PipeChat Digest #5373 - Saturday, May 28, 2005
 
Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)
  by "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com>
Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)
  by "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net>
RE: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Keates-Geissler in the South
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F
  by "jonkroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com>
Re: Keates-Geissler in the South
  by "Johan Hermans" <j.h.o@skynet.be>
Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Unenclosed celestes
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net>
test - delete
  by "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net>
New OHS Database On-Line
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Books at last
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@millersville.edu>
RE: Keates-Geissler in the South
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Keates-Geissler in the South
  by "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com>
Barry Baker Plays RTOS Wurlitzer Saturday evening (cross-posted)
  by "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F
  by "TGrenz" <octaaf@charter.net>
Mozart K608
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Mozart K608
  by "Johan Hermans" <j.h.o@skynet.be>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) From: "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:40:50 -0400   Why must we always ask "what would necessitate?" Are we so uncreative as to not be able to imagine a way to use this? I'm not a very good organist and I'm pretty sure I could make use of it. Andy   On 5/27/05, tlevans95@charter.net <tlevans95@charter.net> wrote: > Ok, now we've established they do exist elsewhere. What would necessitat= e an unenclosed celeste? >=20 > Travis > > > > From: M Fox <ophicleide16@direcway.com> > > Date: 2005/05/27 Fri PM 12:58:00 EDT > > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Subject: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) > > > > Both St.-Sulpice and Notre-Dame have an Unda Maris in their unenclosed > > Positif divisions, both dating from the original Cavaill=E9-Coll stopli= st. > > > > MAF > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <tlevans95@charter.net> > > > > > In looking at the specification for the K-G at First Baptist in Jacks= on I > > > noticed a Celeste on the unenclosed great. I don't think I've ever > > > personally seen an unenclosed celeste. Has anyone ever seen one?? > > > > > > Trav >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >  
(back) Subject: Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) From: "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:54:52 -0500   Well I'd like to hear what others would do with it. Most likely I'll = learn someother way of doing it instead of just my way all of the time.   Travis   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lawrence" <lawrenceandy@gmail.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)     Why must we always ask "what would necessitate?" Are we so uncreative as to not be able to imagine a way to use this? I'm not a very good organist and I'm pretty sure I could make use of it. Andy   On 5/27/05, tlevans95@charter.net <tlevans95@charter.net> wrote: > Ok, now we've established they do exist elsewhere. What would = necessitate an unenclosed celeste? > > Travis > > > > From: M Fox <ophicleide16@direcway.com> > > Date: 2005/05/27 Fri PM 12:58:00 EDT > > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Subject: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) > > > > Both St.-Sulpice and Notre-Dame have an Unda Maris in their unenclosed > > Positif divisions, both dating from the original Cavaill=E9-Coll = stoplist. > > > > MAF > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <tlevans95@charter.net> > > > > > In looking at the specification for the K-G at First Baptist in Jackson I > > > noticed a Celeste on the unenclosed great. I don't think I've ever > > > personally seen an unenclosed celeste. Has anyone ever seen one?? > > > > > > Trav > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: RE: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:16:27 +1200   >The Italian principal celeste is called "Voce Umana" (definitely not = the same as "Vox Humana" which is a reed).=A0 It's not enclosed and it never = was. =A0 Or "Fiffaro".   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: Keates-Geissler in the South From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:05:51 -0500   Maybe in my next book I'll have exploding or flying drawknobs - that is a good idea, Travis and Monty. Of course, I'm filling in the gaps in the current one - perhaps a sub job with drawknob missiles. Let me think about it.   Thinking about another research trip to Atlanta - still searching for that elusive fatal rear gallery,   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Travis L. Evans Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:14 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Keates-Geissler in the South   How funny. Hey Glenda, maybe you could work that into your story, have a poisoned dart in one of the drawknobs as an attempt on someones life. Hit a piston and BAM might get a dart in the neck.        
