Subscribe: <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:email@example.com> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 > > >
(back) Subject: Paging Bill Harris From: "Glenda" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:06:39 -0500 Sorry, I accidentally deleted your post and e-mail address. Where's my Ave verum, sweetie? Thanks very much for sharing the Adoro te devote. Play on through, everyone - pardon my interruption. Glenda Sutton firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: RE: 5th manuals From: "David Scribner" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:37:22 -0500 I'm actually wondering if this organ isn't the one at First Baptist in Jackson, MS as they had a 5 manual put together by Keates-Geissler. It has been replaced by a 5 manual Qumiby using some of the old pipework. Some of the pipe work in that K-G was from a previous EM Skinner along with pipe work from the Royal York Hotel Casavant. David >Where in Birmingham is this organ located? > >Glenda Sutton >firstname.lastname@example.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of >Malcolm Wechsler > >It's Keates-Geissler, I believe, of cursed memory. There was something >of a >thread on this very instrument - see, if interested, the PipOrg-L >archives. >It was a long time ago. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Randy Terry" <email@example.com> >To: "'PipeChat'" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > >> I've heard a story (supposedly true, according to the source) about a >> church >> in Birmingham, AL, with a 5 manual Keates-Grissley (sic) organ with a >huge > > console.
(back) Subject: An organic spring weekend - finale From: "Glenda" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:40:38 -0500 An organic spring weekend - finale To recap, I left a grand total of 1.47 readers in suspense about the details of Alan Morrison's Mother's Day recital. Again, his program was: Suite for Organ, op. 70 (3 movements: Prelude, Prayer, Toccata) - Paul Creston Cantilene - Daniel Crozier Mountain Music (3 movements: At Evening, Quick Dance, Pilgrimage) - Harold Stover Carillon - Leo Sowerby In Mystery and Wonder (The Casavant Diptych) - Dan Locklair Intermission Passacaglia on a Theme by Dunstable - John Weaver Fantasy - Eric Sessler Resurrection - Larry King Tintinnabulation - William E. Krape He walked out in gray shirt, no tie, dark slacks. Sure enough, the Creston was borderline freight-train music, but Morrison was self-assured, knew the organ, knew his music. He made the music seamless with his flawless technique. I know one person who would accuse the organist of being a 'left-foot Linda', but he played an intricate pedal with the left foot while constantly tweaking the swell with the right, which made for a lovely effect. The Prayer ended with just the right amount of tremolo and a nice 32' sound. The Toccata featured rolling pedal, octaves and glissandi. This is such a delightful room, which is half the battle. Daniel Crozier is from Rollins College (I wondered if he was any relation to Catharine). The Cantilene was about as lovely as twentieth-century music gets. There was nothing superficial about the performance -we were way beyond lollipops here. Morrison was a consummate musician, and he built and decrescendoed expertly throughout. Harold Stover is a name familiar to us on the organ lists, and he borrowed from Shaker tunes, some as old as the 1700s, for this composition. The second movement was a quirky hoedown with quite a difficult pedal line. The Pilgrimage featured a repeating pedal motif, and the music became more and more agitated. I was surprised at how much I liked this music, and found myself wondering how my husband Rick would react. You will recall that Rick, for a down-home Southern cop a little to the right of Attila the Hun, boasts much more avant garde tastes in organ music than I do. I think he would have been utterly entranced. I have said several times that I'm not fond of Sowerby, but I will have to recant. I am fond of it when Joyce Jones plays him, and when Alan Morrison plays him. I never heard the Carillon played better - I even wanted to learn to play it, and the mimosas were long gone out of my system by this time. The Locklair piece consists of Cs and Fs throughout. I wrote down "crescendo, decrescendo, toccata", which I think referred to the interior movements. The last was honest-to-God freight train music. The pedal was syncopated, and, well, CUTE. During intermission we sipped cokes and chatted briefly. I was reintroduced to Richard Morris, resident organist and professor. I stayed inside away from the smokers because my sinuses were burning again. Morrison dedicated the Weaver piece to all his teachers and those having influence on him. He was gracious in his comments regarding all those who had had a hand in raising him, including his mother, who was in the audience. I had heard Weaver himself play this piece, but thought Morrison performed