(back) Subject: Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F From: "jonkroepel" <jonkroepel@insightbb.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:20:51 -0500   A person must choose a tempo where he/she can control the articulation = and play the right notes. It would be hard to find a group of people = who will agree on a tempo. Examine the harmonic rhythm and the = acoustics in a given room then decide on an appropriate tempo.   Jon Kroepel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Desiree'=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F     I have been in long-distance contact with my soon-to-be Organ = professor about repertoire for the coming year. Of course, the recital = plans include a larger Bach Prelude and Fugue that "becomes (you) as a = player" per the professor. I have chosen the great B Minor P/F. Its one = of my favorite of the Larger P/F's of Bach.That one, the 9/8, the G = major, and the D major are, to me, the most effective of the large = P/F's. This is also one of the large Bach works that my current teacher = feels is most effective, and well written.=20   For those on the list who play this lovely work, what do you have to = say about tempo? I like hearing it on the slower side. I recall someone = mentioning a well-known organist playing it on the rapid side.=20   Thanks in advance for comments TDH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20  
(back) Subject: Re: Keates-Geissler in the South From: "Johan Hermans" <j.h.o@skynet.be> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:28:52 +0200   Glenda,   do you have somewhere a list with your books ? And what's your main profession ? Just a few days ago you told us that you play quite = difficult pieces such Bach's "St. Anne" and Franck/Choral I.   Some years ago a Hamburg lawyer was assisting me during my recital at Hamburg Cathedral. He told me afterwords how he sometimes was practicing Bach's h-minor Prelude and Fuge on his desk during office time. One of = my own former students ended up in bank company after having earned his master's in organ performance ...   Johan Hermans, Belgium    
(back) Subject: Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:35:09 EDT   Desiree wrote: For those on the list who play this lovely work, what do you have to say about tempo? I like hearing it on the slower side. I recall someone = mentioning a well-known organist playing it on the rapid side.     Should you not start working on literature under the tutelage of your new professor or at least under the guidance of your current instructor? They = would be the best to guide you as to the tempo. While you are learning the = piece, performance tempo really shouldn't be of much concern, rhythmic accuracy = and playing all the correct notes should, as well as correct performance = practice. Tempo can always be (and should be) adjusted to the instrument, the room, = and even the effect that you're trying to achieve.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Unenclosed celestes From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:43:39 EDT   The Moller at Calvary Church Charlotte has two unenclosed celestes, the Principal/Schwebung in the Positiv and a Spitz Flote/Spitz Flote Celeste = in Ancillary I.   An unenclosed celeste is just another color--we always tend to think of = the accompanimental role on the Swell or Choir manual, but in Italian music, = the Voce Umana was used for the elevation toccata and those warm prinicpal = celestes are never enclosed. It's not an effect that one would use all the time, = but when you've built up "Full Slush" and need some extra juice, those = unenclosed celestes are great. When used in a chorus of all 8' foundations, it = warms up the sound nicely. Enclosed celestes are definitely more useful, but for something a little different, it's kind of fun.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: RE: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:04:37 -0500   There's an un-enclosed flute celeste on the mongrel positif of an = Episcopal church here in Chicago. It's a lovely stop - one of the more useful on = the organ.   Nothing "necessitates it.   Michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of tlevans95@charter.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:35 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler)   Ok, now we've established they do exist elsewhere. What would = necessitate an unenclosed celeste?   Travis >=20 > From: M Fox <ophicleide16@direcway.com> > Date: 2005/05/27 Fri PM 12:58:00 EDT > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) >=20 > Both St.-Sulpice and Notre-Dame have an Unda Maris in their unenclosed =   > Positif divisions, both dating from the original Cavaill=E9-Coll = stoplist. >=20 > MAF >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: <tlevans95@charter.net> >=20 > > In looking at the specification for the K-G at First Baptist in = Jackson I=20 > > noticed a Celeste on the unenclosed great. I don't think I've ever=20 > > personally seen an unenclosed celeste. Has anyone ever seen one?? > > > > Trav      
(back) Subject: test - delete From: "Randy Terry" <randy@peacham.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:07:06 -0700   Test - delete   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Randy Terry Music Minister The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California        
(back) Subject: New OHS Database On-Line From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:22:17 -0500   For close to the last year there has been a project going on to create a database of North American Organs from the various records that have been collected over the years by the Database Committee of the OHS. This morning at the American Organ Archives Symposium being held in New Jersey the database was officially unveiled. It is located at: http://organsociety.bsc.edu   Several members of the PipeChat list including Sand Lawn, George Nelson and myself have been involved with this project and are all happy to see this come to the point where it is available for everyone. The person that was the biggest contributor to this on-line was James Cook from Birmingham-Southern College in Alabama who did this project as his research project on his Sabbatical leave.   Many of the records go back several decades, so if you find an entry that needs updating, just click on the button at the bottom of the page and send us your corrections, additions, deletions, and whatever you need us to know. We need especially to have people with knowledge about instruments not currently in the database to add them. I especially encourage organ builders and organ technicians to add the work of their firm and the organs that they take care of to this resource.   There's also a virtual Suggestion Box on the "Contact Us" page, so please let the OHS Database Committee know what we can do to improve the site.   Although this database is primarily devoted to organs in the US there are instruments in Canada listed in it. And there are links to other organ databases on the web.   All of us on the OHS Database Committee hope that everyone will find this a worthwhile resource and will help to expand and correct it.   For the OHS Database Committee David Scribner  
(back) Subject: Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:32:12 EDT     In a message dated 5/27/05 6:35:38 PM, RMB10@aol.com writes:     > Desiree wrote: > For those on the list who play this lovely work, what do you have to say > about tempo? I like hearing it on the slower side. I recall someone=20 > mentioning a > well-known organist playing it on the rapid side. >=20 >=20 > Should you not start working on literature under the tutelage of your new > professor or at least under the guidance of your current instructor?=A0 Th= ey=20 > would > be the best to guide you as to the tempo.=A0 While you are learning the pi= ece, > performance tempo really shouldn't be of much concern, rhythmic accuracy a= nd > playing all the correct notes should, as well as correct performance=20 > practice.=A0 > Tempo can always be (and should be) adjusted to the instrument, the room,=20 > and > even the effect that you're trying to achieve. >=20   Desiree- I must agree with Monty and Jon-what difference does performance tempo matte= r=20 if you don't know the notes? As with any large work-It takes MONTHS if not= =20 years to master them. For the Bach b minor, I suggest setting the metronom= e=20 to 44--being the 16th note---practicing phrase by phrase--WRITING IN=20 FINGERINGS-and playing with SUPER clean articulation. This music is not t= o be taken=20 lightly-every move you make must be deliberate and calculated-or else the en= d=20 result will be depressingly mediocre. Shoot to learn one page, WELL- at=20= 44=20 per practice session. =20 Good luck greg         Gregory F. Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net    
(back) Subject: Books at last From: "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:33:35 -0500   Posted on behalf of Dr. Henderson   Dear list,   After what seems like years of waiting, printing of the new edition of my book is now complete with delivery scheduled next week. Orders should be fulfilled by the following week but as over 100 are already pre-ordered it will take a little time to pack and post them all. Shipments to the USA usually take 7-10 days. Thanks for your patience, there are already new dates anda few Errata on my web pages.   John   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr.John C.Henderson ARSCM Hon.Librarian, Royal School of Church Music Author of "A Directory of Composers for Organ" http://www.organcomposers.com/      