with such precision and verve that Weaver would have been proud. The Sessler Fantasy was his first composition, written in 1997. It was some lovely music and some fantastical stuff, ending well. The Larry King "Resurrection" consisted of 'lament, rising, ecstacy and reflection'. OK, this was it - finally a piece on the program that I could not find enjoyable, although it was played well. William Krape is from Atlanta, and it was funny that his name had been mentioned to me just the night before at dinner. It was not a bad piece for freight train music, and worth hearing again some time. The encore was a piece for organ and piano, and his mother came onstage to play with him. I forget the name, but it was all flying fingers, very virtuosic. Afterward we traveled back to Larry's, too tired to go out to dinner. So we munched on delicacies from the fridge and had some good bourbon, talking until late. However, the longer I stayed up the sicker I got. I spent a miserable night coughing and sneezing and wheezing. The next morning I was a little better. I packed up and made sure of my bearings, wishing Larry goodbye and hitting the road. I had promised to take a detour through Carrollton to see the organ I had missed last September, a 2-manual, 20+ rank installation and rebuild by Temple Organ Company. So I sallied forth, and the morning traffic out of Atlanta was not horrendous. I was not feeling well, so I found a McDonald's and ordered an orange juice. I went down the road a couple miles, found another McDonald's and had a second orange juice. I have always felt that orange juice will cure a number of ills, so I felt better fortified to make it through the day. I found Carrollton without any mishaps, a lovely little community. St. Margaret's Episcopal Church was downtown, a lovely pristine white church surrounded by little garden niches with benches and flowers. Dick Burt had warned them I was coming, and Dr. Robert Coe, the organist and retired professor from the local university, was there to greet me. His arm was in a sling, and he was recovering from a broken collarbone (I think), so I did not get to hear him play. But I met the female priest, who was friendly. In fact, everyone from the altar guild to the church secretary was helpful in the extreme. Dr. Coe and I talked at some length about the church, the college, and the organ. I was so glad that I took the time to stop. Temple had managed to salvage most if not all of the original Pilcher, the organ had some lovely solo and ensemble sounds, and the church members seemed very pleased with the end result. I played a few combinations that he liked, and he showed me several that I liked. I tried a hymn improv on Lauda anima, a Bach Trio Sonata, the Mendelssohn No. 3, some Thomas Arne, my favorite Bob Lind piece, and some more Bach (St. Anne). During part of this he had to leave for a therapy session on his arm, and I spent over an hour at the console by myself. I don't remember what else I played at this point, other than most of the Franck Choral No. 1, experimenting to see how close I could imitate the necessary sounds. When I left, I realized that the entire church was empty, and I had no idea how to find the road to Newnan and my interstate exit. No problem, I thought. So I rode around downtown unsuccessfully - the map was inaccurate. I finally decided that I would take the path to LaGrange, a slight detour that would place me at the interstate further south. Suddenly in the middle of nowhere I found my road to Newnan. By the time I got to Montgomery, I was very sick. I had to constantly keep drinking fluids or sucking lozenges, for my throat was getting raw. I had never been diagnosed with strep throat, but worried that I had a case of it. After a small eternity I made it home, and fell into the bed without unpacking. The next morning I was too sick to work, and Rick took me to the doctor, who diagnosed a sinus infection and dispensed drugs. So it was a great time, and a miserable time. I still have a souvenir - the intermittent cough. But hey, one such as myself with an intimate knowledge of Murphy's Law must pay some quid pro quo in order to enjoy these little excursions into organland. It's all relative - no broken bones or sprained ankles, no speeding tickets, no being locked into a hotel room. Glenda Sutton firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: RE: 5th manuals From: "Glenda" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:44:37 -0500 That's what I was thinking too, David. I knew of a couple in and around Jackson, but I didn't know of a K-G in B'ham - if there is, I want to see it next time I go up (which is probably the third week in June). Thanks for the info. Glenda Sutton firstname.lastname@example.org -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of David Scribner I'm actually wondering if this organ isn't the one at First Baptist in Jackson, MS as they had a 5 manual put together by Keates-Geissler. It has been replaced by a 5 manual Qumiby using some of the old pipework. Some of the pipe work in that K-G was from a previous EM Skinner along with pipe work from the Royal York Hotel Casavant. >Where in Birmingham is this organ located? > >Glenda Sutton
(back) Subject: RE: 5th manuals From: "David Scribner" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:05:21 -0500 At 9:44 PM -0500 5/26/05, Glenda wrote: >That's what I was thinking too, David. I knew of a couple in and around >Jackson, but I didn't know of a K-G in B'ham - if there is, I want to >see it next time I go up (which is probably the third week in June). Well, after doing a bit of research it seems that there is a 5 manual K-G in B'ham at SHADES MOUNTAIN BAPTIST dating from about 1990, a rebuild of an Aeolian-Skinner. Guess i should do the research before I spout off! <G> Glenda, I can give you the address, etc via private email. David
(back) Subject: 5th manuals From: "Roger Whitehead" <roger.whitehead@AES.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 03:16:06 -0000 >I'm=20all=20for=205=20manual=20trackers,=20where=20only=20the=20bottom >three=20work. >I=20find=20that=20with=205-manuals,=20it's=20possible=20to=20really >spread=20open=20the=20Sunday=20Newspaper=20during=20the=20sermon, >and=20get=20on=20with=20the=20crossword. How=20about=20rolled-up=20newspapers=20to=20reach=20the=20stops? (e.g.=20Mary=20Vogt(sp?)=20at=20Wanamaker's) ________________________________________________________________________ This=20communication=20is=20for=20use=20by=20the=20intended=20recipient=20= and=20contains=20information=20that=20may=20be=20privileged,=20confidentia= l=20or=20copyrighted=20under=20law.=20If=20you=20are=20not=20the=20intende= d=20recipient,=20you=20are=20hereby=20formally=20notified=20that=20any=20u= se,=20copying=20or=20distribution=20of=20this=20e-Mail,=20in=20whole=20or=20= in=20part,=20is=20strictly=20prohibited.=20Please=20notify=20the=20sender=20= by=20return=20e-Mail=20and=20delete=20this=20e-Mail=20from=20your=20system= ..=20Unless=20explicitly=20and=20conspicuously=20stated=20in=20the=20subjec= t=20matter=20of=20the=20above=20e-Mail,=20this=20e-Mail=20does=20not=20con= stitute=20a=20contract=20offer,=20a=20contract=20amendment,=20or=20an=20ac= ceptance=20of=20a=20contract=20offer.=20This=20e-Mail=20does=20not=20const= itute=20consent=20to=20the=20use=20of=20sender's=20contact=20information=20= for=20direct=20marketing=20purposes=20or=20for=20transfers=20of=20data=20t= o=20third=20parties. This=20email=20has=20been=20scanned=20for=20all=20viruses=20by=20the=20Mes= sageLabs=20service.
(back) Subject: Re: 5th manuals From: "John L. Speller" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:08:54 -0500 The K-G at 1st. Baptist, Jackson, has now been replaced with a new Quimby Pipe Organ, incorporating some of the Skinner and Casavant pipework from previous organs. For details see http://www.quimbypipeorgans.com/1bptsjackson.htm and http://www.quimbypipeorgans.com/1bptsjackpics.htm John Speller ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scribner" <email@example.com> To: "PipeChat" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: RE: 5th manuals > At 9:44 PM -0500 5/26/05, Glenda wrote: > >That's what I was thinking too, David. I knew of a couple in and = around > >Jackson,
(back) Subject: Headline: Mightier Wurlitzer will grace Memorial Hall From: "Jan Nijhuis" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:52:16 -0700 Surfing the net, I found this (of interest) story. <abstract> Renovation provides new home for a big player in city's history By Janelle Gelfand Enquirer staff writer The Mighty Wurlitzer's home was the Emery Theater from 1977 to 1999. A planned $3.5 million makeover for Memorial Hall will help save a piece of Cincinnati's history. <link> http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20050526/LIFE/50526= 0337/-1/CINCI --=20 Jan Nijhuis firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: Re: 5th manuals From: "Sand Lawn" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 00:07:18 -0500 Keates-Geissler actually built four (4) five manual organs for Southern Baptist Churches a few years ago. 1st Baptist, Dallas, TX .... 5/149.... = it never worked well enough for the dedication advertised in TAO. Shades Mountain Baptist, Birmingham, AL ..... 5/167 ..... a rebuild of Aeolian-Skinner, #1520. Dauphin Way Baptist, Mobile, AL ..... 5/147. 1st Baptist, Jackson, MS.... 5/237. This was the famous 1940 E.M.Skinner. = It's a bit of trivia..... but useful every now and then. Sand Lawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scribner" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: "PipeChat" <email@example.com> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: RE: 5th manuals > I'm actually wondering if this organ isn't the one at First Baptist in > Jackson, MS as they had a 5 manual put together by Keates-Geissler. It > has been replaced by a 5 manual Qumiby using some of the old pipework.