(back) Subject: Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@millersville.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:44:23 -0400   M.M. 76 & 104 respectively.   Yes, not too fast for either movement and with enough time for lots of =B3line=B2 in both movements.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   On 5/27/05 6:14 PM, "Desiree'" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote:   > I have been in long-distance contact with my soon-to-be Organ professor a= bout > repertoire for the coming year. Of course, the recital plans include a la= rger > Bach Prelude and Fugue that "becomes (you) as a player" per the professor= .. I > have chosen the great B Minor P/F. Its one of my favorite of the Larger P= /F's > of Bach.That one, the 9/8, the G major, and the D major are, to me, the m= ost > effective of the large P/F's. This is also one of the large Bach works th= at my > current teacher feels is most effective, and well written. > =20 > For those on the list who play this lovely work, what do you have to say = about > tempo? I like hearing it on the slower side. I recall someone mentioning = a > well-known organist playing it on the rapid side. > =20 > Thanks in advance for comments > TDH    
(back) Subject: RE: Keates-Geissler in the South From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:50:39 -0500   Thanks for your inquiry, Johan. I am a bona fide attorney, having done some of almost all kinds of law except securities reg for 19 years (oh, my God - it will be 20 in October) in the hot state of Florida. I have three complete novels, if not completed, and the vestiges of a sequel. I leave them in the deep freeze for a while and go back to them, in order to try to find the glitches and gaps.   All three happen to involve organists. In two the protagonist is an organist/attorney, like me. But not me.   I haven't had the time or energy to look for an editor or an agent. Hell, I haven't found anyone willing to commit to read past chapter 1.   I have no organ degrees - am totally amateur. All my training has been through private lessons at retail value - 8+ years at piano, 6+ years at organ. I work at it, get quite good (relatively speaking), then forsake it, becoming quite bad. About the time I start to quit for good, someone asks me to do something like a church gig or a Pedals, Pipes and Pizza, and then I get hooked again. It doesn't pay as much an hour as the daytime job. But yes, I have been known to throw around the Bach and Franck with gusto.   I'm sure that's more than you wanted to know. Thanks.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Johan Hermans Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:29 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Keates-Geissler in the South   Glenda,   do you have somewhere a list with your books ? And what's your main profession ? Just a few days ago you told us that you play quite difficult pieces such Bach's "St. Anne" and Franck/Choral I.        
(back) Subject: Re: Keates-Geissler in the South From: "N. Russotto" <ravenrockdesigns@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:33:06 -0400   Hey, Glenda. . .=20 They don't call me "Mr. English" for nothing. I would be happy to take a= =20 look at your novels and commit to reading them all! I would enjoy them=20 greatly. I think I have a friend in publishing... Do email me off-list, and I would hope that you can send me up a copy of= =20 one of your masterpieces. Nick   On 5/27/05, Glenda <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote:=20 >=20 > Thanks for your inquiry, Johan. I am a bona fide attorney, having done > some of almost all kinds of law except securities reg for 19 years (oh, > my God - it will be 20 in October) in the hot state of Florida. I have > three complete novels, if not completed, and the vestiges of a sequel. > I leave them in the deep freeze for a while and go back to them, in > order to try to find the glitches and gaps. >=20 > All three happen to involve organists. In two the protagonist is an > organist/attorney, like me. But not me. >=20 > I haven't had the time or energy to look for an editor or an agent. > Hell, I haven't found anyone willing to commit to read past chapter 1. >=20 > I have no organ degrees - am totally amateur. All my training has been > through private lessons at retail value - 8+ years at piano, 6+ years at > organ. I work at it, get quite good (relatively speaking), then forsake > it, becoming quite bad. About the time I start to quit for good, > someone asks me to do something like a church gig or a Pedals, Pipes and > Pizza, and then I get hooked again. It doesn't pay as much an hour as > the daytime job. But yes, I have been known to throw around the Bach > and Franck with gusto. >=20 > I'm sure that's more than you wanted to know. Thanks. >=20 > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Johan Hermans > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:29 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Keates-Geissler in the South >=20 > Glenda, >=20 > do you have somewhere a list with your books ? And what's your main > profession ? Just a few days ago you told us that you play quite > difficult > pieces such Bach's "St. Anne" and Franck/Choral I. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20     --=20 Nicholas F. Russotto Somers, Connecticut Organist, Holy Cross PNCC Enfield, Connecticut Moderator/Owner: Monarch of Music=20 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/monarch_of_music/  