(back) Subject: First Jackson (was 5th manuals) From: "Desiree'" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:39:59 -0700 (PDT) With Jackson being home, I remember hearing and playing the = Keates-Geissler 5-Man at FBC Jackson. Tons of friends from Mississippi = College called "First Jackson" home. (MC is the SBC College in the greater = Jackson area)., Many people (my mentors) back home would marvel over = memories of the EM Skinner that was housed in First Jackson, prior to the = K-G. They all say it was the "Magnolia Tree" of the town. Some back home = felt that the church would have gained more by simply re-building the EMS, = in an open design (similar to what the Syracuse Holtkamp is) with = additions of other vintage Skinner pipes. Probeably the eldest mentor to any of us young organists in Jackson was = (the very talented and Columbia University educated) Mary Taylor Sigman, = Organist-Emerita of Galloway Memorial UMC (IV/Cass./1996) She tells = stories of when she was 12 or 13 and she went over to meet EM Skinner = while he was installing the organ at Frist Baptist. She recalled "MR = Skinner had hair as white as snow!". Many other Jackson veterans (Bill = Wymond of First Pres, Biully Trotter Pref. Em. at MC and Organist at = Northmisnter Bapt. and others) always said how they wished FBCJax had just = kept the Skinner without K-G coming into the picture. It seems that K-G built a little "Belt and buckle" of 5 Manual organs in = Baptist churches. Dallas, Jackson, Birmingham, and Mobile. Rick Land was = the consultant for FBC Jackson. I don't know if he was for the others. TDH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Keates-Geissler Shades Mtn. Baptist, Birmingham From: "Randy Terry" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:47:23 -0700 To those interested in the Shades Mtn. Baptist organ, I have not played = it, but I did play the A-S in the old building. That organ was one of the = last A-S instruments to make it out of the plant, and the plywood console says = a lot about the way it was put together. It was reliable enough, but tonally, it was quite mundane, just like so = many other instruments from the 70's - no character (good or bad) of Aeolian-Skinner sound. My professor played a concert on the Keates organ. He would not comment = on the instrument tonally. The Antiphonal is mostly digital, and I've heard local organists say it is pretty lean sounding. I don't think it has been plagued by the same problems the Jackson organ had, though. For those of you interested in the best instruments in Birmingham, AL, I offer the following as must see instruments: Independent Presbyterian Church - 1969 Aeolian-Skinner, with much pipework from the former 1925 EMS installation. In recent years the instrument was revoiced by John Hendriksen to be more true to the A-S style. Beautiful church! About 87 ranks. St. Luke's Episcopal - 1962 Walter Holtkamp, 50-some ranks, fabulous acoustics. This one sparkles! Episcopal Cathedral of the Advent - 1988 Moller (Angerstien) 4/100 ranks, about half from EMS opus 779, 1929 (a handful of stops from the A-S = formerly at Trinity College, Hartford.) This is a very nice, broad, modern instrument with independent pairs of 16-8-4 strings in the solo, along = with all EM's choice solo ranks and the 32' Bombarde from 779. Roman Catholic Cathedral - 1986 Moller (Gillette) 4/70 (?) This is fully encased in the rear gallery of an acoustically splendid building - nice sound with great 32's - real pipes. There was at one time a 2 or 3 rank chancel division which I think has been moved to a chapel, so they list it as three manuals, but the console is 4, with the big reed only on man. 4. Briarwood Presbyterian - Big late 80's Casavant in a good room, 4/76 (?) Local Universities are blessed with some nice instruments - there are several Beckeraths at Samford Univ, Baptist, along with a big Whiteford = A-S. Birmingham-Southern, Methodist, has a big Casavant tracker. There is a = small 1960 Flentrop at Univ. of Montevallo with a Ruckpositiv, along with a big Holtkamp E-P, and of course the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa has a large and wonderful Holtkamp tracker in a fabulous hall - if you go there, there is a smallish Schlicker in the gallery of a smaller hall that is charming. Oh, must see the 21 rank Wurlitzer (original installation, restored) in = the Alabama Theatre. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California