(back) Subject: Barry Baker Plays RTOS Wurlitzer Saturday evening (cross-posted) From: "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:34:23 -0400   A reminder that the popular theater organist Barry Baker will entertain us =   by playing the RTOS Wurlitzer 4/23 this Saturday, May 28 at 8 PM. This = event will take place at the NEW Auditorium Theatre, 885 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605.   Admission for non-members is only $15 each with ticket sales starting at 7 =   PM on the evening of the concert. Please join us for a great evening of music that closes our 2004/2005 fall/winter/spring season.   For more information and driving directions please visit our home on the = web at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ or at http://RochesterTheaterOrganSociety.org . See you at the "Aud".   Submitted by: Ken Evans, RTOS Director (past-President)      
(back) Subject: Re: Unenclosed celestes (was 5th manuals-Keates-Geissler) From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:04:58 EDT   In a message dated 5/27/05 4:10:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TheShieling@xtra.co.nz writes:   > >The Italian principal celeste is called "Voce Umana" (definitely not = the > same as "Vox Humana" which is a reed). It's not enclosed and it never = was. > > Or "Fiffaro".   ah. PIFFARO was the term i couldn't think of...   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: Tempo and the Bach B Minor P/F From: "TGrenz" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:21:58 -0500   Desiree wrote: "For those on the list who play this lovely work, what do = you have to say about tempo?"   Desiree,   Assuming that you are in the beginning stages of learning the B minor = P&F, I wouldn't worry about tempo much. This is a difficult work to = master both technically and interpretively, and it will take a good bit = of time to learn. Your focus should be strictly on learning the notes, = on meticulous phrasing, manual changes and clean articulation. Use a = minimal registration so you can actually hear what's going on. Save the = h*** raising until you've mastered it. Practice the piece a page at a = time (or a measure at a time if needed). Practice at as slow a tempo as = necessary to ensure accuracy (try 16th=3D44 or slower). It will be = tedious, but in the end you will have mastered the piece.   When playing any of Bach's works in public, the organ and the room = should at all times govern the tempo and your registration. It's been = my experience that the listener much prefers a musical performance, = rather than "flash" and displays of pseudo-virtuosity. The B minor and = The Wedge in particular will test all your skills as a player.   All the Best,   Tim Grenz    
(back) Subject: Mozart K608 From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:18:36 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Whilst we're all in musical/intellectual mode and talking about Bach, I wonder if I may pick brains slightly.   I use the Peeters edition of the Mozart K608, and always have done, for no other reason than that was the edition on the shelf!   I have always had a problem with this work, in that the fugal counter-subject is played on the pedals, which is next to impossible. The Peeters edition has pedalling marks which call for the crossing of feet at this point!   Now I've worked at it, and 8 times out of 10 I can get the notes right without kicking myself to death, but try as I may, I can really think of no easier way than that suggested.   My question is:-   Is there a better way?   It's just that hitting that E with the right toe to the left of the left foot, always seems so strange, but not half so strange as the alternatives. It is also quite a precarious maneuver, and seems to belong in the "sometimes it's right and sometimes it's wrong" category.   I cannot imagine that it could be played with the fingers, because there is a left-hand trill to be played at the same time.   That complaint aired, I have always adored this Fantasia, and I have probably derived more pleasure out of learning this work, or dusting it off from time to time, than almost any other work that isn't by Bach.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK                         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/  
(back) Subject: Re: Mozart K608 From: "Johan Hermans" <j.h.o@skynet.be> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:45:11 +0200   Colin,   A colleague of mine uses the B=E4renreiter-Edition, and that seems to = suggest some more convenient solutions. I'll ask him about that and let you = know.   Johan Hermans, Belgium